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 Of course, that scientists do not really know what's happening or have little evidence originates with the sensational press and from sources whose writers do not know how to read results from environmental tests.  The logic of turning a blind eye toward the problem as a form of apophaticism is a weak analogy, while having the capacity of releasing toxins into the environment is a real danger to all.  It is wiser to caution about the impetus of capitalization and profit over the stewardship of the planet of which we are to keep watch.  A stewardship view or _oikonomia_ of the planet is a step in the direction of holiness.  Granted, it may be a fallen planet but it is all we have in the material world, and as sacramental Christians we can see the divine blessing in the material.  So, what should we do?
-It would help to give heed to the reality of global warming or climate change as the evidence is clear.  Even under US administrations that deny this, the government agencies such as NASA present that it is not only happening, but since the Industrial Revolution is unprecedented.  https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/  Judging the graph that the website includes and evaluating that it is "undetermined" that humanity is a prime cause for this would not follow, unless one were an environmental scientist subsidized by fossil fuel companies.
+It would help to give heed to the reality of global warming or climate change as the evidence is clear.  Even under US administrations that deny this, the government agencies such as NASA present that it is not only happening, but since the Industrial Revolution is unprecedented.  https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/  Judging the graph that the website includes and evaluating that it is "undetermined" that humanity is a prime cause for this would not follow, unless one were an environmental scientist subsidized by fossil fuel companies. https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-53640382
 Historically, corporate deception about such issues as the ozone problems in the 1980s is just one of several such issues in the modern world, and today it is no different.  https://www.ucs.org/climate/accountability  Fortunately, we do have those who understand this problem quite well and there is no serious debate withing the scientific community about it.  https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/scientific-consensus/  Sadly, the Orthodox population, like any other demographic of society, have those who believe that a democratic republic should hear both sides.  This is good, generally, but not when the evidence is so heavily tilted against the naysayers.

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 ==Ethics Applied==
-Of course, that scientists do not really know what's happening or have little evidence originates with the sensational press and from sources whose writers do not know how to read results from environmental tests.  The logic of turning a blind eye toward the problem as a form of apophaticism is a weak analogy, while having the capacity of releasing toxins into the environment.  It is wiser to caution about the impetus of capitalization and profit over the stewardship of the planet of which we are to keep watch.  A stewardship view or _oikonomia_ of the planet is a step in the direction of holiness.  Granted, it may be a fallen planet but it is all we have in the material world, and as sacramental Christians we can see the divine blessing in the material.  So, what should we do?
+Of course, that scientists do not really know what's happening or have little evidence originates with the sensational press and from sources whose writers do not know how to read results from environmental tests.  The logic of turning a blind eye toward the problem as a form of apophaticism is a weak analogy, while having the capacity of releasing toxins into the environment is a real danger to all.  It is wiser to caution about the impetus of capitalization and profit over the stewardship of the planet of which we are to keep watch.  A stewardship view or _oikonomia_ of the planet is a step in the direction of holiness.  Granted, it may be a fallen planet but it is all we have in the material world, and as sacramental Christians we can see the divine blessing in the material.  So, what should we do?
 It would help to give heed to the reality of global warming or climate change as the evidence is clear.  Even under US administrations that deny this, the government agencies such as NASA present that it is not only happening, but since the Industrial Revolution is unprecedented.  https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/  Judging the graph that the website includes and evaluating that it is "undetermined" that humanity is a prime cause for this would not follow, unless one were an environmental scientist subsidized by fossil fuel companies.
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 Application of morals on this topic?  First, the call for a proper economy that sees the divine in all nature and the human interaction with it.  Do we understand that greenfly also carries a spark of the divine or do we dismiss all species besides our own as unworthy of consideration?  Next, the concrete position on mitigating pollution as much as possible within an industrial-technological society is action that the church can accept, and could see such action as a blessing. https://faceofgodfilm.com/the-bishops-declaration-on-climate-change-full-text/  Lastly, to break beyond our confessional walls to affirm these points takes not only interested clergy but also artists, and examples exist as to what has been done so far.  https://faceofgodfilm.com/
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 ==Ethics Applied==
-Of course, the logic of turning a blind eye toward the problem while having the capacity of releasing toxins into the environment is incorrect, and it is wiser to caution about the impetus of capitalization and profit over the stewardship of the planet of which we are to keep watch.  A stewardship view or _oikonomia_ of the planet is a step in the direction of holiness.  Granted, it may be a fallen planet but it is all we have in the material world, and as sacramental Christians we can see the divine blessing in the material.  So, what should we do?
+Of course, that scientists do not really know what's happening or have little evidence originates with the sensational press and from sources whose writers do not know how to read results from environmental tests.  The logic of turning a blind eye toward the problem as a form of apophaticism is a weak analogy, while having the capacity of releasing toxins into the environment.  It is wiser to caution about the impetus of capitalization and profit over the stewardship of the planet of which we are to keep watch.  A stewardship view or _oikonomia_ of the planet is a step in the direction of holiness.  Granted, it may be a fallen planet but it is all we have in the material world, and as sacramental Christians we can see the divine blessing in the material.  So, what should we do?
 It would help to give heed to the reality of global warming or climate change as the evidence is clear.  Even under US administrations that deny this, the government agencies such as NASA present that it is not only happening, but since the Industrial Revolution is unprecedented.  https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/  Judging the graph that the website includes and evaluating that it is "undetermined" that humanity is a prime cause for this would not follow, unless one were an environmental scientist subsidized by fossil fuel companies.

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 One can perhaps understand, in light of this, why the founding fathers of the United States so strongly emphasized the separation between Church and State.  When knowledge is subjected to ways of thinking, it is the truth that suffers for the sake of the idea.  Perhaps it would be a positive step to say that there should be a separation between science and political or economic ideology. In fact this may abolish the need for a separation of Church and State.  If members of either the Church or State approach one another in love and a desire for the truth, and not the fulfillment of what one wants or doesn't want from the other, one will realize that Church and State should not be seen as conflicting ideologies, but as a relation between two often overlapping communities.
 ==Ethics Applied==
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 Application of morals on this topic?  First, the call for a proper economy that sees the divine in all nature and the human interaction with it.  Do we understand that greenfly also carries a spark of the divine or do we dismiss all species besides our own as unworthy of consideration?  Next, the concrete position on mitigating pollution as much as possible within an industrial-technological society is action that the church can accept, and could see such action as a blessing. https://faceofgodfilm.com/the-bishops-declaration-on-climate-change-full-text/  Lastly, to break beyond our confessional walls to affirm these points takes not only interested clergy but also artists, and examples exist as to what has been done so far.  https://faceofgodfilm.com/
 ==References==

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-The logic of turning a blind eye toward the problem while having the capacity of releasing toxins into the environment is clear, and it is wiser to caution the impetus of capitalization and profit over the stewardship of the planet of which we are to keep watch over what was given.
+Of course, the logic of turning a blind eye toward the problem while having the capacity of releasing toxins into the environment is incorrect, and it is wiser to caution about the impetus of capitalization and profit over the stewardship of the planet of which we are to keep watch.  A stewardship view or _oikonomia_ of the planet is a step in the direction of holiness.  Granted, it may be a fallen planet but it is all we have in the material world, and as sacramental Christians we can see the divine blessing in the material.  So, what should we do?
 ==Apophaticism, Ascesis, and Nepsis==

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	One can perhaps understand, in light of this, why the founding fathers of the United States so strongly emphasized the separation between Church and State. When knowledge is subjected to ways of thinking, it is the truth that suffers for the sake of the idea. Perhaps it would be a positive step to say that there should be a separation between science and political or economic ideology. In fact this may abolish the need for a separation of Church and State. If members of either the Church or State approach one another in love and a desire for the truth, and not the fulfillment of what one wants or doesn't want from the other, one will realize that Church and State should not be seen as conflicting ideologies, but as a relation between two often overlapping communities.		One can perhaps understand, in light of this, why the founding fathers of the United States so strongly emphasized the separation between Church and State. When knowledge is subjected to ways of thinking, it is the truth that suffers for the sake of the idea. Perhaps it would be a positive step to say that there should be a separation between science and political or economic ideology. In fact this may abolish the need for a separation of Church and State. If members of either the Church or State approach one another in love and a desire for the truth, and not the fulfillment of what one wants or doesn't want from the other, one will realize that Church and State should not be seen as conflicting ideologies, but as a relation between two often overlapping communities.
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		+	The logic of turning a blind eye toward the problem while having the capacity of releasing toxins into the environment is clear, and it is wiser to caution the impetus of capitalization and profit over the stewardship of the planet of which we are to keep watch over what was given.

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 ''"...our generation has the honor of being that part of human history which for the first time is witnessing to the ability of humanity to destroy itself completely either by a nuclear event or by ecological contamination and disequilibrium.  Sheer self-interest for the world's survival and society's well being may finally force a solution to the specter of either atomic or ecological destruction."
-&mdash;Fr. John Romanides [http://romanity.org/htm/rom.02.en.the_cure_of_the_neurobiological_sickness_of_rel.04.htm]
+&mdash;Fr. [[John S. Romanides|John Romanides]] [http://romanity.org/htm/rom.02.en.the_cure_of_the_neurobiological_sickness_of_rel.04.htm]
 Science is in fact the pursuit of knowledge, fueled by the desire to know, to understand, and to make sense of ourselves and our environment.  This desire might itself be motivated by economic, ideological, or selfless interest, but in the end the success of the scientist is in his ability to say, "I know."  In turn, this new knowledge leads to developments which are the basis of technological and economic growth.  Investment from this economic growth, the increase in knowledge, and use of new technology provide the energy that advances science.  One might conceptualize science as an ascending spiral, always going around, looking for the "new knowledge," and when the new knowledge is gained there is an ascent.  This ascent is signified by the impact of this new knowledge.

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-How should the Orthodox Church respond to the debate concerning global warming?  The answer to this question is an ancient one.  First, as was already mentioned, science has much to learn from the apophatic approach of Orthodox theology.  Second, the [[asceticism|ascetic]] restraint of the Orthodox Church is the solution to many of the world's problems:  overpopulation, drug abuse, and even potential problems, if, for example, global warming is man-induced.  Third, one must be watchful.  There is a danger that one might be so concerned that he is burning his food he does not realize that his house is on fire.  As the issue of global warming is being debated and billions of dollars are being spent, the leading cause of death worldwide is lack of clean drinking water.  There are innumerable preventable deaths occurring on a daily basis.  "Preventable" meaning there ''is'' knowledge and there ''are'' cures or solutions, of which hundreds of millions of people could benefit, practically, not in theory.  It would also do well to remember that the Orthodox understanding of ethics is not strictly moral, but also ontological.  So, as we debate the consequences of potential global warming, what destruction, not just physical, is being wrought on humankind by science and technology that is catering to man's every desire to know and to do?  What is the impact of a nation that has been subjected to billions of images of violence from youth?  Humanity, it seems, no longer seeks self-divination through eating from a tree, or building a tower to heaven, but through this modern monument of science and technology.  Man is gathered at the base of this monument debating on the existence of a crack in the wall when the roof is falling on their heads.
+How should the Orthodox Church respond to the debate concerning global warming?  The answer to this question is an ancient one.  First, as was already mentioned, science has much to learn from the [[apophatic theology|apophatic]] approach of Orthodox theology.  Second, the [[asceticism|ascetic]] restraint of the Orthodox Church is the solution to many of the world's problems:  overpopulation, drug abuse, and even potential problems, if, for example, global warming is man-induced.  Third, one must be watchful.  There is a danger that one might be so concerned that he is burning his food he does not realize that his house is on fire.  As the issue of global warming is being debated and billions of dollars are being spent, the leading cause of death worldwide is lack of clean drinking water.  There are innumerable preventable deaths occurring on a daily basis.  "Preventable" meaning there ''is'' knowledge and there ''are'' cures or solutions, of which hundreds of millions of people could benefit, practically, not in theory.  It would also do well to remember that the Orthodox understanding of ethics is not strictly moral, but also ontological.  So, as we debate the consequences of potential global warming, what destruction, not just physical, is being wrought on humankind by science and technology that is catering to man's every desire to know and to do?  What is the impact of a nation that has been subjected to billions of images of violence from youth?  Humanity, it seems, no longer seeks self-divination through eating from a tree, or building a tower to heaven, but through this modern monument of science and technology.  Man is gathered at the base of this monument debating on the existence of a crack in the wall when the roof is falling on their heads.
 For further information see the following two links from national geographic.
-'''Further Information'''
+There is also an increase of temperature occurring on Mars.<ref>[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says]</ref>  There are also several flaws in the model that climatologists use to demonstrate global warming.<ref>[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/05/070531-warming-rain.html Global Warming Models Underpredict Increase in Rainfall, Study Says]</ref>
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