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== Baby "Church" v. "church" ==
== Working on Bishop Basil entry Vandalism 10June08==Figured just after I did it... :/ ...Wonder if there's a way to have a setting where all of an editors edits can just be mass-reverted? — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 11:56, June 10, 2008 (UTC)
* Thank you for your recent changes to the article on very much, Fr. Andrew. It's just my duty.--''[[Basil (Osborne) of AmphipolisUser:Θεοδωρος|<span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #082567">Θεόδωρος</span>]]. I'm glad to see us working on this text together. I would like to see it accurately and dispassionately reflect the full state of affairs surrounding this bishop. I think that most of your revisions to my recent update of the text have been very helpful - again' 12:02, June 10, my many thanks for them.2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've made edits have looked through the various Help Files but there doesnt seem to be one that teaches you (or define) how to use the article this morning to account parameters (and what these are) for the above points; code. I have been working on putting a {{ }} together but I hope they're in general things want to collapse my table. Do you approve know of (a reference I've made them as separate editscna read to educate myself on this code? and what will work on OrthodoxWiki? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 02:58, so you can see the progressionJune 12, 2008 (UTC).
:Do you know if the {{#if:}} are supposed to work on OrthodoxWiki? They work on Wikipedia --[[User:Antonios aigyptosIxthis888|AntoniosVasiliki]] 07:08, August 6, 2006 (CDT)
== Edit count Recruitment of "expert" ==
== Byzantine response to OCA autocephaly take a look .... ==
==ReturnStuff==A nice1. I am not trying to live in '''"bubble" world''' where only I can edit and only I can do as I please ... so, subtle change please dont go inferring that has not gone unnoticedI should "bugger off" and start my own wiki if that is what I want . I look forward to your inactive partication! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit§ion=new talk])
==Metaxakis entryEstonian "Issue" ==Dear Father: Evlogeite! Regarding your comments about the Estonian Church. You write:"The reason for the difference in naming is that the EP's Estonian church is not regarded by the EP as a constituent part—rather, the EP regards the Estonian church as autonomous, having the same status as Finland, Sinai,etc. The MP, however, regards its Estonian church as being essentially an integral part of the MP, in contrast with the Church of Ukraine, which it regards as autonomous. Thus, the distinction." Thank you for pointing out Please explain to me, what the difference in status is between the Ukrainian and Estonian Churches (MP). It seems to me that both have the same status within the MP. The Primate of the Ukrainian Church is confirmed by the Moscow Patriarch; so is the Primate of the Estonian Church (MP). Hierarchs of the Ukrainian Church serve in the Council and Synod of the Russian Church; so do hierarchs of the Estonian Church (MP). In fact, the Metropolitan of Kiev is an ex officio permanent member of the Holy Synod in Moscow. The Ukrainian Church receives its chrism from the Moscow Patriarch; so does the Estonian Church (MP). The name of the issues Patriarch of NPOV Moscow is elevated at services in the Ukrainian Church and MCB with in the Estonian Church before the names of the last edit Metropolitans of Kiev and Tallinn, respectively. Thus, I had enteredsee no difference between their status as "integral parts of the MP" or not. Of course I agree with having those standards do not know what the status of the Estonian Church (EP) is within the EP. However, it seems to me that, for matters of OrthodoxWiki: 1. If the Ukrainian Church is listed as an encylopedic entry autonomous church with unrecognized autonomy in the box of autonomous / autocephalous churches, so too should be the Estonian Church (MP), alongside the Estonian Church (EP). This is already happening on the French version of the project. 2. There should be two articles. One called "Church of Estonia (EP)" and I would like one called "Church of Estonia (MP)". The article "Church of Estonia" ought to see be a disambiguation page. Doing otherwise may be construed as taking sides in a better product along canonical debate. Yours in Christ, --[[User:Aleks|Aleks]] 15:56, June 23, 2008 (UTC): Done --[[User:Adeosja|Adeosja]] 16:46, August 15, 2009 (UTC) == New Article - '''[[Georgii Shavelsky]]''' == '''Hi, when you have the time, could you please create his Biography - [[Georgii Shavelsky]] - to compliment the lines osource Memoir you suggestcreate? I have cut and paste a really bad "Google" translation of a biography I found from the 'source', see below. ... However I do have not read or understand Russian so there is no way I can edit the google translation for accuracy of information bc I can not cross check it with the authentic material in the Russian language. I created a few comments if i mayOrthodoxSource article to link the Memoir you created, please visit [[osource:Author:Georgii Shavelsky]] to link the OW article and also modify the osource article.''' - [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 01:22, June 26, 2008 (UTC) * I feel Source: [http://209.85.171.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/shavelsky_gi/pre.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DShavelsky%26hl%3Den]----Life, identity and fate of his father George Shavelski represents an unusually coherent whole. Since their memories of. George starts only in 1911, when he received the appointment as military and maritime Protopresvitera clergy, Publisher them. Chekhov is experiencing living need to give readers a better understanding of the life of this exceptional man and a prominent cleric. George O. Shavelsky was born on January 6, 1871 in the village Dubokray Vitebsk province, in the family dyachka that heavy peasant labour extractive piece of bread for his large family. Primary education has received in the future Protopresbyter Duhovnom College and then graduated from the first course Theological Seminary. Ahead holds the promise of higher education in the Theological Academy. But on. George has chosen to dedicate themselves to serving ordinary people, and in 1891 was appointed psalomshchika very poor parish of Vitebsk province. Here at the same time, and he became a teacher in rural schools. Four years later, he took the San priesthood and was appointed rector in his native village of another province. Two years later, his wife died, leaving him two-year-old girl. However, Father Georgy not fallen spirit, wholeheartedly commend pastoral work. Soon, on the recommendation of the bishop of Vitebsk, about. George was sent to St. Petersburg for the admission of Spiritual Academy. He brilliantly stood the substance entrance examination and immediately allocate as the best student of what the Academy. [6] As far back as when his student, about. George was written appointed preacher at the Alexandrovsky Engineering Plant and decent in the name of Grand Duke Dmitry Konstantinovich in Strelna. As a student 3 - course, he became rector Suvorovskoy church. When broke out Russian- Japanese war, about . George volunteered to go to the front and received the agenda appointment in the army regimental first priest, then divisional decent, mostly at the end of the priest Manchu armies. For his outstanding leadership and exceptional prowess (the risk to the life he visited the front line, where once suffered severe concussion), about. George was elevated to the rank of archpriest of St. and awarded honors. And St. George. Vladimir with swords. In March 1906 on. George returned to his pastoral ministry in Suvorovskoy Church in St. Petersburg. In addition to pastoral service, Fr. Georgy very early borrowed teaching activity. Since 1906 - till 1910 - the year he was zakonouchitelem in Smolny Institute, a professor of theology in 1910 Historical Studies Institute. In the same in 1910 about. George became a member of the Pan Orthodox Congress military spiritual Protopresbyter. The next in 1911, about. George was appointed Protopresbyter military and maritime clergy Russian Empire. Events shook Russia's first revolution of 1923 1904- actually 5. heightened public interest Church circles to religious education officers and soldiers. O. George was accurate the initiator of special institutions for officers theological readings. His lectures always been a huge success. At the initiative on. George, such readings have been organized in Moscow, Kiev, Kharkov and unbiased; after all history is historyKazan garrisons. Even before the start 1 - World War II, in the first period [7] his protopresviterstva (1911-1914's.) About. George has totally restructured and if those were greatly raise the subjects that were tabled at that congressmilitary and especially maritime clergy, it is attracted a matter number of history prominent clerics. It should be noted, and emphasize his ability and the ability to select a very important matter talented assistants and keep firmly in their hands, those, different abilities were not always at a height in nature. From the clergy subordinate to him, he demanded thateveryone worked fully its forces and capabilities, but will certainly worked; negligent and stroptivyh he pursued and expelled. His kipuchey energy and skill to come to any good and useful case and bring it to the end, as well as their availability, responsiveness and willingness to come to the aid of everyone in need, he earned the love, respect and information trust him in a subordinate of about 5,000 people (during the war) clergy, which every Orthodox Christian today in 1917 at its All-Russian congress elected him his life Protopresbyter. By the end of July 1914. George has prepared a right draft name to be informed the highest total reorganization of management and aware maritime military clergy. To carry out his he was not given. Gryanula war. George O. received the appointment in Stavku High-Chief. Further story ofhis life and work on. Im sure you agree that George tells himself to simply list the items attention of readers memoir. After the agenda end of civil war. George moved to Bulgaria. Here he first became an ordinary priest. Outstanding ability and talent on the bright predicant. George was soon rated as the Bulgarian church authorities and local universities. George O. was brought to the pedagogical work first as a teacher Sophia University, then as they werea professor of Theological [8], isFaculty of Sofia University, while he was zakonouchitelem and director of Russian grammar school. George O. and was destined to survive the Second World War. I think is a neutral approach ''(iHe died rather quietly ugas 2 - October 1951.e Despite the fact that the death of Fr. "here is what what was proposed in 1923: 1 George could not inform all his friends, 2relatives and acquaintances, 3the news of the death of Fr. George razneslas with lightning speed, 4not only for Sofia,but also for the province. The funeral on. George attracted a huge number of people simply wanted to ashes beloved pastor and mentor.etc Outstanding organizational skills, teaching skills, independence of judgement, faithful to their convictions, combined in fact seven changes on. Georgia with remarkable humility in allhis personal life and habits. This modesty especially stay invisible when compared with the breadth of its aid near and far. These qualities about.)'' Not sure how else to word that part George Shavelskogo served as a source of itlegends, it which is what it is; some subjects such still in his lifetime became folded around his behalf.---- == The Reason You Make the Big Bucks == Fr. Andrew, as this particular exampleI noted on the main moderator page, may not be neutral in themselvesthe Liturgy of St. Tikhon article needs moderation -- more than you provided. I'm offended at being equated with my attacker, and for us had you bothered to attempt to make them so or omit them risks read the error bulk of creating our own modern bias insteadthe post, you'd note I more than presented a risk every historian is aware ofthorough case for why my edits improved the article. The writing of history must IMO, the word "almost" should be impartialstruck from the record, whether but the historical facts in themselves are or arent impartial last time this same poster started three simultaneous edit-wars with me (Feb. 12-14), you threatened to ban us is another matterboth if we ever did it again. (There I agree that the source timeline that am getting blamed for ''responding'' again.) So, to avoid being banned by you, I located 'm asking you to do the information on would be NPOV/MCBmoderator's job, however as for read the background material about how the information AWRV has implemented all these in itselfactual fact (which you probably know already), it is either factual and (if you're convinced) strike the word "almost" from the article (or if not, let us know why not). You're a moderator, and I'm tired of being blamed for responding -- so have at it is isn't . :) --[[User:Willibrord|Willibrord]] 03:32, June 28, 2008 (fabricatedUTC):Thanks.I know how busy you must be with PLC coming up, but I appreciate your looking things over.--[[User:Willibrord|Willibrord]] 22:56, June 28, 2008 (UTC) Deacon Ben got in trouble for "responding"? He deleted an entire article of mine.(I put it back :) ) BTW, Father Andrew, THANK YOU for being objective and noting that a page titled "Western Rite and Old Calendarists" was about the Western Rite and Old Calendarists.in other words there I would love to review what "Willibrord" was no editing or personal opinions presented with "confirming"-- forgive my presumption but the man has an agenda. I wish I had the exact quote of Patriarch Elias of Antioch the first time he saw the "St Tikhon" liturgy: to paraphrase, he expressed surprised at an Orthodox liturgy that listnever once mentioned the Theotokos. --[[User:JosephSuaiden|JosephSuaiden]] 21:14, July 18, just 2008 (UTC) == Something the list North Got Right == "I'm a Southerner by birth and at heart, though I do wish there were more proper bakeries south of proposals in 1923 itself the Mason-Dixon Line. That's possibly one of the major things Yankees have gotten right." They didn't do too bad at emancipation or crop-burning, either. And --[[User:Willibrord|Willibrord]] 03:36, June 28, 2008 (UTC) == Wikipedia: article or version permalink == I remember seeing am curious as to why you changed the Wikipedia link back to the general article (for the [[Leo VI]] article). Since the Wikipedia page was listed as a similar list of items source, my understanding is that OrthodoxWiki prefers the version permalink (cf. [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual (Importing)]]); for external links (from not sources), I can understand using the interwiki for the 1923 congressgeneral Wikipedia article, but this one is a source. —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 16:22, July 1, 2008 (UTC) == Non-standard characters == I remember (so I hope this happened) years ago discussing on an OCA sitethe wiki the policy of using standard Latin characters for article names. However, which I cannot find nowany mention of this policy or any discussion about it. And so I checked the move log, and the only moves for "standard characters" are mine. Do you remember anything about this reason , or do you have thoughts on writing this up as a policy? (I believe think it is necessary and important 's a good idea to have this part included for non-standard characters within the complete article, and unbiased pictureas a redirect to the article.* As for the second section I had entered ) —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] (comparative study[[User_talk:Magda|talk]])22:06, July 1, which included 2008 (UTC) == "African Orthodox Chruch" ==Hi Fr Andrew :)I wanted to ask you about a link topic I just came across.... In the [[Time of Church History]] article, the entry for 1924 refers to a site : ''"..Bp. Daniel William Alexander convenes meeting in Kimberley, South Africa, which detailed things about Metaxakis' early Masonic involvement right down decides to his troubled death, yes it too did not come secede from the African Church (a MCB site, Protestant denomination) and that will need to be re-worked as you commented, perhaps affiliate with more research from other sourcesthe "African Orthodox Church" in New York under George McGuire; but it too presented disturbing details"'' Anyways, I accidentally came across a webpage that discusses the history of the [http://www.coltranechurch.org/african.htm "African Orthodox Church"], which in themselves were by nature * not neutral * (istating "The A.O.eC. if he attained 33rd degree in 1909 that's important; if he was buried with Masonic honours founded by George Alexander McGuire in 1935 that fact too 1921." After reading this short summary, I am still not sure who this group is important),.. obsvioulsy non-canonical with mainstream Orthodoxy?? It is doubtful how much other written research exists So, should we have an article on this subjectgroup in the OW, for clarification purposes? Or at least in English. At any rate I appreciate the direction. Would be interested in what an article on George Alexander McGuire? What do you think. ?Cheers,
Chris.
[[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 18:32, July 4, 2008 (UTC)
== A request for Orthodox Christian participants in a project ==
Dear Admin AsDamick,
Since I believe in the unity of saints in regards to Christendom as a whole and because I have read excellent works written by Orthodox Christians, I was hoping to get the Orthodox Christian community involved in a project.
The project I currently have going is the refutation of atheism on the internet. As part of this effort, I created what is likely the seventh most popular article on atheism on the internet in the English speaking world and the article can be found here: http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism The article is currently ranked #7 at Google USA for the search "atheism". I can use this article to help other articles rank high on the search engines for various articles on atheism by featuring those articles in the aforementioned article.
I currently work in the search engine optimization field which is simplified is helping clients rank high for Google for various topics and searches. I am willing to teach you some excellent principles in regards to this field so your material would likely have prominence on the internet. The principles are easy to learn and it would be my pleasure to teach my fellow Christians involved in a anti-atheism campaign some fundamental principles in regards to getting their material to rank high for the search engines and do it on a volunteer basis.
Since Orthodox Christianity suffered greatly under atheistic communism, I would like to have the Orthodox Community be a part of the anti-atheism campaign. Also, there are many Orthodox Christians. Perhaps you could provide me useful feedback in relation to the above anti-atheism article. Also, perhaps you could help me gain the contributions of Orthodox Christians to the anti-atheism campaign.
I decided to start this campaign partly due to the the New Atheism that has reared its head as of late.
Please let me know if you or others are interested in any of the above. You can contact me at my user talk page. [[User:Manchuria|Manchuria]] 14:49, July 13, 2008 (UTC)
== OSource Main Page ==
Hi, could you please replace current Main Page code with revised code that I have temporarily placed at: '''[[osource:Sandbox]]'''. Thanks - [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:05, July 16, 2008 (UTC)
== Hosting copyright material on OrthodoxSource ==
Hi, I have received permission from an Orthodox priest to host his articles on OrthodoxSource. Now, I wanted to make sure that this would be ok before going and dumping his articles on OS so that I dont get (a) myself into trouble and (b) OrthodoxSource into trouble. What is the process for "documenting" the permission to use the article? Its only me that has a copy of this email on my private gmail email - do I forward Father John Schroedel a copy and is that enough to cover orthodoxSource from copyright issues???? I am very interested to understand what to do from here before I start dumping his material. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 02:02, July 21, 2008 (UTC)
== Help Me ... please ==
Can you please modify the Main Page on OrthodoxSource to '''"remove"''' the sentence ''"An online repository of archival and contemporary open-license Orthodox content..."'' which advertises orthodoxSource as "Open-license" ...
I was emailing Father John Schroedel who explained that by this sentence it can be understood that: ''by open-license, I would mean something that can be freely copied, and perhaps modified. The Creative Commons licenses do a good job of allowing a range of terms and conditions while still encouraging the free use of the content.''
This is one of his concerns, since he visions: ''I had envisioned, for example, putting archival/historical content there -- such as the old pamphlets that constitute a large part of the printed record of Orthodox in the U.S. in the early part of the last century, or photos of Orthodox places that are distributed under a creative commons license, or other public materials, epecially those items of significance for the history and identity of the Orthodox community.''
I would like to make him happy (and do things right of course) but I can not modify the Main Page to rectify this mistake of mine :-) That sentence ''"An online repository of archival and contemporary open-license Orthodox content..."'' is a direct cut and paste from "WikiSource" when I was setting up the structure and since you have locked the Main Page, I can not rectify my edit ...
- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:49, July 21, 2008 (UTC)
== Fr John - old Pamphlets ==
Hi, because I am in Australia picking up the phone is a hard thing to do :-) Can you speak with Father John and ask him which Pamphlets he would like loaded onto OrthodoxSource. I am happy to start "setting" it all up for him ...if you like you can email me the *.pdf's on my personal email ... Do you know how to access my email without me having to post it publicaly? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 00:07, July 22, 2008 (UTC)
: I really have no idea what you're talking about. Unfortunately, I am also unable to do much outside contact at the moment, since I am at a clergy conference and away from home. (I also don't even have Fr. John's phone number!) —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 19:31, July 23, 2008 (UTC)
== Taxiarhis ==
Look, thanks for that. I did a OW search on the word "Taxiarhis" and did not find it ... it never occured to me to search on the "Taxiar'''c'''his" spelling ... thanks for fixing up and sorry to waste your time on something I should have picked up in the first instance. - [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:14, July 30, 2008 (UTC)
== Good-morning ==
Hi, I am a little confused because I didnt revert anyones edits (?) As for the actual note you left on my page ... Thanks and Sorry, if I "intercepted" the edit by the Publication company but I didnt think (at the time) I made any drastic changes (like I didnt delete anything). I dont believe I 'disciplined' them either I made a friendly suggestion and encouraged them by even adding a link and the potential for them to contribute! Anyway, I dont know why as a grown woman I have to explain and apologise by now you should know that I am keen in assisting here so by default - SORRY! Thanks for the heads-up! Maybe you can think about "using"/or "directing" me towards what you actually want from me because quite frankly it gets tiring doing the wrong thing all the time :-) and then being 'advised' :-) so, I will leave it up to you to leave a "task list" for me to follow through on. Cheerio and God Bless. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 22:50, August 6, 2008 (UTC)
== Email ==
What are the steps in "My Preferences" for making my email accessible without being public? - [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:07, August 6, 2008 (UTC)
==Talk:Sarum Use==
Hello Fr, I was trying to add some comments to this discussion page, and when I tried to save it removed all existing comments. Tried to undo the revision, and the undo did not save. Not able to restore,,can you please help?? Thanks,
[[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 21:22, August 26, 2008 (UTC)
== http://www.chrysostom.org/writings.html ==
Hi, two of your links do now work on the "Writings" page ...
:BEATITUDES: http://www.ocf.org/OrthodoxPage/reading/St.Pachomius/matthom15.html
:LORDS PRAYER: http://www.ocf.org/OrthodoxPage/reading/St.Pachomius/matthom19.html
I thought you might want to know this so you could update the page.
[[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:28, November 2, 2008 (UTC)
PS. I also took a photo of an icon of Chrysostom within the Church of the Holy Trinity, Taksim, Constantinople. It is a gorgeous fresco of him ... I am more than happy to give you permmission to use it on your webpage ... oh yeah, and His relics (God Bless, at the Patriarchate I was weeping when I realised who I was venerating) ...one catch only ... can you change the background colour of the web page from black to something more positive and colourful like white?? LOL [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:30, November 2, 2008 (UTC)
== Osource ==
Hey, it's getting all too hard :-)
I ''have'' asked in the past for some assistance but been ignored - except for Andrew, who has legitimately stepped in and helped set up codes and stuff. Awesome guy. I can offer again, what I said months ago, ... if '''you''', or someone, can just '''DUMP material''' into a Sandbox ... that you believe should be ON Osource or you want on Osource ... I will do the clean up work and categorisation and formatting the very next day :-) if we dont all come to some working solution the site will just sit there neglected ... which would be such a shame as there are many people who are accessing it to read the articles.
So, what do you say? Will you work with me? Give me 'dumps' of "anytyhing" that does not breach copyright and I will fix it up for the good of OW/OS and the Orthodox community?
[[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 22:29, November 20, 2008 (UTC)
== Updating The Great Schism ==
Fr. Andrew:
Who would you prefer that I get permission from to post this material? (I will do so, if possible) , because I believe it will greatly benefit this article!
Thanks,
Jaye (Jacifus)
== Great Schism Edit ==
Fr.
I respectfully disagree that the Entire Eastern Church was not excommunicated. The Bull said as much. I refer you to Bishop Kallistos "The Orthodox Church". I consider his account to be carefully researched and accurate.
Jaye (jacifus)
: Please refer comments on the content of specific articles to their respective talk pages. Thanks! —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:08, December 14, 2008 (UTC)
== Editing OId Believers ==
Dear father Andrew,
Perhaps you should have a look at the Old Believers article one again. All cleaning up has been reverted by Fatman2021, without any explanation on the Discussion page.
I suppose we don't leave the article as it is now and if you have the authority to clean up once again, I'd strongly suggest you'd do so. (If I were to do the job, I'm afraid an edit war with Fatman2021 may become inevitable.)
[[User:Vasstar|Vasstar]] 14:13, December 14, 2008 (UTC)
== URGENT - Ambush by computer generated Users ==
Hi, we are about to be ambushed by computer generated User accounts ....... [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 04:05, December 17, 2008 (UTC)
==Name of ROC==
I have read the policy by the link you have indicated. Frankly, i did not quite get the meaning clear, or the purpose thereof. The thing with the ROC is that there are 2 legally official names of the entity (as registered by the RF Justice Minisrty): ''Русская православная церковь'' and ''Московский патриархат''. In all honesty, the name used in the relevant article has never been in existence, albeit it could be an historiographic designation covering the multitude of names; in effect the ROC had not had a properly official name prior to 1943, when it was formally recognised by state under this name.[[User:Muscovite99|Max]] 18:00, December 18, 2008 (UTC)
: This is answered on [[Talk:Church of Russia]]. As is noted in a number of our policy documents, we have our own taxonomy here, which often does not reflect official, legal names. The official OrthodoxWiki standard for all Orthodox churches is ''Church of [Place]''. This policy has been in effect pretty much since the wiki was founded in 2004. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 19:37, December 18, 2008 (UTC)
::*I can perfectly see the logic behind such taxonomy and even accept it. But the point is, as i noted in my original edit comment, that such designation is not only formally incorrect, but in essence as well (by essence i mean the ecclesiological reasoning that obviously underpins your taxonomy). This is no more a Church of Russia than it is a Church of Ukraine (in fact, Ukraine could well lay a historically better grounded claim to it), or Latvia, for that matter. If one were to base the wording of the designation on the title of a Primate in question (which would be a legitimate thing to do within your taxonomy), the article would have to be called "Church of Moscow" (or "Church of Rus"). Paradoxically, you have chosen to employ the current official name of a country, which constitutes only a fraction (less than half by parish numbers) of the "canonical territory" of the ROC. How can you warrant that?[[User:Muscovite99|Max]] 20:00, December 22, 2008 (UTC)
::: It's warranted with a combination of basic ecclesiology (i.e., the Church is not "Russian," "Greek," etc., but it is the Church in and of a particular place—Russia, Greece, etc.) and of English usage. ("Church of Russia" gets about 30,000 hits on Google.) It's notably the usage of such groups as the OCA[http://www.oca.org/OCworldrussia.asp?SID=2], etc. Of course its usage pales in comparison with "Russian Orthodox Church," but that term is objectionable for the reasons previously noted. ("Church of Moscow" is a somewhat idiosyncratic term hardly ever used except in larger, translated phrases such as "Estonian Church of Moscow Patriarchate.")
::: The many parishes in Ukraine are covered by a separate article: [[Church of Ukraine]] (along with articles on the irregular bodies, as well).
::: No matter what one names these articles, they'll not be satisfactory to all. This is what our policy here is. Our policy has been to use the city names for the ancient patriarchates but common country names for the newer autocephalous and autonomous churches (the exceptions are the OCA, which is of somewhat irregular status, and the Church of Sinai, which designates a region). You'll notice that this is consistently the case.
::: Anyway, the proper place to discuss the names of articles is on the talk pages of the articles themselves. That way, everyone interested in working on the article can participate. Please direct future comments to [[Talk:Church of Russia]]. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 21:25, December 22, 2008 (UTC)
== Prove to Me that We need that Guy ==
I will be the first to put UP my hand and say "WE NEED THAT GUY"! bet you never thought I would say that they way "sou vgazo glwssa oli tin wra" [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:15, December 19, 2008 (UTC)
: Vasiliki, it's not "we need ''that guy''," but rather I'm the Guy Who Says "Prove To Me That We Need That [article/addition/thing/etc.]." There is a reason why I placed the hyphens where I did. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 21:04, December 19, 2008 (UTC)
::I give up ... I just wish you could not be so 'scholastic'with me some times and just ... lighten up :) I apologise in advance ... [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 13:13, December 20, 2008 (UTC)
::: Vasiliki, it's not "scholastic" to expect that readers actually read carefully. It's just good language usage. There's a reason why grammar, syntax, punctuation, etc., work the way they do. It might help if you didn't so frequently assume the worst when reading what other folks write.
::: Certainly, perhaps this level of reading and writing comprehension is not needed for everyday life (though I think it is!), but it surely is absolutely crucial when writing a reference work like an encyclopedia! Indeed, if being "scholastic" is needed anywhere, it's here. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 16:21, December 20, 2008 (UTC)
== Timeline ==
Hello Father, Eulogeite. First I wanted to wish you very warm Christmas wishes. Christ is born, Glorify Him! :)
I wanted to ask if I can proceed and create the 10 sub-articles for the Timeline of Church History article (one sub-article for each of the 10 periods listed on the main article). Each sub-article would look exactly the same as the main article now does ,except that it would contain only the information for that particular era of course. I proposed a criterion on the talk page for what may be included on the reduced main timeline page; basically, if you agree and I can proceed to create the 10 sub-articles, with your blessing, and then shorten the remaining main article according to the criteria I attempted to set out, it would be great; I would emphasize that no information would be lost -- all the complete listings of the current timeline would remain on the 10-sub-articles. Or, I could create the 10-sub-rticles, and then you could do the final edit (reduction) of the main page then? Just an idea! Please let me know what you think! Cheers and Merry Christmas Father. Chris. :)
[[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 03:03, December 21, 2008 (UTC)
==Deletion of template==
HEY - you deleted two templates so all the information on these is GONE! How do I get the information back? I know you are the moderator/administrator but can you PLEASE just ONCE be kinder ... give me a 24 hour notice to MOVE the information????? Can you please resupply the stuff IN the templates. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:00, January 1, 2009 (UTC)
: It's not gone. I've noted on your Talk page where you can find it. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:50, January 1, 2009 (UTC)
== Font Colours ==
Which article talks about how to do font colours and different text styles in HTML? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:25, January 5, 2009 (UTC)
: There isn't one on the wiki. There are plenty of HTML tutorials elsewhere, though. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 04:20, January 6, 2009 (UTC)
== Ah you're a quick one! ==
Not bad--you got rid of my talk post in just less than 24 hours. Not bad...my hat's off to you sir! You have a gift for wiki-editing!{{unsigned|AmanUwellCant}}
: Inherently disruptive posts without any engagement regarding content are removed as a matter of form. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:56, January 22, 2009 (UTC)
== Thank U for the work you put in ==
I am not the site owner but I am sure that if awards could be given to the most hard-woring Users on Orthodoxwiki there would be three to give out: you, Wsk and ASDamick! I wanted to pause at this point in my OrthodoxWiki career and acknowledge the efforts of those people who really do put a lot of time and effort into keeping OW alive and say Thank you for the work and time you put into making the articles rewarding!!! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:55, January 20, 2009 (UTC)
== Antioch and the Armenians ==
I have been to a canonical Antiochian church where they gave communion to Armenians . How do they do this ? [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 20:25, January 23, 2009 (UTC)
: Is it a sin to be ethnically Armenian? Anyway, I cannot answer for what is done in a particular parish. Why not talk to the pastor? —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:44, January 23, 2009 (UTC)
As in Armenian Apostolic. And he said that they were in communion with them, that's why I'm asking you because you said on your page that it's not possible [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)
: The Armenian Apostolic church is not in communion with the Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch. This is how my and all the bishops of our Archdiocese consistently answer when questioned on the topic.
: Again, I cannot answer for what is done at a parish which is outside of my responsibility, especially when it is not clear that all the facts are apparent. (We have, for instance, Coptic Christians who commune at our parish, but that is because they are members of our parish, having been received into communion through confession of faith.) —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:52, January 24, 2009 (UTC)
== Technical problem ==
I am a new user and could not find the detailed information about how to bring images from Wikimedia Commons to Orthodox Wiki. I would be very grateful if you could help. [[User:Bag|Bag]] 21:28, March 6, 2009 (UTC)
== Article titles ==
Hi, should I put the country name in the titles of my articles on churches (like Białystok, Poland)? They're already cathegorized as "Polish churches" so I don't think it's necessary. [[User:Bag|Bag]] 09:06, March 9, 2009 (UTC)
== Chrysostom ==
Hello again, I looked at the St. John Chrysostom page, and thought that the St. John Chrysostom Oratorical Festival should be included. It would show that he has inspired children to orate the word of God to others, continuing in his footsteps. Since I have participated in the past and am in it again this year, I though it would be a good idea to mention it, and maybe put a link to the [[GOARCH]] website where they talk more about it and give more information. Tell me what you think! Thanks, --[[User:Iliada|Iliada]] 18:01, March 16, 2009 (UTC)
: I've responded to your comment at [[Talk:John Chrysostom]]. In the future, you may wish to keep your comments limited only to the specific article in question. Posting it in multiple places is not in itself likely to gain notice. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:36, March 19, 2009 (UTC)
== Is WO a live forum of information or is it selective in the information it displays? ==
This post refers to your changes in the page;
If persons should see fit to add to that information, I implore them to do so.
== Azarias? ==Χριστος ανεστη! This has nothing to do with Orthodox Wikipedia, but when I read the 3 youths passage on Holy Saturday, I noticed that Azarias is not one of the original three youths. there's Meeshak, Shadrack, and Abendago. Those three are describes throughout the whole reading, but then it says that Azarias said something. Who is Azarias? Thanks, --<font color="teal">[[User:FrjohnwhitefordIliada|FrjohnwhitefordIliada]] 16</font><font color="teal" size="100px"></font> 17:4129, March 18April 24, 2007 2009 (CDTUTC)
: Shadrac, Meshach, and Abednago are the Babylonian names of the Hebrew Hananiah (Ananias), Azariah (Azarias) and Mishael (Misael). —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color= See the above comments "green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 23:14, April 25, 2009 (UTC)
== Interwiki Request for speedy deletion ==
==images' deletionWhat is Orthodoxwiki?==
I had an idea to create a new template for [[User_talk:Angellight_888#New_Template|Orthodox Church and Roman Catholic Church history]], where the various ''shared or related'' historical themes, subjects and articles of both images are personal churches could be grouped together neatly in one pathfinder / template. I have come to realize that it is quite a daunting task, and i I was hoping I could ask for your opinion on what I have the only original copiesworked out so far (see this [[User_talk:Angellight_888#New_Template|link]], on my talk-page). truly i'm not cognizant Many of copyright policies the words or headings I have titled may need to be changed, and i the focus tightened... I have used what i thought as probably the word "history" rather than "relations" in the title, because it seems more appropriate (i used and allows for the inclusion of links to relevant articles. I thought it would go nicely at the bottom of the ''commons'' [[Timeline of Orthodox Church and Roman Catholic relations]] article; including such templates as you know is a successful pattern over at Wikipedia, and this particular timeline is one because i read i had place on OW where I think it would be useful, and allow for the elimination of "see also" links, and some "external links" at the same time. Whenever you may have time for a look it would be much appreciated, and feel free to go ahead and edit/change/correct/remove or add if you want to; I saved it on my talk page so I can work on it there until it is ready if we decide to do keep it).againCheers and thanks, [[User:Angellight 888|Angellight 888]] 00:25, October 3, i'm relly sory for all that mess.2010 (UTC)
: Done. —[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color= Kallistos Ware "red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 23:54, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
After seeing that you addressed the medication spam pages I was at a lecture hosted by His Eminence earlier today at [http://www.gocoos.org/ Greek Orthodox Church of Our Savior] in Ryereported, NY. The parish priest who introduced him mentioned to I followed the audience link and saw with pleasure that "Bishop" Ware was unaware of his elevation until you are the priest told him upon his arrivalsame Fr. Thus was Andrew I bemused at reading your update've run into elsewhere. Just out of curiosity, were you at the lecture as well? One of the brother priests perhaps? (There were quite a few other priests, and even a Romanian bishop) Or did you come upon the information some other way?
==Directory==Hi Fr Andrew, I see you guys are having 'm looking for responses for my proposal (to delete the same problem as what I also want to deal with parish directory pages for Australia) on our site. See: http://meta.wikimediaorthodoxwiki.org/wikiOrthodoxWiki:Administrators#Eliminating_directory_articles - your thoughts? — by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</Captcha_extensionsfont>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 19:16, January 31, 2013 (HST)