Difference between revisions of "Talk:Liturgy of St. Gregory"

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We need to be clear about this. The Liturgy of St Gregory was based on the Tridentine -- it is full of materials that were not present in the "ancient" Roman Mass. Nor is it identical to the liturgy approved by Moscow for Overbeck, nor with what the Polish Church used, etc. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 17:38, February 13, 2008 (PST)
 
We need to be clear about this. The Liturgy of St Gregory was based on the Tridentine -- it is full of materials that were not present in the "ancient" Roman Mass. Nor is it identical to the liturgy approved by Moscow for Overbeck, nor with what the Polish Church used, etc. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 17:38, February 13, 2008 (PST)
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== Difference between the Orthodox Missal and the St Andrew's Service Book ==
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Since a point has been made on a couple of different pages now that most parishes of the AWRV use the ''Orthodox Missal'' rather than the ''St Andrew's Service Book'', perhaps the person making the point could elaborate on the differences. What significant differences are there? --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] 17:52, February 13, 2008 (PST)

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Uh, I'm rather new to Wiki editing, but this article needs a little help! I'm unsure why, for instance, "The Preparation" links to the article for the Byzantine "proskomede" and "Offertory" links to the "Anaphora" article. In fact, the only rough equivalent to the Byzantine prothesis in the Roman Rite is the Offertory (the elements are prepared and offered in the middle of the Mass, not the beginning). Likewise, the Roman Mass's "Canon" is the equivalent of the "Anaphora" of the Eastern Liturgies.

Well, it sounds like you're the person to help! This article is rather new and has barely been touched at all. Plus, I'd guess that most people here aren't familiar at all with Western liturgics. Please feel free to change the links. And to add a cleanup tag, just put in {{cleanup}} at the beginning. Oh, and signing your comments with 4 ~s makes the discussion pages so much clearer. Thanks. Gabriela 20:27, January 3, 2007 (PST)

I think that the internal links in the two instances mentioned should simply be removed unless a small section is added to the Byzantine article noting differences in the Western practices. Or one could simply removed the links and add content to the outline in the Western article. It isn't uniformly the case, however, that the preparation in the Western rites is done at the time of the offertory. Some Roman religious usages did the preparation before the mass began, and the ROCOR version of the Roman liturgy prepared by Dom Augustine Whitfield and others provides for either practice. Fr Lev 05:22, January 4, 2007 (PST)

Making up history

We need to be clear about this. The Liturgy of St Gregory was based on the Tridentine -- it is full of materials that were not present in the "ancient" Roman Mass. Nor is it identical to the liturgy approved by Moscow for Overbeck, nor with what the Polish Church used, etc. --Fr Lev 17:38, February 13, 2008 (PST)

Difference between the Orthodox Missal and the St Andrew's Service Book

Since a point has been made on a couple of different pages now that most parishes of the AWRV use the Orthodox Missal rather than the St Andrew's Service Book, perhaps the person making the point could elaborate on the differences. What significant differences are there? --Fr Lev 17:52, February 13, 2008 (PST)