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::Thats perfectly fine to remove that until we find the exact canon. Then in the article we can site the canon and its interpretation. Also, I think it would be good to explain the difference between consecration and ordination. I believe you only use consecrate bishops, but not sure as to what the significance is. Thanks again. --[[User:MariaCrabtree|Arlie]] 19:19, 5 Aug 2005 (EDT)
: "Consecrate" is usually the term, though "ordination" is sometimes used, as well. Liturgically, the making of a bishop is not actually an ordination. Rather, it is an elevation, which reflects the early understanding of a bishop as the president of the presbytery, and the ancient vesting of a bishop was essentially just the addition of the omophorion, as one can see in icons of ancient bishops. (The sakkos is a later addition.) The making of a bishop is a type of ''cheirotonia'', though not really the same sort as for priests and deacons (no Dance of Isaiah around the altar, for instance).
: The Greek terms for the two types of ordination are ''cheirotonia'' (for bishops, priests and deacons), and ''cheirothesia'' for the minor orders. Thus, to speak of "ordaining" a subdeacon but not a reader is placing the distinction on different lines than in the canons, and it also confuses the rite for making a subdeacon with the major orders. —[[User:ASDamick|{{User:ASDamick/sig}}]] 19:31, 5 Aug 2005 (EDT)
