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ISTM very easy (as I did when I first looked at it) to assume that this is an article about the [[Western Rite]]'s Rite of St Gregory.  Perhaps it could be renamed?  Additionally, it needs to be expanded - specifically, in how the latin-rite RCC interacted with the Orthodox Church; without this, it's more suitable on Wikipedia, or alternatively, as a subsection of the [[Roman Catholic Church]] article. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 03:50, August 31, 2006 (CDT)
 
ISTM very easy (as I did when I first looked at it) to assume that this is an article about the [[Western Rite]]'s Rite of St Gregory.  Perhaps it could be renamed?  Additionally, it needs to be expanded - specifically, in how the latin-rite RCC interacted with the Orthodox Church; without this, it's more suitable on Wikipedia, or alternatively, as a subsection of the [[Roman Catholic Church]] article. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 03:50, August 31, 2006 (CDT)
: That particular ease of confusion is the very reason that this article should exist under the "[[Latin Rite]]" title. The Orthodox [[Western Rite]] is ''not'' properly called the Latin Rite.  As such, Orthodox who are confused about this should have ready access to clarification. This article makes this distinction very clearly with the existing sentence, "The Latin Rite should not be confused with the Western Rite, which is a strand of Orthodox Christian worship based on the liturgical traditions of the ancient pre-Schism Orthodox Church of the West." The intersection of the Latin Rite with Orthodoxy is historically extremely important, in that incursions and impositions of Latin Rite traditions, canons, and theology by the Vatican and local RCC heirarchs upon Eastern churches were at the heart of the return of [[Eastern Rite Catholic]] churches to Holy Orthodoxy. The Orthodoxwiki articles on Metr. [[Orestes Chornock]], St. [[Alexis Toth]], the [[OCA]], [[Filioque]], [[celibacy]], and the [[American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Diocese]] make this quite apparent. [[User:Jerry picker|Jerry picker]] 09:09, August 31, 2006 (CDT)
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: That particular ease of confusion is the very reason that this article should exist under the "[[Latin Rite]]" title. The Orthodox [[Western Rite]] is ''not'' properly called the Latin Rite.  As such, Orthodox who are confused about this should have ready access to clarification. This article makes this distinction very clearly with the existing sentence, "The Latin Rite should not be confused with the Western Rite, which is a strand of Orthodox Christian worship based on the liturgical traditions of the ancient pre-Schism Orthodox Church of the West." The intersection of the Latin Rite with Orthodoxy is historically extremely important, in that incursions and impositions of Latin Rite traditions, canons, and theology by the Vatican and local RCC heirarchs upon Eastern churches were at the heart of the return of [[Eastern Rite Catholic]] churches to Holy Orthodoxy. The Orthodoxwiki articles on Metr. [[Orestes (Chornock) of Agathoniketa|Orestes Chornock]], St. [[Alexis Toth]], the [[OCA]], [[Filioque]], [[celibacy]], and the [[American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Diocese]] make this quite apparent. [[User:Jerry picker|Jerry picker]] 09:09, August 31, 2006 (CDT)
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::No dispute that there have been interactions between RCC-Latin Rite and Orthodoxy - but these need to be added to the article ASAP (even as a stub).
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::Additionally, there are multiple rites within the Western Rite - The [[Liturgy of St. Gregory the Great]] being the one that I was referring to with the confusion.  I will put in a disambiguation referral at the top of the page, so that if there is confusion, it can be easily corrected.

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Latin/Western Confusion

ISTM very easy (as I did when I first looked at it) to assume that this is an article about the Western Rite's Rite of St Gregory. Perhaps it could be renamed? Additionally, it needs to be expanded - specifically, in how the latin-rite RCC interacted with the Orthodox Church; without this, it's more suitable on Wikipedia, or alternatively, as a subsection of the Roman Catholic Church article. — edited by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 03:50, August 31, 2006 (CDT)

That particular ease of confusion is the very reason that this article should exist under the "Latin Rite" title. The Orthodox Western Rite is not properly called the Latin Rite. As such, Orthodox who are confused about this should have ready access to clarification. This article makes this distinction very clearly with the existing sentence, "The Latin Rite should not be confused with the Western Rite, which is a strand of Orthodox Christian worship based on the liturgical traditions of the ancient pre-Schism Orthodox Church of the West." The intersection of the Latin Rite with Orthodoxy is historically extremely important, in that incursions and impositions of Latin Rite traditions, canons, and theology by the Vatican and local RCC heirarchs upon Eastern churches were at the heart of the return of Eastern Rite Catholic churches to Holy Orthodoxy. The Orthodoxwiki articles on Metr. Orestes Chornock, St. Alexis Toth, the OCA, Filioque, celibacy, and the American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Diocese make this quite apparent. Jerry picker 09:09, August 31, 2006 (CDT)
No dispute that there have been interactions between RCC-Latin Rite and Orthodoxy - but these need to be added to the article ASAP (even as a stub).
Additionally, there are multiple rites within the Western Rite - The Liturgy of St. Gregory the Great being the one that I was referring to with the confusion. I will put in a disambiguation referral at the top of the page, so that if there is confusion, it can be easily corrected.