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#I remember being taught (in a Roman Catholic University) that the "Great Schism" was when there was one pope in Avignon and another in Rome. This usage is worthy of a mention, for the sake of clarity.  
 
#I remember being taught (in a Roman Catholic University) that the "Great Schism" was when there was one pope in Avignon and another in Rome. This usage is worthy of a mention, for the sake of clarity.  
 
#I'm not sure how deeply we should jump into the details of the debates about, e.g. the Filioque here - these things should be referred to separate pages for all the nitty gritty details. I do think we need to discuss or survey some of the many different ways of constructing the schism. It's not an easy thing to pin down: Charlemage? 1056? 1204? etc. We should discuss different evaluations of what was primary, and so on. I think that kind of perspective would be most useful here, rather than a simple repeat of, e.g., what's in Bishop Kallistos' ''The Orthodox Church''. Other thoughts? [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
 
#I'm not sure how deeply we should jump into the details of the debates about, e.g. the Filioque here - these things should be referred to separate pages for all the nitty gritty details. I do think we need to discuss or survey some of the many different ways of constructing the schism. It's not an easy thing to pin down: Charlemage? 1056? 1204? etc. We should discuss different evaluations of what was primary, and so on. I think that kind of perspective would be most useful here, rather than a simple repeat of, e.g., what's in Bishop Kallistos' ''The Orthodox Church''. Other thoughts? [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]
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The idea that I'm going to do with this article is to give a general overview on some of the issues surrounding the G.E.S.  So in a sense the structure is the same as Bishop Kallistos' ''The Orthodox Church''.  But in the section on when exactly did it occur, I will try to talk about what issues were important.  This can also continue into the other sections afterward (the attempts to reconcile and the continuing progress/regress).  It's going to be a huge undertaking (in addition to my thesis) but I think it can be done.  I'll continue to tweak it here and there as time goes on and I may end up with something different.  I hope that clarifies some things.  -[[User:Fedya911|Fedya]]

Revision as of 05:31, April 7, 2005

The year link was copied from the filioque article--should that link likewise be removed? --magda 15:25, 7 Feb 2005 (CST)

Yep. I don't think we're likely to have enough articles here for a particular year that would justify a year having its own article. (The Filioque article also needs some serious work.) --Rdr. Andrew 15:34, 7 Feb 2005 (CST)

This is a major article. I suspect it will be under development for some time. A couple notes for the moment:

  1. I remember being taught (in a Roman Catholic University) that the "Great Schism" was when there was one pope in Avignon and another in Rome. This usage is worthy of a mention, for the sake of clarity.
  2. I'm not sure how deeply we should jump into the details of the debates about, e.g. the Filioque here - these things should be referred to separate pages for all the nitty gritty details. I do think we need to discuss or survey some of the many different ways of constructing the schism. It's not an easy thing to pin down: Charlemage? 1056? 1204? etc. We should discuss different evaluations of what was primary, and so on. I think that kind of perspective would be most useful here, rather than a simple repeat of, e.g., what's in Bishop Kallistos' The Orthodox Church. Other thoughts? Fr. John

The idea that I'm going to do with this article is to give a general overview on some of the issues surrounding the G.E.S. So in a sense the structure is the same as Bishop Kallistos' The Orthodox Church. But in the section on when exactly did it occur, I will try to talk about what issues were important. This can also continue into the other sections afterward (the attempts to reconcile and the continuing progress/regress). It's going to be a huge undertaking (in addition to my thesis) but I think it can be done. I'll continue to tweak it here and there as time goes on and I may end up with something different. I hope that clarifies some things. -Fedya