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and againWhether St Gregory should be ascribed authorship to the Presanctified Liturgy
:Nor is there much question St. Gregory the Great had little-to-nothing to do with the Presanctified Liturgy of the Eastern Church. The way his name got appended to this text is outlined in the indicated pages of Uspensky. One can also turn to [http://books.google.com/books?id=9ffpTpp2oicC&pg=PA132&lpg=PA132&dq=The+Liturgy+of+the+Presanctified+Gifts+is+traditionally+considered+to+be+the+work+of+the+sixth-century+pope,+Saint+Gregory+of+Rome.&source=web&ots=W1R0aZOQ6m&sig=jkKGIycwXryF2goZ5Z8w8lA4Z0g&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result ''The Year of Grace of the Lord''], p. 132. Even [http://www.oca.org/OCChapter.asp?SID=2&ID=69 the website of one Orthodox jurisdiction states], "The Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts is traditionally considered to be the work of the sixth-century pope, Saint Gregory of Rome. The present service, however, is obviously the inspired liturgical creation of Christian Byzantium." If anyone is interested in this argument, [http://westernorthodox.blogspot.com/2006/02/presanctified-liturgy-of-st-gregory.html this link may also be interesting].
:Not to pile on, but you have talked yourself into a twist: on the one hand, you insist on keeping his name appended to the Presanctified Liturgy, to which St. Gregory made no contribution whatever, but you refuse to hear the Church call the other text "the Liturgy of St. Gregory," although he made significant contributions to it. --[[User:Willibrord|Willibrord]] 19:33, August 23, 2008 (UTC)
 
I wasn't aware the vicariate consulted St Gregory 14 centuries after his repose, but I am glad to see he is still working on new redactions! Kudos! I see that you wish to not read ANYTHING I said, which was based upon factual standards. In case you haven't noticed, I am trying to include your POV while remaining factual. By contrast, you are deleting POV's and ignoring fact.
 
The quote above says NOTHING about the authorship of the liturgy, save that traditionally St Gregory is considered its author. NOTHING supports the idea of it being 'erroneous' and you don't have a basis for the claim. --[[User:JosephSuaiden|JosephSuaiden]] 19:45, August 23, 2008 (UTC)
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