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*[[User talk:Magda/Archive001|Archive 1]](November 24, 2004 – August 28, 2005)*[[User talk:Magda/Archive002|Archive 2]](September 14, 2005 – December 15, 2005)*[[User talk:Magda/Archive003|Archive 3]] (December 23, 2005 – September 28, 2007)
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==Names of Bishops in the Church==
Hi Magda, I really appreciate what you do ...you do a lot of awesome editing but I really have to disagree with 1 change you are making to the 'Metropolis of XXX' articles that I have created over the past few days. This issue I have is over-riding the link I set up for the Bishops. I have noticed that you include the Metropolis area as a title to their name Eg. His Emincence [[John (Black) of Area A and B]]. I dont agree with including the 'of Area A and B' part because that title could change with time. They may become a Metropolitan to another area perhaps and then the title would no longer be relevant. I think it suffices to just use their name with Surname in the brackets ..leaving the title out of it? What do you think? Is their something I dont know that I should know for the reason to include the title? -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 14:00, February 21, 2008 (PST)
==Userboxes on user pageWelcome back==Welcome back Presvitera, I have missed your edits to my articles over the last few days - welcome back! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 13:31, February 25, 2008 (PST)
Could you tell me how ==Help needed==Hello Magda, I would like to add userboxes like they have on Wikipedia? I'd love bring to add some but I'm not sure how.your attention problem with the article [[User:CavyloverJohn (Zizioulas) of Pergamon]]where one of the users keep removing valid academic source to the criticism of the J.Z., not providing any valid academic reason for removal, but rather expressing his own opinion on the matter. Since I know that user from Wikipedia and have experienced his disgraceful behavior there, I am asking for help before situation ends up in the formal request for mediation (just as happened there). Thank you.
[[User:Cebactokpatop|Cebactokpatop]] 10:25, March 5, 2008 (PST)
== Nativity series Holy Sepulchre==
Sounds greatHmm, you're right about the spelling of Sepulchre. That was bothering me throughout, but what did you have in mind? (Or were you hoping Ididn'd provide thatt want to change the title of the article. Do you think it should be Americanized?) :) {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 14:24, December 23, 2005 (CST)
== VAs for what I did changed, there were a number of verbs in the history section of the article in the present tense (that were about past events). So that's Cardbox ==what I meant by present to past tense in history. I stopped after the history section (except for changing annointed to anointed in the next paragraph), so that's why you don't see changes throughout. Oh, and I also messed with what I thought was awkward wording once or twice. Please change anything you think needs undoing.
Could we imply that you are endorsing/advising readers Thanks for the kind words about my editing. I really need to buy with confidence from these suppliers? (There are many start getting back on more. Honestly, but I am not sure what just don't have the rules are? Do they need free time that I did in college. Plus, my job requires me to pay sit in front of a computer 8 hours a day, so when I get home I sometimes just want to you first to be listed?get away from these machines! [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 19:01, March 22, 2008 (PDT). ER
== [[New Martyrs]] French links ==
I'm actively putting together a separate article at this momentThanks for filling in all the French links, Magda! — [[User:) {{UserFrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http:ASDamick/sig}} 15/www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 06:3538, January 3April 10, 2006 2008 (CSTUTC)
== Searching ==:I also wanted to give credit to Magda on the External Links; I have noticed her over last fortnight adding and adding links and its a very difficult task and I have to say she is doing a really timely and thorough job! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:34, April 16, 2008 (UTC)
Yeah== Ekatontapyliani versus Ekatontapiliani ==Hi, ur question on Anastasios Orlandos got me thinking ... can u do a hit on the word Ekatontapyliani versus Ekatontapiliani to see which is hit more frequently or if you cant be bother how can I've noticed do that sort of thing before, too, both here and on Wikipedia. I don't understand it. :/ {{a check? [[User:ASDamick/sig}} 08Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 04:4049, January 4April 17, 2006 2008 (CSTUTC)
== Categorizing hierarchs New England Diocese==Thanks, Magda, for catching the century 'date'. Also, you came up with the date for Abp Dmitiri that I've been trying to find for some time. Now the dates in his article need correcting!! [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 23:17, April 30, 2008 (UTC)
== Issues Logging In ==Hi, I am having issues logging in and editing ...I only manage 30 seconds every day. i will try to fix up Athos issues when this account works properly ... I don't completely hope this message saves. Please understand all my editing has been almost but stopped in the options you gavelast week. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:40, but...May 30, 2008 (UTC)
My preference is for there to be individual articles titled "List of Xes of Y," where "Xes" is the highest rank for that see, e.g., [[List of Patriarchs of Constantinople]] which lists all bishops of Byzantium/Constantinople, no matter their rank. The category would be included in all articles about those bishops, and the "List of" article would also be included in the category. {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 19:28, January 5, 2006 (CST) :'I'Your patent answers (which I never seem to think of) are why I keep asking m sorry you questions.'': And here I thought that I was just a curmudgeon who liked things his own wayre having trouble logging in and editing. :) {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 10:54, January 6, 2006 (CST) ==Uninhabited!==I agree, Magda. In my mind I had questioned their inclusion in the template from the start. And their listing only added unecessary length to the "wanted" list, but after a while I didn't see them being removed. Som not sure what specific problems you're having, my attempt to remove them by writing articles!!! Please remove them. so I didndon't want know how to removed them unilaterallyhelp. [[User:WskMagda|Wsk<b>magda</b>]] 06:35, January 8, 2006 (CST) By the way, I missed three other unhabited 'islands' that are listed in the template that also should be removed: Midway Island, Jarvis Island, and Palmyra Atoll. [[UserUser_talk:WskMagda|Wsktalk]] 09:35, January 12, 2006 (CST=='Anglo Saxon' versus 'Greek'==You are right in your observation and I feel that I am right in mine. My contribution was based on personal observation and interpretation, and also from listening to others (though there is certainly no unanimity). It transpired that Timothy Ware is most appreciated for his scholarly work and forgiven for his 'racist' attitude towards Greeks because it is demonstrated so politely. I would argue that his 'racism' is a product of his generation. But it also the manifestation of the unreconciled heart and mind of a particular kind of convert. His intellectual approach to the Greek Orthodox faith exemplifies all the rigour of a Protestant heart and of a need for 'straight' empiricism; these are truly worthy attributes, but not appropriate for tackling the depths of Greek Orthodoxy or for coming to terms with the inherent Orthodoxy that comes from being born into an ancient Orthodox dailiness. In the case of Timothy Ware, this gap between scholarly rigour and the Orthodox condition cannot be reconciled, so it is resolved through the 'racist' attitude he was probably born into and educated by.At least, that is how I view the situation for the time being.RespectufullyPolitis. == Featured Articles, etc. == Thanks for the tip on plurals. I thought I recalled seeing that corrected in the other direction some time back, but am undoubtedly mistaken. It does make more sense (and less typing) to do it the way you describe.  I do seem to catch a lot of newcomers nowadays. :-) How about [[Julian Calendar]], [[Psalter]], or [[Classification of Feasts]] for featured articles? {{User:Dcndavid/sig}} 0913:4142, January 24May 30, 2006 2008 (CSTUTC)
==Thanks...Capitalization ==For the kind words about my article. I thought it was a travesty that my patron didn't have an article, so I felt compelled to write this one first.Yes, I was having some issues with the picture, but I think I finally have it down. I actually tried to use the thumb tag/command (whichever is the proper term), but I used it at the same time as frame, for some reason, so it came the literal size of a thumbnail and was quite grainy. Well, now I know.Tell your husband that a random person from the internet said congrats on his upcoming deaconhood. He should become a priest next year, right?(Whoops, forgot to sign my name the first time.) [[user:Gabriela|Gabriela]] May 9, 2006, 15:07 (CST)
[[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual#Capitalization|Done]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color= The image "green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 17:07, June 2, 2008 (UTC)
GFDL, for sure. {{User:ASDamick== Undo/sig}} 15:18, May 16, 2006 (CDT)hide ==
== Robber Council(s"Undo" undoes. :) and St. Symeon Works... == Experiment!
Thanks for catching that erroneous edit MagdaYou can delete particular edits by clicking on "show/hide" in an article's history. I didn&mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">(''t realize there was more than one Robber Council. I'm guessing that you moved the works section down to External Links because they are references to external links. Should the same be done to [[Symeon_the_New_TheologianUser:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]???''')</font></small> 22:06, June 11, 2008 (UTC)
{{: I can't seem to restore that article, either. I'm gonna axe it, since it doesn't really belong here, anyhow. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:JlczukASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></sig}} 10small> 00:4919, May 23June 12, 2006 2008 (CDTUTC)
==[[Nicolas Mansour]]OrthodoxSource ==Wrt not understanding succession box: that's a very popular viewpoint at the moment Hi, I was hoping to recruit you into OrthodoxSource - are you interested in coming in and that's aside from the fact that the succession only works one way, and that one way may not even be terribly accurate. It's definitely an area that needs more information and more work on. &mdash; ''discussing over there? -- [[User:PistevoIxthis888|Vasiliki]]''[[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]]'''[[User talk:Pistevo|τ]]'''[[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]]''[[User:Pistevo|vο]]'', at 17:03, May 28, 2006 (CDT)
== Refs ==:Hi, thanks for referring Template:OSource, can you explain for me .... should I be using this template to mark articles in OW that should be migrated into OSource? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:05, June 23, 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the note in the ''[[Orthodox Study Bible]]'' article. I was only familiar with how Wikipedia formats those. [[User:Cholmes75|cholmes75]] 11:24, June 9, 2006 (CDT)== External links --- ==
==Serbian Succession Boxes==AhhHi, these ones I do understandhave modified three articles (on purpose) on a temporary basis, only so that I can demonstrate an idea . Main problem: there are two Serbian dioceses in Australia-New Zealand, and H.G. Nikanor's box I wanted to point out that I will revert the articles back once I have had a response I suppose from at least your or one of the Fathers or some of the other admins as to reflect that he succeeded two bishopswhat you think ...the three "pilot" articles are:
Explanatory: Since H.G. [[Nikanor (Bogunovic) Athanasius of Banat|NikanorAlexandria]], they have been reigned over or administered by one bishop, but the bishops immediately before that (Their Graces Sava and Luka) were only just communion with each other. Before that, they were out of communion. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="red">Pι</font>]][[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]][[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="yellow">τ</font>Alexander Schmemann]][[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]][[User:Pistevo|<font color="blue">vο</font>John of Damascus]] at 19:51, June 9, 2006 (CDT)
== Xenophontos image ==I am definately keen to get a discussion going linking Owiki and Osource ... I am having a lot of fun doing the programming in Osource but I dont want to move forward until some people start putting in some feedback. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 00:39, June 24, 2008 (UTC)
I originally got it from [[w:Image:Img0007.jpg|Wikipedia]], but let's axe it. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:18, June 27, 2006 (CDT)
== RE: Stephanos of Khinolakkos (from a 200+ year-old book) St. Donald ==
Thanks Hello, Matushka - thank you for your note. This is from an 18th cent. book by the extra links, concerning St. Nicodemus [[Donald of the Holy Mountain [http://www.catholic-forum.com/Saints/saintn63.htmOgilvy]] entitled '''Lives of the Saints for and his holy Nine Maidens! Seeing as how you have found much about the Whole Year'''Nine Maidens, which I feel it is only proper to do an article about them, now that you have an electronic copy of (pointed me in the book is not fully available online from GOARCH)right direction. If Thank you think this is still a problem, I would be happy to have this entry deleted and stop importing further entries from St. Nicodemus' book. --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 04:32, August 19, 2006 (CDT)again!
==Contributed articles==I think what I was trying to do with the ethics articles I edited was to designate them as essentially persuasive, not encyclopedic in the sense of being purely a retelling of facts. No doubt the Church's position should be clearly stated (if there is one), but some of the articles deal with issues that have never been clearly and dogmatically defined. They just lack that neutrality that I see as intrinsic to an encyclopedia article.[[User:Mishakaz|Mishakaz]]
I guess it's really a matter of defining what the goals for Orthowiki are and how much leeway we want to give for deviations from a strictly encyclopedic style. To me, it just seems like the talk pages would be a better place for opinion stands on debatable issues, if we ever have enough people to start really using them. == [[User:Gabriela|GabrielaLeo VI]] 20:34, March 3, 2007 (PST)==
You're right. I've reverted. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color= chrysobullion "green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 16:59, July 1, 2008 (UTC)
In Byzantine empir it is higest imperial edict with golden seal. It is similar to papal bull. It is translated in Serbian as ЗЛАТНОПЕЧАТНО СЛОВО charter with golden seal[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 19:52, March 6, 2007 (CET)== Thanks ==
== Blank Thanks for the little help about suggested pages ==. --[[User:Ephilei|Ephilei]] 02:07, July 3, 2008 (UTC)
== Active appeal ==
MagdaThere's currently an active appeal over at [[OrthodoxWiki talk:Administrators]]. If as an admin, no I can not think of a way you would like to find the these pagesparticipate, I tried please feel free to look at the html source, but by the time it gets to me, it is blanked outdo so. The problem being with ''non-standard characters'' is just a guessThanks! &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, because if I save without changing and then use the History tab to see what has changedGeorgia, the Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color=" are the only things that are red. ">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:AndrewASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|AndrewTHINK!]] 12''')</font></small> 16:5802, March 7August 19, 2007 2008 (PSTUTC)
== Accept RevisedCan I copy a Wikipedia article over here? ==
Dear MagdaHi,
ThereI's ve been a request to use some of your edited content working on Orthodox-related articles over at Wikipedia. Would you mind putting the [[Template:Acceptrevised|Acceptrevised]] template For example, I've been working on your user page to clarify the copyright (you can add it like this: <nowiki>{{acceptrevised}}</nowiki>? That would be very helpful! Thanks, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://wwwen.orthodoxwikiwikipedia.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talkwiki/East-West_Schism East-West Schism]) 08:54, April 25, 2007 (PDT)article. There is no such article here. Can I just copy the text from Wikipedia over here wholesale? What are the relevant copyright rules?
== Holy Cross Articles ==--[[User:Richardshusr|Richardshusr]] 20:06, January 22, 2009 (UTC)
Hey Magda! I'm thinking it might be nice to put all the articles launched through the Holy Cross ethics class over the past few years in a category, with some kind of descriptive overview. Do you have a good sense of which articles would be included? Also, who is the professor these were written for? Thanks, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki== Quotes from St.org/User_talk:FrJohn&actionJohn Chrisostom =edit&section=new talk])
== Emperor Theodosius ==Hi Magda,
Thanks for getting all I noticed in the links to the Emperor Theodosius [[sex]] article. I find now adding articles means a lot of searching and making links. A note: You are much more up on our various saints, so in your rewrite in March 2008 some quotes from SJC made there way in that's why the note to you. I notice your linking of September 14 to Placilla the Empress as Theodosius' wife. In the sources I found his first wife was noted as "Aelia Flacilla". With the similar names I'm guessing the names refer to the same personhaving trouble verifying. If so, the Theodosius article should note the different spellings for her name. Would Could you check it and make the modification to the article, if names apply to look at my comment in the same person. Bill Kosar [[UserTalk:WskSex#Purpose_Section_and_St._John_Chrysostom|Wskdiscussion]] 07:14, August 7and see if you have an answer? I'd greatly appreciate the help, 2007 (PDT)thanks!
==Weird character deletions==Nope, no back-up! I stupidly thought that you could always go back and look at the text of previous versions on the history tab. My college laptop hard drive kicked the bucket earlier this year, so I don't have anything I wrote before this March or so. Most of the article was just a revision of the wikipedia article, anyway. By the way, I'm glad you're back helping out. I've had almost no free time lately with my new job and long commute, and I feel bad if no one does the new user welcome pages and other routine tasks.[[User:GabrielaMets|GabrielaMets]] 1518:2146, September 8June 17, 2007 2009 (PDTUTC)
==Thanks againKursk-Root Icon visit to Tarpon Springs ==Thanks for your comments on the St Kirion article. I have to try your procedure about the OCA site next time.[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 17:28, September 10, 2007 (PDT)
Thanks for improving Hey there! It was nice meeting you in person today! Who would have thought? May the [[Panagia Axion Estin]] article -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 14:08Theotokos bless you, February 18Father, 2008 (PST)and your wonderful family!
==OrthodoxWikiCommons==I see that the "Upload file" link now goes to OrthodoxWikiCommons. Once an image is uploaded there, how exactly do you use it in an article? I've tried using the interwiki "owcom", but that doesn't seem to work (or maybe I've got the syntax wrong.) Or do you need to somehow port the image back into OrthodoxWiki?Thanks ; [[User:PaterakisMishakaz|PaterakisMishakaz]] 1006:2905, September 28February 19, 2007 2011 (PDTUTC)
== Non-mainstream Australian articles==(response:That worked perfectly! Could have sworn I tried that before, but I probably flip) No problems -flopped some characters or somethingshould be completed now. Thanks! &mdash; by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[Usertalk:PaterakisPistevo/dev/null|Paterakis<font color="red">complaints</font>]] 12''</sup> at 22:3543, September 28March 21, 2007 2015 (PDT) (''also posted on [[User_talk:Pistevo]]'s page'')
==Names of Bishops in the ChurchQuick changes! ==Hi Magda, I really appreciate what you do ...you do a lot of awesome editing but I really have to disagree with 1 change you are making to the 'Metropolis of XXX' articles that I have created over the past few days. This issue I have is over-riding the link I set up for the Bishops. I have noticed that you include the Metropolis area as a title to their name Eg. His Emincence [[John (Black) of Area A and B]]. I dont agree with including the 'of Area A and B' part because that title could change with time. They may become a Metropolitan to another area perhaps and then the title would no longer be relevant. I think it suffices to just use their name with Surname in the brackets ..leaving the title out of it? What do you think? Is their something I dont know that I should know for the reason to include the title? -- [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 14:00, February 21, 2008 (PST)
==Welcome back==Welcome back Presvitera, I have missed your edits to my articles over the last few days - welcome backHi Magda! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 13:31, February 25, 2008 (PST) ==Help needed==Hello Magda, I would like to bring to your attention problem with the put up an article [[John (Zizioulas) of Pergamon]] where one of the users keep removing valid academic source to the criticism of the J.Z., not providing any valid academic reason for removaltoday, but rather expressing his own opinion on the matter. Since I know that user from Wikipedia and have experienced his disgraceful behavior there, I am asking for help before situation ends up in the formal request for mediation (just as happened there). Thank you.  [[User:Cebactokpatop|Cebactokpatop]] 10:25, March 5, 2008 (PST) ==Holy Sepulchre== Hmm, you're right about the spelling of Sepulchre. That was bothering me throughout, but I didn't want coming back to change the title of the article. Do you think it should be Americanized? As for what I did changedadd categories, there were a number of verbs in the history section of the article in the present tense (that were about past events). So that's what and I meant by present to past tense in history. I stopped after the history section (except for changing annointed to anointed in the next paragraph), so noticed that's why you don't see changes throughout. Oh, and I also messed with what I thought was awkward wording once or twice. Please change anything you think needs undoing. Thanks for the kind words about my editing. I really need to start getting back on more. Honestly, I just don't have the free time that I did in college. Plus, my job requires me to sit in front of a computer 8 hours a day, so when I get home I sometimes just want to get away from these machineshad already done it! [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 19:01, March 22, 2008 (PDT) == French links == Thanks for filling in all the French links, Magda Wow! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 06:38, April 10, 2008 (UTC) :I also wanted to give credit to Magda on the External Links; I have noticed her over last fortnight adding and adding links and its a very difficult task and I have to say she is doing a really timely and thorough job! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 23:34, April 16, 2008 (UTC) == Ekatontapyliani versus Ekatontapiliani ==Hi, ur question on Anastasios Orlandos got me thinking ... can u do a hit on the word Ekatontapyliani versus Ekatontapiliani Good to see which is hit more frequently or if you cant be bother how can I do around - hope that sort of a check? [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 04:49, April 17, 2008 (UTC) ==New England Diocese==Thanks, Magda, for catching the century 'date'. Also, things are well with you came up with the date for Abp Dmitiri that I've been trying to find for some time. Now the dates in his article need correcting!! [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 23 :17, April 30, 2008 (UTC== Issues Logging In ==Hi, I am having issues logging in and editing ...I only manage 30 seconds every day. i will try to fix up Athos issues when this account works properly ... I hope this message saves. Please understand my editing has been almost but stopped in the last week. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 03:40, May 30, 2008 (UTC) :I'm sorry you're having trouble logging in and editing. I'm not sure what specific problems you're having, so I don't know how to help. —[[User:MagdaKatjuscha|<b>magda</b>Katjuscha]] ([[User_talk20:Magda|talk]]) 13:4252, May 30March 1, 2008 2016 (UTCPST)
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