This is a general discussion page for OrthodoxWiki '''Administrators''' to work out various administrative issues, notes, and to-do lists. Our host and first-among-sysops is [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]].

==Empty ArticlesUseful Admin links==Something which concerns me about the creation of multiple empty articles without even a basic definition first-line and a <nowiki>{{stub}}<*[http://nowiki> tag is that visitors to the site can get the impression that there's a lot of nothing heregroups. I know folks who like to come here and hit the "random" link successively, and with lots of empty articles, there will come to be a preponderance of disappointmentyahoo. This also will skew our results as they appear in search enginescom/group/orthodoxwiki/ OrthodoxWiki Yahoo Group] - Low-volume closed discussion for OrthodoxWiki sysops. Perhaps we should leave inIf you qualify, please sign up!*[[OrthodoxWiki:Protected page guidelines]]*[[Special:Protectedpages]] -development articles simply as links in existing articles (or places like talk lists protected pages) until there's at least a little something to put on them?*[[OrthodoxWiki:Copyright problems]]*[[Special:Listadmins]]*[[Special:Listusers]]

What do ==OrthodoxSource==In case you think? haven't been over to [[osource:Main page|OrthodoxSource]] lately, we can now login there with our OW logins. A category structure needs to be worked on, as well as some basic documents to get things up and running well there, based primarily on existing category structures here on OrthodoxWiki. --Obviously, not everything will map the same, but we don't want to reinvent the wheel any more than need be. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|Rdr<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]] 10} <small>[[Special:13Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:51, June 19, 31 Jan 2005 2008 (CSTUTC)

::: Just so you know==Category Sitemap==In case anyone's interested in the category structure, I certainly didn't intend it as put up a direct criticism [[User:Magda/Category Sitemap|sitemap]] of youthe categories on the English-language wiki. I find it exceedingly helpful, Fatherwhen trying to interwiki between languages, but just wanted to say something on have a common category structure. I think some of what we currently have could be improved (like the Orthodoxy by country, which includes "Western Europe" and "ground floorAsia" of a possible trendas well as countries in those regions). I definitely see your point about presenting an invitational frameworkwould rather provoke discussion (this means you, Fr. Andrew) on the topic before making any sudden moves. Perhaps when otherwise empty articles And, no, I have no idea ''why'' I went through the whole thing, but there are created, we could at least include a brief descriptive statement and a whole lot of categories. —[[User:Magda|<nowikib>{{stub}}magda</nowikib> tag? Otherwise, it may not be clear to a visitor that the article is an invitation but rather possibly some kind of error, --]] ([[UserUser_talk:ASDamickMagda|Rdr. Andrewtalk]] 11) 19:5416, June 4, 31 Jan 2005 2008 (CSTUTC)

==New disciplinary policy==All sysops should read and familiarize themselves with the new official [[OrthodoxWiki:Disciplinary policy|disciplinary policy]] as approved by [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn]] on May 29, 2008. Comments and adjustments are of course welcome. Relevant templates for enforcement: [[Template:Warning]], [[Template:Warning2]] and [[Template:Banned]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''Addendum[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''' One other related thing that occurs to me is that I think we'll mainly find our growth in terms of folks who come here as a result of Googling and the like. That is)</font></small> 20:43, May 29, folks who have found OrthodoxWiki as a useful resource are more likely to want to contribute rather than those being solicited 2008 (not that we should stop solicitation, which I do all the timeUTC). That's why I'm firmly of the belief that we should hammer the site with as much good content as we can, thus potentially creating a domino effect.

> ''==Eliminating directory articles==I certainly didn't intend it as a direct criticism m of you'the opinion that we ought to eliminate all the directory articles. Here's my rationale:

This brings up a good point*The function is fulfilled far better by sites like [http://www.orthodoxyinamerica.org OrthodoxyInAmerica. I think we all need to take each org] and other's good will for granted,regional and jurisdictional sites.*Keeping them up to presume on it to a certain degreedate and fully accurate is almost impossible. I mean, it*Keeping them representative of Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy 's easy to hear typed words in too harsh a tone, take shorthand the wrong way, or otherwise read into what's written or done (and MediaWiki doesnonly't offer proper emoticons!) Let's all assume we love each other :-)is a continual problem. I mean, we*They're working free of charge in this common cause because we believe its going to have some value. Hopefully this won't be a temple to our egos! We do have to know how to give and receive criticism (gently / humbly), and also know that part of the mission of this place (as I see it) is somewhat irrelevant to foster a healthy disputation of ideas -- challenging both sides (e.g. with the hot button topic role of ecumenism or whatever) to do their homework and argue their position OrthodoxWiki as thoroughly as possible -- and providing a forum for both, while calling all to a basic accountability and charity. Perhaps we won't be able to stop flame wars or personal offenses entirely, but I think we can give it a good shot. (...and practice Biblical principles for approaching those who we have a problem with - maybe we should write this up in the community guidelines! :-). I'm going on too long..an encyclopedia.

Thanks for your ''thank What do you'' and back atchyathink? &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3. Of course5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, this was conceived as a group project from the beginningGaramond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 08:16, August 28, and it is now viable exactly because people like you 2007 (and our dedicated othersPDT) have caught :I agree. Keeping the vision and have lent a helping hand so freely. I'm excited about its potential, too listings up-to- I see how date will continue to be a resource like this could be very helpful even just to me personallylarge workload especially with the addition of personal information such as the resident priest, and I'm excited about that can change frequently. Having discovered the collaborative dimensionOrthodoxyinAmerica site really makes keeping a directory in Orthodoxwiki redundant.[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 18:45, August 28, 2007 (PDT)

I think you: Just adding another comment to "bump" this again to attention. Let're right about s axe the Googling directory articles! It's too much work to keep them going, and usabilitythere's no way we'll ever be as accurate or useful as existing sites. I'd like it if other admins would comment on this. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. and the domino effectAndrew</font>]] ^{[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]} <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, which is already workingTimes New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK! I appreciate your zeal in recruiting articles from knowledgable folks - I]]'''ve been doing a lot of this )</font></small> 11:40, March 20, 2008 (with a lot of vague promises for sometime down the road :-PDT). I see things snowballing already!

::God blessJudging by the ''accessed count'' at the bottom of those pages, it looks like they are being used, do you find much out of date info on them? - [[User:FrJohnAndrew|Fr. JohnAndrew]]12:39, March 20, 2008 (PDT)