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:"Doomed to abstinence"? From what tradition does that concept arise?
:I’d also like to revise my earlier statement: No synods or Orthodox theologians that I know of have expressed this position. But could you find a single Orthodox bishop that would excommunicate someone for holding this position? Surely the lack of such a bishop is evidence for this position being a valid Orthodox dissenting position.--[[User:Gmharvey|Gmharvey]] ([[User talk:Gmharvey|talk]]) 02:55, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
For now, since I am short on time this weekend, you have some odd notions about theology and heresy! Just because no synod has endorsed a position does not mean it is therefore consistent with Orthodox theology, praxis, or tradition. Bishops don't excommunicate people for holding a theologoumenon, but for stubbornly teaching something that is explicitly contrary to the defined Faith. I am not saying #1 is heretical, only that I don't see it as a recognizably Orthodox position. It posits a view of contraception that, despite its biologically deterministic view of natural law, even the Roman Catholic Church doesn't hold. And you haven't offered any evidence that it is held as ''a'' view within Orthodox tradition beyond yourself and a few people you know. OrthodoxWiki is not about expressing purely private opinions, but about documenting -- with sources whenever possible -- Orthodox Christianity. There must be at least a handful of Orthodox Christians in the world who are flat-earthers, or who are 9/11 truthers, or who hold that we never landed on the moon, or that it is immoral to wear tie-dye jeans (a fundamentalist school near me has held that), but none of those are recognizably views held in the Orthodox tradition, even if a bishop would not excommunicate someone for holding them. --[[User:Fr Lev|Fr Lev]] ([[User talk:Fr Lev|talk]]) 11:42, June 30, 2018 (UTC)
