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The Spanish Liturgy
== The Spanish Liturgy ==
First, "Spanish" is hardly a neologism. Its usage has been around for awhile. See, e.g., Louis Bouyer's ''The Early Liturgy''(1959), where he typically refers to the "Spanish liturgy" and the "old Spanish liturgy" (notice the lower-case of "old"). The same is true of Josef Jungmann's ''The Mass'' (1976). Mozarabic and Visigothic are less precise. I have also seen "Hispanic" as a modifier for this rite, but not "Toledan." This The latter is also misleading, iin in that the Spanish liturgy is associated not only with Toldeo but with Seville and Tarragona. The association with Toldeo most likely reflects that the Spanish liturgy has survived only in a cathedral chapel in Toledo (established in the late fifteenth century), while it was suppressed elsewhere in Spain in 1080. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 11:44, March 14, 2006 (CST)
== No fixed Canon in the Gallican (proper) or the Spanish ==
As mentioned previously, the ancient rite of the Gauls did not have a fixed eucharistic prayer. A useful description may be found in Jasper and Cuming's ''Prayers of the Eucharist: Early and Reformed'', 3rd ed., 1997.The editors write: "The Gallican eucharistic prayer is organized on a basis of four fixed points: Sursum corda, Sanctus, Institution Narrative, and Doxology, between which are inserted three passages varying from Sunday to Sunday. In the Gallican rite these passages are known as ''contestatio'' or ''immolatio'' (the equivalent of the preface), ''post-Sanctus'', and ''post-secreta'' or ''post-mysterium'' (the Institution Narrative being known as ''secreta'')" (p.147). We also find a similarly tradition in the Spanish, as witnessed to by St Isidore of Seville. See, e.g., Josef Jungmann's ''The Mass'' (1976), pp. 60-61. In the Spanish, the variable parts are known as the ''illatio'', ''post-Sanctus'', and ''post-Pridie'' (Jasper and Cuming, p.151). --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 12:04, March 14, 2006 (CST)
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