Category talk:Modern Saints
What would be the criteria for Modern Saints? After 1800? - Andrew 22:46, May 7, 2008 (UTC)
- *shrug* I'm not sure this category is really even useful. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 23:14, May 7, 2008 (UTC)
- Typical, because you guys dont know it ... its obviously a useless idea ... anyway please see,
- Modern Orthodox Saints, St. Nicodemos the Hagiorite (a Great Theologian and Teacher of the Orthodox Church) by Constantine Cavarnos [ISBN-10: 0914744410 or ISBN-13: 978-0914744412] as a printed example of what "MOdern saints" are, they are defined by St Nicodemos! There is a set year (I might be wrong but I think any saint falling after the schism of 1453AD is classifed as "Modern Saint"). Vasiliki 23:58, May 7, 2008 (UTC)
- Modern has a lot of meanings (along with the various permutations of meaning in modernism and modernist). (St. Nicodemus the Hagiorite to many people alive now would be considered ancient history!) In any event, our liturgical books don't really classify saints according to their time period (with the possible exception of various "New Martyrs," etc., who aren't defined by a specific date but simply by custom), so there's nothing "official" in that regard (the possible opinion of St. Nicodemus notwithstanding).
- I am familiar with Dr. Cavarnos's series (I own a number of his books), and modern is a useful term for him to use in that context, but he's not putting together an encyclopedic taxonomy (as we are). It's not a question of ignorance of the idea, but of its usefulness as an OrthodoxWiki category.
- Perhaps it may be more useful, if we are going to introduce chronological categories for saints, simply to group them according to century without putting a label on those centuries (e.g., 1st Century saints or 20th Century saints, etc.). —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 02:19, May 8, 2008 (UTC)