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==Appointing SysopsOrthodoxSource==I just wanted In case you haven't been over to [[osource:Main page|OrthodoxSource]] lately, we can now login there with our OW logins. A category structure needs to share be worked on, as well as some thoughts about how Ibasic documents to get things up and running well there, based primarily on existing category structures here on OrthodoxWiki. Obviously, not everything will map the same, but we don've gone about appointing sysopst want to reinvent the wheel any more than need be. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3. Basically5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:51, June 19, 2008 (UTC) ==Category Sitemap==In case anyone's interested in the category structure, I'm looking for put up a few things[[User: *Some degree Magda/Category Sitemap|sitemap]] of the categories on the English-language wiki. I find it exceedingly helpful, when trying to interwiki between languages, to have a common category structure. I think some of sanity what we currently have could be improved (like the Orthodoxy by country, which includes "Western Europe" and "Asia" as well as countries in those regions). I would rather provoke discussion (this means you, Fr. Andrew) on the topic before making any sudden moves. And, no, I have no idea ''why'' I went through the whole thing, but there are a healthy dose whole lot of balance categories. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 19:16, June 4, 2008 (UTC) ==New disciplinary policy==All sysops should read and familiarize themselves with the new official [[OrthodoxWiki:Disciplinary policy|disciplinary policy]] as approved by [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] on May 29, 2008. Comments and adjustments are of course welcome. Relevant templates for enforcement: [[Template:Warning]], [[Template:Warning2]] and humility in content submitted [[Template:Banned]]. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 20:43, May 29, 2008 (UTC) ==Eliminating directory articles==I'm of the opinion that we ought to eliminate all the directory articles. Here's my rationale: *The function is fulfilled far better by sites like [http://www.orthodoxyinamerica.org OrthodoxyInAmerica.org] and dealings with other people onlineregional and jurisdictional sites.*A demonstrated commitment Keeping them up to OrthodoxWiki date and fully accurate is almost impossible.*Keeping them representative of Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy ''only'' is a desire continual problem.*They're somewhat irrelevant to the role of OrthodoxWiki as an encyclopedia. What do you think? —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 08:16, August 28, 2007 (or at least a willingnessPDT) :I agree. Keeping the listings up-to take on some -date will continue to be a large workload especially with the addition of personal information such as the resident priest, that can change frequently. Having discovered the administrative burden for OrthodoxyinAmerica site really makes keeping a directory in Orthodoxwiki redundant. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 18:45, August 28, 2007 (PDT) : Just adding another comment to "bump" this again to attention. Let's axe the directory articles! It's too much work to keep them going, and there's no way we'll ever be as accurate or useful as existing sites. I'd like it if other admins would comment on this site in good order. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 11:40, March 20, 2008 (PDT)*Finally:: Judging by the ''accessed count'' at the bottom of those pages, it looks like they are being used, do you find much out of date info on them? - [[User:Andrew|Andrew]] 12:39, March 20, some ecclesiastical standing 2008 (PDT) :::I may very well be a large contributor to the ''accessed count''. Fr. Andrew, thanks for the "bump," as I don't believe I'd seen this thread before, which raises excellent points. My only preference for having a clericdirectory on OrthodoxWiki is that I can *fix* things when they're wrong, seminarianlike broken links. That desire can easily be focused on submitting corrections to the jurisdictional sites and/or orthodoxyinamerica.org. Also, presbyteraI'm not sure what happened to the ROCOR directory. That being said, recognized I have begun coming across regional organizations (included in the "external links" sections) which are not necessarily pan-Orthodox personality; would there be an appropriate place to include those links? —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 14:46, March 20, etc2008 (PDT) ::::Where other ''active'' sites exist that already have the information that we have (i.e. name, basic location, link to website) is desirable but not required, then it would be unnecessary to duplicate this; perhaps a link to that website would suffice. That said, I know that in my antipodean (well... This is ) part of the world, we don't have anything of the sort, so because I would be very much against this for the Australasian articles. — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 17:04, March 20, 2008 (PDT) :::: Magda, a [[List of parish directories]] article might do the trick, consisting mainly of a series of external links. :::: Pistevo, y'all gotta get on the ball down there! :) Seriously, though, I have no problem with OrthodoxWiki hosting something until such time as an external site might be created. I'd even be willing to host it is helpful in my own webspace if someone else would be willing to maintain the file and send it to me for FTPing. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 04:39, April 1, 2008 (PDT) If no one voices an objection, I'm going to start deleting the Parish Directory articles for the US within a day or two, for the reasons noted above. (I also have those who areTOP SECRET information that SOMEONE is working on an external directory for Australia.) So, speak now, in one way or anotherforever hold your keys... or something. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="authoritiesblack" >contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 10:43, April 2, 2008 (PDT) Hmm... I agree that strictly this isn't in the Church moderating things, line with OWiki's mission... BUT I also see Magda's point that these are both pan-Orthodox andeasily updatable, unlike any other directory I'm aware of course, public recognition helps establish and I note that these have been popular "articles" over the credibility and status of OrthodoxWikiyears. Maybe we can wait a little bit on this? I dunno. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk]) 18:20, April 2, 2008 (PDT)
: Having waited a couple months without any major objections being raised, I''m beginning deletion. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="If anyone aspires to the office of sysopAdobe Garamond Pro, he desires a noble taskGaramond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('' (cf.1 Tim 3:1) - If I've overlooked you or if you have someone to nominate for sysop duties please leave a note on my [[User_talkUser:FrJohnASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|user talkTHINK!]] page. Of course''')</font></small> 14:00, June 14, I reserve all rights in terms of appointments and terminations. 2008 (UTC)
::: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Could you link to what you're referring to? —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color=Our new visitor"green" face==Take a look at "Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[TalkUser_talk:Main PageASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]], </sup> <small>[[TalkSpecial:Western RiteContributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]<font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, and the recent history on the Times New Roman">('''[[Western RiteUser:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]] article itself (pay attention to edits made by IPs starting with 128.146.246.*''')</font></small> 18:56, and you'll see who I'm talking about. Just for further infoJune 14, someone recently forwarded to me an email that this fellow sent to a listserv denouncing us:2008 (UTC)
:: Thanks. I notice that it is all cleared, now. Earlier when I noted a list was deleted and I clicked on the Category 'Churches', I only discovered still could get the listed page, but with a note that none existed as if one were starting a new page. I may have just caught the deletion process in the past two or three days an entry on alleged"Western Rite" 'midstream'. Sorry for my 'alarm'. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 20:40, June 14, 2008 (flags go up!UTC) Orthodox Church at this address:
Fellow sysops, I have twice tried 'm proposing adding the parish directories of Australia to edit some of the most glaring errorsbe deleted, butaparently the original keeps reverting because these are currently available on http://orthodoxyinaustralia.com/ (providing more information in contentany event). The situation is worse with these articles as they generally don't get updated. Good idea? -- — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 02:58, January 21, 2013 (HST) -- URL edited 1/Feb/2013
: Yep. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green"Wikipediaface=" is often opinion disguised as truthAdobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr.Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</nowikifont></presmall>03:13, February 1, 2013 (HST)
:As you probably noticed that during our discussions in 2007 about deleting parish directory pages in the USA that I agreed in their removal, mainly over the issue of maintaining their currency. I still favor their removal for that reason. Also, even the effort of maintaining a simple listing of parishes for the world means thousands of entries, maybe tens of thousands, that should be in some orderly manner but could be difficult given the differences of opinions concerning identity of the ecclesiastical groups. (Transfer of my comment of User talk:Pistevo)[[User:ASDamickWsk|Rdr. AndrewWsk]] 0610:5504, February 1, 21 Feb 2005 2013 (CSTHST)
::It appears he actually thinks we're talking about Roman Catholics here - and he's on a crusade to expose our attemptThanks everyone! Wow. That Over the next few days, I's impressive. I trust that folks will realize what this is all about and that ll change the publicity will directory pages to be good for us! I hope he can mellow outlinks to the relevant page on the OrthodoxyInAustralia.com website, grow in his attitudes, and make some good contributions in due timepending their deletion (before the end of the year). — by [[User:FrJohnPistevo|Fr. John<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 18:33, February 1, 2013 (HST)
::Nov 28 update - Added [[UserSpecial:FrJohn|Fr. JohnEditcount]] 18:00, 11 Feb 2005 (CST)
==Featured ArticleAwards, Recognizing civic virtue on the wiki==What do yI'all think about changing the ve been admiring Wikipedia's use of [[Templatew:FeaturedWikipediaBarnstars|Featured Articlebarnstars]] on a weekly basis? Alsoto award people who contribute their time and talent to the wiki. We should keep this in mind as we continue to grow, and figure out how do we choose? Perhaps we could rotate the choice between sysops who would to adopt something like to participate. --[[User:ASDamick|Rdrthis for our local practice. Andrew]] 09:04, 8 Feb 2005 (CST)
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