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In a monastery, a '''[[refectory|trapeza]]''' (or ''refectory''), is the dining hall where monks and pilgrims gather for food and conversation (although monks don't usually talk during meals). The OrthodoxWiki trapeza serves as the main discussion point for our website. Please feel free to join in—ask anything, suggest an idea, make a comment. We're glad to have you here. For other, more specifically designated discussion pages, check out the [[OrthodoxWiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. [[Category:OrthodoxWiki]] [[bg:Project:Трапеза]] [[el:OrthodoxWiki:Τράπεζα]] [[fr:OrthodoxWiki:La Cafétéria]] [[mk:Православна-енциклопедија:Трпеза]] [[ro:OrthodoxWiki:Cafenea]]
 
* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 1|Archive 1]], Feb 2005 – Dec 2005 (formerly the [http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=OrthodoxWiki:Anything_Goes&oldid=22917 Anything Goes] page)
* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 2|Archive 2]], Feb 2005 – Aug 2006 (formerly the [http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=OrthodoxWiki:Questions&oldid=37973 Questions] page)
* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 3|Archive 3]], Oct 2005 – Aug 2006 (moved from [http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&oldid=37962 Talk:Main Page])
* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 4|Archive 4]], Aug 2006 – Dec 2006 (2006 Trapeza archive)
* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 5|Archive 5]], through November 2008
 
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In a monastery, a '''[[refectory|trapeza]]''' (or ''refectory''), is the dining hall where monks and pilgrims gather for food and conversation (although monks don't usually talk during meals). The OrthodoxWiki trapeza serves as the main discussion point for our website. Please feel free to join in&mdash;ask anything, suggest an idea, make a comment. We're glad to have you here. For other, more specifically designated discussion pages, check out the [[OrthodoxWiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]].
== Closing down OrthodoxSource and SR ==Friends, I apologize for being absent for awhile. Please let me know if '''If you have any outstanding wiki issues you need to resolve!<br>As of todayquestions or comments about specific articles''', I am shutting down OrthodoxSource. Apologies please direct them to IXThis888, who has put in a good deal the Talk pages of work. However, there was not enough of a community of contibutors and moderators there, and I think it would those articles so that they will be better for us all at this point to keep the focus seen by editors working on this wikithem. Also, I will likely be shutting down SR soon. There has been no activity there for a long time, and I'm afraid that the required documents (about copyrights and policies) were never translated. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 12:45, November 25, 2008 (UTC)
== questions ==
hi, i have photos of the raifa monastary i would like to upload as well as a convent neasr yoshkar ola russia which i do not beleive yet has an article how would i create a new article for this? {{unsigned|Kharaku}}
:Hello, on the left hand side of your screen ... scroll down until you see the words
"upload file" .. then follow the steps ...its not too hard and always someone will help you categorise your work ... Good luck! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 01:16, November 29, 2008 (UTC)
== Adding a Photo.... ==[[Category:OrthodoxWiki]] [[bg:Project:Трапеза]] [[el:OrthodoxWiki:Τράπεζα]] [[fr:OrthodoxWiki:La Cafétéria]] [[mk:Православна-енциклопедија:Трпеза]] [[ro:OrthodoxWiki:Cafenea]]
I have been wanting to post my photo=Archives=* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 1|Archive 1]], but do not know HTMLFeb 2005 &ndash; Dec 2005 (formerly the [http://www.Could someone please give me a tip on how to do thisorthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=OrthodoxWiki:Anything_Goes&oldid=22917 Anything Goes] page) Thanks! {{unsigned* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 2|Jacifus}} Archive 2]], Feb 2005 &ndash; Aug 2006 (formerly the [http: Give a thorough read to the materials linked in the welcome message on your talk page//www.orthodoxwiki. There's plenty there that should helporg/index. php?title=OrthodoxWiki:Questions&mdash;oldid=37973 Questions] page)* [[UserOrthodoxWiki:ASDamickTrapeza/Archive 3|<font size="Archive 3]], Oct 2005 &ndash; Aug 2006 (moved from [http://www.5" colororthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title="green" faceTalk:Main_Page&oldid="Adobe Garamond Pro37962 Talk:Main Page])* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 4|Archive 4]], Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew<Aug 2006 &ndash; Dec 2006 (2006 Trapeza archive)* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/font>Archive 5|Archive 5]] <sup>, Dec 2006 &ndash; Nov 2008* [[User_talkOrthodoxWiki:ASDamickTrapeza/Archive 6|<font color="red">talk</font>Archive 6]]</sup> <small>, Nov 2008 &ndash; Mar 2011* [[SpecialOrthodoxWiki:ContributionsTrapeza/ASDamickArchive 7|<font color="black">contribs</font>Archive 7]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''May 2011 &ndash; Jan 2015* [[UserOrthodoxWiki:ASDamickTrapeza/Wiki-philosophyArchive 8|THINK!Archive 8]]''')</font></small> 23:56, December 3, 2008 (UTC)Feb 2015 &ndash; Jan 2020
=Topics=Seminarian input==Over at Citizendium, there is a programme whereby faculty at various universities enjoin their students to post their work. If I was wondering if it would make sense here to start publishing seminarians' papers. They come with faculty oversight and would be of sufficient quality to support reliability here. [[User:Thomas Simmons|Thomas Simmons]] 09:28work on a prayer book comparison, December 19, 2008 (PST)what prayer / attributes should I include? ==
:There I'm thinking of working on a more comprehensive and sortable Prayer Book guide. As part of this I'd write to all of the authors/publishers and ask for permission to post a select full prayer or two; if I got no response, if I'm able to get ahold of a copy, or network with others, I'd investigate how much of a book one can include under fair use for review purposes. So I'm wondering if people like this idea, and if so if there are any strong feelings regarding what prayer or prayer(s) to include. My initial thought is also the prayer usually attributed to St. Macarius the Great that includes a Wiki Site called line, depending on the translation, like ''"Patristic WikiBe merciful to me, a sinner devoid of any good deeds." that you should look at'' or ''"God, cleanse me a sinner, for I have never done anything ultimately good in Your sight. Father John set it up recently "'' Thanks and thanks to the admins for my new shiny account, -[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|talk]]) 16:38, February 17, 2020 (midUTC): Also, as this forum doesn't seem to be super-November active, and I think) and they are asking for 'd want to collaborate with people to contribute with prayer book collections who have no interest in regards getting an account here and then figuring out how to patristic related stuff use than less-than-completly-intuitive old-style MediaWiki discussion format, I've created a deeply unofficial mailing list at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/orthodoxwiki - but if y'all want to (or want me to - I'm a SysAdmin) set up an actual official MailMan mailing list @orthodoxwiki.org, or something along these lines already exists, let me know. 22Note that it'll send you an email with a link you have to follow, so be sure to check your spam/trash if you don't get anything after a minute or two. -[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|talk]]) 17:4717, December 18February 17, 2008 2020 (UTC)
== For Discussion:: 1. This is not really Could Early Modern English be added as a place for papers, but for encyclopedia articles. If seminarians wish to write Orthodox encyclopedia articles here, they are welcome separate language to do so.the wiki? ==
I'm trying to figure out the best way to include text in both [https:: 2//en.wikipedia. PatristicsWiki is not connected with OrthodoxWiki org/wiki/Early_Modern_English Early Modern English] andContemporary English versions, and I've come to the conclusion that the cleanest way to do this may be to have Early Modern English as far as a separate language on the wiki, so all the MediaWiki functionality regarding translations could be utilized. I'm in no way wedded to this idea, and of course I knowneed to convince the admins to do this. So, thoughts? -[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|talk]]) 17:25, March 7, 2020 (UTC):How much content do you think would be in Early Modern English? This is a small wiki: why would we separate it out into even smaller bits? -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 17:40, March 7, not set up by 2020 (ourUTC) FrGood Point; probably not worth it. John. &mdashMy aim was just to preserve the information in the archaic English without having to look at it if you don't want to;but thinking about it I can just put a link to the public domain source material, and if anyone really wants the old english the onus can be on them to figure out how to do it nicely :-) -[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[Usertalk:ASDamickDclark|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Protalk]]) 18:29, March 10, Garamond2020 (UTC):Oh, GeorgiaI think it's worth having here, Times New Roman">Frtoo. Andrew<Just make a page like Name/font>Old English or include it in the relevant source or something. We had a source document sister project for a bit but it was unsustainable. I don't think anyone would complain about you porting over public domain Old English sources that are relevant to Orthodoxy. Please do! -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]] <sup>·[[User_talkUser talk:ASDamickKoavf|<font color="red">talk</font>T]]</sup> <small>·[[Special:Contributions/ASDamickKoavf|<font color="black">contribs<C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/font>Koavf|M]] 19:47, March 10, 2020 (UTC)Oh nifty, do you remember the URL of the sister project? I'd love to just take a look around with archive.org to see what people were thinking would be cool back then :-) -[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|talk]] <font face=) 20:59, March 10, 2020 (UTC):Having a hard time finding it (just did 15 minutes poking around page histories and Internet Archive myself) but you can see the link on the Commons homepage: https://commons.orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page the old "Osource:"Adobe Garamond Proprefix is long deleted. As I recall, Garamondit never hosted much and really, Georgiait could just be combined into the appropriate language edition with scans or recordings going to commons. If you are adventurous, Times New Roman">(you can probably find it yourself in the Trapeza archives somewhere. If you ''really''need to find it, let me know. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[Usertalk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 22:41, March 10, 2020 (UTC)Sweet, that was enough to find https:ASDamick/Wiki/web.archive.org/web/20081225074135/http://www.orthodoxsource.org/Main_Page thanks! -philosophy[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|THINK!talk]]) 00:11, March 11, 2020 (UTC):Nice. Thanks for editing, D. Hope to see you around some. I'''m not very active here but I do pop in from time to time and I watch the Trapeza (obviously). Let me know if you need anything else. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)<]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/font><Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/small> 01Koavf|M]] 00:5436, December 19March 11, 2008 2020 (UTC)
:::Hi, I know that PatristicWiki is not linked with OrthodoxWiki but I mentioned it since I presume that everyone's core intention is == Anyone on / want to spread Orthodoxy in the way they know how ... who you are affiliated with wrt posting information publically is irrelevant as long as the end users are connected to God and the Truth. I had the impression (our) Father John was involved with it ... since, he monitors the emails for the Ancient Faith podcast that Dcn Matthew has been delivering - and he is from Monachos.net So doh! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 04:03, December 19, 2008 (UTC)be on a Discord server? ==
== ROKNo one's Basic Teaching been on Human Dignity, Freedom and Rights == I learnt recently the Russian Church adopted a [http[OrthodoxWiki://www.mospat.ru/index.php?mid=463 Basic Teaching on Human DignityChat|IRC]] channel any time I've been around, Freedom and Rights]. Metropolitan Kyrill held a [httpI believe none of the other IRC channels re://wwwOrthodoxy I've found have been active either.interfax-religion.com/?act=documents&div=65 speech] at Although I love IRC from a conference in Vienna in 2006 where he said this teaching is meaningful political and technical POV, Discord seems to have supplanted it for most people. I'm currently on all christans and at 8 of the UN Human Rights Council he [http://www.interfaxOrthodoxy-religionrelated Discord servers I've found, checking them out.com'''''Does anyone else use Discord? If so, what server /username?act=documents&div=121 said] in 2008 adoption of human rights is unsuccessful because it fades out moral. ''''' (I believe this is important'm Dclark). Would there be interest Perhaps we could petition the admins on whatever server we all mutually use to have make an article #OrthodoxWiki channel on this topic?{{unsignedtheir Discord server for us. -[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|Haiduk}}talk]]) 16:57, March 17, 2020 (UTC)
:Perhaps you should make it a "sub-topic" under the [[Church == Call for new editors in this time of Russia]] since it is specific to their jurisdiction? I will give it a shot first if you want and then you can come in and edit??pandemic? Remember to sign your posts with three tilde (~) signs. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 00:45, December 19, 2008 (UTC)==
:: I'm glad with just How would people feel about doing a revision. I agree adding it call for new editors on various Orthodox fora? My thought is that the pandemic is giving some people a whole lot to [[Church do, but a lot of other people a lot of Russia]] would be adequatehurry up and waiting to do. ItI know that the minor edits I's up ve been doing recently have helped me feel like there is more purpose to you to follow Frmy days, and have been a welcome focus away from the news. Andrew advice or convince himOn the other hand, I can see that, especially if that is possible worded poorly, such a call could seem callous and disrespectful. -[[User:HaidukDclark|HaidukDclark]]([[User talk:Dclark|talk]]) 19:Honestly now08, with no mucking around March 22, 2020 (UTC):I think that's valuable for society and with respect to Father Andrew for this wiki, in its not MY job own tiny way. Finding something useful to convince and neither do I want to convince him since I trust what he is telling me :) However, if you wish a good way to keep from going stir-crazy or feeling despondent..since it is your own idea ...go ahead. I merely was trying to be helpful but if its not appropriate for an article I can only just go with the guy who holds the petraxili .... -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf) ]]·[[Usertalk:Ixthis888Koavf|VasilikiT]] 14·[[Special:30Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 22:05, December 19March 22, 2008 2020 (UTC):: WellHi! As far as conversation and whatnot, things here have been pretty quiet for a LONG time. I'd be on more, but Coronavirus or not, my salvation is I've not dependent on having such an article at OrthodoxWikigot a whole lot of time. If I'm here, I just wanted to ensure information about this declaration finds it's way into this communitym usually over at the [[Orthodox Blogs]] page. I guess ('ve been on OrthodoxWiki since it is not easy to write 2005; a lot of the people who contributed a reasonable article on this subjectlot in the early days did so in the days before full-time jobs and families and the like. ;) it might be better It's always been a struggle to forward get new people who stick around - I'm not a mod, but it 's great to english language blogs or forums such as monachos.net. --have more activity here! [[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[Usertalk:HaidukKatjuscha|Haiduktalk]] 16) 03:3423, December 20April 2, 2008 2020 (UTC)
: That's interesting, but it's really more fit for a newspaper than an encyclopedia. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font colorCould an admin add this CSS that gives icons to youtube and reddit links (like facebook)? ="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:27, December 19, 2008 (UTC)
==Orthodoxy in Italy==<poem>'''Could an admin add this to the appropriate place? https://orthodoxwiki.org/User:Dclark/common.css'''I think it is completely inapropriate It gives icons to use youtube and reddit links, like the title facebook icons you can see at [[Orthodox Church in ItalyLivestreams]] for .Also you might want to add the <code>padding-right: 0px</code> to facebook and any other pre-existing instances of icons, as there is a bug where a non official orthodox churchbig space is inserted after the link which looks ugly, that exists only 17 years, when e.g. in Italy orthodoxy has a history for many centuries"[http://facebook.com/ here]. As far as I can see " there is no space in the wikitext between the link and the period, there is just an article referred unfortunate 13px padding for some reason.Thanks! (Note: If you want to [[Gennadios (Zervosadd icons to other links, the awesome font icons are all listed at https://astronautweb.co/snippet/font-awesome/) of Italy and Malta]] (the primate Note 2: There is a bug in all of these icons, including the '''diocese of Italy of the Ecumenical Patriarchate''')pre-existing facebook, but there isn't where it puts an article for his archdiocese "Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Italy"icon in the TOC if just the word is in the heading. Also in Ideally the english CSS for mine and italian wikipedia the problem existing facebook icon should be edited so it doesn't do this, but this is the samebeyond my CSS capabilities. It seems )</poem>-[[User:Dclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|talk]]) 17:51, April 12, 2020 (UTC):Just thought I'd do a *gentle nudge* on this as if I noticed the users who created remote services page is now linked to from the "Orthodox Church in Italy" articles were really quickly front page. If no one wants to catch the title! But it should remain like do this? I think no. And 'll do it is, in my point of view completely unacceptable if that happens also in the "Orthodoxwiki"I believe someone just needs to give me access to https://orthodoxwiki.org/MediaWiki:Common.css --[[User:Sp!rosDclark|Dclark]] ([[User talk:Dclark|Sp!rostalk]] 21) 13:2709, December 29April 26, 2008 2022 (UTC)
: Generally, we use whatever titles such groups give themselves, noting within the article that they are not in communion with mainstream Orthodoxy, etc.== just a note about a Canadian Orthodox History Wiki ==
: In any event, I have removed stumbled across this the redirect and changed all other day - definitely not the links to same as OrthodoxWiki, but interesting nonetheless: https://orthodoxcanada.ca/Main_Page[[User:Katjuscha|Katjuscha]] ([[Chiesa Ortodossa in ItaliaUser talk:Katjuscha|talk]].) 03:02, November 20, 2022 (UTC)
: You would be most welcome to provide the articles that you suggest are needed. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond ProAligning Templates to Right/Left, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Frallowing text to wrap. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 20:58, December 31, 2008 (UTC)
== Archbishop Nikitas (Lulias) Cekal Archimandrit Daniel Bambang Dwi Biantoro ==Hello, everyone! For those on the New Calendar -- Christ is born! For those of us who aren't, we've still got a couple of weeks.
Pada Februari 2007 lalu, Metropolitan Orthodox Hongkong dan Asia Tenggara, '''His Eminence Nikitas Lulias''' mengeluarkan keputusan pencekalan (pembebas-tugas-an) terhadap '''Archimandrit Daniel Bambang Dwi Biantoro''', yang artinya Archimandrit Daniel Bambang tidak diperkenankan lagi (''suspended'') untuk berbicara, melakukan tugas penggembalaan jemaat atas nama gereja. Meskipun archimandrit Daniel mengklaim dirinya menjadi bagian dari satu gereja tertentu, tapi yang bersangkutan tidak lagi menerima putusanRight now I am trying to create/ ketetapan (''Canonical Release'')dari Gereja sebagaimana disyaratkan. Hal ini atas sepengetahuan '''Ecumenical Patriarchate update the lives of Constantinoplethe Prophets and I have created a template for a series on their lives and not the Prophetical books themselves, as that has already been created and done well.''' {{unsigned|Maruli}}
: I'm honestly am having a problem with text not sure being able to wrap around the template no matter what language tag I add to the template or articles themselves, leaving quite a gap between the body of text and the bottom of the page. I know this is, but unless you post here in English, you're does not likely look good and I am hoping to get too many responsesfix that. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 18:46, January 4, 2009 (UTC)
Could anyone take a look at if there are any issues in my Template::It's Indonesian. Here's an English rendering (thanks OTProphets to the ever-improving Google Translate) -- "In February 2007, the Orthodox Metropolitan Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, His Eminence Nikitas Lulias-ban issue find where my error might be coming from? Or am I missing a decision (liberator-task-an) of Archimandrit Daniel Bambang Dwi Biantoro, which means Archimandrit Daniel Bambang not tag that should be more (suspended) to speak, doing penggembalaan of the church in the name of the church. Although Daniel archimandrit claimed himself to be part of added during article editing? I primarily borrowed a particular church, but they no longer receive the decision / provisions (Canonical Release) suggested template from the Church, as required. This top sepengetahuan Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople." — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwikiWikipedia with some additions.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 02:05, January 5, 2009 (UTC)
== Churches in Melbourne ==Please let me know if you're able to help me out here.
I plan on uploading around one hundred photographs of churches in Melbourne to In Christ,[[User:Ioannplyler|Ioannplyler]] ([[httpUser talk://commonsIoannplyler|talk]]) 06:28, December 30, 2022 (UTC):Done.wikimediaThanks for your work.org-[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/wikiKoavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/CategoryKoavf|M]] 07:Greek_Orthodox_churches_in_Australia Wikimedia commons] over the next few days04, December 30, 2022 (UTC)::Thank you, Justin! That is so much nicer. You are free I will be back on tomorrow to make some more additions to reuse them; all my photographs are released into the public domain. Hope to have done all of minor prophets as I summarize the Orthodox churches within a few monthsSynaxarion readings. [[User:OttreIoannplyler|OttreIoannplyler]] 11([[User talk:Ioannplyler|talk]]) 07:5516, February 16December 30, 2009 2022 (UTC)
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