Talk:Incorruptibility - Revision history

Jerry picker at 22:26, August 28, 2006

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Jerry picker at 18:06, August 26, 2006

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Jerry picker at 18:05, August 26, 2006

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Jerry picker at 18:04, August 26, 2006

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Arbible at 17:25, August 26, 2006

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FrJohn at 15:38, August 25, 2006

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FrJohn at 15:37, August 25, 2006

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Jerry picker at 23:59, August 24, 2006

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FrJohn at 23:34, August 24, 2006

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It's worth noting that although in some places in the Orthodox world incorruptibility has been associated with sanctity, in other places it has indicated the opposite! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])

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	:: This link shows an heiromonk of Mount Athos holding the bones of a fellow reposed monk whose flesh has returned to the dust. It is a marvelous image. [[User:Jerry picker\|Jerry picker]] 13:06, August 26, 2006 (CDT) http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/cgi-bin/pod/PhotoOfTheDay.cgi?month=01&day=12&year=05		:: This link shows an heiromonk of Mount Athos holding the bones of a fellow reposed monk whose flesh has returned to the dust. It is a marvelous image. [[User:Jerry picker\|Jerry picker]] 13:06, August 26, 2006 (CDT) http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/cgi-bin/pod/PhotoOfTheDay.cgi?month=01&day=12&year=05
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 ::[http://catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0839.htm This Catholic article about 'The Question of Incorruptibility'] also mentions that "''that the devil too can induce the "sweet odor," so this sign must be corroborated by the overall holiness of the life of the person.''" --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 12:25, August 26, 2006 (CDT)
-:: This link shows an heiromonk of Mount Athos holding the bones of a fellow reposed monk whose flesh has returned to the dust. It is a marvelous image. http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/cgi-bin/pod/PhotoOfTheDay.cgi?month=01&day=12&year=05
+:: This link shows an heiromonk of Mount Athos holding the bones of a fellow reposed monk whose flesh has returned to the dust. It is a marvelous image. [[User:Jerry picker|Jerry picker]] 13:06, August 26, 2006 (CDT) http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/cgi-bin/pod/PhotoOfTheDay.cgi?month=01&day=12&year=05
-[http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/pod/pictures/sm_wallpaper/NGM1983_12p740-1.jpg photo]
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 :: This link shows an heiromonk of Mount Athos holding the bones of a fellow reposed monk whose flesh has returned to the dust. It is a marvelous image. http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/cgi-bin/pod/PhotoOfTheDay.cgi?month=01&day=12&year=05
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	::[http://catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0839.htm This Catholic article about 'The Question of Incorruptibility'] also mentions that "''that the devil too can induce the "sweet odor," so this sign must be corroborated by the overall holiness of the life of the person.''" --[[User:Arbible\|Arbible]] 12:25, August 26, 2006 (CDT)		::[http://catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0839.htm This Catholic article about 'The Question of Incorruptibility'] also mentions that "''that the devil too can induce the "sweet odor," so this sign must be corroborated by the overall holiness of the life of the person.''" --[[User:Arbible\|Arbible]] 12:25, August 26, 2006 (CDT)
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		+	:: This link shows an heiromonk of Mount Athos holding the bones of a fellow reposed monk whose flesh has returned to the dust. It is a marvelous image. http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/cgi-bin/pod/PhotoOfTheDay.cgi?month=01&day=12&year=05
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	:Yep, that's a great reference. Not sure about the vampire thing, but I've heard that on Mt. Athos, the expectation is that the saints will decompose quickly, so that their bones can be dug up and placed with his brothers, e.g.:		:Yep, that's a great reference. Not sure about the vampire thing, but I've heard that on Mt. Athos, the expectation is that the saints will decompose quickly, so that their bones can be dug up and placed with his brothers, e.g.:
	:''"Near the railing on the wall was a basket with the skull and bones of a monk who , had died three years ago and had been dug up. His name and the place where he lived and the date of his death were written on the skull. The monks are dug up after three years and their bones exposed that way for a week. Then they are put in a chamber nearby. We looked in and saw quantities of skulls and bones."'' [http://www.roca.org/OA/110/110k.htm] — [[User:FrJohn\|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])		:''"Near the railing on the wall was a basket with the skull and bones of a monk who , had died three years ago and had been dug up. His name and the place where he lived and the date of his death were written on the skull. The monks are dug up after three years and their bones exposed that way for a week. Then they are put in a chamber nearby. We looked in and saw quantities of skulls and bones."'' [http://www.roca.org/OA/110/110k.htm] — [[User:FrJohn\|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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		+	::[http://catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0839.htm This Catholic article about 'The Question of Incorruptibility'] also mentions that "''that the devil too can induce the "sweet odor," so this sign must be corroborated by the overall holiness of the life of the person.''" --[[User:Arbible\|Arbible]] 12:25, August 26, 2006 (CDT)

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	:Yep, that's a great reference. Not sure about the vampire thing, but I've heard that on Mt. Athos, the expectation is that the saints will decompose quickly, so that their bones can be dug up and placed with his brothers, e.g.:		:Yep, that's a great reference. Not sure about the vampire thing, but I've heard that on Mt. Athos, the expectation is that the saints will decompose quickly, so that their bones can be dug up and placed with his brothers, e.g.:
−	::"Near the railing on the wall was a basket with the skull and bones of a monk who , had died three years ago and had been dug up. His name and the place where he lived and the date of his death were written on the skull. The monks are dug up after three years and their bones exposed that way for a week. Then they are put in a chamber nearby. We looked in and saw quantities of skulls and bones." [http://www.roca.org/OA/110/110k.htm] — [[User:FrJohn\|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])	+	:''"Near the railing on the wall was a basket with the skull and bones of a monk who , had died three years ago and had been dug up. His name and the place where he lived and the date of his death were written on the skull. The monks are dug up after three years and their bones exposed that way for a week. Then they are put in a chamber nearby. We looked in and saw quantities of skulls and bones."'' [http://www.roca.org/OA/110/110k.htm] — [[User:FrJohn\|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])

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	Yes, as I understand it, in some parts of the world incorruptibility has been associated with beliefs in vampires or the influence of evil spirits upon the natural order.		Yes, as I understand it, in some parts of the world incorruptibility has been associated with beliefs in vampires or the influence of evil spirits upon the natural order.
	In Dostoyevsky's ''The Brothers Karamazov'', the repose of the saintly monk Zossima was shortly followed by his accelerated decomposition, which caused a great consternation within the monastery and in the outside community, who appeared to have expected his incorruptibility. [[User:Jerry picker\|Jerry picker]] 18:59, August 24, 2006 (CDT)		In Dostoyevsky's ''The Brothers Karamazov'', the repose of the saintly monk Zossima was shortly followed by his accelerated decomposition, which caused a great consternation within the monastery and in the outside community, who appeared to have expected his incorruptibility. [[User:Jerry picker\|Jerry picker]] 18:59, August 24, 2006 (CDT)
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		+	:Yep, that's a great reference. Not sure about the vampire thing, but I've heard that on Mt. Athos, the expectation is that the saints will decompose quickly, so that their bones can be dug up and placed with his brothers, e.g.:
		+	::"Near the railing on the wall was a basket with the skull and bones of a monk who , had died three years ago and had been dug up. His name and the place where he lived and the date of his death were written on the skull. The monks are dug up after three years and their bones exposed that way for a week. Then they are put in a chamber nearby. We looked in and saw quantities of skulls and bones." [http://www.roca.org/OA/110/110k.htm] — [[User:FrJohn\|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])

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	It's worth noting that although in some places in the Orthodox world incorruptibility has been associated with sanctity, in other places it has indicated the opposite! — [[User:FrJohn\|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])		It's worth noting that although in some places in the Orthodox world incorruptibility has been associated with sanctity, in other places it has indicated the opposite! — [[User:FrJohn\|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])
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		+	Yes, as I understand it, in some parts of the world incorruptibility has been associated with beliefs in vampires or the influence of evil spirits upon the natural order.
		+	In Dostoyevsky's ''The Brothers Karamazov'', the repose of the saintly monk Zossima was shortly followed by his accelerated decomposition, which caused a great consternation within the monastery and in the outside community, who appeared to have expected his incorruptibility. [[User:Jerry picker\|Jerry picker]] 18:59, August 24, 2006 (CDT)