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::Let me say too that we (and the Copts) aren't persecuting you out of spite, as you seem to imagine. We do not believe that someone can just start an Orthodox church on their own. Using these titles for your group, and the trappings of Orthodox, means to us that you are being deceptive in your claims. That's why we have to put the ''independent'' notice on your page -- otherwise we would sacrifice our own credibility. I hope you can understand this. I don't know why you want to create your own group, what your issues are. But to us being "Orthodox" means something - it has a definite shape and a canonical embodiment. Hope that helps, [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
I do not believe that we claim to be orthodox anywhere on our site anymore. We have not since the encounter with the copts. So that is a mute point. In fact, we have it written all over our site that we are independent from the mainstream churches, so that makes the claim of deception a mute point. So yes it does appear to be persecution rather than mere informational.