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== Recent image uploads ==__TOC__
Thank you for your recent contributions== سلام ==سلام المسيح اخي. I've noticed that you uploaded multiple images pertaining to Pope Shenouda IIIشكراً لفتحكم موقع ويكي بالعربي لكننا سنحتاج مشرفين في هذا القسم قبل أن نعلن للناس عنه وأنا سانقل مواضيعي للقسم العربي. Those need to be tagged with [[Help:Image licenses|Image licenses]]. Please do so that we know they're not potential copyright violations. أخوك حبيب
Additionally, some of them have names which are non-descriptive or not specific enough (e.g., 26defe3.jpg, P1010582.jpg, and With_Pope_John_Paul_II.gif). They'll need to be reuploaded with new names (along with tags). &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|{{User:ASDamick/sig}}]] 13:46, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)== Zeitun ==
== ReWelcome back, Arbible. My wife and I have been writing on Zeitun and other apparitions of the Holy Virgin today. These make for interesting reading! I haven't given them much consideration previously. {{User: Copyright discussion ==FrJohn/sig}}
Certainly :Thank you are forgiven. Please forgive me if I offended you in any way, Father. It's easy for these sorts May the prayers and intercession of things to become misunderstandingsthe Blessed Holy Virgin Mary be with us all. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|{{User:ASDamick/sig}}]] 17:22, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)--Arbible
== Coptic Contributions Recent quotation additions ==
Just wanted A couple of notes regarding the recent additions you've made of quotations to say various articles:*If it's a quote from the person that Iis the article'm very happy to have Coptic contributions s subject, you don't need to this siteattribute it. We It've tried to make our own bias and position very clear in [[OrthodoxWiki:Style_Manual#Neutrality_and_the_OrthodoxWiki_Bias]]s assumed from context. I remember fondly contacts with non-Chalcedonians at seminary If it's a quote ''about'' that person, and then of course attribution is appropriate.*Including citations (the sense source of closeness we hadthe quote) would be very useful, and know people who have very good relations with Pope Shenouda. [[User:FrJohn|Frso that readers can look up the context of the quotation. John]]
== Saints and calendar dates ==Thanks for your contributions! {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 09:40, January 5, 2006 (CST)
For ==Quotes==Thank you for the information you add regarding saints who are common offer :) . My task was to both categorise [[Uncategorized Quotes]] (which is mostly complete, but the non-Chalcedonian and Chalcedonian churchesarticle could do with alphabetisation); however, I would you mind including the dates according personally like to the Chalcedonian calendarsee a couple of distinctive quotes on articles of people who were influential through their writings (eg St [[John Chrysostom]] or Fr [[Seraphim Rose]])... that being said, as well? I probably don't think most of us who arenhave time to do that myself, but I'd enjoy it nonetheless. --{{User:Pistevo/sig}} 08:05, May 13, 2006 (CDT)==Clement==I'm sorry, I didn't non-Chalcedonians are going mean to know what be hurtful my comment. I guess some of the Protestant Biblical "scholarly" evaluations in the equivalent date on our own calendar will be article just seemed a bit too heterodox for me. So Clement's not in the Coptic calendar or other Oriental Orthodox calendarsSynaxarion? I couldn't find him online at any Chalcedonian sites, either. &mdash;Which leads me to wonder: who exactly celebrates him as a saint? Any ideas? [[User:ASDamickGabriela|{{User:ASDamick/sig}}Gabriela]] 0917:4626, July 17, 19 Aug 2005 2006 (EDTCDT)
: I got Thanks for your notereply and excellent edits to the article. Thanks. My concern (That's what a wiki is about Coptic months that aren't meant to be-- collaborative editing and article evolution (hopefully to the same as the Gregorianbetter) through [http://Julian ones, emeta.gwikimedia., Hathor, which org/wiki/Darwikinism Darwikinism].) Clement of Alexandria doesn't seem to correspond directly to any Gregorianhave his own biographical/saint/Julian month. Do you understand what I mean? &mdash;feast day entry in our [[Userhttp:ASDamick|{{User:ASDamick/sig}}/www.copticcentre.com/synaxarium.pdf Coptic Orthodox Synaxarium]] 13:53, 19 Aug 2005 . The Coptic Synaxarium mentions him (EDT'''not''' as a saint)under the following two entries:
== It happened on 29 August (23 Misra) ==
Is there a reason this is on my talk page? There are no questions or comments directed towards me. If you need to add an event to the calendar commemorations, there is information on the [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual (Church Calendar)|style page for ''The Seventeenth Day of the calendar]]Blessed Month of Baramoudah - The Martyrdom of St. If you want to practice with James the wiki, there is Apostle Brother of St. John the [[OrthodoxwikiApostle:Sandbox|sandbox]]. I'm a little confused. [[User:Magda|{{User:Magda/sig}}]] 17:50, 29 Aug 2005 (EDT)'
:I would appreciate a response regarding this information. My talk page is not meant to be an article"'''Clement of Alexandria''', from the fathers of the second century, said: "The soldier that seized the Saint, but to communicate with mewhen he saw his courage, he realized that there must be a better life and I do not understand whatever message you are attempting to relayasked the Saint for his forgiveness. [[User:Magda|{{User:Magda/sig}}]] 21Then the soldier confessed Christianity and received the crown of martyrdom (Acts 12:261, 4 Oct 2005 (EDT2)along with the Apostle in the year 44 A.D."
::Apologies for the confusion. There is no hidden message. I agree with you this is not the correct place for this article. [[User:Arbible|Arbible]]
:If you are simply looking for a place to add content for your own reference, you can create your own [[User:Arbible/Sandbox|sandbox]] (or other subpages) similar to those ''The Fifteenth Day Of The Blessed Month Of Baounah - The Turning Over of the Relics of [[User:ASDamick/Sandbox|Rdrthe Great St. Andrew]] and [[User:Pistevo/sandbox|Pistevo]]. Then you can simply refer to those pages via a link when you want to relay that information to someone. If you need to delete these subpagesMark the Apostle by the hand of Pope Paul the Sixth, just let an admin know and we will be happy to help. [[User:Magda|{{UserPope of Rome:Magda/sig}}]] 22:33, 4 Oct 2005 (EDT)''
== Multiple Accounts ==:"Pope of Rome, replied in an official speech in French, that he read while sitting on the throne. In it he exalted the history of the Alexandrian church, and its long struggle in the field of dogma. He also praised its heros, and its learned people such as Athanasius the apostolic, Kyrillos (Cyril) the Pillar of Faith, Pantaenus and '''Clement'''."
::Hi there - I just wanted to note that I agree with Rdr. Andrew. Also, I'm not sure why you have multiple accounts. Please choose which one you want to keep and I'll delete the other! I don't think we have an explicit policy on this yet, though it will be coming soon! Thanks, [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]], cc:StAnonius
Thank you, Father. Please do whatever you find good in your eyes. I trust your judgement. Also, please accept the following two entries for OrthodoxWiki's Collection :Clement of Texts:<br><br>1: The Collection Of Safey The Son Of The Honey Maker Church and Civil Laws Based Alexandria is not on Coptic Orthodox Norms and Traditions the present Roman Catholic calendar either (13th Century: 1245 ADbut used to be) . [http://wwwjustus.zeitun-eganglican.org/ASSAL_ALresources/bio/298.pdf<br><br>2: The Lamp html This Anglican site] says that Lights the Darkness - In Clarifying the Service By Ibn-Kabar, Coptic Priest of he is on the Hanging Church Eastern (14th Century: 1296-1332 ADOrthodox) http://www.zeitun-eg.org/Ibn_Kabar.PDF<br><br>Regarding modern heresies, sects and deviations from Orthodox faith, I think these are important entries in an encyclopedia of this kind calendar (cf. Catholic Encyclopedia's coverage of these topics, e.g., http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01166a.htm , http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10570c.htm , http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15674a.htm , etc.?). They are also important topics in the world we are living in, and represent important "challenges" facing the Church, e.g., http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/09/30/37489.html<br><br>P.S. I noticed that on many modern revisions of the domains http://copticwiki.org/ and http://catholicwiki.org/ have been registered.<br><br>God BlessAnglican calendar.
::I'll block stantonius then, since you're using arbible. Please go ahead and add the articles as you see fit, making sure to put them in the right place and that it's ok to use them in terms of Copyright. I agree that many of the articles you've begun are worth having on board, and that they're good things to get information out about. We don't need to be totally comprehensive, so we don't really need general articles. I think if there's only a few links for each entry, we should put them together on a general "Cults" or "Apologetics" page. But if we have a good article on how their doctrines and practices related to Orthodoxy, that would be even better. God Bless+
::I've lifted the link you gave for http://www.copticwiki.org, made an announcement on [[OrthodoxWiki:News]] and created an InterWiki link. Thanks for all your work.== Sysop? ==
::[[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]] 14:01Dear Arbible, 8 Sep 2005 (EDT)
== Deletions ==You've been around OrthodoxWiki for a long time now, and I'm grateful for your work and commitment to this site. I'd like you to become our official "Oriental Orthodox Sysop," helping us to oversee (and mediate if necessary) articles related to the non-Chalcedonian churches and suggesting ways we could build more in this direction. I'm not sure what this would mean, but maybe you could help us figure it out!
Hi ArbibleI don't expect any more of a time commitment that you've already demonstrated. Along with the Sysop role,you'd be included on the sysop email list, and have some additional powers for managin articles.
I've deleted a number of the "cult" articles that only had a few links to the group or teaching. I've left onesLet me know, like Jehovah's Witnesses or Freemasonry that had atleast one Orthodox-related link. I hope these can either be expanded into articles here or intergrated together into some general cults on my talk page. Generally speaking, I think itor directly by email if you's better re willing to put too much take on one page and then have to break it apart rather than scattering a few links over lots of different pagesthis job. Thanks! {{User:FrJohn/sig}}
All this said:Dear Father, I'm grateful for your work and your continuing interest in OrthodoxWiki. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
== OrientalOrthodox ==:Thanks very much. This would be a great blessing to me. I would be very happy and also privileged to be able to learn more from you all and help as much as I can.
Please see my reply at [[Talk:Oriental_Orthodox]]. Best wishesYours in Christ, --[[User:FrJohnArbible|Fr. JohnArbible]]16:53, August 10, 2006 (CDT)
== Of course brother:;Wonderful! ==In progress... Thanks, [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
No forgive me. I worded my additions to the article as if they were the only views that existed without taking into account any opposing views. Thankfuly Fr. John intervened. I think that the external links to the pro-union and anti-union case at the bottom == [[Stephanos of the article are enough to present both sides. Thank you for those additions. Khinolakkos]] ==
You knowArbible, when I was converting have you obtained permission to use this content? [http://www.goarch.org/legal/copyright.asp Here's] the faith, I was torn between the Oriental side and the Eastern side and I ended up chosing the Eastern side goarch copyright notice. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] (as you can see[[User_talk:Magda|talk]])21:23, but only barely. I was *this* close becoming a member of a local Coptic church. I actually regualrly attend a Coptic youth Bible study and have even spoken there before. While I am thereAugust 18, I choose to steer away from the issue of christology. 2006 (CDT)
In Christ,Julio== welcome message ==
== Response posted ==Hello, when you welcome someone, use subst: for the <nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki> template. I mean, instead of placing <nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki> in the user talk page, place <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>. This will make it more personal, and the new user, when hit "Edit this page" to reply to the message, will see a text, not an ugly template. Regards, [[User:Gregg|Gregg]] 15:53, August 26, 2006 (CDT)
Please see my additional comment at User_talk:FrJohnThanks very much for the excellent tip. Thanks!Will do. Yours in Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 01:04, August 27, 2006 (CDT)
::Looks good, Arbible. I suggest you make those separate pages in the [[:Category:Contributed Articles]] category (if you can get appropriate permission to post them) and then link to those pages from the main 4th ec council page. Or, if they're available elsewhere online, you can just link to them like that. How does that sound? [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]== Booklets ==
Nice workThanks for the booklets, Arbible! I've renamed got home on Friday, and they were waiting for me in the page mail. I look forward to reading them. — [[User:FrJohn|<strikeb>FrJohn</b>[[Coptic interpretations of the Fourth Ecumenical Council]]<([http://strike>www.orthodoxwiki. Thanks, [[Userorg/User_talk:FrJohn|Fr. John]&action=edit&section=new talk])
'''Update:''' Because things have gotten so longGlad they reached you. Thank you very much, I've restructured the original page into [[:Category:Coptic interpretations of the Fourth Ecumenical Council]] with subpages, all linked from [[Fourth Ecumenical Council]]. I've also put the category page as a whole into [[:Category:Contributed Articles]]Father. Keep up the great work!!! ThanksYours in Christ, --[[User:FrJohnArbible|Fr. JohnArbible]] 0018:3337, September 5, 6 Oct 2005 2006 (EDTCDT)
== Interviews New Additions ==Thanks for the quick reply. The article is my article and contribution to en.wikipedia.org. But I like your project and I think there should be an Orthodox wiki as well. I intend to add more monasteries from Romania. But that depends on the time I have. I also corrected the problem with the pictures and I have made them free for non-comercial use.
== Arabic == How would you say OrthodoxWiki in Arabic? Thanks! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) ::This would be: ::ارثوذكس ويكي ::(pronounced (transliterated in English): Orthozox wiki) ::Yours, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 08:02, November 2, 2006 (PST) :Thanks - changed the sitename setting on the Arabic version. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]):P.S. I've updated your sysop rights over there. Let me know if anything needs to be tweaked - I know, e.g. some of the special pages aren't translated. I guess that's not a super-high priority though. Maybe better just to get something on the main page, and transfer over the legal stuff. Feel free to take charge over there as much as you have time for. Thanks! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) ::Thank you very much, Father. I will do my best. Yours in Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 10:07, November 2, 2006 (PST) ==Coptic articles==Hi I am interested in articles about the[[Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria]] and I have been asked by [[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> on 15:45, March 29, 2007 (PDT) to organise with you as you are one of the administrators I have started and edited a lot of the atricles regarding this chuch on english and arabic wikipedia and I am hoping I will be able to transfer a lot of these atricles if not all to othodoxwiki if possible Looking forward to hear from you--[[User:Ghaly|Ghaly]] 16:06, March 29, 2007 (PDT) would you agree with me that both sides call themselves orthodox the differentiation is by saying Oriental or Eastern.--[[User:Ghaly|Ghaly]] 06:49, April 13, 2007 (PDT) == Thank you! == I had to let you know that I am glad that you're here to help maintain articles regarding things Coptic. You do a good job of keeping things balanced and within the parameters of OrthodoxWiki's self-identity. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 06:32, April 13, 2007 (PDT) == His Holiness Pope Shenouda III and what you claim against him... == My Dear Brother, How are you? I hope you are doing well.  I am very upset because what is written about His Holiness is absolutely 100% false and you won't allow me to correct it. I know for a fact that everything written is not true. How can you allow such things to be written? I don't understand where you get such ideas. His Holiness is a strong defender of Orthodoxy and he does not believe in any of what you have kept here on this page. Please show me what are your sources and I will prove to you this is false information. His Holiness is coming to visit in 1 month and I plan on presenting him with a copy of what is written so he can clarify it and if he has time, I will ask him to discuss it with us and I will ask to record the conversation.  I really hope you understand why I am upset about this situation. I hope to hear from you soon. Please keep me in your prayers. : Above comments by [[User:Orthodoxy4everr]] : There are even more points, including Pope Shenouda's 'denial that the Holy Spirit can dwell in the faithful', and Pope Shenouda's famous 'three bodies of Christ' theory adapted from Protestant writings (in their interpretation of what we receive in the Eucharist). All these issues are fully documented and referenced from Pope Shenouda's published writings/books and audio/video lectures. I invite you to read more about the Orthodox doctrine of theosis, the Barlaamite Controversy (14th century), as well as Pope Shenouda's writings against Pope Kyrillos VI in El-Keraza magazine during the sixties of the past century. --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 00:59, April 27, 2007 (PDT) == His Eminence Metropolitan Bishoy... == My Dear Brother I realized that you also protected his page when all you are doing is hurting him, not protecting him. Everything he said was taken out of context. Please realize that it is the enemies of the Church who do such things in order to create problems. Please allow me to edit this page as well. I can't stand to see this lies written about His Holiness and Metropolitan Bishoy. They are 2 of the greatest Theologians of our time and great defenders of Orthodoxy and they are being persected a lot as Saint Athanasius the Great was. I hope once again that you understand me. Please keep me in your prayers. : Above comments by [[User:Orthodoxy4everr]] : I am afraid what you are saying is not true! Please listen to http://zeitun-eg.org/members_contrib/anbabishoy06622.mp3 : Yours in Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 00:37, April 27, 2007 (PDT) '''Try learning Arabic first, then listen to the recording. It has nothing to do with baptism!''' --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 02:43, May 4, 2007 (PDT) == Please forgive me for the rude tone I was speaking to you in. == Dear Arbible, I am sorry for how I was speaking to you, please forgive me. I am very upset about this situation because you are calling His Holiness Pope Shenouda a heretic. I can't just sit quiet while you write all these things which are lies. I have written a lot in response to what you claim, but rather than respond, you simply deleted it and I don't understand why? Please respond and I hope to hear from you soon. Once again, I ask for your forgiveness for speaking in a manner that was rude. Please keep me in your prayers. : Above comments by [[User:Orthodoxy4everr]] : Dear Orthodoxy4everr, : Thanks for your messages. The published writings and recordings of both HH Pope Shenouda and HE Anba Bishoy speak very clearly for themselves, but they are in '''Arabic''' (please see my short comment in bold above). The persecution of the blessed departed Fr Matta El-Meskeen and his monks (which continues to this very day) is also very well known, Just and their writings also speak for themselves. We are not here to hide selected parts of, doctor, or embellish the truth. This is not a public relations department; this is a note (scholarly) encyclopedic work that seeks to say be objective and factual. : The Pope and the clergy have the highest respect, but these are events and facts that occurred whether some people like it or not. : Yours in Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 04:02, May 4, 2007 (PDT) == About saint Marina == I am not sure , but i beilive that Saint Marina was from modern-day Albania. :This is not my article, but the source quoted is the Coptic Synaxarium so I've added an {{ Oriental }} tag + moved St. Marina > Marina (according to OW naming conventions). Please feel free to edit as necessary. If you are going to use other non-Oriental sources, perhaps we should also remove the interviews to {{ Oriental tag}}. In Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 10:22, June 26, 2007 (PDT): I must check, ther is Saint Marina from Albania and her feast day is [[July 17]]. You could see in Prologue from Ohrid.  --[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 10:41, June 26, 2007 (PDT). God bless you. == Active appeal == There's currently an active appeal over at [[Agreed_Official_Statements_on_Christology_with_the_Catholic_and_Eastern_Orthodox_ChurchesOrthodoxWiki talk:Administrators]]. If as an admin, you would like to participate, please feel free to do so. Thanks! &mdash;[[User:FrJohnASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. JohnAndrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 15:59, August 19, 2008 (UTC)