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::Sure, sperma can mean other things, but what evidence is there pointing away from its implying “ejaculate” here? I ask you again: what else could Onan possibly have been spilling/pouring out/ἐξέχεεν onto the ground during the sexual act other than ejaculate? Orange juice, perhaps? --[[User:Gmharvey|Gmharvey]] ([[User talk:Gmharvey|talk]]) 08:09, June 27, 2018 (UTC)
You seem intent on misunderstanding. I don't deny that semen was what Onan spilt, but that is implied by the text -- Jerome added a word to the text in his "translation," a ThIRD THIRD occurrence of vera/sperma. And I showed that the two actual occurrences in the text of zera/sperma cannot mean semen in this instance. Otherwise you If we follow your remarks just now, we get the mistranslation, "But because Onan knew that the semen ejaculate would not be his, it would come about that he would pour out upon the ground when he would go in to his brothers wife so that he would not give semen ejaculate to his brother." --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] ([[User talk:Fr Lev|talk]]) 13:43, June 27, 2018 (UTC)
:I’m not sure what you mean by “Greek” views on marriage? Please elaborate. Also, how is approval of contraception any less unbiblical than its condemnation (by Jerome or whomever)? No verse either directly approves of or condemns its use. Is everything that isn’t forbidden in the bible moral, or edifying for the Christian? It should also be noted that “for the procreation of children” does not necessarily mean that its enjoyment it to be precluded, just that it is naturally oriented towards this (i.e. procreation is at least one of its teloi), and that actively preventing sex from leading to procreation would be unnatural. This, I argue, is very Orthodox, and very Patristic.
