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::I am not in a position to argue :) I would PREFER however if you can work on the Russian article instead ... that would give me a chance to work on Britain (in terms of adding) the dates for the Saints and for the Hierarchs ... by keeping it 'simple" I can add all of those .. and THEN you can take all that information and edit it (at a later date) ..good compromise? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 00:17, May 26, 2009 (UTC)
:::Will try to get to the Russian article soon, however I am still covering some of the history for the Chinese article; I would like to cover that completely before I move on. You can still work on the British article, even if I add the eras now; I think having the eras there will help you shape it better in the short term. Let me know. [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:23, May 26, 2009 (UTC)
::::MY AIM will be to populate with as much information as I can ... the accuracy of the headings is not a huge detail for me at this point as it is to get information in ... as for the jurisdictions ... I have a few contacts in England that I am waiting to consult - shortly! I would prefer to populate the article and then edit the information. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:59, May 26, 2009 (UTC)
== Abbreviations ==
Regarding [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AASDamick&diff=85883&oldid=84980 your comment on my Talk page], while I do think that's a handy reference, I don't think having a whole page or even section dedicated to it on OrthodoxWiki is warranted. OW is not a reference source for the details of RC organization.
Alternatively, perhaps an [[OrthodoxWiki:Research help]] page (or something like that) might be compiled to give editors pointers on proper citations and style, etc., as well as including some handy links (such as the one you mention) to help in deciphering sources. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 15:27, July 11, 2009 (UTC)
:Many thanks Father. I thought so, just wanted to check. The Research help page is a great idea, will look into that soon. Cheers, Chris. [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 17:08, July 12, 2009 (UTC).
== Question ==
What is correctly for English: Metropolis or Metropolia? --[[User:Imerek|Imerek]] 16:52, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
:Hi. Metropolis would be the better English usage. Glad to see you working on the Russia Timeline artcle. Cheers, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 18:25, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
==Images and Category Question==
Hi, Chris! Two good questions! Regarding the pictures and uploading, I'm at a loss. I noticed it when I uploaded the picture of the Nagoya church, but put it off as that someone in the know would correct the problem. But, I notice that even Father John has tried uploading with the same results - bad! I assumed (bad assumption) he would have picked up on the error. As the owner of the site, I had thought of raising the problem with him directly, as I would expect he has access to the technical side. Beyond that I don't know what is the problem or how to get it corrected. I guess I'm no help!!
Concerning the category. I noticed your original posting, and frankly couldn't come up with a position. I had noticed the Orthodox England site and found it useful. I guess I'm stuck, in part, with saying "Western", as what would that really mean! Pre-schism all saints were "Orthodox" and I looked at the Orthodox England site as highlighting what we in the "East" have generally over looked. So, would "Western" means the saints that Orthodox England has highlighted, or something else. I could see "Western" being interpreted as being something like "Western Hemisphere". I think I have been influenced by the comment, some time ago, about the ethnic attachments to the saint categories and what that may mean! I think we need some categorization for the saints, as there are thousands. But, I think we need some sort of categorization that doesn't imply some sort of "ownership" issues. And that I just haven't been able to come up with!!
You've done an excellent job on the time lines. A few high level dates are all that I could handle! Bill. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 00:11, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
== Image Issue ==
Hi Angellight, please see my reply on my discussion page. Thanks. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk]) 07:29, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
==New Template==
A proposed template....work in progress...
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[[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:07, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
==Russian translation==
Hi Angellight: Sorry, I don't know Russian other than using the "machine" translators such as Google translate. Depending on the language the translator can do a reasonable job, but some such as Finnish can be rough. I don't know anyone that I can call on for translating, so I can't recommend anyone. Bill [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 01:47, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
== [[Moses]] article ==
Wow! That's a significant revision! I do have concerns about including entire services for saints. That could set a lengthy precedent for one thing, and I'm not sure copying out menaion services qualifies as fair use. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 22:25, January 8, 2015 (PST)
== Calendar updates ==
Christ is risen! I see that you've been working on adding saints from Wikipedia to the calendar days. The Wikipedia sources you are citing on the talk pages also contain their own sources. Also, since you look like you're working at this systematically, please make sure that the saints already listed on the page remain there even if they're not listed on the Wikipedia page. (I re-added Ipomoni to March 13.) —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 09:12, April 13, 2015 (PDT)
