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Hello, Wsk, and welcome to OrthodoxWiki!

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We hope you enjoy editing here and being a part of our community! —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 11:25, 28 May 2005 (CDT)

Photos from Japan

Judging by the age you give the photos, it is likely that their copyright has long expired and they are now in the public domain. You should feel free to scan them in and upload them to the site. Thanks for your work! —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 07:09, 6 Jun 2005 (CDT)


I deleted the duplicate article as you requested.

One other note is that when you did a "move" on the Sandbox, it turned the Sandbox into a redirect to the new article. Additionally, it imported the entire editing history from the Sandbox into your new article. I thought you might like to know that for future reference. In the future, you may wish to create new article projects in the userspace instead, e.g., User:Wsk/Article Name, or just copy and paste the code into the new article, so that redirects and shifted editing histories don't get thrown about. —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 19:54, 7 Jun 2005 (CDT)

Nikolai-do pics

Those photos are fantastic! Thanks for procuring them. Please be sure to add an image license for each one as is appropriate. —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 15:49, 17 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Bishops and links

You're most welcome for the help—it's the standard wiki-protocol!  :)

There are a couple things to note:

  • Links and article names for bishops are in the format Firstname (Surname) of See. The birthname can be noted in the article, but it's not included in the article name. Making links to as-yet-absent articles is also included here, since clicking on those links will lead a user to create an article with that name.
  • Creating wiki-links which link to an article with name A yet display name B are done in the following fashion: [[Name A|Name B]] Thus, if I wanted to link to your userpage without displaying its full name, I would use [[User:Wsk|Wsk]], yielding this: Wsk.

Please take the time to read through the Help:Contents and the OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual for lots of tips on style and technical details. —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 13:36, 25 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Orthodoxy in America template

Great job on making all the "American Saints" on the template blue. You have some very well-researched articles. —magda 16:26, 30 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Sp: Archimandrite/Archmandrite

I've noticed that there seems to be a consistent spelling error in a number of your articles. Just so you know, the word is spelled archimandrite, not archmandrite. (This is not a personal criticism; just trying to let you know!) —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 09:18, 8 Aug 2005 (EDT)

St. Herman's Seminary

I moved the St. Herman's page because the apostrophe was one of those "smart quotes" and the Orthodoxy in America template (among other pages) wasn't picking up on it. Just something to look out for. [[User:Magda|—magda (talk)]] 16:24, 13 Aug 2005 (EDT)


I have no idea how OrthodoxWiki got classified as being "cult/occult" by this particular web-service you mention. It may well be that the word "cult" appears in a number of articles, and so some automatic classification occurred. In any event, if you'd like to contact these folks to let them know the real state of things, feel free. —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 08:10, 16 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Far out wsk! Any follow-up? Fr. John
Thansk Bill for all your notes. I'm glad you're excited about OrthodoxWiki! I've been very happy about all the Japanese Orthodox stuff. I've got a friend who's moving to Japan soon (she's now Orthodox and married to a Japanese Orthodox man), and it's been a blessing to see so much about the Japanese Orthodox Church! - Fr. John

An Overdue Response

Hi again, I wanted to respond to your comments below. Sorry for the delay! Thanks for your support and encouragement for this project, and for talking it up. Please greet Fr. Constantine for me. He probably won't remember, but we met awhile ago. Keep up the good work, and keep thinking big for the site. We need vision! Fr. John 14:11, 8 Sep 2005 (EDT)

By the way, I glad you all have started the OrthodoxWiki site, it's among the things we need to do to 'advertize' Orthodoxy. Now we need to get the word out to our people. I attend St Nicholas in Washington and have mentioned the site to a number of 'outward looking' people, but I need to do more. Bill Kosar

Japanese Orthodox

Wow, great work Bill. Where do you find this stuff? Fr. John
P.S. I had the pleasure of serving with Fr. Dennis in Chicago yesterday.

Canadian OCA Hierarchs

Here are a couple of links for succession boxes: list of Canadian bishops and a history of the Archdiocese of Canada (OCA). —magda (talk) 09:10, November 12, 2005 (CST)

Bringing together the pages...

Hi Bill,

I've put Template:Orthodoxyinjapan on all the pages about Japanese Orthodoxy I could find, and also put everything together into Category:Orthodoxy in Japan. I would be grateful if you could write a brief introduction on the category page, then I would like to submit the whole category as a featured article to showcase some of the unique information we have here on OrthodoxWiki. How does all that sound? Thanks! Fr. John

P.S. It would also be wonderful, if you have a chance, if you could work on Timeline of Orthodoxy in Japan. It doesn't have to be extensive, but it would be nice to have something up. Thanks!

Category link

Hi Bill, thanks for bringing this up -- I've added the category to the image. This can be done by going to the image page, clicking edit and adding [[Category:Japanese Orthodox Images]] anywhere in the text of the page. By the way, signatures use a tilde rather than a "'". Hope that helps, and thanks for your work! Fr. John 12:18, December 5, 2005 (CST)

Category:Orthodoxy in Japan

Just so you know, when you add the {{orthodoxyinjapan}} template to an article, Category:Orthodoxy in Japan automatically gets added, so there's no need to include it separately. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 09:57, January 5, 2006 (CST)

Uninhabited islands

I would propose that we take uninhabited islands off the template altogether, and delete those pages... Sorry this comes after your work. —magda (talk) 20:25, January 7, 2006 (CST)

Thanks for your help. —magda (talk) 10:18, January 12, 2006 (CST)

Parish Directory (USA)

Invitation to join discussion at Category talk:Parish Directory (USA). —magda (talk) 11:00, January 31, 2006 (CST)

Ordain / Ordination

When making links, please try to link to the actual article title and not to a redirect. Articles are usually titled as nouns (ordination), rather than verbs (ordain). Some can be tricky, of course, like tonsure, in which the noun and verb form are the same. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 17:22, April 22, 2006 (CDT)

Photos from St. Nicholas in DC

The photos you've uploaded recently of liturgical hardware you note as being "courtesy" of the catehdral in DC, yet you also have them listed as being copyrighted by you (that is, you own the photos). If they're yours, then the "courtesy" should probably be worded some other way (e.g. "Thanks to so-and-so for allowing this photo to be taken" or something like that). "Courtesy" in this context usually means that someone else owns the photo and is letting you use it, so if the cathedral owns those photos, then to put your own name on them for the copyright would be inaccurate. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 15:15, May 7, 2006 (CDT)

Edward of England

There are, AFAIK, only two sainted Edwards in English history, and only one was a martyr. (Edward the Confessor died peacefully.) The Sept. 3 feast is of the translation of the relics of Edward the Martyr. —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 15:41, May 28, 2006 (CDT)

1917-18 Council article

Why not mention this on the article's talk page? I'm sure a collaboration is possible. —Dcn. Andrew talk random contribs 16:48, June 11, 2006 (CDT)

I read the sandbox article, I have not problem if you replace the stub I posted with an actual article. Andrew 10:20, June 12, 2006 (CDT)

Sysop Invite

Dear Bill,

I'd like to invite you to become an OrthodoxWiki sysop. This doesn't require much more time or commitment than you've already demonstrated. You'd be part of our ultra-secret OrthodoxWiki Sysop email list, where we work together to battle wiki-evil and talk about various issues affecting the life of OrthodoxWiki, and once in awhile bounce around ideas about its future. Also, you'd have superpowers on the wiki, allowing you to intervene in edit wars, and otherwise better manage articles. Finally, you'd be a reference point for other users - welcoming them in the name of OrthodoxWiki, and helping folks get the hang of the OrthodoxWiki style. Let me know if you'd like to accept this mission by leaving a note on my talk page or emailing me directly. Thanks, — FrJohn (talk)

Royal/Holy Doors

Hey, sorry about the rude reversion of your change to the Classification of Feasts article. I should have edited it and provided an explanation rather than just using the rollback feature. I wasn't thinking.

The proper name for the doors leading from the nave to the altar is "holy doors". The "royal doors" are actually the doors leading from the narthex to the nave. It is a popular misnomer to call the "holy doors" royal. —Dcn. David talk contribs 23:03, August 11, 2006 (CDT)

Dcn. David, I can't help but think there's more to the story than that. I think here is a good place to push for primary sources and a solid historical account - though it might be more than we can take on at the moment! It seems to me that the conflation of "royal" to holy (after the collapse of the Empire?) also has a layer of symbolic meaning which goes beyond a "popular misnomer." Fr. John
It is interesting that this question came up. We are plagued with numerous names being applied to various Orthodox expressions. Besides our different languages in use, we are also confronted with the names from the Western Christian world. Of course this makes consistency difficult in such a place as Orthodoxwiki. I have been trying to settle the many empty articles under the 'wanted' article and noticed the appearance of Holy Doors and Royal Doors - that I usually use - so the changes! As my knowledge on many of the open articles is very low, having articles and corrections to articles by 'authorities, more than from Wikipedia, would be nice.
I planned to have, at least the empty Door articles, redirected to the Iconostasis article as an immediate improvement. It at least gives a overview and thus a simple explanation. I whole heartly agree with Fr John that we need to travel toward better authories writing articles on many of the complicated subjects, especially better than me!Wsk 20:08, August 12, 2006 (CDT)

Request Photo Use for Wikipedia

Hi, I'm part of a group of users over on Wikipedia who working on importing articles from the Catholic Encyclopedia. The article I'm working on now is about the aër. I noticed that the article here on OrthodoxWiki (Aer) has a picture you provided (Image:Aer_on_a_Chalice_and_Discos.jpg). I would love to be able to include the picture in the article on Wikipedia as well, but notice that the copyright only allows it to be used on this site. Would you mind granting permission for it's use on Wikipedia as well? Thanks, Kylef81 (wp) Kylef81 19:26, August 17, 2006 (CDT)

Just something to keep in mind - Wikipedia doesn't really want closed-license photos, no? Would this mean that you're asking Wsk to reissue it under the GFDL (or at least a CC license)? — FrJohn (talk)
Kyle and Fr. John; I've changes the copywrite notice of the Aer image to GFDL so that Kyle can use it. Fr. John, I'll be changing the other images as I have some time. Wsk 12:10, August 19, 2006 (CDT)
Thanks! I've added the image to the article on Wikipedia. Kylef81 13:24, August 19, 2006 (CDT)


I'm not really back. Just fixing a few things I noticed. —Dcn. Andrew talk contribs 15:10, October 9, 2006 (CDT)


Do you want to help me with my wiki wikireligion? There are a lot of articles that need to be made. --Sir James Paul 17:28, February 4, 2007 (PST)

This may seem like a little bit of a odd question but do you have a wikipedia, meta wiki, wikiquote, witionary, wikispecies, or wikipedia simple english account? I feel as if I have seen you somewhere other than here. Have a nice week and god bless you and every one you know:) --Sir James Paul 16:52, March 17, 2007 (PDT)