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~~== Baby ==~~

~~Congratulations to you both! We are expecting our little baby girl in mid-October 2006~~== "Church" v. ~~We might have to swap tips! [[User:Joe Rodgers|{{User:Joe Rodgers/sig}}]] 23:48, August 5, 2006 (CDT)~~"church" ==

~~== Working~~ I understand "the Church" v. "a church" when it comes to a parish. However, I thought that one could also have "a Church" meaning an entity such as the [[Church of Russia]]. Currently, that article (Jursidiction section) mentions: "This includes these self-governing Churches:" Is this wrong? (I would appreciate it if you would add some clarification to the [[OrthodoxWiki:Style_Manual#Capitalization|Style Manual]] on ~~Bishop Basil entry ==~~this so I can refer back to it.) Thank you. —[[User:Magda|magda]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 15:05, June 2, 2008 (UTC)

~~Dear ASDamick~~==Vandalism 10June08==Figured just after I did it... :/ ...Wonder if there's a way to have a setting where all of an editors edits can just be mass-reverted? — by [[User:Pistevo|Pιsτévο]] ''[[User talk:Pistevo|talk]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|complaints]]'' at 11:56,June 10, 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your recent changes to the article on [[Basil (Osborne) of Amphipolis]]. I'm glad to see us working on this text together. I would like to see it accurately and dispassionately reflect the full state of affairs surrounding this bishop. I think that most of your revisions to my recent update of the text have been very helpful - again, my many thanks for them.

~~A few points that I think still need some further consideration~~* Thank you very much, Fr. Andrew. It's just my duty.--''[[User:Θεοδωρος|Θεόδωρος]]'' 12:02, June 10, 2008 (UTC)

* I'~~'Title:'' The title 'Bishop of Amphipolis' is contested, and highly controversial. It doesn't seem appropriate for the OrthodoxWiki article on the bishop~~ ve noticed you are able to ~~take a definitive side one way or~~ delete particular edits from the ~~other on this matter~~revision history. I think [[Pope Saint Dioscorus I ~~had altered the text~~ of Alexandria (Coptic POV)]] still needs help (or just to ~~address this, which you refined nicely. However, I do think it appopriate that the issue is left relatively open, by simply referring~~ be transferred to ~~him as 'Bishop Basil' in most cases (e.g. in the caption under the photograph~~OrthodoxSource and deleted here)~~. The title of the article gives him the title 'Bishop of Amphipolis' already~~, ~~which points things in a certain reading;~~ but I ~~think we need~~ 'd like to ~~be wary of giving 'our own blessing'~~ know how to ~~a matter that is disputed amongst~~ delete selected edits, and what the ~~patriarchates~~"undo" button does ... without harming an actual article. —[[User:Magda|magda]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 19:47, June 11, 2008 (UTC)

* ''Nature of the bishop's retirement:'' Thank you. Ihadn'~~ve corrected~~ t even noticed the ~~paragraph on the nature of the bishop's forced retirement~~(show/hide) link until you pointed it out. ~~This was not made because he sought reception in the EP~~—[[User:Magda|magda]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 22:15, ~~but because he sought to do so preemptorily~~June 11, ~~without canonical release and order.~~2008 (UTC)

* ''Title in summary box::Hmm. Poking it doesn'~~' In line with my point above on the bishop's title, I think it is only fair / accurate~~ t seem to ~~return the small footnote qualifier on the title~~ work in ~~the summary box at the bottom~~this case. ~~Not~~ I can rollback to ~~do so~~ the previous edit, or I can undo, but each option seems to ~~claim~~deal with single edits, ~~in the article, that the matter is disputed and open, only~~ when I want to go ~~on in the summary information~~ back several edits. I have tried several times to ~~present it as a closed~~copy and paste from an [http://orthodoxwiki.org/~~decided issue~~index. php?title=Pope_Saint_Dioscorus_I_of_Alexandria_(Coptic_POV)&oldid=60734 older edit], but I think ~~in fairness~~ that there may be too much data. I feel uncomfortable transferring this article to OrthodoxSource, because I don't know whether we have the right to use most of the ~~actual situation,~~ material from this ~~small flag is warranted and not in itself a bias~~ article (cfmost of it seems to be from [http://www.coptichymns. ~~for example~~ net/module-library-viewpub-tid-1-pid-384.html this article]). In any case, if you can get the ~~summary boxes on autocephalous churches on Wikipedia~~article restored (I give up), ~~where~~ I think it needs a ~~small asterisk is used next to churches whose autocephaly is disputed by some~~significant amount of cleanup. —[[User:Magda|magda]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 22:52, June 11, 2008 (UTC).

~~I've made edits to the article this morning to account for the above points; I hope they're in general things you approve of (I've made them as separate edits, so you can see the progression).~~== Help on Code ==

--Hi, I have looked through the various Help Files but there doesnt seem to be one that teaches you (or define) how to use the parameters (and what these are) for code. I have been working on putting a {{ }} together but I want to collapse my table. Do you know of a reference I cna read to educate myself on this code? and what will work on OrthodoxWiki? [[User:~~Antonios aigyptos~~Ixthis888|~~Antonios~~Vasiliki]] 0702:0858, ~~August 6~~June 12, ~~2006~~ 2008 (~~CDT~~UTC)

~~== Edit count ==~~:Do you know if the {{#if:}} are supposed to work on OrthodoxWiki? They work on Wikipedia -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]]

''== Recruitment of "~~I'm currently in the lead and hoping I hit 10,000 first. (There's probably no prize, though.)~~expert"''~~:I think we should throw a party. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]::Seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof ? [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]~~==

~~==Bp [[Thomas (Joseph) of Oakland]]==Thanks for responding~~ Hi, I wanted to ask you to ~~the issue on my talk page;~~ help me ... I ~~fear~~ am hoping thatat this point in time, in the ~~mood I was~~ number of people who go to OrthodoxSource is limited to ...two, three at the max ...because it will get crazy before a nice sensible 'framework' is put inplace ... anyway, ~~my response would~~ can you pop over to Orthodox Source for a moment ... and take a look at what I have ~~been somewhat less than an exhibition of perfect charity~~started to do and please dont freak out ... I am pretty computer savvy .. the only problem is I am having difficulty with the #if code ... ~~— edited by~~ which is messing up the format for this template [~~[User~~http:~~Pistevo|Pιs<~~/~~font>τévο<~~/~~font>]] ~~www.orthodoxsource.org/Template:Author ''~~[[User talk:Pistevo|talk]]''~~ ''] which is a key template to get this site up and running. Keep it quiet that I am working on that site because otherwise too many people will start sticky beaking into it and modifying things without the framework finishing ... -- [[User ~~talk~~:~~Pistevo/dev/null~~Ixthis888|~~complaints~~Vasiliki]]~~'' at 07:13, August 14, 2006 (CDT)~~

~~== Byzantine response~~ So, who should I recruit??? See, my development so far ... I want someone to ~~OCA autocephaly ==~~work with! Any ideas? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]]

The bullet lists in [[Byzantine response to OCA autocephaly]]: Are they simply listing every single argument made by the Byzantine churches against OCA autocephaly? Because this one really boggles the mind:~~" * Moscow's act is an attempt to extend Soviet influence into America~~== take a look . "... ==

This was perhaps tossed out by someone, somewhere, at some time, in an effort to amass as many objections as possible, but it clearly has no bearing whatsoever on the current state of affairs (as the rest of the article appears to). I'm not going to edit it quit yet (since you put it in there), but a footnote or an external link might be appropriate. Otherwise, it's completely spurious except as a historical curiosity which has clearly proven to be laughablehttp://orthodoxsource.~~--[[User:Basil|Basil]] 16~~org/Author:~~16, August 14, 2006 (CDT)~~Raphael_Hawaweeny

:==Existing structure==Thanks on the revert on my addition to the "graduates". I like to follow the existing structure a best I can. A few times I ~~agree~~ 've noted what appears to be more than one path, usually over using similar titles for articles and categories that ~~documentation would be helpful~~I think adds confusion in navigating. ~~Historical arguments would~~ At this time I can't remember my "examples!" Multiple paths may be ~~useful~~ necessary sometime, but my intent is to work within the present structure and keep ~~in, as they do give some perspective on~~ the ~~historical relations between the two jurisdictions~~structure simple to follow. [[User:~~FrJohn~~Wsk|~~Fr. John~~Wsk]]14:09, June 18, 2008 (UTC)

==~~Return~~PSCA==~~A nice~~PSCA = "Provisional Supreme Church Authority [of the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad]", ~~subtle change that has not gone unnoticed~~aka the "Agathangelites" -- the latest schismatic jurisdiction to emerge in Ukraine. I ~~look forward to your inactive partication! — [[User:FrJohn~~'ll get a brief article about them up. {{unsigned|~~FrJohn]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])~~Aleks}}

~~Welcome back, Deacon Andrew. I missed your discipline on keeping a consistent format for the articles~~==Stuff==1. I ~~mean this sincerely as I looked forward~~ am not trying to ~~your catching my~~ live in '''"~~typos~~bubble"~~. It had kept me on the~~ world''~~ball~~' ~~but~~ where only I ~~still needed a good editor~~can edit and only I can do as I please ... ~~[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 13:57~~so, ~~October 9, 2006 (CDT)~~please dont go inferring that I should "bugger off" and start my own wiki if that is what I want ...

~~==Congrats==~~2. I ~~see~~ am not upset because you ~~signed your last contribution "Father Andrew~~deleted the DVD articles, or Category links (because I make OW mistakes) I never said that so please dont infer that. I am/was upset with the overall revert you made to the OrthodoxSource Main Page.~~" Congratulations on your ordination! [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 22:31, October 30, 2006~~ That was a significant (~~CST~~rv)and I just would have liked the opportunity to have been treated like an equal in that case - drop me a conversational note giving me a warning that you intend to do it. That was what upset me, ''''the fact you didnt think I was worth discussing it in the first place'''

~~== corrupted letters ==~~3. I tend to get defensive with you because from Day One you have been pretty abrupt with me on just about every occassion ... so that pattern has made me feel like '''you dont think I am worth discussing with in the first place''' - even if you do talk to me ... it has been talking "down" on occassions, little comments in the past "highlighting" my weaknesses have made me feel inferior ... and have made me feel that everyone has a superior grasp of "English", I dont ... so ... I do note, that you are so willing to be "patient" with me; Wow, how awesome that you can exhibit ''patience'' with me? how good does that make me feel?

~~In editing the page [[Timeline of Church History]] with minor edits~~It doesnt matter. The point is, I dont seem to do it right in here. So, ~~the link you added [[bg:Времева лини�? на църковната и�?тори�?]] became corrupted~~goodbye from today. I ~~would fix it~~wont contribute to OW anymore if you all think that my contributions lack 'quality", ~~but~~ what is the ~~corrupted letters do not display on any~~ point of wasting my ~~browsers even if I look at the history.~~ time and yours? - [[User:~~Andrew~~Ixthis888|~~Andrew~~Vasiliki]] 1004:0452, ~~November 7~~June 19, ~~2006~~ 2008 (~~PST~~UTC)

:~~AFAIK~~See my response on your [[User talk:Ixthis888|talk page]]. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, ~~this is a known issue with an upgrade to MySQL 5. I'm not enough of a whiz to fix the problem~~Garamond, ~~and the damage is minimal~~Georgia, ~~so we'll have to do it manually~~Times New Roman">Fr.~~.. Sorry! —~~ Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[~~User~~Special:~~FrJohn~~Contributions/ASDamick|<bfont color="black">~~FrJohn~~contribs</bfont>]] ('''[~~http~~[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</~~www.orthodoxwiki.org~~font></~~User_talk~~small> 05:~~FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]~~00, June 19, 2008 (UTC)

== ~~Interwiki~~ My Apology and request for Help ==

~~Hi dear Father,~~ I ~~was leaving off the extra interwiki links~~ want to apologise for ~~the Mian page until the additional localizations~~ coming across (in written text) as such a cry baby ... I guarantee you I get frustrated that I can not explain myself simply and quickly and appropriately and I know you are ~~ready for "Beta" stage, by which~~ a cool priest but I ~~mean that~~ do get upset on big ticket items because all i want is the ~~necessary documents have been translated~~opportunity to discuss ... ~~The "release" stage~~ In any case, accept my apologies for going all huffy yesterday. I still stand by the fact I will ~~then be when there are strong enough communities and moderation around these wikis~~ not contribute to OW any longer since I feel that I am a nuisance rather than a help. However, in OS I really ~~launch them - i~~do want to contribute to developing the framework/skeleton (ie.~~e content~~ Set up all the codes and ~~spam problems are dealt~~ the worksheets) that can then be "filled" with the revelant Bibliographical lists by others (or even me). To do that, I really need someone to talk with ~~quickly~~over in the OS wiki. ~~— [[User:FrJohn|FrJohn<~~At the moment, I want to discuss a framework for Liturgical Texts (BEFORE) I go ahead and set up the entire code/~~b>]] (~~framework .... Can you help me? [http://www.~~orthodoxwiki~~orthodoxsource.org/~~User_talk~~OrthodoxSource:~~FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk~~Discussion DESIGN of Liturgical Text Portal] - [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]]00:35, June 20, 2008 (UTC)

~~==Metaxakis entry==~~

~~Dear Father,~~

Thank you for pointing out the issues of NPOV and MCB with the last edit I had entered. Of course I agree with having those standards for an encylopedic entry and I would like to see a better product along the lines you suggest. However I do have a few comments if i may.

* I feel that the substance of what was written - about the agenda of the Pan Orthodox Congress of 1923 - actually was accurate and unbiased; after all history is history, and if those were the subjects that were tabled at that congress, it is a matter of history and a very important matter at that, and information which every Orthodox Christian today has a right to be informed and aware of. Im sure you agree that to simply list the items of the agenda as they were, is, I think is a neutral approach ''(i.e. "here is what what was proposed in 1923: 1, 2, 3, 4,..etc, in fact seven changes in all.)'' Not sure how else to word that part of it, it is what it is; some subjects such as this particular example, may not be neutral in themselves, and for us to attempt to make them so or omit them risks the error of creating our own modern bias instead, a risk every historian is aware of. The writing of history must be impartial, whether the historical facts in themselves are or arent impartial to us is another matter. I agree that the source timeline that I located the information on would be NPOV/MCB, however as for the information in itself, it is either factual or it is isn't (fabricated)....in other words there was no editing or personal opinions presented with that list, just the list of proposals in 1923 itself . And I remember seeing a similar list of items (from the 1923 congress) years ago on an OCA site, which I cannot find now. And so for this reason I believe it is necessary and important to have this part included for the complete and unbiased picture.

* As for the second section I had entered (comparative study), which included a link to a site which detailed things about Metaxakis' early Masonic involvement right down to his troubled death, yes it too did not come from a MCB site, and that will need to be re-worked as you commented, perhaps with more research from other sources; but it too presented disturbing details, which in themselves were by nature * not neutral * (i.e. if he attained 33rd degree in 1909 that's important; if he was buried with Masonic honours in 1935 that fact too is important). It is doubtful how much other written research exists on this subject, at least in English.

~~At any rate I appreciate the direction. Would be interested in what you think. Cheers,~~

~~Chris.~~

== ~~Thanks and congrats~~ Estonian "Issue" == Father: Evlogeite! Regarding your comments about the Estonian Church. You write:"The reason for the difference in naming is that the EP's Estonian church is not regarded by the EP as a constituent part—rather, the EP regards the Estonian church as autonomous, having the same status as Finland, Sinai, etc. The MP, however, regards its Estonian church as being essentially an integral part of the MP, in contrast with the Church of Ukraine, which it regards as autonomous. Thus, the distinction." Please explain to me, what the difference in status is between the Ukrainian and Estonian Churches (MP). It seems to me that both have the same status within the MP. The Primate of the Ukrainian Church is confirmed by the Moscow Patriarch; so is the Primate of the Estonian Church (MP). Hierarchs of the Ukrainian Church serve in the Council and Synod of the Russian Church; so do hierarchs of the Estonian Church (MP). In fact, the Metropolitan of Kiev is an ex officio permanent member of the Holy Synod in Moscow. The Ukrainian Church receives its chrism from the Moscow Patriarch; so does the Estonian Church (MP). The name of the Patriarch of Moscow is elevated at services in the Ukrainian Church and in the Estonian Church before the names of the Metropolitans of Kiev and Tallinn, respectively. Thus, I see no difference between their status as "integral parts of the MP" or not. I do not know what the status of the Estonian Church (EP) is within the EP. However, it seems to me that, for matters of OrthodoxWiki: 1. If the Ukrainian Church is listed as an autonomous church with unrecognized autonomy in the box of autonomous / autocephalous churches, so too should be the Estonian Church (MP), alongside the Estonian Church (EP). This is already happening on the French version of the project. 2. There should be two articles. One called "Church of Estonia (EP)" and one called "Church of Estonia (MP)". The article "Church of Estonia" ought to be a disambiguation page. Doing otherwise may be construed as taking sides in a canonical debate. Yours in Christ, --[[User:Aleks|Aleks]] 15:56, June 23, 2008 (UTC): Done --[[User:Adeosja|Adeosja]] 16:46, August 15, 2009 (UTC)

~~Dear Father, thank you for your friendly welcoming and congratulations for your ordination! -~~== New Article -'''[[~~User:Cat68|Cat68~~Georgii Shavelsky]] ~~08:55, February 16, 2007 (PST)~~''' ==

~~== HC invasion ==~~'''Hi, when you have the time, could you please create his Biography - [[Georgii Shavelsky]] - to compliment the osource Memoir you create? I have cut and paste a really bad "Google" translation of a biography I found from the 'source', see below. ... I do not read or understand Russian so there is no way I can edit the google translation for accuracy of information bc I can not cross check it with the authentic material in the Russian language. I created a OrthodoxSource article to link the Memoir you created, please visit [[osource:Author:Georgii Shavelsky]] to link the OW article and also modify the osource article.''' - [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 01:22, June 26, 2008 (UTC)

~~Yes~~* Source: [http://209.85.171.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/shavelsky_gi/pre.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DShavelsky%26hl%3Den]----Life, ~~indeed, we have descended~~identity and fate of his father George Shavelski represents an unusually coherent whole. Since their memories of. ~~Our social ethics project has been~~George starts only in 1911, ~~basically~~when he received the appointment as military and maritime Protopresvitera clergy, ~~to make sure that there were articles written for just about every article under the Ethics section~~Publisher them. ~~This~~ Chekhov is experiencing living need to give readers a better understanding of the ~~first phase, followed by~~ life of this exceptional man and a ~~review by the professor, after which you can expect changes to these articles (whether or not they've been worked on by other people in the mean time)~~prominent cleric. ~~[[User:Vandrona|Vandrona]]~~

~~== Baby ==~~George O. Shavelsky was born on January 6, 1871 in the village Dubokray Vitebsk province, in the family dyachka that heavy peasant labour extractive piece of bread for his large family. Primary education has received in the future Protopresbyter Duhovnom College and then graduated from the first course Theological Seminary. Ahead holds the promise of higher education in the Theological Academy. But on. George has chosen to dedicate themselves to serving ordinary people, and in 1891 was appointed psalomshchika very poor parish of Vitebsk province. Here at the same time, and he became a teacher in rural schools. Four years later, he took the San priesthood and was appointed rector in his native village of another province. Two years later, his wife died, leaving him two-year-old girl. However, Father Georgy not fallen spirit, wholeheartedly commend pastoral work. Soon, on the recommendation of the bishop of Vitebsk, about. George was sent to St. Petersburg for the admission of Spiritual Academy. He brilliantly stood the entrance examination and immediately allocate as the best student of the Academy. [6]

~~Congrat's on~~ As far back as when his student, about. George was appointed preacher at the Alexandrovsky Engineering Plant and decent in the ~~birth~~ name of ~~your first child!-~~Grand Duke Dmitry Konstantinovich in Strelna. As a student 3 -~~[[User:AKCGY|AKCGY]] 15:08, March 5~~course, ~~2007 (PST)~~he became rector Suvorovskoy church.

~~Congratulations from the Andronaches~~When broke out Russian-Japanese war, ~~as well~~about. ~~Magda also wants me~~ George volunteered to go to ~~add that she approves of March births :) [[User:Vandrona|Vandrona]] 15:31~~the front and received the appointment in the army regimental first priest, ~~March 5~~then divisional decent, ~~2007~~ mostly at the end of the priest Manchu armies. For his outstanding leadership and exceptional prowess (~~PST~~the risk to the life he visited the front line, where once suffered severe concussion), about. George was elevated to the rank of archpriest of St. and awarded honors. And St. George. Vladimir with swords.

~~Aww~~In March 1906 on. George returned to his pastoral ministry in Suvorovskoy Church in St. Petersburg. In addition to pastoral service, ~~wow! I wish you and especially your wife~~ Fr. Georgy very early borrowed teaching activity. Since 1906 - till 1910 - the ~~best~~ year he was zakonouchitelem in Smolny Institute, a professor of ~~luck~~theology in 1910 Historical Studies Institute. ~~You're going to have your hands full, I'm sure~~ In the same in 1910 about. ~~I can't even imagine~~ George became a member of the ~~responsibility~~military spiritual Protopresbyter. ~~[[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 20:34~~ The next in 1911, ~~March 5, 2007 (PST)~~about. George was appointed Protopresbyter military and maritime clergy Russian Empire.

Events shook Russia's first revolution of 1904-5. heightened public interest Church circles to religious education officers and soldiers. O. George was the initiator of special institutions for officers theological readings. His lectures always been a huge success. At the initiative on. George, such readings have been organized in Moscow, Kiev, Kharkov and Kazan garrisons.

~~== Thanks ==~~Even before the start 1 - World War II, in the first period [7] his protopresviterstva (1911-1914's.) About. George has totally restructured and greatly raise the military and especially maritime clergy, it attracted a number of prominent clerics. It should be noted, and emphasize his ability and the ability to select a talented assistants and keep firmly in their hands, those, different abilities were not always at a height in nature. From the clergy subordinate to him, he demanded that everyone worked fully its forces and capabilities, but will certainly worked; negligent and stroptivyh he pursued and expelled. His kipuchey energy and skill to come to any good and useful case and bring it to the end, as well as their availability, responsiveness and willingness to come to the aid of everyone in need, he earned the love, respect and trust him in a subordinate of about 5,000 people (during the war) clergy, which in 1917 at its All-Russian congress elected him his life Protopresbyter.

~~Thank you for help~~By the end of July 1914. George has prepared a draft name to the highest total reorganization of management and maritime military clergy. To carry out his he was not given. Gryanula war. George O. received the appointment in Stavku High-Chief. Further story of his life and work on. George tells himself to the attention of readers memoir. After the end of civil war. George moved to Bulgaria. Here he first became an ordinary priest. Outstanding ability and talent on the bright predicant. George was soon rated as the Bulgarian church authorities and local universities. George O. was brought to the pedagogical work first as a teacher Sophia University, ~~Father.~~ then as a professor of Theological [~~[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]~~8] ~~18:25~~, ~~March 10~~Faculty of Sofia University, ~~2007,(CET)~~while he was zakonouchitelem and director of Russian grammar school.

~~==Julian==~~OkGeorge O. and was destined to survive the Second World War. He died rather quietly ugas 2 - October 1951. Despite the fact that the death of Fr. George could not inform all his friends, relatives and acquaintances, ~~I admit my ignorance~~the news of the death of Fr. ~~Thanks~~ George razneslas with lightning speed, not only for Sofia, but also for the ~~info~~province. The funeral on. George attracted a huge number of people simply wanted to ashes beloved pastor and mentor. ~~[[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 17:23, March 12, 2007 (PDT)~~

~~== I Hope I'm Doing this Right ==~~Outstanding organizational skills, teaching skills, independence of judgement, faithful to their convictions, combined in on. Georgia with remarkable humility in his personal life and habits. This modesty especially stay invisible when compared with the breadth of its aid near and far. These qualities about. George Shavelskogo served as a source of legends, which is still in his lifetime became folded around his behalf.----

~~Hello Fr. Andrew,We have communicated via e-mail before. In fact, I recall you asking me years ago to get involved in this site. Now that I am starting to figure out how it works I will finally try to do so.~~== The Reason You Make the Big Bucks ==

Fr. Andrew, as I noted on the main moderator page, the Liturgy of St. Tikhon article needs moderation -- more than you provided. I'm offended at being equated with my attacker, and had you bothered to read the bulk of the post, you'd note I more than presented a thorough case for why my edits improved the article. IMO, the word "almost" should be struck from the record, but the last time this same poster started three simultaneous edit-wars with me (Feb. 12-14), you threatened to ban us both if we ever did it again. (There I am getting blamed for ''responding'' again.) So, to avoid being banned by you, I'm asking you to do the moderator's job, read the background material about how the AWRV has implemented all these in actual fact (which you probably know already), and (if you're convinced) strike the word "almost" from the article (or if not, let us know why not). You're a moderator, and I'm tired of being blamed for responding -- so have at it. :) --[[User:Willibrord|Willibrord]] 03:32, June 28, 2008 (UTC):Thanks ~~for~~ . I know how busy you must be with PLC coming up, but I appreciate your ~~kind words~~looking things over.--[[User:Willibrord|Willibrord]] 22:56, June 28, 2008 (UTC)

Deacon Ben got in trouble for "responding"? He deleted an entire article of mine. (I put it back :) ) BTW, Father Andrew, THANK YOU for being objective and noting that a page titled "Western Rite and Old Calendarists" was about the Western Rite and Old Calendarists. I would love to review what "Willibrord" was "confirming"-- forgive my presumption but the man has an agenda. I wish I had the exact quote of Patriarch Elias of Antioch the first time he saw the "St Tikhon" liturgy: to paraphrase, he expressed surprised at an Orthodox liturgy that never once mentioned the Theotokos. --[[User:~~Frjohnwhiteford~~JosephSuaiden|~~Frjohnwhiteford~~JosephSuaiden]] 1621:4114, ~~March~~ July 18, ~~2007~~ 2008 (~~CDT~~UTC)

== ~~See~~ Something the ~~above comments~~ North Got Right ==

"I ~~finally figured out~~ 'm a Southerner by birth and at heart, though I do wish there were more proper bakeries south of the Mason-Dixon Line. That's possibly one of the major things Yankees have gotten right ~~way. My comments above were added a longer route~~."

~~== Versions of names ==~~They didn't do too bad at emancipation or crop-burning, either.--[[User:Willibrord|Willibrord]] 03:36, June 28, 2008 (UTC)

~~Bless father.~~ I am asking wich versions of names I should to use? I was using Serbian versions, because in articles abut St. Sava, St. Nikolaj etc were used Serbian versions. Now I was told to use English versions. I am confused. Literature in english uses more often Serbian versions. ~~[[User~~== Wikipedia:~~Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] March 20, 17:24 (CET)~~article or version permalink ==

~~== Interwiki ==~~I am curious as to why you changed the Wikipedia link back to the general article (for the [[Leo VI]] article). Since the Wikipedia page was listed as a source, my understanding is that OrthodoxWiki prefers the version permalink (cf. [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual (Importing)]]); for external links (not sources), I can understand using the interwiki for the general Wikipedia article, but this one is a source. —[[User:Magda|magda]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 16:22, July 1, 2008 (UTC)

~~It seams that ww have problems with inter wiki on serbian page. From English to Serbian it works good but problem.~~== Non-~~-[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 10:20, March 27, 2007 (PDT)~~standard characters ==

~~==images~~I remember (so I hope this happened) discussing on the wiki the policy of using standard Latin characters for article names. However, I cannot find any mention of this policy or any discussion about it. I checked the move log, and the only moves for "standard characters" are mine. Do you remember anything about this, or do you have thoughts on writing this up as a policy? (I think it' ~~deletion==~~s a good idea to have non-standard characters within the article, and as a redirect to the article.) —[[User:Magda|magda]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 22:06, July 1, 2008 (UTC)

~~Dear father your blessing~~== "African Orthodox Chruch" ==Hi Fr Andrew :)I wanted to ask you about a topic I just came across...~~returning from Mt~~. ~~Athos yesterday i found your notice about~~ In the ~~deletion~~ [[Time of ~~my images because of tags~~Church History]] article, the entry for 1924 refers to: '' ~~lack~~". ~~i'm not at all familiar with all that electronic-copyright-jargon and i'm not sure whether the corrections i did will work~~. ~~i hope i'm not troubling you too much with my ignorance~~Bp.~~may~~ Daniel William Alexander convenes meeting in Kimberley, South Africa, which decides to secede from the ~~Holy Week~~ African Church (a Protestant denomination) and ~~Easter brings light~~ affiliate with the "African Orthodox Church" in ~~your family and to you personally.~~New York under George McGuire;"''

~~yours/vassili~~: Anyways, I accidentally came across a webpage that discusses the history of the [~~[User~~http:~~Vassilip|Vassilip~~//www.coltranechurch.org/african.htm "African Orthodox Church"]~~] 02:47, March 29~~, ~~2007 (PDT)~~stating "The A.O.C. was founded by George Alexander McGuire in 1921."

~~Dear father~~After reading this short summary, I am still not sure who this group is,..obsvioulsy non-canonical with mainstream Orthodoxy?? So, should we have an article on this group in the OW, for clarification purposes? Or at least an article on George Alexander McGuire? What do you think?Cheers,Chris.[[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 18:32, July 4, 2008 (UTC)

both images are personal and i have the only original copies. truly i'm not cognizant of copyright policies and i used what i thought as probably more appropriate (i used the ''commons'' one because i read i had to do it).~~again, i'm relly sory~~ == A request for ~~all that mess.~~Orthodox Christian participants in a project ==

~~yours indeed: [[User:Vassilip|Vassilip]] 05:08~~Dear Admin AsDamick, ~~March 29, 2007 (PDT)~~

~~== Kallistos Ware~~ Since I believe in the unity of saints in regards to Christendom as a whole and because I have read excellent works written by Orthodox Christians, I was hoping to get the Orthodox Christian community involved in a project. ==

The project I ~~arrived~~ currently have going is the refutation of atheism on the internet. As part of this effort, I created what is likely the seventh most popular article on atheism on the internet in the English speaking world and the article can be found here: http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism The article is currently ranked #7 at ~~his~~ Google USA for the search "atheism". I can use this article ~~and was surprised~~ to ~~find that his elevation to Metropolitan had already been updated. Kudos~~help other articles rank high on the search engines for various articles on atheism by featuring those articles in the aforementioned article.

I ~~was at a lecture hosted by His Eminence earlier today at [http://www.gocoos.org/ Greek Orthodox Church of Our Savior]~~ currently work in ~~Rye, NY. The parish priest who introduced him mentioned to~~ the ~~audience that "Bishop" Ware was unaware of his elevation until the priest told him upon his arrival~~search engine optimization field which is simplified is helping clients rank high for Google for various topics and searches. ~~Thus was~~ I ~~bemused at reading~~ am willing to teach you some excellent principles in regards to this field so your ~~update~~material would likely have prominence on the internet. ~~Just out of curiosity, were you at the lecture as well? One of~~ The principles are easy to learn and it would be my pleasure to teach my fellow Christians involved in a anti-atheism campaign some fundamental principles in regards to getting their material to rank high for the ~~brother priests perhaps? (There were quite a few other priests,~~ search engines and ~~even~~ do it on a ~~Romanian bishop) Or did you come upon the information some other way?~~volunteer basis.

~~[[User:Hellenica|Hellenica]] 20:59~~Since Orthodox Christianity suffered greatly under atheistic communism, ~~March 31~~I would like to have the Orthodox Community be a part of the anti-atheism campaign. Also, ~~2007 (PDT)~~there are many Orthodox Christians. Perhaps you could provide me useful feedback in relation to the above anti-atheism article. Also, perhaps you could help me gain the contributions of Orthodox Christians to the anti-atheism campaign.

~~== Capthca for registration ==~~I decided to start this campaign partly due to the the New Atheism that has reared its head as of late.

~~I see~~ Please let me know if you ~~guys~~ or others are ~~having~~ interested in any of the ~~same problem as what I also want to deal with on our site~~above. ~~See~~You can contact me at my user talk page. [[User: ~~http~~Manchuria|Manchuria]] 14:~~//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Captcha_extensions~~49, July 13, 2008 (UTC)

~~As they claim, Capcha at account creation would prevent these spam bots. --[[User:JohnK|JohnK]] 06:47, April 11, 2007 (PDT)~~== OSource Main Page ==

~~== Re~~Hi, could you please replace current Main Page code with revised code that I have temporarily placed at: ~~Thank you! ==~~'''[[osource:Sandbox]]'''. Thanks - [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:05, July 16, 2008 (UTC)

~~Christ Is Risen! Thank you very much, Father Andrew, for your kind words. Yours in Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 09:01, April 13, 2007 (PDT)~~== Hosting copyright material on OrthodoxSource ==

~~==Article Titles==Father Andrew~~Hi,I have ~~been working~~ received permission from an Orthodox priest to host his articles on ~~articles concerning Irene~~OrthodoxSource. Now, ~~wife of Leo IV, and Theodora, wife of Theophilus.~~ I ~~am about ready~~ wanted to ~~post them~~ make sure that this would be ok before going and dumping his articles on ~~Orthodoxwiki, but~~ OS so that I ~~need good titles~~ dont get (a) myself into trouble and (b) OrthodoxSource into trouble. What is the process for "documenting" the ~~articles. To avoid too much work establishing titles~~ permission to use the article? Its only me that has a copy of this email on ~~the web,~~ my private gmail email - do I~~'ve sought your opinion as you have done so well in maintaining discipline of styles among all our articles.~~ forward Father John Schroedel a copy and is that enough to cover orthodoxSource from copyright issues???? I ~~find identifying many saints confusing with many of the saints having different titles applied~~ am very interested to understand what to ~~them~~do from here before I start dumping his material. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 02:02, July 21, 2008 (UTC)

~~I notice that Wikipedia uses title of their names and a century when they lived, to avoid similarities with other Irenes and Theodoras~~== Help Me . These seem bland, but I haven't found any Orthodox source on the web that provides distinct identification for these saints! I noticed in some edits you made to Orthodoxwiki articles that you seem to follow the Wikipedia practice. ~~The Orthodox church sites haven't been any help~~. please ==

~~Following~~ Can you please modify the ~~practice of Theodora (Justinian~~Main Page on OrthodoxSource to '''~~s wife) does not appear reasonable for Irene or Theodora as their husbands were~~ "~~Iconoclasts~~remove". ~~For Irene, many if not a majority of~~ ''' the ~~sites identify Irene as~~ sentence ''"~~Irene~~ An online repository of ~~Athens~~archival and contemporary open-license Orthodox content..."~~. I have been thinking of using this~~ '' which advertises orthodoxSource as ~~a title for her. Another could be~~ "~~Irene the Iconodule or Iconophile~~Open-license". ~~For Theodora the Iconodule/iconophile would fit nicely~~..

~~Your comments~~ I was emailing Father John Schroedel who explained that by this sentence it can be understood that: ''by open-license, I would mean something that can be freely copied, and ~~suggestions are solicited~~perhaps modified.The Creative Commons licenses do a good job of allowing a range of terms and conditions while still encouraging the free use of the content.''

~~In passing~~ This is one of his concerns, since he visions: ''I ~~notice Irene's feast day does not appear on~~ had envisioned, for example, putting archival/historical content there -- such as the old pamphlets that constitute a large part of the ~~calendar~~ printed record of ~~saints, August 9~~ Orthodox in the U.S. ~~An Irene appears for August 13~~in the early part of the last century, ~~but after some investiagation this saint appears to be~~ or photos of Orthodox places that are distributed under a ~~"Princess~~ creative commons license, or other public materials, epecially those items of ~~Constantinople-tonsured Xenia with a date~~ significance for the history and identity of ~~1124"~~the Orthodox community. ~~This confused me for a while!~~''

~~Bill Kosar~~I would like to make him happy (and do things right of course) but I can not modify the Main Page to rectify this mistake of mine :-) That sentence ''"An online repository of archival and contemporary open-license Orthodox content..."'' is a direct cut and paste from "WikiSource" when I was setting up the structure and since you have locked the Main Page, I can not rectify my edit ...- [[User:~~Wsk~~Ixthis888|~~Wsk~~Vasiliki]] 1523:0049, ~~April 15~~July 21, ~~2007~~ 2008 (~~PDT~~UTC)

~~::Thanks, Father. I think we are on the same path.[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 18:13, April 15, 2007 (PDT)~~==~~?????Licensing~~Fr John - old Pamphlets ==What is going on? I just noticed that you changed the license agreement from being able to export to not being able to export? Right after I quoted it for the exports to Wikipedia I did this morning. What or who grants licensing for Orthodox wiki and how do I get in touch with them? Also what part makes the dual license incompatible and doesn't that violate using the wiki engine?~~[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] 13:02, April 24, 2007 (PDT)~~

Hi, because I am in Australia picking up the phone is a hard thing to do : 1-) Can you speak with Father John and ask him which Pamphlets he would like loaded onto OrthodoxSource. ~~The wiki engine has nothing~~ I am happy to ~~do with licensing~~start "setting" it all up for him ...if you like you can email me the *. Itpdf's ~~just a piece of software~~on my personal email ...Do you know how to access my email without me having to post it publicaly? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 00:07, July 22, 2008 (UTC)

: 2I really have no idea what you're talking about. Unfortunately, I ~~just clarified~~ am also unable to do much outside contact at the ~~existing terms more explicitly~~moment, since I ~~saw that there was some disagreement going on over~~ am at ~~Wikipedia on the subject~~a clergy conference and away from home. (I also don't even have Fr. John's phone number!) —[[User:ASDamick|Fr.Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''') 19:31, July 23, 2008 (UTC)

: 3. Licensing on OrthodoxWiki was defined by the administration within the first year of its inception. It is unlikely to be changed at this point, since so many edits here have been contributed under its terms. (This same message is being posted on your talk page.) —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] 14:10, April 24, 2007 (PDT)

~~== Thanks ==Thanks~~ Look, thanks for that. I did a OW search on the ~~welcome,~~ word "Taxiarhis" and did not find it ... it never occured to me to search on the "Taxiar'''c'''his" spelling ... thanks for ~~helping us sort out~~ fixing up and sorry to waste your time on something I should have picked up in the ~~copyright mess over at wikipedia~~first instance. -- [[User:~~Pastordavid~~Ixthis888|~~Pastordavid~~Vasiliki]] 0923:1814, ~~April 25~~July 30, ~~2007~~ 2008 (~~PDT~~UTC)

== ~~Deletions~~ Good-morning ==

~~'''~~Hi, I am a little confused because I didnt revert anyones edits (?) As for the actual note you left on my page ... Thanksand Sorry, if I "intercepted" the edit by the Publication company but I didnt think (at the time) I made any drastic changes (like I didnt delete anything). I dont believe I 'disciplined'' them either I ~~see your following right behind me. I would delete~~ made a friendly suggestion and encouraged them by even adding a link and the potential for them ~~myself~~to contribute! Anyway, ~~but...~~ I~~'m glad~~ dont know why as a grown woman I have to explain and apologise by now you should know that I am keen in assisting here so by default - SORRY! Thanks for the heads-up! Maybe you can think about "using"/or "directing" me towards what youactually want from me because quite frankly it gets tiring doing the wrong thing all the time :-) and then being 'advised'~~re apparently patrolling Special~~:~~Recentchanges~~-) so, I will leave it up to you to leave a "task list" for me to follow through on. Cheerio and God Bless. [[User:~~Koavf~~Ixthis888|~~Koavf~~Vasiliki]] 1622:1850, ~~May 2~~August 6, ~~2007~~ 2008 (~~PDT~~UTC)

== Email ==

What are the steps in "My Preferences" for making my email accessible without being public? - [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:07, August 6, 2008 (UTC)

==elTalk:Sarum Use==Hello Fr, I was trying to add some comments to this discussion page, and when I tried to save it removed all existing comments.~~orthodox~~Tried to undo the revision, and the undo did not save.~~org==~~Not able to restore,,can you please help?? Thanks, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 21:22, August 26, 2008 (UTC)

~~Fistly, I'd like to thank you for your answer~~== http://www. ~~Secondly, if I've undestood well your explanation, I should propose [[:el:User:kostisl]] appointed for host -if he wishes~~chrysostom. ~~He has already done excellent work on Orthodoxy in greek wikipedia, and he is the proper person I thing for this kind of job~~org/writings. ~~I wish you the best--[[User:Kalogeropoulos|Kalogeropoulos]] 06:22, May 25, 2007 (PDT)~~html ==

Hi, two of your links do now work on the "Writings" page ...

:BEATITUDES: http://www.ocf.org/OrthodoxPage/reading/St.Pachomius/matthom15.html

:LORDS PRAYER: http://www.ocf.org/OrthodoxPage/reading/St.Pachomius/matthom19.html

I thought you might want to know this so you could update the page.

[[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:28, November 2, 2008 (UTC)

~~== You dont like~~ PS. I also took a photo of an icon of Chrysostom within the Church of the Holy Trinity, Taksim, Constantinople. It is a gorgeous fresco of him ... I am more than happy to give you permmission to use it on your webpage ... oh yeah, and His relics (God Bless, at the Patriarchate I was weeping when ~~people edit your articles!! ==~~I realised who I was venerating) ...one catch only ... can you change the background colour of the web page from black to something more positive and colourful like white?? LOL [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:30, November 2, 2008 (UTC)

~~Ive noticed~~== Osource ==Hey, ~~Father Andrew, that you dont like~~ it ~~when people edit your articles. you get pissy and then re~~'s getting all too hard :-~~edit them back to their old and most times INACURATE form. How are you supposed to help this site if you cant put your own ignorant biases??~~)

~~Shame~~ I ''have'' asked in the past for some assistance but been ignored - except for Andrew, who has legitimately stepped in and helped set up codes and stuff. Awesome guy. I can offer again, what I said months ago, ... if '''you''', or someone, can just '''DUMP material''' into a Sandbox ... that you believe should be ON Osource or you want on ~~you!! {{unsigned|Fredthomzac}}~~Osource ... I will do the clean up work and categorisation and formatting the very next day :-) if we dont all come to some working solution the site will just sit there neglected ... which would be such a shame as there are many people who are accessing it to read the articles.

~~: Well~~So, ~~none~~ what do you say? Will you work with me? Give me 'dumps' of ~~the articles on OrthodoxWiki are~~ "myanytyhing" ~~articles.~~ that does not breach copyright and I ~~presume this note is regarding~~ will fix it up for the ~~[[Church~~ good of ~~Estonia]] article. I've addressed this both on your talk page~~ OW/OS and at the talk page for the article. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] 17:43, May 30, 2007 (PDT)Orthodox community?

[[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 22:29, November 20, 2008 (UTC)

== ~~Greetings!~~ Updating The Great Schism ==

~~Dear~~ Fr. Andrew,~~Thank you for the greetings. I'll send your regards if ever I will meet him.~~:

~~[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 03:19~~Who would you prefer that I get permission from to post this material? (I will do so, ~~May 31~~if possible) , ~~2007 (PDT)~~ because I believe it will greatly benefit this article!

Thanks,

~~Fr. Andrew wrote:Hello! I don't know if you know Archimandrite Philemon~~ Jaye (~~Castro~~Jacifus)~~, but in case you do, I wanted to pass on greetings to him. He and I were in seminary together at St. Tikhon's for two years.~~

== Great Schism Edit ==

~~== Not just a Comment on a Talk Page ==~~Fr.

~~Dear Father,The allegation~~ I respectfully disagree that the ~~Episcopal seat of the Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia is "VACANT"~~ Entire Eastern Church was not ~~merely~~ excommunicated. The Bull said as much. I refer you to Bishop Kallistos "~~a comment on a talk page~~The Orthodox Church". ~~This allegation was "incorporated" into the article by a certain Marcus (an Orthodox from the Philippines, a former ROCOR member)~~ I consider his account to be carefully researched and ~~he wrote:~~accurate.

~~"The '''Episcopacy is currently vacant as of March, 2007''' and may be abolished pending the decision of the Holy and Sacred Synod of Constantinople."~~Jaye (jacifus)

: Please refer comments on the content of specific articles to their respective talk pages. Thanks! —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki- ~~User MARCUS Revision as of~~ philosophy|THINK!]]''') 01:08~~:56~~, ~~May 4~~December 14, ~~2007~~2008 (UTC)

~~Please see:~~ ~~[http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title~~=~~Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&oldid~~=~~50808] User MARCUS Revision on May 04, 2007 in OMHKSEA "Episcopacy".~~Editing OId Believers ==

~~[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 09:48~~Dear father Andrew, ~~June 2, 2007 (PDT)~~

~~Fr. Andrew wrote:~~..Perhaps you should have a look at the Old Believers article one again.~~and~~All cleaning up has been reverted by Fatman2021, in without any ~~event, it's just a comment~~ explanation on ~~a talk~~ the Discussion page. ~~It wasn't even incorporated into the article. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 05:24, May 30, 2007 (PDT)~~

~~==Let~~I suppose we don'~~s Hope ==~~t leave the article as it is now and if you have the authority to clean up once again, I'd strongly suggest you'd do so. (If I were to do the job, I'm afraid an edit war with Fatman2021 may become inevitable.) [[User:Vasstar|Vasstar]] 14:13, December 14, 2008 (UTC)

~~Dear Father,Certain individual/s are out to create confusion in the minds of faithful members belonging to the '''canonical''' Orthodox jurisdictions. Let's hope they will stop spreading lies and rumors.~~== URGENT - Ambush by computer generated Users ==

Hi, we are about to be ambushed by computer generated User accounts ....... [[User:~~Filipino~~Ixthis888|~~Filipino~~Vasiliki]] 2004:5105, ~~June 2~~December 17, ~~2007~~ 2008 (~~PDT~~UTC)

==Name of ROC==

I have read the policy by the link you have indicated. Frankly, i did not quite get the meaning clear, or the purpose thereof. The thing with the ROC is that there are 2 legally official names of the entity (as registered by the RF Justice Minisrty): ''Русская православная церковь'~~Fr. Andrew wrote~~' and ''Московский патриархат''~~: Regarding your recent comment: Sorry about that~~. ~~When I looked at~~ In all honesty, the name used in the relevant articlehas never been in existence, ~~that edit~~ albeit it could be an historiographic designation covering the multitude of names; in effect the ROC had not had ~~already been changed~~a properly official name prior to 1943, ~~so all I saw~~ when it was ~~the talk page comment~~formally recognised by state under this name. ~~My mistake. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 10~~[[User:Muscovite99|Max]] 18:4500, ~~June 2~~December 18, ~~2007~~ 2008 (~~PDT~~UTC)

~~Retrieved from~~ : This is answered on [[Talk:Church of Russia]]. As is noted in a number of our policy documents, we have our own taxonomy here, which often does not reflect official, legal names. The official OrthodoxWiki standard for all Orthodox churches is ''Church of [Place]''. This policy has been in effect pretty much since the wiki was founded in 2004. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</~~orthodoxwiki.org~~font></~~User_talk~~small> 19:37, December 18, 2008 (UTC)::~~Filipino~~*I can perfectly see the logic behind such taxonomy and even accept it. But the point is, as i noted in my original edit comment, that such designation is not only formally incorrect, but in essence as well (by essence i mean the ecclesiological reasoning that obviously underpins your taxonomy). This is no more a Church of Russia than it is a Church of Ukraine (in fact, Ukraine could well lay a historically better grounded claim to it), or Latvia, for that matter. If one were to base the wording of the designation on the title of a Primate in question (which would be a legitimate thing to do within your taxonomy), the article would have to be called "Church of Moscow" (or "Church of Rus"). Paradoxically, you have chosen to employ the current official name of a country, which constitutes only a fraction (less than half by parish numbers) of the "canonical territory" of the ROC. How can you warrant that?[[User:Muscovite99|Max]] 20:00, December 22, 2008 (UTC)

::: It's warranted with a combination of basic ecclesiology (i.e., the Church is not "Russian," "Greek," etc., but it is the Church in and of a particular place—Russia, Greece, etc.) and of English usage. ("Church of Russia" gets about 30,000 hits on Google.) It's notably the usage of such groups as the OCA[http://www.oca.org/OCworldrussia.asp?SID=~~= About Soko~~2], etc. Of course its usage pales in comparison with "Russian Orthodox Church," but that term is objectionable for the reasons previously noted. ("Church of Moscow" is a somewhat idiosyncratic term hardly ever used except in larger, translated phrases such as "Estonian Church of Moscow Patriarchate.~~tica ==~~")

~~Dear father, bless~~::: The many parishes in Ukraine are covered by a separate article: [[Church of Ukraine]] (along with articles on the irregular bodies,as well).

~~I mast~~ ::: No matter what one names these articles, they'll not be satisfactory to ~~warn you~~ all. This is what our policy here is. Our policy has been to use the city names for the ancient patriarchates but common country names for the newer autocephalous and autonomous churches (the exceptions are the OCA, ~~that some individuals in Serbia~~which is of somewhat irregular status, ~~neither~~ and the Church of ~~them is cleric~~Sinai, ~~traying to acuse Metropolitan John for warious heresies~~which designates a region). ~~They are gathering on website gazimestan.com. Holy Synod condemed~~ You'll notice that this ~~website. They targets are also bishop Ignjatije of Branicevo and some other Serbian and Greek Theoligicans~~is consistently the case.

~~Yors~~ ::: Anyway, the proper place to discuss the names of articles is on the talk pages of the articles themselves. That way, everyone interested in ~~Christ~~working on the article can participate. Please direct future comments to [[Talk:Church of Russia]]. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''') 21:25, December 22, 2008 (UTC)

~~--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 10:04, June 15, 2007 (PDT)~~== Prove to Me that We need that Guy ==

I will be the first to put UP my hand and say "WE NEED THAT GUY"! bet you never thought I would say that they way "sou vgazo glwssa oli tin wra" [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:15, December 19, 2008 (UTC)

: Vasiliki, it's not "we need ''that guy''," but rather I'm the Guy Who Says "Prove To Me That We Need That [article/addition/thing/etc.]." There is a reason why I placed the hyphens where I did. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr.~~Thanks for your comments on my~~ Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk ~~page about the timeline. Yes it~~]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]'''~~s true the later more recent historical entries~~ ) 21:04, December 19, 2008 (~~esp. after 1991~~UTC) ~~do amount to mini paragraphs~~::I give up . ~~Its easier of course to add more details about events closer to our own time, but you are right~~. ~~I was aware of it as well, but originally concentrated on recording the content at first~~. I ~~will certainly try to go back asap~~ just wish you could not be so 'scholastic'with me some times and ~~edit out the extraneous details for those entries~~just ... ~~May take some time but~~ lighten up :) I ~~will definitely go back and work on it, aiming for headlines only. If there are articles to place the extra details~~ apologise in ~~will do~~advance . ~~Would like to add a few more entires this week, then go back and edit out as much as possible from the long entries I placed~~.~~Many thanks again~~.[[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 13:13, December 20, 2008 (UTC)

~~Cheers~~::: Vasiliki, it's not "scholastic" to expect that readers actually read carefully. It's just good language usage. There's a reason why grammar, syntax, punctuation, etc., work the way they do. It might help if you didn't so frequently assume the worst when reading what other folks write.

~~Chris~~::: Certainly, perhaps this level of reading and writing comprehension is not needed for everyday life (though I think it is!), but it surely is absolutely crucial when writing a reference work like an encyclopedia! Indeed, if being "scholastic" is needed anywhere, it's here. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''') 16:21, December 20, 2008 (UTC)

== Timeline ==Hello Father, Eulogeite. First I wanted to wish you very warm Christmas wishes. Christ is born, Glorify Him! :)I wanted to ask if I can proceed and create the 10 sub-articles for the Timeline of Church History article (one sub-article for each of the 10 periods listed on the main article). Each sub-article would look exactly the same as the main article now does ,except that it would contain only the information for that particular era of course. I proposed a criterion on the talk page for what may be included on the reduced main timeline page; basically, if you agree and I can proceed to create the 10 sub-articles, with your blessing, and then shorten the remaining main article according to the criteria I attempted to set out, it would be great; I would emphasize that no information would be lost -- all the complete listings of the current timeline would remain on the 10-sub-articles. Or, I could create the 10-sub-rticles, and then you could do the final edit (reduction) of the main page then? Just an idea! Please let me know what you think! Cheers and Merry Christmas Father. Chris. :)[[User:~~Angellight_888~~Angellight 888|~~Angellight_888~~Angellight 888]] 2003:4503, ~~July 8~~December 21, ~~2007~~ 2008 (~~EDT~~UTC)

==Deletion of template==

HEY - you deleted two templates so all the information on these is GONE! How do I get the information back? I know you are the moderator/administrator but can you PLEASE just ONCE be kinder ... give me a 24 hour notice to MOVE the information????? Can you please resupply the stuff IN the templates. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:00, January 1, 2009 (UTC)

: It's not gone. I've noted on your Talk page where you can find it. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] <font face=~~Greetings again Father~~"Adobe Garamond Pro,~~I have made the requested edits as you have suggested. I have listed all the dates edited and shortened in the summary.~~ Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">(~~I eliminated 5 kilobytes from the total file~~'''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')~~. I think it is a much better product. Please go through it and let me know what you think. If you think there is room for more please let me know or feel free to amend~~ 13:50, ~~however I think it is okay now. Thanks again. Also added several links~~January 1, ~~another useful way to shorten as you suggested by pointing to info elsewhere. Hope it's better.~~2009 (UTC)

~~Regards,~~== Font Colours ==

~~Chris.~~Which article talks about how to do font colours and different text styles in HTML? [[User:~~Angellight_888~~Ixthis888|~~Angellight_888~~Vasiliki]] 1203:~~30am~~25, ~~July 8~~January 5, ~~2007~~ 2009 (~~EDT~~UTC)

: There isn't one on the wiki. There are plenty of HTML tutorials elsewhere, though. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''') 04:20, January 6, 2009 (UTC)

== ~~Timeline of Church History~~ Ah you're a quick one! ==~~Hello Father,~~Perhaps with the RC entries, I can see your point. However the ongoing persecution of the Ecumenical Patriarchate I think is important in terms of the history of the Church and should be definitely recorded. The new papal document may have bearing since in it it refers to Orthodox Churches as "sisters churches" but with "defects;" and since there is an ongoing dialogue at present, again this is a historical statement bearing on that relationship. In addition, these two news items I think were notable outward expressions of long present conditions and simmering tensions.

~~Cheers,Chris~~Not bad--you got rid of my talk post in just less than 24 hours.~~[[User:Angellight_888~~Not bad...my hat's off to you sir! You have a gift for wiki-editing!{{unsigned|~~Angellight_888]] 10:05am, July 16, 2007 (EDT)~~AmanUwellCant}}

: Inherently disruptive posts without any engagement regarding content are removed as a matter of form. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] (~~Don~~'~~t worry about not noticing earlier—you~~'~~ve got~~ '[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]'~~a lot~~'' ~~going on.~~) ~~Getting married is definitely one of the best decisions I've ever made~~ 01:56, ~~after joining the Church. We have the occasional squabble~~January 22, ~~of course, but it's well worth it.~~2009 (UTC)

~~How are~~ == Thank U for the work you ~~liking South Carolina, though? I'm sure getting used to your first parish is quite an experience. Hope all is well. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 20:49, August 12, 2007 (PDT)~~put in ==

I am not the site owner but I am sure that if awards could be given to the most hard-woring Users on Orthodoxwiki there would be three to give out:~~Aha! Well...~~ you ~~know... somewhere in that general mid-Atlantic area. I could have sworn I remembered something about SC—faulty memory~~, Wsk and ASDamick! I ~~guess. In any case, I'm glad it's going well.~~ wanted to pause at this point in my OrthodoxWiki career and acknowledge the efforts of those people who really do put a lot of time and effort into keeping OW alive and say Thank you for the work and time you put into making the articles rewarding!!! [[User:~~Gabriela~~Ixthis888|~~Gabriela~~Vasiliki]] 1903:2855, ~~August 13~~January 20, ~~2007~~ 2009 (~~PDT~~UTC)

== ~~Detailed Version~~ Antioch and the Armenians ==I have been to a canonical Antiochian church where they gave communion to Armenians . How do they do this ? [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 20:25, January 23, 2009 (UTC)

~~Your Blessings~~: Is it a sin to be ethnically Armenian? Anyway, I cannot answer for what is done in a particular parish. Why not talk to the pastor? —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''') 22:44, January 23, 2009 (UTC)

~~The section~~ As in ~~the Orthodoxy~~ Armenian Apostolic. And he said that they were in ~~the Philippines was deleted~~ communion with them, that's why I'm asking you because ~~the group is uncanonical and the person mentioned is~~ you said on your page that it's not ~~a clergical member of a canonical Orthodox Church.~~possible [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)

: The Armenian Apostolic church is not in communion with the Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch. This is how my and all the bishops of our Archdiocese consistently answer when questioned on the topic.

: Again, I cannot answer for what is done at a parish which is outside of my responsibility, especially when it is not clear that all the facts are apparent. (We have, for instance, Coptic Christians who commune at our parish, but that is because they are members of our parish, having been received into communion through confession of faith.) —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''') 00:52, January 24, 2009 (UTC)

== ~~Demetrios stub~~ Technical problem ==

~~Heh.~~ I ~~guess I was thinking more~~ am a new user and could not find the detailed information about how ~~many more "Demetrios" types there were still~~ to bring images from Wikimedia Commons to Orthodox Wiki. I would be ~~added rather than the fact that the disambiguation page looks rather full~~very grateful if you could help. —[[User:~~Magda|magda]] ([[User_talk:Magda~~Bag|~~talk~~Bag]]~~) 17~~21:5928, ~~January 31~~March 6, ~~2008~~ 2009 (~~PST~~UTC)

==~~Ss. abbrev.~~ Article titles ==

~~Thanks for~~ Hi, should I put the ~~correction. I should have looked~~ country name in the ~~abbreviations guide when~~ titles of my articles on churches (like Białystok, Poland)? They're already cathegorized as "Polish churches" so I ~~was wondering which~~ don't think it ~~was, but that was far too obvious for me to think of!~~ 's necessary. [[User:~~Gabriela~~Bag|~~Gabriela~~Bag]] 09:06~~:38~~, ~~February 6~~March 9, ~~2008~~ 2009 (~~PST~~UTC)

~~==She Who is Quick to Hear - Panagia Gorgoepikoos==~~

Hi, thanks for uploading your copyright image of the St Tikhon icon ... I dont know much about the history of your specific icon. Are you able to provide a link from within the Tikhon Monastery page linking to the article on the Quick to Hear icon ... I mean, the copy of the icon you guys have is SO beautiful it would be nice to have a bit of history of it even though its not the original. -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 19:24, February 12, 2008 (PST)

==~~Comments in Brackets~~Chrysostom ==HiHello again, ~~how do~~ I do looked at the St. John Chrysostom page, and thought that the St. John Chrysostom Oratorical Festival should be included. It would show that~~? How can~~ he has inspired children to orate the word of God to others, continuing in his footsteps. Since I ~~put 'editing' comments~~ have participated in the ~~bracks on~~ past and am in it again this year, I though it would be a good idea to mention it, and maybe put a link to the ~~Recently Changed list?~~ [[GOARCH]] website where they talk more about it and give more information. Tell me what you think! Thanks, -- [[User:~~Ixthis888~~Iliada|~~Vasiliki~~Iliada]] 18:2401, ~~February 18~~March 16, ~~2008~~ 2009 (~~PST~~UTC)

: I've responded to your comment at [[Talk:John Chrysostom]]. In the future, you may wish to keep your comments limited only to the specific article in question. Posting it in multiple places is not in itself likely to gain notice. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[~~User~~Special:~~Ixthis888~~Contributions/ASDamick|~~Vasiliki~~contribs]] ~~17:06~~(~~PST)#Bishop name thingy ...never gonna get this naming thing right ...you would think I would look at that Style Manual more than just once! --~~ '''[[User:~~Ixthis888~~ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|~~Vasiliki~~THINK!]] 18''') 01:0336, ~~February 21~~March 19, ~~2008~~ 2009 (~~PST~~UTC)

== ~~! ==it is important for me to tell you that the way you communicate is often offensive to me - if reading between the lines counts. I often wonder if you stop to consider that there is~~ Is WO a real person contributing to this site who might be sensitive to the fact that you only critise them .... the fact that this person has not been there from the beginning does not count unless they were a troublemaker (which I am not) and should not make them any less important to this site than those who have been here for a long time ... Did you not read the Parable live forum of ~~the Last Judgement on Sunday? Is this~~ information or is ~~this not an Orthodox site? I have put a lot of work into the little that I have done ... even if~~ it ~~is a 'peppering' ... seasoning is good, it often adds much flavour to food once the food has finished cooking ... perhaps my contributions are not massive VOLUMES~~ selective in ~~comparison to~~ the rest of you but for me they have been my whole heart. My contributions have been out of genuinous and a desire to inform the world of ... whatever the topic is that interests me from Orthodoxy - Church of Greece holds as much right to be developed as does the Church of America (which has volumes of articles with list after list). Show a little understanding before you use such comments as "dilute" as you are meant to be a person of example [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 19:35, March 6, 2008 (PST)information it displays? ==

~~: See my response on~~ This post refers to your ~~[[User talk:Ixthis888|talk~~ changes in the page~~]]. &mdash~~;[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''') 08:08, March 7, 2008 (PST)

~~== Multimedia Presentations ==~~St. George Free Serbian Orthodox Church (Forrest, Australian Capital Territory)

~~Greetings Father, Eulogeite~~I myself am not involved on the dispute and have no intention of support to either side in this tragedy.~~.. :)~~

When I originally viewed this page I was disheartened to observe the lack of information and that misleading information had been posted there. I understand that this most likely had ~~one suggestion,~~ been posted by a user and ~~one idea I wanted~~ as such is not subject to ~~ask you about~~your personal knowledge.

A) I ~~noticed on another different wiki website that they have sections on the top~~ conducted several days of ~~some of their articles (~~investigation and research in ~~a self contained box) for "MULTIMEDIA" -- see for example:~~ ~~http://www.theopedia.com/Interpretations_of_the_creation_accountJust wondering if we should be trying~~ order to update the page appropriately and even went to ~~include more~~ the extent of seeking the ~~same where we can here or if we can..~~authorisation to post the information from the Church and organisation, which they granted.

~~B) If so,~~ I ~~just heard the wonderful presentation by His Eminence Bishop Kallistos Ware, which he gve on Feb. 19th at Troy Michigan. There are 3 files for this public presentation in .mp3 format, here:~~ ~~http://www.orthodoxnews.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Features.one&content_id=16774&CFID=99884228&CFTOKEN=85504636and I am wondering what the permissions are for~~ find it offensive that you would label this ~~content (I havent looked into it yet), if we are allowed to use it on our [[Kallistos (Ware)~~ work as “Heavily Point of ~~Diokleia]] page~~View”.

~~What do~~ I fail to understand why you ~~think? Thought I~~ would ~~pass this on~~ allow false and ~~ask~~misleading information to remain posted.~~Cheers,~~ A young and inspired person chooses to update the page using only fact and ~~best wishes over Great Lent [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 14:14, March 7, 2008 (PST)~~you would rather support outdated and misinformed material.

~~==[[Talk:John (Zizioulas) of Pergamon]]==Thanks for weighing in on~~ The general community that observed this ~~talk~~ page ~~(and for the character reference) - it seems like some very dire mountains are being made out of not very dire molehills..~~in its renewed form offered significant positive feedback. — by [[User:Pistevo|Pιsτévο]] ''[[User talk:Pistevo|talk]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|complaints]]'' at 13:37, March 14, 2008 (PDT)

~~== Template categorization ==~~I will stand corrected if you can show me grounds for your dismissal of my updates to this page? I can provide you with factual record and account of all the information I had posted on that page and request that it be allowed to remain.

~~'''Help please''' I've been categorizing templates~~If persons should see fit to add to that information, ~~but [[Template:Defaultcopy]] is protected.~~ I ~~suggest that you add <nowiki><noinclude>[[Category:OrthodoxWiki Templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude></nowiki>~~ implore them to itdo so. ~~Thanks. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 07:14, April 9, 2008 (UTC)~~

Otherwise I~~'ve noticed some problems with~~ believe that the spacing in some of these, but adjusting the line breaks in the templates doesn't seem to do much. [[Template:Lang-el]] is a [http://en.orthodoxwiki.org/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Lang-el good example] of what page should be removed as it displays false and misleading information and if you should require I~~'m talking about. In [[Iconography]], for example, there's either a space afterwards, on~~ can have this formally requested from the ~~same line, or there's a line break (somewhere), forcing the remainder of the sentence on a new line~~ community and association which ~~begins with a space. ([[Template:Lang-el]] also uses [[Template:Langwithname]], which I've also tried adjusting. Maybe there are more variables than I've taken into account~~this information refers to?~~) —[[User:Magda|magda]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 20:55, April 10, 2008 (UTC)~~

~~==Wiki Breaks==~~I ~~dont know what~~ can understand your removal of the Postal address and agree fairly to ~~say ..~~the emission of such information. ~~you tell me it is not personal yet~~ All I ~~am tagged, on this public forum, as lacking in "Academic English" (that~~ ask is ~~personal and really unnecessary since I already know that I lack being a perfect literary genius and its obvious but I am not hopeless) but~~ be fair in ~~all of this humiliation I still make a valid point that not all of the articles I contribute are THAT BAD! So, if a degrading 'clean up' tag is added just let me know what I need to do~~ relation to ~~improve~~ the ~~article, dont just black ban it - I wouldnt know what part~~ content of the ~~article needs to be fixed. Signed, the LESS INTELLIGENT 'user' of your group. {{unsigned|Ixthis888}}~~post?

: I~~'ve replied on your talk~~ am willing to build and develop the page. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''') 00:25, April 11, 2008 (UTC)if you can suggest some points that would make the information less “Point of View”?

::I dont mean to come across as "adversarial" or "antagonised", I certainly dont see you or anyone as an enemy or as antagonists. "Apla me epiase to parapono" because I really spent '''a LOT of time''' putting the disambiguation pages together. real, honest hard work and it took so much time to find out what the names mean, and then find all the saints who are celebrated by the church and then put them into an order and also, I thought, kept within the style of the other disambiguation pages, did all that research, cross-checked against existing OW styles: '''and I STILL GOT IT WRONG!''' I hope u can see my point and perhaps leave it that? ... So we established how bad I am at expressing myself? So I want to establish that even in these simple 'parapona' my 'tone' isnt reflected well because of the fact I cant write!!!! I am not a person who wears a 'grumpy person hat' and I get frustrated that i cant express myself without offending someone ... Young Serb

:[[User:SoYoung_Serb|Young Serb]], I suspect that the conclusion of the original article (which was ''very'' POV) may have taken from the facts that were in play. In response to [[User:ASDamick|Fr Andrew]]'s request, I have taken the liberty of bringing the two together.:Please consider that, as a parish, the subject matter was dubiously noteworthy enough to place on OrthodoxWiki; as a parish that has now placed itself outside the Church, more so. This doesn't excuse incorrect information, of course; but if you consider that details are sparse, this may have been done for a reason - this is, conceptually, an ~~apology all I can say~~ encyclopaedia, and is ~~that~~ therefore rather lacking in emotive speech and in ~~expressing myself I dont~~minutiae. However, should you find the article to still be misleading, please correct it. — by [[User:Pistevo|Pιsτévο]] ''[[User talk:Pistevo|talk]]'' ''[[Usertalk:~~Ixthis888~~Pistevo/dev/null|~~Vasiliki~~complaints]] 01'' at 13:3537, April 1124, ~~2008~~ 2009 (UTC)

~~==Easter Greetings==~~

~~Hi Fr. Andrew, just wanted to wish you warm Easter greetings. All the best for a happy Easter and a wonderful Resurrection, CHRIST IS RISEN, GLORIFY HIM!~~

~~Cheers. Chris. [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 05:14, April 25, 2008 (UTC)~~

== ~~Blocking~~ Azarias? ==Χριστος ανεστη! This has nothing to do with Orthodox Wikipedia, but when I read the 3 youths passage on Holy Saturday, I noticed that Azarias is not one of the original three youths. there's Meeshak, Shadrack, and Abendago. Those three are describes throughout the whole reading, but then it says that Azarias said something. Who is Azarias? Thanks, --[[User:Iliada|Iliada]] 17:29, April 24, 2009 (UTC)

~~I dont envy~~ : Shadrac, Meshach, and Abednago are the ~~amount~~ Babylonian names of ~~time wasted having to undo all of their vandalism~~the Hebrew Hananiah (Ananias), Azariah (Azarias) and Mishael (Misael). ~~Its a shame~~ —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color=" when people do not understand to respect other people's property or points of view. We had a crazy guy at the church two years ago and he was obsessed with harassing me and another lady Susan ... it took Geronta Damaskinos 2 seconds to look at him last year and we have never seen that guy again (He was claiming he was a time traveller and that he was sent by the past into the future from the head of the Angels to fight red"~~those~~>talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:~~Ixthis888~~ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|~~Vasiliki~~THINK!]] 22''') 23:4114, April 2925, ~~2008~~ 2009 (UTC)

== With the feast! ==

~~==Proper conduct==~~Today already Pentecost is, but at you on the Main page still congratulations with Ascention.

~~Please talk~~ ==Proposed New Page?==Greetings Father. :) I wanted to ask your opinion about a new page I was thinking of adding. While researching some old books and resources for some of my articles, I found a number of puzzling abbreviations besides authors names, who were mostly Roman Catholic authors or scholars or from religious orders. Anyways, I found this list here: [http://www.fisheaters.com/religiousorderabbreviations.html Abbreviations of Religious Orders and Priestly Fraternitiies], and was thinking it would be a good reference page to ~~the other contributors before reverting their contributions~~add here, cataloged in a Roman catholic category perhaps. Just an idea, this info would help eliminate guesswork when going over historical documents. Cheers, [[User:~~Cebactokpatop~~Angellight 888|~~Cebactokpatop~~Angellight 888]] 1823:0859, ~~April 30~~July 8, ~~2008~~ 2009 (UTC)

My only agenda is the truth. Facts I added to the article are easily verifyable. If this website has an agenda of hiding the truth, it should state it clearly. Despotism you expressed when talking about your right to revert anything your ears are itching about, is blasphemous behavior that does not go hand in hand with the "fr" you are putting before your name. Sooner you realize it, sooner you would start to look like real "Fr". [[User:Cebactokpatop|Cebactokpatop]] 18:26, April 30, 2008 (UTC)== Request for speedy deletion ==

Delete please this error redirect [http://ru.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD&redirect= ~~Orthodox Source ==~~no] as recently created redirect page resulting from a typographical error. --[[User:Imerek|Imerek]] 22:04, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Father, I know that the article should be in Orthodox Source but like I mentioned before (a few months ago) I can not create an account on this site. I sent an email but have not heard back from anyone to say that the problem ==What is fixed. Otherwise, I would move that article to Orthodox Source since it is quite old and its nice and its been circulated in paper copy a trillion times. I still think its a valid link to the Pentecost article since it is a story showing how Christ 'relieves' the souls of the dead during Pentecost. I wish I knew the source/origins of this article. I am pretty sure its an Apocrypha book but I cant validate that because I dont have scholastic links. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 00:47, May 3, 2008 (UTC)Orthodoxwiki?==

~~== URGENT - Problem with~~ I noticed you deleted (rather speedily) the ~~Editing Tab ==~~Luther page I imported. I'm wondering if Orthodoxwiki is "Articles on topics directly pertaining to Orthodoxy" or "Articles giving Orthodox views on all topics." {{unsigned|CircularReason}}

~~Hello~~: See: [[OrthodoxWiki:Style_Manual#Types_of_Articles]]. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] <font face="~~EDIT~~Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman" it asks me to save a file to my computer but then I cant actually edit. The only form of editing I CAN do is Sub-section editing ...is there a problem with Orthodox Wiki that requires fixing!! I have used three different computers to see if the problem was local to my computer but it appears to be linked to my account not to the computer. >('''[[User:~~Ixthis888~~ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|~~Vasiliki~~THINK!]] 04''') 19:44, June 19, ~~May 3, 2008~~ 2010 (UTC)

== ~~Image Copyrights in "[[Coptic Orthodox Church in Canada]]"~~ New Template==Hello Fr Andrew, warm greetings :)

~~Sorry about~~ I had an idea to create a new template for [[User_talk:Angellight_888#New_Template|Orthodox Church and Roman Catholic Church history]], where the ~~delay~~various ''shared or related'' historical themes, subjects and articles of both churches could be grouped together neatly in one pathfinder / template. I ~~should bring~~ have come to realize that it is quite a daunting task, and I was hoping I could ask for your opinion on what I have worked out so far (see this [[~~Image talk~~User_talk:~~Canadian Coptic Center.jpg~~Angellight_888#New_Template|~~this~~link]] , on my talk-page). Many of the words or headings I have titled may need to be changed, and the focus tightened... I have used the word "history" rather than "relations" in the title, because it seems more appropriate and allows for the inclusion of links to ~~your attention~~relevant articles. I thought it would go nicely at the bottom of the [[Timeline of Orthodox Church and Roman Catholic relations]] article; including such templates as you know is a successful pattern over at Wikipedia, and this particular timeline is one place on OW where I think it would be useful, and allow for the elimination of "see also" links, and some "external links" at the same time. ~~Thanks~~ Whenever you may have time for ~~everything~~a look it would be much appreciated, and feel free to go ahead and edit/change/correct/remove or add if you want to; I saved it on my talk page so I can work on it there until it is ready if we decide to keep it. Cheers and thanks, [[User:~~Troy99~~Angellight 888|~~~ Troy~~Angellight 888]] 0200:1325, ~~May 7~~October 3, ~~2008~~ 2010 (UTC)

== ~~Policy~~ Delete my account==This wiki isn't for me, it does not and cannot build from any other source, unless it falls explicitly within the orthodox source material specifically. I just want to create articles based on Biblical topics and elaborate on them based on scholarship in all areas, not just Orthodoxy. Perhaps Theopedia would suit me better.--[[User:Tsommer|Tony]] 18:59, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

~~I dont appreciate that every time I have a thought or a comment you immediately go off to an OW~~ : Done. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr... it almost feels like you are '''muscling''' me into feeling like somehow I have done something wrong and you are putting me in a naughty corner. I take OW seriously and I am aware of your OW policies but that doesnt make them right ... what you portray as 'journalism' I know for a fact people are using as the '''official informationAndrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs</~~position~~font>]] (''' of the church which sometimes may not actually be the formal position of the church on the matter and this concerns me because it just does ... I believe we have a duty of care to represent the churches formal position especially on serious political matters and not imply too much neutrality to be seen as ''English or Western friendly''. This last comment has no bearing on the title of the other article ... a separate issue in itself. Take care :-) [[User:~~Ixthis888~~ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|~~Vasiliki~~THINK!]] 02''') 23:1654, May 2030, ~~2008~~ 2011 (UTC)

~~: See my response on your Talk page. —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''') 13:02, May 20, 2008 (UTC)~~

After seeing that you addressed the medication spam pages I ~~have read your response and as soon as~~ reported, I ~~read some of your bullet points, my feelings WHERE hurt~~ followed the link and saw with pleasure that you are the same Fr. Andrew I ~~had tears down my face by some of these comments~~'ve run into elsewhere.

~~1. I dont find you heretical, please dont go insinuating or thinking it.~~ Cheers!

2. I am not frustrated. I just want to contribute like everyone else but oil and water dont mix so it appears also that the '''stupid''' can not mix with the '''smart''' - it doesnt work on OW! You should put a policy together that bans us altogether that is how it feels ....A pleasure,[[User:JonathansCornerCom|JonathansCornerCom]] 22:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

~~3. I know what an Encyclopedia is~~==Directory==Hi Fr Andrew, ~~yet~~ I ~~want~~ 'm looking for responses for my proposal (to ~~point out that many Encyclopedia~~delete the parish directory pages for Australia) on http://orthodoxwiki.org/OrthodoxWiki:Administrators#Eliminating_directory_articles - your thoughts? — by [[User:Pistevo|Pιsτévο]] ''[[User talk:Pistevo|talk]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|complaints]]'~~s adopt terminology that this site is all too quick to dismiss!~~' at 19:16, January 31, 2013 (HST)

4. "I really just don't understand how you can want to edit on OrthodoxWiki" is not a fair comment to make because none of my articles are complex or political, they are usually about linking dioceses together or about some saint connected with those dioceses. Is it not obvious why I want to contribute to OW from all these articles I have done to now? Have you ever seen be put together any articles discussing issues?== Question ==

You all have the gift of being eloquent in the english language - bravo! I am not useless and if my responses seem somewhat 'rhetoric' they are not supposed to be - they are simply the only way I know how to communicate (oh yeah - like Can you ~~remind~~ please tell me ~~all the time, I CANT). In my mind, I am holding a discussion ... in your minds, I think that~~ how you ~~think I am trying~~ managed to ~~push some sort of argument to the rest of OW. Im not ... question is~~built this wonderful wiki? [[User:Receptie123|Receptie123]] 19:55, July 18, ~~would you be so bold to say these things in my face if you knew me personally? I dont think so because you appear to be a nice person bc you stick smiley faces at the end of your paragraphs .. LOL~~2013 (HST)

~~I believe I have been contributing harmlessly to this site and I believe I have been adding worthwhile information and I dont like feeling~~ : It wasn't me! :) —[[User:ASDamick|Fr. ~~That hurts my feelings because for 90% of my contributions they are OK -~~ Andrew]] [[User_talk:ASDamick|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|contribs]] ('''[[User:~~Ixthis888~~ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|~~Vasiliki~~THINK!]] ''') 03:50, ~~May 21~~August 6, ~~2008~~ 2013 (~~UTC~~HST)

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