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If you doubt that the Sarum Rite is pre-schism, please address it on the Sarum rite page. The general understanding of virtually all historians on the rite is that it is easily traced to the 11th century.--[[User:JosephSuaiden|JosephSuaiden]] 18:32, February 16, 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, I believe Fr. Andrew Damick wrote to the contrary on OrthodoxWiki. It's hardly a new objection, much less is this pre-Schism claim "the general understanding of virtually all historians." --[[User:Willibrord|Willibrord]] 18:40, February 16, 2009 (UTC)