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Common Sense, or Anti-Greek Madness??
:: I don't doubt for a second your commitment to Orthodoxwiki. But you have given me cause to wonder about the nature of that commitment. You do seem to have a blind-spot to the peculiarities of your own Antiochian-convert position, which you rather glibly project onto 'the minds of most English speakers'. In this discussion, you have been promoting the views of one minority group in Orthodoxy as if it were the default-position of speakers of the English language. This has led you to repeatedly avoid using the title by which ''your own Patriarch'' calls himself. That should surely alert you to the fact that there is something in your position which is not above board. [[User:Seminarist|Seminarist]] 19:27, May 20, 2008 (UTC)
::: Alas, this is neither the first or last time in which I have been accused of having a hidden agenda. I must admit to some amusement at surveying such accusations with regard to their own diametric opposition when taken together! I have described myself variously as "Greek Orthodox," "Eastern Orthodox," "Orthodox Christian, "Russian Orthodox," "Antiochian Orthodox," "Orthodox Catholic," "traditional Christian," etc. I raise eyebrows just as much when I chant ''Eti kai eti'' as much as I do with ''AiDan wa aiDan'', ''Paki i paki'' or ''Iara si iara'' (and occasionally even "Again and again"!). I've also been called a lot of things: Hellenophile, Russophile, Hellenophobe, Russophobe, anti-cradle, anti-convert, modernist, traditionalist, fascist, liberal, etc., etc. They're all quite silly. One might also wonder perhaps whether you have the Hellenophilia of the sort which identifies Orthodoxy with Hellenism. In either case, one would be off the mark with regard to OrthodoxWiki. ''Ad hominem'' is always pointless here. Let's avoid it altogether, shall we? ::: Anyway, it's not a question of "converts" in the Antiochian Archdiocese. ''Greek'' isn't in the official archdiocesan title, and I think we can safely say that the title wasn't dreamt up by converts! It doesn't matter who came up with it, anyway. (''Ad hominem'' once again!) What matters is what the most common and useful reference term is.
::: As I said, I'd be willing to accept ''Greek Orthodox'' if that's what the consensus is. I'll even fight against my "Anti-Greek Madness" and make the change myself! &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 21:20, May 20, 2008 (UTC)
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