I'm not sure why the whole article was deleted - the article as part *Archive 1 of the Orthodoxy in Australia series was okayDiscussion: [[Talk:St. The attempt at character assassination on a monastic wasn't. I'm a little suspicious based upon the statement 'baptized and chrismated by ROCOR due to "previous ordination"' - suggesting a lack of familiarity with reception into the Orthodox Church_Petroc_Monastery_(Cascades, or the standard practices of ROCOR. In any case, the article should stick to the facts of the monastery _Tasmania)/Archive 1|2- and the ecclesiastical life of its members. Information from ROCOR AUS4/NZ would be best. And, of course, the article should be under the title Saint Petroc Monastery - its official title (no 'of' and Saint unabbreviated.) - AristibuleNov]]
: I reverted the blanking==Protecting of 4/Nov==This article has been protected because of a long sequence of edits. Feel free A few days to edit cool the keyboards, I think, are in order. All edits on this article should in future, imho, be done with official information (ie Monastery or Diocesan) to be more correct and charitableavoid this kind of editing based on unverifiable personal experience or hearsay or whatnot. {{-- [[User:ASDamick/sig}} Pistevo|Pistevo]] 20:0121, 2 3 November 2005 (CST)
I corrected minor items, removed the bio for now until an official one is received from the Archdiocese: I believe that is think we'll freeze the source article here for awhile. By my judgment, it contains some good information about the episcopal biographies on Orthodoxwiki? In any casemonastery, without getting into anything contentious. I've reverted "various parts of the bio was irrelevant military" back to the article and included details that don't pertain to the life "seamen" in light of a monasticthis clarification from Fr. The numbers of those at the monastery has changed over time Michael: "seamen" refers to all mariners - novices have come and gone. Imostly merchant seamen (Webster'll flesh out the article later from official sources, and also provide s defines a seaman as a companion article for sister monastery person skilled in the USseamanship .....)" [[User:FrJohn|Fr. - AristibuleJohn]] 22:49, 4 November 2005 (CST)
: Most of I've just protected the bios article again. Please discuss any future revisions on OrthodoxWiki are from official sources, news sources, and historical referencesthis talk page before they happen. That is, they're verifiable and documented, ''especially'' when including potentially controversial informationThanks. {{— [[User:ASDamickFrJohn|<b>FrJohn</sig}} 20b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk]) 19:04, October 9, 2 November 2005 2006 (CSTCDT)
ThanksFr Michael of Saint Petroc Monastery has been suspended and retired by Metropolitan Hilarion. See below February 23, Fr2013No. Deacon 2-28-13 In view of his vioations of the canons by disrespect of the person of the Patriarch and other members of the Hierarchy, lengthy absences from his parish in Hobart, Tasmania, causing spiritual neglect of the faithful of his church community, and the constant inflammatory and unedifying negative comments which he publicly broadcasts within the religious media, bringing disrepute to the Orthodox witness of the Western Rite movement, Hieromonk Michael (Mansbridge- Wood), cleric of the Australia and New Zealand Diocese of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, is hereby suspended and relieved of all his priestly duties and obligations concerning the Western Rite in the United Kingdom and elsewhere, and is retired from active service in the Church. Given the above, any and all blessings for his websites are hereby withdrawn. (signed) +Hilarion Metropolitan Hilarion,Archbishop of Sydney, Australia and New Zealand,First Hierarch of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia. :As this article is about St Petroc's Monastery (rather than its superior), I do think have added this information briefly in terms of how it affects the monastery. Currently, there is no article about Fr Michael (and, at least for a few months, this is probably a good thing). — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 17:41, March 6, 2013 (HST) FYI a) the building where St Dyfan (40 Alexander St, Sandy Bay) was based was been sold by the University of Tasmania some time ago and so doesn't exist. Also Fr Michael has not been an accredited chaplain there for some considerable time. So stricly speaking Saint Petroc Monastery (an apartment chapel) in McRobies Road, South Hobart is now and has been the only physical manifestation of SPM. b) but to add complexity, there is another ROCOR priest Fr Barry Jefferies who has also conducted services at SPM at various times, and may continue to do so because he hasn't been suspended. So I'm not sure that the comment "This means that the items are only controversial monastery's lone monk can no longer celebrate services." is strictly correct. Sorry to burden you with complexity--nothing about SPM seems straightforward. "Currently, there is no article about Fr Michael (and, at least for those who misunderstand Orthodoxya few months, this is probably a good thing)" --couldn't agree more. :Regarding (a) - I think this has been addressed by the article's claimsmost recent edit; and regarding (b), monasticismFr Barry is a married priest (and therefore not a monk). And of course, how Fr Barry can't be an attached to a greater SPM movement because this movement probably doesn't exist anymore (given that the ukase you cited has removed the head without replacement) - if Fr Michael was a priest of the canons are usedDiocese of ANZ (as per ukase), etcthen ISTM that Fr Barry unquestionably is. However:Of course, I see the complexity :-) - does all that seem to be a bias good place to leave the article for now? — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 19:22, March 6, 2013 (HST) Yes, I think it is apparent if an emphasis you're happy. Perhaps they might even be the final words about SPM-though one can't be certain. Finally, again fyi Fr Michael was suspended nearly 2 years ago as well. Sometime later the suspension was lifted but with stringent restrictions on the scope of his future activies. So SPM has been on a rocky road for some time now! :Just trying to make sure that it's a balanced and truthful article. Final words: clearly much prayer is made on articles required here. Other suspension: Yes, I remember - perhaps that's one for a future article about how the man (rather than the monastery). — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''small</sup> at 20:01, March 6, 2013 (HST) "Just trying to make sure that it' s a particular monastery balanced and truthful article" I think you've done an excellent job with difficult material!! Bfn-----Some suggestions for fine tuning if you think they are worthwhile: 1. Metropolitan’s decree is now on the ROCOR websiteSee http://www.rocor.org.au/?p=7603 2. UTAS sold their chaplaincy building in Dec 2011 so MMW’s involvement with UTAS would have ceased earlier that year. 3. The link to SPM’s webpage is now a dead link. 4. The locality for SPM is given as “Cascades”. This is not strictly correct because there isno such suburb, without reference and “Cascades” does not appear on the Australia Post list of postcodes. “Cascades’ is used loosely by locals to describe the same general area below Mt Wellington in articles Hobart. SPM is located in McRobies Road, “South Hobart” with postcode 7000 2nd April 2013 Fr Michael has "left rocor" see http://westernorthodoxchristian.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/fr-michael-woods-leaves-rocor-mp.html He has announced on other monasteriesfacebook a new affiliation:"On the 15th of March, I was notified in writing of my reception by his eminence, Metropolitan Daniel of the Metropolitanate of Moscow (TOC-R). This was followed by the necessary decrees. The decrees stated that I am a Hieromonk of Metropolitan Daniel's diocese, resident in the United Kingdom. That " There is also a reference to his new role at http://orthodoxwesternrite.wordpress.com/becoming-western-rite-in-uk-europe/ I'm not sure how this should be integrated with existing material. :Hopefully the changes made yesterday have dealt with most of particular importance when these.:The exception being number 4, and TBH, I'd incline more towards just deleting the location entirely, since the monastery is clearly no longer there (how can something with no building and no resident be called a monastery?). — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 21:08, April 8, 2013 (HST) I agree with Pistevo. The simplest thing would be to delete it. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 02:39, April 9, 2013 (HST)ﻜ Using the past tense for the latest changes to the SPM page may be a little premature. His "leaving ROCOR" letter says that the "Hobart mission" will continue to be viable even without him. The only physical manifestation of SPM is now the flat in South Hobart which apparently will remain active. Again there is nothing straightforward about SPM! From http://westernorthodoxchristian.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/fr-michael-woods-leaves-rocor-mp.html “...I have accordingly, held a meeting of the main people of our Hobart mission, where I explained to them what has happened, the vicious politics and the changes in ROCOR. I told them that I could no longer stay in ROCOR. They were already aware of some of my feelings. The Mission will remain intact under Metropolitan Hilarion, with Fr Barry in charge - as has been the practice for some considerable time...” Also you may want to reference his newletter of “commission” http://www.facebook.com/vladykadaniel.mogutnov Dmitry Mogutnov Reverend Michael was adopted by Us Our Amofor. Reverend Hieromonk Michael (Mansbridge-Wood) 5/18 March 2013. Decree 04 Taking into account the letter of release 2-28/13 on February 23, 2013 His Eminence Hilarion, Metropolitan of Eastern America and New York, First Hierarch of the Russian Orthodox Church, as well as a petition filed by Hieromonk Michael (Mansbridge-Wood), about taking it to the fold True Orthodox Church, Fr Michael (Mansbridge-Wood) is accepted into the clergy of the diocese of Volokolamsk and still Kolomna True Orthodox Church. God help you! + Metropolitan Volokolamsk and Kolomna DANIEL Reverend Hieromonk Michael (Mansbridge-Wood) 5/18 March 2013. Decree 05 The place of service Hieromonk Michael (Mansbridge-Wood) is determined United Kingdom :I understand the desire to be thorough, as usually I tend to share it to a fault...I can't help but think, though, that until St Petroc's actually produces something tangible, there's not much need for updates to this article - words can only go so far. The flat may continue to be his (or rented by him), but it's clearly not active - his work is in the planting stagesUK, according to his new decree. - Aristibule I will add the part where the Hobart community have stayed in the Church, though. — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 11:46, April 14, 2013 (HST)
