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I humbly offer the way I've been working on the [[Church Calendar]], at [[User:Joe Rodgers|Joe]]'s request:
<ol><li> Open each of the sites and find the day to work with: [http://www.oca.org/FSlives.asp "oca"], [http://pomog.org/index.html?saintlist.shtml "pomog"], [http://goarch.org/en/chapel/calendar.asp "goarch"], [http://saintgeorge.org/news_and_events/church_calendar/saint_of_the_day/saint_of_the_day_index.php "st. g"], [http://www.antiochian.org/western/liturgics/synaxarion "antiochian"], [http://www.ortodoxakyrkan.se/Typikon%202005.pdf "typikon"] (PDF). These are all listed on my [[User:Magda|user page]], so I generally open the tabs from there. Open the [[Church Calendar]] in one tab in order to select the date to start on easily.</li>
<ul><li>I use mozilla [http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ firefox], which allows [http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/tabbed-browsing tabbed browsing].</li></ul>
<li> Open two windows of WordPad.  (Any text editor which lets you replace all, though I think WordPad is available on all Windows boxen.)  One is a saved file containing the following (though now you could simply use this page):</li>
 <nowiki>==Feasts==
{{August 1}}

[[Category:Feasts]]
[[Category:Saints]]

<div style="float:right;margin-left:1em">
[[Image:Pantokrator of Sinai.jpg|100px|Our Lord Jesus Christ]]
</div>

<div style="float:right;margin-left:1em">
[[Image:Theotokos of Vladimir.jpg|100px|Our Holy Lady Theotokos]]
</div>

<div style="float:right;margin-left:1em">
[[Image:Rublev Trinity.jpg|100px|The Holy Trinity]]
</div></nowiki>
<li> In the other (blank) file, add the commemorations from the "pomog" site.
<ul><li>I started this because of [[User:Basil|Basil]]'s preference, then found the formatting to be useful.  Be aware that this site does have typos, and you may be more used to other spellings of the names.  I generally only change the spellings for names I am familiar with, and going through the other sites will help you get an idea of alternate spellings (see step 5).  Unless there is an alternate spelling listed on a single site, i.e., "[[July 25|Olympias (Olympiada)]]" from the "pomog" site, I would reserve alternate spellings for the saint's article.</li></ul>
<li>Using the "replace" function, change all "St." to "Saint" (check "match whole word only") and "." to ";" then check for any "Mt;" occurences.  Add line breaks (enters) to see each commemoration on a separate line.  Make sure each line ends with "; " including the space.</li>
<li> Add commemorations from each of the other sites, placing mentions of relics, icons, and reposes at the latter part of the file.</li>
<li> Copy and paste into the date article, e.g., [[July 1]], the template (from the "Feasts" line to the Category:Saints line).  Change the date to the article's title.  Copy and paste one of the three "div" tags (trying to alternate, though they will probably be changed later to reflect the feasts and saints of the day) into the template article, e.g., [[Template:July 1]].  Copy and paste from the second WordPad file into the template file, with no space between the end of the "div" tag and the beginning of the commemorations.  (I don't know whether a space would make a difference, but this is the way I do it.)</li>
<li> Start from the beginning: add the wiki links and remove the extra line breaks.  Check for ending punctuation; there should be none at the end of the file.  If a commemoration is also from another day, check on that/those link(s) and add a "see also" with the dates; remember to close the parentheses.  (I don't worry about that too much, because I plan to go back for cross-referencing when the calendar's first draft is complete.)  If there are other events besides feasts (such as the repose of a person who is not recognized as a saint), replace ";" with "." for the preceeding entry, then add '''Other events:''' followed by the other events.</li>
<li> Preview the template file.  When that works, save the template.  Preview the date article to make sure the template goes to the correct day, then save.</li>
<ul><li> When a date already has a file, check to make sure it has all the commemorations.  If it doesn't, go ahead and add them to the template file.</li></ul>
</ol>
N.B.: Just because I do it this way doesn't mean you have to. —[[User:Magda|magda]] 11:38, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)


==Repose==
Question: Sometimes a saint will be commemorated on the day of his repose, and the repose itself will be mentioned, giving a title other than "Saint."  Other times, the repose is listed of a person whose sainthood has not been declared by the Church.  How may one distinguish when the commemoration should be included in the "feasts" and when in the "other events"? —[[User:Magda|magda]] 11:38, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)

: I'd say to list it in "feasts" when it's a canonized saint, but put it in "other events" when it's someone else.  I'd be sparing with who gets listed that's not a saint, though, as a given list may include someone who is important to that group but overall not as important to the Church as a whole.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|{{User:ASDamick/sig}}]] 17:11, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)

::And how do you find out whether or not the person is canonized?  Sometimes I find out that the person is a saint because another site has the name in a commemoration without mentioning the "repose," but I can imagine that there would be instances in which all the mentions there are would commemorate as "the repose of." Not that these couldn't be changed later, but if there's a relatively simple solution... —[[User:Magda|magda]] 18:31, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)

::: Aside from Googling and otherwise searching, I'm not sure what simple solution there might be.  Such folks are probably usually mentioned last in a given list.  &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|{{User:ASDamick/sig}}]] 18:36, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)

== How to add Javascript with Russian Orthodox Calendar ==

I was trying to figure out the way to call days.ru javascript with Russian Orthodox Calendar from one of the appropriate OrthodoxWIKI pages. The code is very simple:

<script language="Javascript" src="http://www.days.ru/calendar.php"></script> 

Unfortunatelly I can't get it to execute in Sandbox. It's always displayed as a text during the page loading. User's suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,
Alexei