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==Our new visitorOrthodoxSource==Take a look at In case you haven't been over to [[Talkosource:Main Pagepage|OrthodoxSource]]lately, we can now login there with our OW logins. A category structure needs to be worked on, as well as some basic documents to get things up and running well there, based primarily on existing category structures here on OrthodoxWiki. Obviously, not everything will map the same, but we don't want to reinvent the wheel any more than need be. —[[TalkUser:Western RiteASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]]<sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, and the recent history on the Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[Western RiteUser:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]] article itself (pay attention to edits made by IPs starting with 128.146.246.*''')</font></small> 02:51, and you'll see who I'm talking about. Just for further infoJune 19, someone recently forwarded to me an email that this fellow sent to a listserv denouncing us:2008 (UTC)
==Category Sitemap==
In case anyone's interested in the category structure, I put up a [[User:Magda/Category Sitemap|sitemap]] of the categories on the English-language wiki. I find it exceedingly helpful, when trying to interwiki between languages, to have a common category structure. I think some of what we currently have could be improved (like the Orthodoxy by country, which includes "Western Europe" and "Asia" as well as countries in those regions). I would rather provoke discussion (this means you, Fr. Andrew) on the topic before making any sudden moves. And, no, I have no idea ''why'' I went through the whole thing, but there are a whole lot of categories. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 19:16, June 4, 2008 (UTC)
: Just adding another comment to "Wikipediabump" is often opinion disguised this again to attention. Let's axe the directory articles! It's too much work to keep them going, and there's no way we'll ever be as truthaccurate or useful as existing sites. I'd like it if other admins would comment on this. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 11:40, March 20, 2008 (PDT)
:::I may very well be a large contributor to the ''accessed count'Addendum:'. Fr. Andrew, thanks for the "bump," as I don't believe I'd seen this thread before, which raises excellent points. My only preference for having a directory on OrthodoxWiki is that I can *fix* things when they' re wrong, like broken links. That desire can easily be focused on submitting corrections to the jurisdictional sites and/or orthodoxyinamerica.org. Also, I believe Rdr'm not sure what happened to the ROCOR directory. Michael has now registered with us as That being said, I have begun coming across regional organizations (included in the "external links" sections) which are not necessarily pan-Orthodox; would there be an appropriate place to include those links? —[[User:SputnikMagda|<b>magda</b>]]. I've posted the ([[TemplateUser_talk:WelcomeMagda|standard welcometalk]] in his talk page.) 14:46, March 20, 2008 (PDT)
::::Where other ''active'' sites exist that already have the information that we have (i.e. name, basic location, link to website), then it would be unnecessary to duplicate this; perhaps a link to that website would suffice. That said, I know that in my antipodean (well...) part of the world, we don't have anything of the sort, so I would be very much against this for the Australasian articles. — by [[User:ASDamickPistevo|Rdr. Andrew<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]] 06''</sup> at 17:5504, March 20, 21 Feb 2005 2008 (CSTPDT)
::It appears he actually thinks we're talking about Roman Catholics here - and he's on :: Magda, a crusade to expose our attempt! Wow. That's impressive. I trust that folks will realize what this is all about and that the publicity will be good for us! I hope he can mellow out, grow in his attitudes, and make some good contributions in due time. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. JohnList of parish directories]]article might do the trick, consisting mainly of a series of external links.
If no one voices an objection, I'm going to start deleting the spam bots ravage Parish Directory articles for the site too seriouslyUS within a day or two, we can restore backup of for the entire site from the previous day reasons noted above. (I also have TOP SECRET information that SOMEONE is working on an external directory for Australia.) So, speak now, or forever hold your keys... or weeksomething. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, and then lockout anonymous users from editingGaramond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 10:43, April 2, 2008 (PDT)
::Having waited a couple months without any major objections being raised, I'm beginning deletion. —[[User:FrJohnASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. JohnAndrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]] 18</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 14:00, 11 Feb 2005 June 14, 2008 (CSTUTC)
:: Thanks. I notice that it is all cleared, now. Earlier when I noted a list was deleted and I clicked on the Category 'Churches', I still could get the listed page, but with a note that none existed as if one were starting a new page. I may have just caught the deletion process in 'midstream'. Sorry for my 'alarm'. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 20:40, June 14, 2008 (UTC)
::Hi! I see your point & it's convincing. I'll plan to populate (most of) them with some content shortly. OTOH my idea was to give a framework for growth -- some folks might be willing to contribute, but shy to start new topics. OTOOH (yesthink you have good precedent here, there's 3) - I think that's just especially if the way I "paint a fence" pages are not linearly, but sketching out large sections and then going back to fill in bit by bitbeing updated. It's probably a learning disorder, but... :-). - — [[User:FrJohn|Fr<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki. John]org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk]) 21:38, January 31, 2013 (HST)
:Yep. —[[User:: Just so you knowASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, I certainly didn't intend it as a direct criticism of youGaramond, FatherGeorgia, but just wanted to say something on the Times New Roman"ground floor>Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red" of a possible trend. I definitely see your point about presenting an invitational framework. Perhaps when otherwise empty articles are created, we could at least include a brief descriptive statement and a >talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<nowikifont color="black">{{stub}}contribs</nowikifont> tag? Otherwise]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, it may not be clear to a visitor that the article is an invitation but rather possibly some kind of errorGaramond, --Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|Rdr. AndrewTHINK!]] 11''')</font></small> 03:5413, February 1, 31 Jan 2005 2013 (CSTHST)
:::'''Addendum:''' One other related thing As you probably noticed that occurs to me is during our discussions in 2007 about deleting parish directory pages in the USA that I think we'll agreed in their removal, mainly find our growth in terms over the issue of maintaining their currency. I still favor their removal for that reason. Also, even the effort of folks who come here as maintaining a result simple listing of Googling and parishes for the like. That isworld means thousands of entries, maybe tens of thousands, folks who have found OrthodoxWiki as a useful resource are more likely to want to contribute rather than those being solicited (not that we should stop solicitation, which I do all be in some orderly manner but could be difficult given the differences of opinions concerning identity of the time)ecclesiastical groups. That's why I'm firmly (Transfer of my comment of the belief that we should hammer the site with as much good content as we canUser talk:Pistevo)[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 10:04, February 1, thus potentially creating a domino effect.2013 (HST)
:::The point of that comment is just that Thanks everyone! Over the next few days, I'm optimistic about ll change the directory pages to be links to the future of relevant page on the projectOrthodoxyInAustralia.com website, especially as we have more and more good stuff. Our critical mass lately seems to have been that we now have 3 or 4 folks consistently adding content. pending their deletion (Something like how a monastery works.before the end of the year) Anyhow, I just wanted to add this and say thank you for spearheading the project. I think it— by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' 's a fantastic idea, and I'm really glad to be part of it. --[[Usertalk:ASDamickPistevo/dev/null|Rdr. Andrew<font color="red">complaints</font>]] 12''</sup> at 18:0433, February 1, 31 Jan 2005 2013 (CSTHST)
==Awards, Recognizing civic virtue on the wiki==I've been admiring Wikipedia's use of [[w:You knowWikipediaBarnstars|barnstars]] to award people who contribute their time and talent to the wiki. We should keep this in mind as we continue to grow, that makes senseand figure out how to adopt something like this for our local practice. A few links of interest here:* [[w:Wikipedia:Barnstars]]* http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb. pl?BarnStar -pre-dating Wikipedia* http://www.thebarnjournal.org/stories/story018/index2.html - Images, some ideas for alternative barnstars Don't forget the mention of barnraising on the [[UserOrthodoxWiki:ASDamick|Rdr. AndrewCommunity Portal]] 15:16, 2 Feb 2005 (CST).
==Appointing Sysops==
I just wanted to share some thoughts about how I've gone about appointing sysops. Basically, I'm looking for a few things:
*Some degree of sanity as well as a healthy dose of balance and humility in content submitted and dealings with other people online.
*A demonstrated commitment to OrthodoxWiki and a desire (or at least a willingness) to take on some of the administrative burden for keeping this site in good order. This generally means a good record of broad interest in the wiki.
*Finally, some ecclesiastical standing (as a cleric, seminarian, presbytera, recognized Orthodox personality, etc.) is desirable but not required. This is so because it is helpful to have those who are, in one way or another, "authorities" in the Church moderating things, and, of course, public recognition helps establish the credibility and status of OrthodoxWiki.
''"If anyone aspires to the office of sysop, he desires a noble task"'' (cf.1 Tim 3:1) - If I've overlooked you or if you have someone to nominate for sysop duties please leave a note on my [[User_talk:FrJohn|user talk ]] page. Of course, I reserve all rights in terms of appointments and terminations. So far, I've been pretty liberal in knighting sysops -- at this point we can use all the help we can get, and it seems to me to be a good thing to empower a robust band of trustworthy members to help manage the site. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]] 21:58, 27 Feb 2005 (CST)
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