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:Well, the [http://goarch.org/en/chapel/calendar.asp goarch calendar] lists the feast on both [http://goarch.org/en/chapel/saints.asp?contentid=738 October 1] and on [http://goarch.org/en/chapel/saints.asp?contentid=650 October 28] with the same apolytikion and kontakion, so that's likely how the listings on OrthodoxWiki came about.  My husband points out that both dates are listed in the [http://ec-patr.org/gr/typikon/2007/m2007-10.htm Ecumenical Patriarchate typikon] and with the same name (unlike on goarch, where one kept the Greek 'skepi').  ([http://www.iconograms.org/sig.php?eid=738 This page] says it happened in the sixth century, but then refers to St. Andrew the Fool-for-Christ of Constantinople, who died in 936, so that it coincides with the other accounts, putting the event in 911.)  My husband did find this [http://www.crestinortodox.ro/Liturgica/Sarbatorile__Maicii_Domnului_7282.html Romanian explanation] which he translated: "The Greeks keep this feast (especially the monks of the Holy Mountain, beginning in 1952) on the 28th of October as a national feast when the repelling of the Italian attack against Greece in 1940 is remembered." He also points out [http://www.phys.uoa.gr/~nektar/orthodoxy/agiologion/panagia_appearaces_miracles.htm#c02 this Greek page] as saying that the feast is celebrated "on the first and, later, the 28th of October."  So it looks like the same feast with more than one date. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 11:07, October 4, 2007 (PDT)
 
:Well, the [http://goarch.org/en/chapel/calendar.asp goarch calendar] lists the feast on both [http://goarch.org/en/chapel/saints.asp?contentid=738 October 1] and on [http://goarch.org/en/chapel/saints.asp?contentid=650 October 28] with the same apolytikion and kontakion, so that's likely how the listings on OrthodoxWiki came about.  My husband points out that both dates are listed in the [http://ec-patr.org/gr/typikon/2007/m2007-10.htm Ecumenical Patriarchate typikon] and with the same name (unlike on goarch, where one kept the Greek 'skepi').  ([http://www.iconograms.org/sig.php?eid=738 This page] says it happened in the sixth century, but then refers to St. Andrew the Fool-for-Christ of Constantinople, who died in 936, so that it coincides with the other accounts, putting the event in 911.)  My husband did find this [http://www.crestinortodox.ro/Liturgica/Sarbatorile__Maicii_Domnului_7282.html Romanian explanation] which he translated: "The Greeks keep this feast (especially the monks of the Holy Mountain, beginning in 1952) on the 28th of October as a national feast when the repelling of the Italian attack against Greece in 1940 is remembered." He also points out [http://www.phys.uoa.gr/~nektar/orthodoxy/agiologion/panagia_appearaces_miracles.htm#c02 this Greek page] as saying that the feast is celebrated "on the first and, later, the 28th of October."  So it looks like the same feast with more than one date. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 11:07, October 4, 2007 (PDT)
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::Thanks - [[User:Andrew|Andrew]] 04:53, October 5, 2007 (PDT)

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Is October 28 Protection of the Mother of God a Greek tradition feast in addition to October 1? Is it the same feast on another day? - Andrew 07:19, October 4, 2007 (PDT)

Well, the goarch calendar lists the feast on both October 1 and on October 28 with the same apolytikion and kontakion, so that's likely how the listings on OrthodoxWiki came about. My husband points out that both dates are listed in the Ecumenical Patriarchate typikon and with the same name (unlike on goarch, where one kept the Greek 'skepi'). (This page says it happened in the sixth century, but then refers to St. Andrew the Fool-for-Christ of Constantinople, who died in 936, so that it coincides with the other accounts, putting the event in 911.) My husband did find this Romanian explanation which he translated: "The Greeks keep this feast (especially the monks of the Holy Mountain, beginning in 1952) on the 28th of October as a national feast when the repelling of the Italian attack against Greece in 1940 is remembered." He also points out this Greek page as saying that the feast is celebrated "on the first and, later, the 28th of October." So it looks like the same feast with more than one date. —magda (talk) 11:07, October 4, 2007 (PDT)
Thanks - Andrew 04:53, October 5, 2007 (PDT)