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:Perhaps such categories could be included in the category [[:Category:Jurisdictions|Jurisdictions]]? —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 05:17, August 7, 2007 (PDT)
::Well, Magda, can you propose the name of such category (I agree that is better to place it in "Jurisdictions") ? - [[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 04:09, August 8, 2007 (PDT)
:::I don't have any specific ideas, other than I think the name should be concise and not necessarily restricted to France. With the creation of the new category, it would be a good idea to have a clear definition in the category page of what articles should be included. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 07:11, August 8, 2007 (PDT)
::::So, personally I think to a category like "Non-canonical Orthodox churches/groups/bodies", in "Jurisdictions", including, as the name said, all the orthodox groups they call themself "orthodox churches" but witch are not part of the "orthodox communion". If not, I think we are confusing our readers. Ask also Fr John and the others admins about that. - [[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 08:21, August 8, 2007 (PDT)
The Orthodox Church of France is not in the same category as the Church of the Gauls or other such bodies. The Church of France has spent most of its history under an autocephalous Church and is likely to be under another one. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 06:00, August 7, 2007 (PDT)
:You may consider that the Orthodox Church of France (ECOF) is not in the same category as the Church of Gauls. That depends of the category we are talking about. If this sub-category is "Non-canonical orthodox churches/groups/bodies in France" inside "Juridisction", in this case TODAY both communities are in the same category (i.e. canonical situation), even if the history of this two groups is different. - [[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 09:36, August 7, 2007 (PDT)
I would recommend something like [[:Category:Non-mainstream Jurisdictions]], which thus avoids the use of ''uncanonical'' (a dubious venture, at best). Specific articles about [[Independent Orthodox churches|groups with no historical relationship with Orthodoxy]] shouldn't even be on OrthodoxWiki. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 08:53, August 8, 2007 (PDT)
:See further discussion at [[Talk:Western_Rite]] — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk])
==Abusing the name of "Orthodox Church"==
In my opinion, this fellowship of religious communities (ECOF) is abusing today the name of the "Orthodox Church". They are not anymore a "church" from 15 years now, and since then this fellowship never shows a sign of repentance. On the contrary, they changed there denomination into "Orthodox Church of France" in order to grow the canonical confusion (they also buy more internet domain names "egliseorthodoxe", of course). I live in France from 2002, and nobody call them "Orthodox Church of France" here, but ECOF. Simply because this is an usurpation. In my opinion, we should give to "Orthodox Church of France" and "Orthodox Church in France" a "dezambiguisation" label. (sorry for the moment I post this comment. Is only because yesterday this article was translated in Romanian...) --[[User:Inistea|Inistea]] 00:03, April 16, 2009 (UTC)
The Church of France changed its name from the "Orthodox Catholic Church of France" (ECOF) to the "Orthdox Church of France (EOF). It makes no sense to claim that dropping "Catholic" was someone done to create confusion. We refer to churches by the names they give themselves. And, as there is not another church note as the "Orthodox Church of France", there is nothing to "disambiguate". --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 02:04, April 16, 2009 (UTC)
