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<div>In a monastery, a '''[[refectory|trapeza]]''' (or ''refectory''), is the dining hall where monks and pilgrims gather for food and conversation (although monks don't usually talk during meals). The OrthodoxWiki trapeza serves as the main discussion point for our website. Please feel free to join in&mdash;ask anything, suggest an idea, make a comment. We're glad to have you here. For other, more specifically designated discussion pages, check out the [[OrthodoxWiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. <br />
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* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 1|Archive 1]], Feb 2005 &ndash; Dec 2005 (formerly the [http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=OrthodoxWiki:Anything_Goes&oldid=22917 Anything Goes] page)<br />
* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 2|Archive 2]], Feb 2005 &ndash; Aug 2006 (formerly the [http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=OrthodoxWiki:Questions&oldid=37973 Questions] page)<br />
* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 3|Archive 3]], Oct 2005 &ndash; Aug 2006 (moved from [http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&oldid=37962 Talk:Main Page])<br />
* [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza/Archive 4|Archive 4]], Aug 2006 &ndash; Dec 2006 (2006 Trapeza archive)<br />
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== Closing down OrthodoxSource and SR ==<br />
Friends, I apologize for being absent for awhile. Please let me know if you have any outstanding wiki issues you need to resolve!<br><br />
As of today, I am shutting down OrthodoxSource. Apologies to IXThis888, who has put in a good deal of work. However, there was not enough of a community of contibutors and moderators there, and I think it would be better for us all at this point to keep the focus on this wiki. Also, I will likely be shutting down SR soon. There has been no activity there for a long time, and I'm afraid that the required documents (about copyrights and policies) were never translated. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 12:45, November 25, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== questions ==<br />
hi, i have photos of the raifa monastary i would like to upload as well as a convent neasr yoshkar ola russia which i do not beleive yet has an article how would i create a new article for this? {{unsigned|Kharaku}}<br />
:Hello, on the left hand side of your screen ... scroll down until you see the words <br />
"upload file" .. then follow the steps ...its not too hard and always someone will help you categorise your work ... Good luck! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 01:16, November 29, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding a Photo.... ==<br />
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I have been wanting to post my photo, but do not know HTML.<br />
Could someone please give me a tip on how to do this?<br />
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Thanks! {{unsigned|Jacifus}}<br />
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: Give a thorough read to the materials linked in the welcome message on your talk page. There's plenty there that should help. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 23:56, December 3, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Seminarian input==<br />
Over at Citizendium, there is a programme whereby faculty at various universities enjoin their students to post their work. I was wondering if it would make sense here to start publishing seminarians' papers. They come with faculty oversight and would be of sufficient quality to support reliability here. [[User:Thomas Simmons|Thomas Simmons]] 09:28, December 19, 2008 (PST)<br />
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:There is also a Wiki Site called "Patristic Wiki" that you should look at. Father John set it up recently (mid-November I think) and they are asking for people to contribute in regards to patristic related stuff .... 22:47, December 18, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:: 1. This is not really a place for papers, but for encyclopedia articles. If seminarians wish to write Orthodox encyclopedia articles here, they are welcome to do so.<br />
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:: 2. PatristicsWiki is not connected with OrthodoxWiki and, as far as I know, not set up by (our) Fr. John. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:54, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:::Hi, I know that PatristicWiki is not linked with OrthodoxWiki but I mentioned it since I presume that everyone's core intention is to spread Orthodoxy in the way they know how ... who you are affiliated with wrt posting information publically is irrelevant as long as the end users are connected to God and the Truth. I had the impression (our) Father John was involved with it ... since, he monitors the emails for the Ancient Faith podcast that Dcn Matthew has been delivering - and he is from Monachos.net So doh! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 04:03, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== ROK's Basic Teaching on Human Dignity, Freedom and Rights == <br />
I learnt recently the Russian Church adopted a [http://www.mospat.ru/index.php?mid=463 Basic Teaching on Human Dignity, Freedom and Rights]. Metropolitan Kyrill held a [http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=documents&div=65 speech] at a conference in Vienna in 2006 where he said this teaching is meaningful to all christans and at the UN Human Rights Council he [http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=documents&div=121 said] in 2008 adoption of human rights is unsuccessful because it fades out moral. I believe this is important. Would there be interest to have an article on this topic?{{unsigned|Haiduk}}<br />
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:Perhaps you should make it a "sub-topic" under the [[Church of Russia]] since it is specific to their jurisdiction? I will give it a shot first if you want and then you can come in and edit??? Remember to sign your posts with three tilde (~) signs. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 00:45, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:: I'm glad with just doing a revision. I agree adding it to [[Church of Russia]] would be adequate. It's up to you to follow Fr. Andrew advice or convince him, if that is possible [[User:Haiduk|Haiduk]]<br />
::Honestly now, with no mucking around and with respect to Father Andrew its not MY job to convince and neither do I want to convince him since I trust what he is telling me :) However, if you wish to ..since it is your own idea ...go ahead. I merely was trying to be helpful but if its not appropriate for an article I can only just go with the guy who holds the petraxili .... :) [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 14:30, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Well, my salvation is not dependent on having such an article at OrthodoxWiki. I just wanted to ensure information about this declaration finds it's way into this community. I guess (since it is not easy to write a reasonable article on this subject) it might be better to forward it to english language blogs or forums such as monachos.net. --[[User:Haiduk|Haiduk]] 16:34, December 20, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: That's interesting, but it's really more fit for a newspaper than an encyclopedia. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:27, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Orthodoxy in Italy==<br />
I think it is completely inapropriate to use the title [[Orthodox Church in Italy]] for a non official orthodox church, that exists only 17 years, when in Italy orthodoxy has a history for many centuries. As far as I can see there is an article referred to [[Gennadios (Zervos) of Italy and Malta]] (the primate of the '''diocese of Italy of the Ecumenical Patriarchate'''), but there isn't an article for his archdiocese "Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Italy". Also in the english and italian wikipedia the problem is the same. It seems as if the users who created the "Orthodox Church in Italy" articles were really quickly to catch the title! But it should remain like this? I think no. And it is, in my point of view completely unacceptable if that happens also in the "Orthodoxwiki".--[[User:Sp!ros|Sp!ros]] 21:27, December 29, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: Generally, we use whatever titles such groups give themselves, noting within the article that they are not in communion with mainstream Orthodoxy, etc.<br />
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: In any event, I have removed the redirect and changed all the links to [[Chiesa Ortodossa in Italia]].<br />
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: You would be most welcome to provide the articles that you suggest are needed. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 20:58, December 31, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Archbishop Nikitas (Lulias) Cekal Archimandrit Daniel Bambang Dwi Biantoro ==<br />
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Pada Februari 2007 lalu, Metropolitan Orthodox Hongkong dan Asia Tenggara, '''His Eminence Nikitas Lulias''' mengeluarkan keputusan pencekalan (pembebas-tugas-an) terhadap '''Archimandrit Daniel Bambang Dwi Biantoro''', yang artinya Archimandrit Daniel Bambang tidak diperkenankan lagi (''suspended'') untuk berbicara, melakukan tugas penggembalaan jemaat atas nama gereja. Meskipun archimandrit Daniel mengklaim dirinya menjadi bagian dari satu gereja tertentu, tapi yang bersangkutan tidak lagi menerima putusan/ ketetapan (''Canonical Release'')dari Gereja sebagaimana disyaratkan. Hal ini atas sepengetahuan '''Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople.''' {{unsigned|Maruli}}<br />
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: I'm honestly not sure what language this is, but unless you post here in English, you're not likely to get too many responses. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 18:46, January 4, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::It's Indonesian. Here's an English rendering (thanks to the ever-improving Google Translate) -- "In February 2007, the Orthodox Metropolitan Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, His Eminence Nikitas Lulias-ban issue a decision (liberator-task-an) of Archimandrit Daniel Bambang Dwi Biantoro, which means Archimandrit Daniel Bambang not be more (suspended) to speak, doing penggembalaan of the church in the name of the church. Although Daniel archimandrit claimed himself to be part of a particular church, but they no longer receive the decision / provisions (Canonical Release) from the Church, as required. This top sepengetahuan Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople." — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 02:05, January 5, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Churches in Melbourne ==<br />
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I plan on uploading around one hundred photographs of churches in Melbourne to [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Greek_Orthodox_churches_in_Australia Wikimedia commons] over the next few days. You are free to reuse them; all my work is released into the public domain. Hope to have done all of the Orthodox churches within a few months. [[User:Ottre|Ottre]] 11:55, February 16, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== log in ==<br />
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why does no one ever log on and really have discussion on other pages? {{unsigned|Rob}}<br />
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: I'm not really sure I understand what you mean. Could you explain a little more? &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:14, March 9, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== The Cemetery Chapel at Saint Anna's Skete? ==<br />
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I'm trying to remember the name of the cemetery chapel at Saint Anna's Skete on the Holy Mountain, the chapel where pilgrims generally worship on weekdays. Does anyone recall which saint the chapel venerates?<br />
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Father Andrew, is there a more likely page on this site where I might solicit a response?<br />
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Thanks,<br />
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: Your best bet is at [[Talk:St. Anne's Skete (Athos)]]. It may simply be that no one who knows has yet noticed and commented. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:42, March 20, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== John the Forerunner? ==<br />
Hello, I have a question regarding the St. John the Forerunner page. It says something along the lines of, John the Baptist, also known as John the Forerunner... I was wondering if the two names should be switched, since John the Baptist is a more western term? --<font color="teal">[[User:Iliada|Iliada]]</font><font color="teal" size="100px"></font> 00:24, March 20, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: Please direct questions about specific articles to the talk pages of those articles, e.g., [[Talk:John the Forerunner]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:42, March 20, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Uploading sound recordings==<br />
I've tried uploading a sound recording (bell ringing) file to Orthodoxwiki Commons and have not been successful. I have tried as a Media file and a Image file, since some vocal music recording on Commons appear to be so uploaded. The recording is an mp3 file, through iTunes on a Mac. All attempts fail and bring up the warning banner of a corrupt, etc., file. I notice that there are no sound files in Commons other than those done originally by Father John last year. Has anyone tried uploading any sound files? Is there a special technique involved, what file ID is used:Media or Image, or other! Or is the upload capability not working for sound files?[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 13:45, March 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki logo ==<br />
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Where is the actual wiki logo? I can't find it because the one in the corner is a link to the main page. Thanks! [[User:Theodoros|Theodoros]] 03:20, March 29, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Theodoros, do you want it for a link button or something? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 04:38, March 30, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== choice of a religion ==<br />
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Majority of us follow the religion of our parents.We are either circumcised in infancy or recited verses of a particular book in our ears declaring it as our religion before we understand its implications. When we grow up in a particular culture and society we have friends and relative we go along with them to church/synegogue/mandar or masjid.How can we when we are grown up sacrifice all our friends/ relatives by opting for another religion.How can all those whom I loved and cared about can be wrong or I will take the risk of isolation.There is hardly a very little percentage that study different religions and adopt the one that is more convincing or appeals to thier logic.In a survey conducted by me it was revealed that 80% of them have not read the divine book of thier religion in a language that they understand. Their knowledge of their religion was based upon oral communication of a preist or thier parents. We since are infancy are brain washed that we are on the right path and rest every body is an infidel and deserves to be hated or may even be killed.When over 90% of human specie follow the religion by virtue of being born in a particular family and 80% do not read even the divine book of thier religion than what difference does it make that one follows any of the religions.Asif azam<br />
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'''Well, I believe it doesn't matter what religion people are. In the Bible, Jesus never says that ONLY Christians get to heaven. One gets to heaven by carrying out Jesus' word: feeding the hungry, clothing the naked... --<font color="teal">[[User:Iliada|Iliada]]</font><font color="teal" size="100px"></font> 10:45, May 12, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: Hello! I wouldn't want to explain too much here, just wanted to warmly greet you and note that you are right about most of the things. You are very fortunate to be born as an Orthodox Greek, and I believe you will be able to find a good priest near you, who can talk to you about the things you wrote here. Not everyone is so lucky to inherit from the ancestors the true faith and true worship. <br />
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: ''We since are infancy are brain washed that we are on the right path and rest every body is an infidel and deserves to be hated or may even be killed.'' - I would think the opposite, that it is not the orthodox christian family and church that brainwashes us, but rather the "other" culture is having a great influence on us. And, of course, you won't be able to find hatred and "deserves to be killed" attitude in the orthodox church and family (if you still manage to do so, that would be an exception). Actually - what you are saying is a good example of that :-)<br />
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: However, this is an encyclopaedia, a virtual community, the real community is in the church. Gia sou. [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:12, June 24, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== New Orthodox Website Alert ==<br />
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Hey all, a new orthodox website has been launched ... you might all like to take a look and if anyone knows if this site needs to be referenced within any OrthodoxWiki articles can you please add as a link (if you know where).<br />
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http://www.orthodoxmysteries.com<br />
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== List of Orthodox churches in a particular region ==<br />
I recall that we had a discussion at one point about taking the lists off OW where possible - what was the outcome of this discussion? &mdash; by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 00:13, May 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== National Saints? ==<br />
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I couldn't find a discussion on this issue elsewhere, sorry if I repeat an issue which has already been elaborated.<br />
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The whole concept of ''national saints'' is odd to the (orthodox) christian mindset. We believe that in the Church ''there is neither Jew nor Greek'' (Gal. 3, 28). <br />
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It can also bring not little confusion, and potentially - uneccessary and unfruitful nationalistic quarrels. Look, for example, at the Saints pages on different languages - you'll find that saints listed in one national category in one language, are listed under a different nation in another language - because each nation tends to claim the saint its own. <br />
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The correct and orthodox approach is seen on the greek version of OrthodoxWiki - where the saints are categorized as we mention them in the Church - as Apostles, Martyrs, Monks etc. I guess that's why the national category ''Greek'' is missing - (metanoia to the greeks for that)!<br />
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Thus, I would like to suggest that the Saints categories of each language are reworked and the national prefix is removed. Of course the national origin of the saint can be mentioned in the text (although it can often be easily disputed), but it is not something that can categorize a saint.<br />
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[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 21:19, May 31, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:As a Greek Orthodox, I grew up knowing Saints for who they where and what they did ... just like you point out ... this idea of "national" saints was introduced to me through the internet - it goes to show that bad habits can spring up from internet as well as the good things. If the administrators are happy to change this philosophy of "nationalism" I am happy to put in the work to change all the articles ... but there would need to be some sort of discussion between the administrators about it. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 02:45, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: The grouping of saints into such categories is not for the purpose of nationalism, ethnocentricity, etc. Rather, it is simply for the usefulness of being able to find saints associated with particular geographic areas.<br />
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:: The saints are, of course, universal in a theological sense. But people from Corfu, for instance, have a great veneration for St. Spyridon because of his association with that actual place. At my parish, we venerate [[Raphael of Brooklyn]] because he founded it.<br />
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:: I'm of the opinion that we might want to rename the various categories to indicate place-names rather than what at least for now appears to be ethnic designations. (Mind you, some designations have no real ethnicity attached to them, e.g. "American" or "Australian.") &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:21, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== OrthodoxWiki on Serbian ==<br />
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I am interest to develop a sr.OrthodoxWiki.org page. Would anubody can help me?<br />
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: Hi there. There used to be a serbian version, if I'm not wrong, the responsible person was Далибор Ђурић, a theology student at the faculty of Belgrade (That was written on his user page). However, I don't know what exactly Fr. John meant with this [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza#Closing_down_OrthodoxSource_and_SR]] if SR was the serbian version... [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:00, June 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Hi! Yes, we closed it does since it had sat uncared for for a long time and didn't have much content to begin with. If you can put a team together, and translate the necessary policy docs, I'd be happy to see this take off again! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza&diff=85513OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza2009-06-23T20:00:42Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* OrthodoxWiki on Serbian */</p>
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<div>In a monastery, a '''[[refectory|trapeza]]''' (or ''refectory''), is the dining hall where monks and pilgrims gather for food and conversation (although monks don't usually talk during meals). The OrthodoxWiki trapeza serves as the main discussion point for our website. Please feel free to join in&mdash;ask anything, suggest an idea, make a comment. We're glad to have you here. For other, more specifically designated discussion pages, check out the [[OrthodoxWiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]. <br />
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== Closing down OrthodoxSource and SR ==<br />
Friends, I apologize for being absent for awhile. Please let me know if you have any outstanding wiki issues you need to resolve!<br><br />
As of today, I am shutting down OrthodoxSource. Apologies to IXThis888, who has put in a good deal of work. However, there was not enough of a community of contibutors and moderators there, and I think it would be better for us all at this point to keep the focus on this wiki. Also, I will likely be shutting down SR soon. There has been no activity there for a long time, and I'm afraid that the required documents (about copyrights and policies) were never translated. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 12:45, November 25, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== questions ==<br />
hi, i have photos of the raifa monastary i would like to upload as well as a convent neasr yoshkar ola russia which i do not beleive yet has an article how would i create a new article for this? {{unsigned|Kharaku}}<br />
:Hello, on the left hand side of your screen ... scroll down until you see the words <br />
"upload file" .. then follow the steps ...its not too hard and always someone will help you categorise your work ... Good luck! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 01:16, November 29, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding a Photo.... ==<br />
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I have been wanting to post my photo, but do not know HTML.<br />
Could someone please give me a tip on how to do this?<br />
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Thanks! {{unsigned|Jacifus}}<br />
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: Give a thorough read to the materials linked in the welcome message on your talk page. There's plenty there that should help. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 23:56, December 3, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Seminarian input==<br />
Over at Citizendium, there is a programme whereby faculty at various universities enjoin their students to post their work. I was wondering if it would make sense here to start publishing seminarians' papers. They come with faculty oversight and would be of sufficient quality to support reliability here. [[User:Thomas Simmons|Thomas Simmons]] 09:28, December 19, 2008 (PST)<br />
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:There is also a Wiki Site called "Patristic Wiki" that you should look at. Father John set it up recently (mid-November I think) and they are asking for people to contribute in regards to patristic related stuff .... 22:47, December 18, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:: 1. This is not really a place for papers, but for encyclopedia articles. If seminarians wish to write Orthodox encyclopedia articles here, they are welcome to do so.<br />
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:: 2. PatristicsWiki is not connected with OrthodoxWiki and, as far as I know, not set up by (our) Fr. John. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:54, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:::Hi, I know that PatristicWiki is not linked with OrthodoxWiki but I mentioned it since I presume that everyone's core intention is to spread Orthodoxy in the way they know how ... who you are affiliated with wrt posting information publically is irrelevant as long as the end users are connected to God and the Truth. I had the impression (our) Father John was involved with it ... since, he monitors the emails for the Ancient Faith podcast that Dcn Matthew has been delivering - and he is from Monachos.net So doh! [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 04:03, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== ROK's Basic Teaching on Human Dignity, Freedom and Rights == <br />
I learnt recently the Russian Church adopted a [http://www.mospat.ru/index.php?mid=463 Basic Teaching on Human Dignity, Freedom and Rights]. Metropolitan Kyrill held a [http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=documents&div=65 speech] at a conference in Vienna in 2006 where he said this teaching is meaningful to all christans and at the UN Human Rights Council he [http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=documents&div=121 said] in 2008 adoption of human rights is unsuccessful because it fades out moral. I believe this is important. Would there be interest to have an article on this topic?{{unsigned|Haiduk}}<br />
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:Perhaps you should make it a "sub-topic" under the [[Church of Russia]] since it is specific to their jurisdiction? I will give it a shot first if you want and then you can come in and edit??? Remember to sign your posts with three tilde (~) signs. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 00:45, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:: I'm glad with just doing a revision. I agree adding it to [[Church of Russia]] would be adequate. It's up to you to follow Fr. Andrew advice or convince him, if that is possible [[User:Haiduk|Haiduk]]<br />
::Honestly now, with no mucking around and with respect to Father Andrew its not MY job to convince and neither do I want to convince him since I trust what he is telling me :) However, if you wish to ..since it is your own idea ...go ahead. I merely was trying to be helpful but if its not appropriate for an article I can only just go with the guy who holds the petraxili .... :) [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 14:30, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Well, my salvation is not dependent on having such an article at OrthodoxWiki. I just wanted to ensure information about this declaration finds it's way into this community. I guess (since it is not easy to write a reasonable article on this subject) it might be better to forward it to english language blogs or forums such as monachos.net. --[[User:Haiduk|Haiduk]] 16:34, December 20, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: That's interesting, but it's really more fit for a newspaper than an encyclopedia. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 02:27, December 19, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Orthodoxy in Italy==<br />
I think it is completely inapropriate to use the title [[Orthodox Church in Italy]] for a non official orthodox church, that exists only 17 years, when in Italy orthodoxy has a history for many centuries. As far as I can see there is an article referred to [[Gennadios (Zervos) of Italy and Malta]] (the primate of the '''diocese of Italy of the Ecumenical Patriarchate'''), but there isn't an article for his archdiocese "Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Italy". Also in the english and italian wikipedia the problem is the same. It seems as if the users who created the "Orthodox Church in Italy" articles were really quickly to catch the title! But it should remain like this? I think no. And it is, in my point of view completely unacceptable if that happens also in the "Orthodoxwiki".--[[User:Sp!ros|Sp!ros]] 21:27, December 29, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: Generally, we use whatever titles such groups give themselves, noting within the article that they are not in communion with mainstream Orthodoxy, etc.<br />
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: In any event, I have removed the redirect and changed all the links to [[Chiesa Ortodossa in Italia]].<br />
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: You would be most welcome to provide the articles that you suggest are needed. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 20:58, December 31, 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Archbishop Nikitas (Lulias) Cekal Archimandrit Daniel Bambang Dwi Biantoro ==<br />
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Pada Februari 2007 lalu, Metropolitan Orthodox Hongkong dan Asia Tenggara, '''His Eminence Nikitas Lulias''' mengeluarkan keputusan pencekalan (pembebas-tugas-an) terhadap '''Archimandrit Daniel Bambang Dwi Biantoro''', yang artinya Archimandrit Daniel Bambang tidak diperkenankan lagi (''suspended'') untuk berbicara, melakukan tugas penggembalaan jemaat atas nama gereja. Meskipun archimandrit Daniel mengklaim dirinya menjadi bagian dari satu gereja tertentu, tapi yang bersangkutan tidak lagi menerima putusan/ ketetapan (''Canonical Release'')dari Gereja sebagaimana disyaratkan. Hal ini atas sepengetahuan '''Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople.''' {{unsigned|Maruli}}<br />
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: I'm honestly not sure what language this is, but unless you post here in English, you're not likely to get too many responses. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 18:46, January 4, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::It's Indonesian. Here's an English rendering (thanks to the ever-improving Google Translate) -- "In February 2007, the Orthodox Metropolitan Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, His Eminence Nikitas Lulias-ban issue a decision (liberator-task-an) of Archimandrit Daniel Bambang Dwi Biantoro, which means Archimandrit Daniel Bambang not be more (suspended) to speak, doing penggembalaan of the church in the name of the church. Although Daniel archimandrit claimed himself to be part of a particular church, but they no longer receive the decision / provisions (Canonical Release) from the Church, as required. This top sepengetahuan Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople." — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 02:05, January 5, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Churches in Melbourne ==<br />
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I plan on uploading around one hundred photographs of churches in Melbourne to [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Greek_Orthodox_churches_in_Australia Wikimedia commons] over the next few days. You are free to reuse them; all my work is released into the public domain. Hope to have done all of the Orthodox churches within a few months. [[User:Ottre|Ottre]] 11:55, February 16, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== log in ==<br />
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why does no one ever log on and really have discussion on other pages? {{unsigned|Rob}}<br />
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: I'm not really sure I understand what you mean. Could you explain a little more? &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:14, March 9, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== The Cemetery Chapel at Saint Anna's Skete? ==<br />
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I'm trying to remember the name of the cemetery chapel at Saint Anna's Skete on the Holy Mountain, the chapel where pilgrims generally worship on weekdays. Does anyone recall which saint the chapel venerates?<br />
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Father Andrew, is there a more likely page on this site where I might solicit a response?<br />
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Thanks,<br />
Isaak<br />
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: Your best bet is at [[Talk:St. Anne's Skete (Athos)]]. It may simply be that no one who knows has yet noticed and commented. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:42, March 20, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== John the Forerunner? ==<br />
Hello, I have a question regarding the St. John the Forerunner page. It says something along the lines of, John the Baptist, also known as John the Forerunner... I was wondering if the two names should be switched, since John the Baptist is a more western term? --<font color="teal">[[User:Iliada|Iliada]]</font><font color="teal" size="100px"></font> 00:24, March 20, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: Please direct questions about specific articles to the talk pages of those articles, e.g., [[Talk:John the Forerunner]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 13:42, March 20, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Uploading sound recordings==<br />
I've tried uploading a sound recording (bell ringing) file to Orthodoxwiki Commons and have not been successful. I have tried as a Media file and a Image file, since some vocal music recording on Commons appear to be so uploaded. The recording is an mp3 file, through iTunes on a Mac. All attempts fail and bring up the warning banner of a corrupt, etc., file. I notice that there are no sound files in Commons other than those done originally by Father John last year. Has anyone tried uploading any sound files? Is there a special technique involved, what file ID is used:Media or Image, or other! Or is the upload capability not working for sound files?[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 13:45, March 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki logo ==<br />
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Where is the actual wiki logo? I can't find it because the one in the corner is a link to the main page. Thanks! [[User:Theodoros|Theodoros]] 03:20, March 29, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Theodoros, do you want it for a link button or something? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 04:38, March 30, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== choice of a religion ==<br />
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Majority of us follow the religion of our parents.We are either circumcised in infancy or recited verses of a particular book in our ears declaring it as our religion before we understand its implications. When we grow up in a particular culture and society we have friends and relative we go along with them to church/synegogue/mandar or masjid.How can we when we are grown up sacrifice all our friends/ relatives by opting for another religion.How can all those whom I loved and cared about can be wrong or I will take the risk of isolation.There is hardly a very little percentage that study different religions and adopt the one that is more convincing or appeals to thier logic.In a survey conducted by me it was revealed that 80% of them have not read the divine book of thier religion in a language that they understand. Their knowledge of their religion was based upon oral communication of a preist or thier parents. We since are infancy are brain washed that we are on the right path and rest every body is an infidel and deserves to be hated or may even be killed.When over 90% of human specie follow the religion by virtue of being born in a particular family and 80% do not read even the divine book of thier religion than what difference does it make that one follows any of the religions.Asif azam<br />
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'''Well, I believe it doesn't matter what religion people are. In the Bible, Jesus never says that ONLY Christians get to heaven. One gets to heaven by carrying out Jesus' word: feeding the hungry, clothing the naked... --<font color="teal">[[User:Iliada|Iliada]]</font><font color="teal" size="100px"></font> 10:45, May 12, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== New Orthodox Website Alert ==<br />
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Hey all, a new orthodox website has been launched ... you might all like to take a look and if anyone knows if this site needs to be referenced within any OrthodoxWiki articles can you please add as a link (if you know where).<br />
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http://www.orthodoxmysteries.com<br />
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== List of Orthodox churches in a particular region ==<br />
I recall that we had a discussion at one point about taking the lists off OW where possible - what was the outcome of this discussion? &mdash; by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 00:13, May 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== National Saints? ==<br />
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I couldn't find a discussion on this issue elsewhere, sorry if I repeat an issue which has already been elaborated.<br />
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The whole concept of ''national saints'' is odd to the (orthodox) christian mindset. We believe that in the Church ''there is neither Jew nor Greek'' (Gal. 3, 28). <br />
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It can also bring not little confusion, and potentially - uneccessary and unfruitful nationalistic quarrels. Look, for example, at the Saints pages on different languages - you'll find that saints listed in one national category in one language, are listed under a different nation in another language - because each nation tends to claim the saint its own. <br />
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The correct and orthodox approach is seen on the greek version of OrthodoxWiki - where the saints are categorized as we mention them in the Church - as Apostles, Martyrs, Monks etc. I guess that's why the national category ''Greek'' is missing - (metanoia to the greeks for that)!<br />
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Thus, I would like to suggest that the Saints categories of each language are reworked and the national prefix is removed. Of course the national origin of the saint can be mentioned in the text (although it can often be easily disputed), but it is not something that can categorize a saint.<br />
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[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 21:19, May 31, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:As a Greek Orthodox, I grew up knowing Saints for who they where and what they did ... just like you point out ... this idea of "national" saints was introduced to me through the internet - it goes to show that bad habits can spring up from internet as well as the good things. If the administrators are happy to change this philosophy of "nationalism" I am happy to put in the work to change all the articles ... but there would need to be some sort of discussion between the administrators about it. [[User:Ixthis888|Vasiliki]] 02:45, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: The grouping of saints into such categories is not for the purpose of nationalism, ethnocentricity, etc. Rather, it is simply for the usefulness of being able to find saints associated with particular geographic areas.<br />
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:: The saints are, of course, universal in a theological sense. But people from Corfu, for instance, have a great veneration for St. Spyridon because of his association with that actual place. At my parish, we venerate [[Raphael of Brooklyn]] because he founded it.<br />
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:: I'm of the opinion that we might want to rename the various categories to indicate place-names rather than what at least for now appears to be ethnic designations. (Mind you, some designations have no real ethnicity attached to them, e.g. "American" or "Australian.") &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:21, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== OrthodoxWiki on Serbian ==<br />
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I am interest to develop a sr.OrthodoxWiki.org page. Would anubody can help me?<br />
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: Hi there. There used to be a serbian version, if I'm not wrong, the responsible person was Далибор Ђурић, a theology student at the faculty of Belgrade (That was written on his user page). However, I don't know what exactly Fr. John meant with this [[OrthodoxWiki:Trapeza#Closing_down_OrthodoxSource_and_SR]] if SR was the serbian version... [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:00, June 23, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=85125Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-13T09:26:10Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* More and Less Orthodox Churches */ typo</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: To answer your two questions:<br />
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: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
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: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
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: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
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:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravenna in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
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:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
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:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia is due to the fact that two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
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:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:39, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Furthermore, here is a denial of the statement "recognized only by Serbia", and an explanation how autonomy is percieved in the orthodox world by Metropolitan Kiril of Varna, (canonical) Orthodox Church of Bulgaria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNsNcGH5nY who, asked about the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid and how the Church of Bulgaria sees this matter, says that "when one a canonical orthodox Church reaches a decision, we accept that without disputes. For us it is vaild." and later "it is not correct that I comment on the decisions of another Church, it is their internal matter". He gives nice explanations, please take your time to hear his statements.<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 18:29, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: I've addressed most of your comments at [[Talk:Autonomy]].<br />
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: I did not say, by the way, that a church's participation in inter-Orthodox gatherings is "the measure" of autonomy or autocephaly, but rather, it is one aspect of it. That is why it actually makes a difference when one church recognizes or fails to recognize another's independent status.<br />
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: Anyway, one Bulgarian bishop speaking for himself does not constitute a representation of the whole Orthodox world's regard for the Ohrid archdiocese. On which churches' diptychs is the Ohrid archdiocese listed among the autonomous churches? I can't find it listed in any of the usual sources. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:24, June 3, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, according to this Wiki, "The [[Diptych]]s is a list of names used by an autocephalous church to commemorate the primates of all the world's autocephalous churches." It does not say that the autonomous churches are included in the list. That can also be seen in the official Diptych of OCA which is given in the link. Unless it means that OCA does not recognize any autonomous church. <br />
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:: Also according to this Wiki "[[Autonomy]] (literally, "self-ruled") is the status of a church within the Orthodox Church whose primatial bishop is confirmed by one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches." It does not mention a requirement of an additional recognition by the other orthodox Churches.<br />
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:: Actually, you were the one that contributed these entries :-)<br />
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:: I clearly asked "What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?". You say an automouns seat in an inter-orthodox meeting, as one aspect. Again, can you point out when the other autonomous churches were given such seats, especially the Church of China?<br />
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:: Please also point out your usual sources of diptychs where the autonomous churches are listed, I am very curious to see which Prelate of the Church of China is usually commemorated on a Liturgy.<br />
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:: By the way, Metropolitan Kiril of Varna was not speaking for himself. He refused to answer the questions that he was not delegated by the Synod of his Church to speak about.<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 10:59, June 3, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
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Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
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Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
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: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
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: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== More and Less Orthodox Churches ==<br />
<br />
Apart from here, on this Wiki, I have never heard of such distictions like: "Inter-Orthodox Order" and "Expanded Order" (not to start again about "Independence" in the Church). The terminolgy itself testifies that this separation is odd, to say at least. As if there were "more orthodox" and "less orthodox" churches. <br />
<br />
I am not particularly glad to admit that Wikipedia has a more correct (in theological terms) stand on the Orthodox Church [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Orthodox_Churches].<br />
<br />
There we see that we have churches in full communion, and others - not in communion. The autonomous churches are listed below its mother church. How simple and yet profoundly correct. Profoundly correct in the sense that it is Christ Who is the measure of the Church, and the unity of the [[One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church]] is found in the [[full communion]] with the Body and Blood of Christ. Not in an inter-orthodox meeting. Unless that meeting is the Liturgy.<br />
<br />
That is why we seek evidence for the Unity of the Church in the diptychs - which primarily have Liturgical function. It is in the Liturgy that the Churches find "recognition", thus the criteria is the [[full communion]].<br />
<br />
I have no enthusiasm to edit this or other articles that state something different, as my edits could just be reverted, so I'm only pointing this out and leaving the others to decide what is published at the end.<br />
<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:19, June 13, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=85124Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-13T09:19:40Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* More and Less Orthodox Churches */ new section</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: To answer your two questions:<br />
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: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
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: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
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: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
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:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravenna in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
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:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
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:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia is due to the fact that two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
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:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:39, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Furthermore, here is a denial of the statement "recognized only by Serbia", and an explanation how autonomy is percieved in the orthodox world by Metropolitan Kiril of Varna, (canonical) Orthodox Church of Bulgaria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNsNcGH5nY who, asked about the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid and how the Church of Bulgaria sees this matter, says that "when one a canonical orthodox Church reaches a decision, we accept that without disputes. For us it is vaild." and later "it is not correct that I comment on the decisions of another Church, it is their internal matter". He gives nice explanations, please take your time to hear his statements.<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 18:29, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: I've addressed most of your comments at [[Talk:Autonomy]].<br />
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: I did not say, by the way, that a church's participation in inter-Orthodox gatherings is "the measure" of autonomy or autocephaly, but rather, it is one aspect of it. That is why it actually makes a difference when one church recognizes or fails to recognize another's independent status.<br />
<br />
: Anyway, one Bulgarian bishop speaking for himself does not constitute a representation of the whole Orthodox world's regard for the Ohrid archdiocese. On which churches' diptychs is the Ohrid archdiocese listed among the autonomous churches? I can't find it listed in any of the usual sources. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:24, June 3, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, according to this Wiki, "The [[Diptych]]s is a list of names used by an autocephalous church to commemorate the primates of all the world's autocephalous churches." It does not say that the autonomous churches are included in the list. That can also be seen in the official Diptych of OCA which is given in the link. Unless it means that OCA does not recognize any autonomous church. <br />
<br />
:: Also according to this Wiki "[[Autonomy]] (literally, "self-ruled") is the status of a church within the Orthodox Church whose primatial bishop is confirmed by one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches." It does not mention a requirement of an additional recognition by the other orthodox Churches.<br />
<br />
:: Actually, you were the one that contributed these entries :-)<br />
<br />
:: I clearly asked "What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?". You say an automouns seat in an inter-orthodox meeting, as one aspect. Again, can you point out when the other autonomous churches were given such seats, especially the Church of China?<br />
<br />
:: Please also point out your usual sources of diptychs where the autonomous churches are listed, I am very curious to see which Prelate of the Church of China is usually commemorated on a Liturgy.<br />
<br />
:: By the way, Metropolitan Kiril of Varna was not speaking for himself. He refused to answer the questions that he was not delegated by the Synod of his Church to speak about.<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 10:59, June 3, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
<br />
Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
<br />
Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== More and Less Orthodox Churches ==<br />
<br />
Apart from here, on this Wiki, I have never heard of such distictions like: "Inter-Orthodox Order" and "Expanded Order" (not to start again about "Independence" in the Church). The terminolgy itself testifies that this separation is odd, to say at least. As if there were "more orthodox" and "less orthodox" churches. <br />
<br />
I am not particularly glad to admit that Wikipedia has a more correct (in theological terms) stand on the Orthodox Church [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Orthodox_Churches].<br />
<br />
There we see that we have churches in full communion, and others - not in communion. The autonomous churches are listed below its mother church. How simple and yet profoundly correct. Profoundly correct in the sense that it is Christ Who is the measure of the Church, and the unity of the [[One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church]] is found in the [[full communion]] with the Body and Blood of Christ. Not in an inter-orthodox meeting. Unless that meeting is the Liturgy.<br />
<br />
That is why we seek evidence for the Unity of the Church in the Dyptichs - which primarily have Liturgical function. It is in the Liturgy that the Churches find "recognition", thus the criteria is the [[full communion]].<br />
<br />
I have no enthusiasm to edit this or other articles that state something different, as my edits could just be reverted, so I'm only pointing this out and leaving the others to decide what is published at the end.<br />
<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:19, June 13, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User:K.panteleimon&diff=85123User:K.panteleimon2009-06-13T08:39:11Z<p>K.panteleimon: New page: Through the Grace of God and His unimaginable Mercy, member of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.</p>
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<div>Through the Grace of God and His unimaginable Mercy, [[full communion|member of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church]].</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Akathist&diff=85120Akathist2009-06-12T21:11:06Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Relating to Saints */ Luke (Voino-Yasenetsky) of Simferopol and Crimea</p>
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<div>An '''akathist''' (Greek, ''akathistos'') is a [[hymn]] dedicated to a [[saint]], [[Great Feasts|holy event]], or one of the persons of the [[Holy Trinity]]. The word ''akathist'' itself means "not sitting." The akathist ''par excellence'' is that written in the 6th century to the [[Theotokos]]. In its use as part of the Salutations to the Theotokos service (used in the Byzantine tradition during [[Great Lent]]), it is often known by its Greek or Arabic names, '''''Chairetismoi''''' and '''''Madayeh''''', respectively.<br />
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The writing of akathists (occasionally spelled ''acathist'') continues today as part of the general composition of an [[akolouthia]], especially in the Slavic tradition, although not all are widely known nor translated beyond the original language. Isaac E. Lambertsen <!-- ilector@acninc.net ---> has done a large amount of translation work, including many different akathists. Most of the newer akathists are pastiche, that is, a generic form imitating the original 6th century akathist into which a particular saint's name is inserted.<br />
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There is more than one [[icon]] "of the Akathist": the [[Chilandari Monastery (Athos)|Hilandar]] icon ([[January 12]]), the [[Dionysiou Monastery (Athos)|Dionysiou]] icon ([[March 27]] and Fifth Saturday of [[Great Lent]]), and the [[Zographou Monastery (Athos)|Zographou]] icon ([[October 10]]).<br />
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==Structure==<br />
The [[Trisagion Prayers]] are often said as a prelude to the akathist hymn. The akathist hymn itself is divided into thirteen parts, each of which has a [[kontakion]] and an [[oikos]]. The kontakion usually ends with the exclamation: "Alleluia!" Within the latter part of the oikos comes an anaphoric entreaty, such as "Come!" or "Rejoice!" The thirteenth kontakion (which does not have a corresponding ikos) is usually followed by the repetition of the first ikos and kontakion. After the thirteen kontakia and ikoi, additional prayers are added, such as a [[troparion]] and another kontakion. In some akathists, [[Psalms]] are also included.<br />
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==Akathists==<br />
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===Relating to the Trinity===<br />
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'''Akathist to'''<br />
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*the [[Holy Trinity]]<br />
*[[Jesus|Our Lord, the Most Sweet Jesus]] - [http://www.monachos.net/other/akathist_to_christ.shtml 1], [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/akathistlordjesus_en.htm 2], [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/marc89107/part_CC.html 3], [http://pages.prodigy.net/frjohnwhiteford/akswjs.htm 4], [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Suloisimmalle_Herrallemme_Jeesukselle_Kristukselle.htm 5] (Finnish), [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/akathistlordjesus_cnen.htm 6] (Chinese and English), [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/akathistlordjesus_cn.htm 7] (Chinese)<br />
*Jesus Christ for a Loved One who has Fallen Asleep<br />
*the [[Passion|Divine Passion of Christ]] - [http://www.monachos.net/other/akathist_passion.shtml 1] [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Kristuksen_Jumalallisille_Karsimyksille.htm 2] (Finnish), [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/passionchrist_en.htm 3], [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/passionchrist_cn.htm 4] (Chinese)<br />
*Jesus, Light to those in Darkness - [http://www.archdiocese.ca/resources/articles/Lawrence.Akathist_To_Jesus.pdf 1] (PDF), [http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathistlight.html 2]<br />
*the [[Holy Spirit]] [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Pyhalle_Hengelle.htm] (Finnish)<br />
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===Relating to the Theotokos===<br />
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[[Image:Akathist Hymn to the Theotokos icon.jpg|right|frame|Akathist Hymn to the Theotokos]]<br />
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When the word ''akathist'' is used alone, it most commonly refers to the original hymn by this name, the 6th century Akathist to the [[Theotokos]], attributed to St. [[Roman the Melodist]] (though this attribution is hotly debated). This hymn is often split into four parts and sung at the "Salutations to the Theotokos" service on the first four Friday evenings in [[Great Lent]]; the entire Akathist is then sung on the fifth Friday evening. Traditionally it is included in the [[Orthros]] of the fifth Saturday of [[Great Lent]]. In [[monastery|monasteries]] of [[Mount Athos|Athonite]] tradition, the whole Akathist is usually inserted nightly at [[Compline]].<br />
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The four sections into which the Akathist is divided correspond to the themes of the [[Annunciation]], [[Nativity]], [[Christ]], and the [[Theotokos]] herself.<br />
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The hymn itself forms an alphabetical acrostic&mdash;that is, each ''oikos'' ("house," possibly from the Syriac terminology) begins with a letter of the Greek alphabet, in order&mdash;and it consists of twelve long and twelve short oikoi. Each of the long oikoi include a seven-line stanza followed by six couplets, employing rhyme, assonance, and alliteration, beginning with the word ''Chaire'' (translated as either "Hail!" or "Rejoice!") and ending with the refrain, "Hail, Bride without bridegroom!" In the short oikoi, the seven-line stanza is followed by the refrain, "[[Alleluia]]!" <br />
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The Salutations to the Theotokos service, often known by its Greek name, the ''Chairetismoi'' (from the ''Chaire!'' so often used in the hymn), consists of [[Compline]] with the Akathist hymn inserted. It is known in Arabic as the ''Madayeh''.<br />
<br />
'''Akathist of the'''<br />
*[[Nativity of the Theotokos|Birth of the Theotokos]]<br />
*[[Presentation of the Theotokos|Presentation of the Theotokos to the Temple]]<br />
*[[Annunciation]]<br />
*[[Protection of the Mother of God|Protection (or Covering) of the Theotokos]] - [http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathistprotection.html 1]<br />
*[[Dormition|Dormition of the Theotokos]]<br />
<br />
'''Akathist to the'''<br />
*'''Holy Virgin Theotokos''' (by St. Roman the Melodist)<br />
:English - [http://www.monachos.net/other/akathist_to_theotokos.shtml 1], [http://www.stsymeon.com/akathist.html 2], [http://www.goarch.org/en/Chapel/liturgical_texts/vaporis_akathist.asp 3], [http://www.bright.net/~palamas/CyberPsaltiri/Triodion/FriSalutations.htm 4], [http://www.stirene.org/library/liturgical_akathist.html 5], [http://home.it.net.au/~jgrapsas/pages/Akathist.htm 6], [http://www.pomog.org/akathist.shtml 7], [http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/akathis.html 8], [http://www.gocanada.org/liturgicaltexts/akathist.htm 9], [http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/m_akathist_e.htm 10], [http://home.it.net.au/~jgrapsas/pages/Akathist.htm 11], [http://www.unmercenary.com/pdf/Akathist.PDF 12] (PDF)<br />
:Other - [http://www.pagesorthodoxes.net/mere-de-dieu/md-acathiste.htm 13] (French), [http://vi06n140.members.eunet.at/ugcc/eunet_02/AkathistosDt.pdf 14] (German-PDF), [http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/spanish/akathisto_virgen.htm 15] (Spanish) [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Jumalansynnyttajalle.htm 16] (Finnish)<br />
*Burning Bush of the Theotokos - [http://www.ocadow.org/music/akathist_socal_1007.pdf 1] (PDF), [http://www.ortodox.as.ro/acatiste/ac15.html 2] (Romanian)<br />
*Most Holy Theotokos of the Portal of [[Iviron Monastery (Athos)|Iviron]] - [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/carthusian/Akathist/iviron.html 1]<br />
*Theotokos of All Protection - [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/carthusian/Akathist/protection.html 1]<br />
<br />
'''Akathist to the Theotokos,'''<br />
*All-Venerable Abbess to Monasteries of the Entire World<br />
*Daughter of Zion - [http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathistzion.html 1]<br />
*the Deliverer<br />
*the Door-keeper<br />
*the Enricher of the Harvest<br />
*the Inexhaustible Cup - [http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/resources/services/akathist_inexhaustible_cup.htm 1], [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/carthusian/Akathist/inexhaustible.html 2], [http://www.antiochian.org/1103412970 3]<br />
*[[Mother of God Joy of All Who Sorrow|Joy of All Who Sorrow]] - [http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathistjoyofall.html 1]<br />
*Nurturer of Children - [http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/NuturerofChildren.htm 1]<br />
*Our Lady of Sitka - [http://dioceseofalaska.org/pdf/Akathist-text.pdf 1] (PDF)<br />
*Port Arthur Mother of God - [http://www.archdiocese.ca/resources/pdf/Akathist-PortArthurMotherOfGod-English.pdf 1] (PDF), [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/98akafist-portarthuricon_ru.htm 2] (Russian)<br />
*Queen of All (Pantanassa, or "Healer of Cancer") - [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/carthusian/Akathist/pantanassa.html 1], [http://saintjohnwonderworker.org/AKATHIST%20TO%20THE%20MOTHER%20OF%20GOD--Healer%20of%20Cancer02.htm 2]<br />
*Spring of Healing<br />
*Swift to Aid<br />
*Unexpected Joy <!-- http://skete.com/moreinfo.cfm?Category=35&Product_ID=124 http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsViewer.asp?SID=4&ID=1&FSID=100313 ---><br />
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'''Akathist to the Theotokos for''' Reconciliation<br />
<br />
'''Akathist to the Theotokos at her'''<br />
*[[Kursk Root Icon|Wonder-working Kursk Root Icon of the Sign]] - [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/akathistinnok-irkust_ru.htm 1] (Russian)<br />
*Icon [[Assuage My Sorrows]] (or "[[Stay of Our Sorrows]]")<br />
*Weeping Icon of Boian (Bojan)<br />
*Icon of Felixstowe - [http://www.orthodoxengland.btinternet.co.uk/akafmog.htm 1]<br />
*[[Theotokos of Tikhvin|Wonder-working Icon of Tikhvin]] - [http://www.oca.org/PDF/Music/Akathists/tikhviniconakathist.pdf 1] (PDF), [http://www.tbumm.org/Library/AkathistTikhvin.htm 2] (Church Slavonic)<br />
*Wonder-working Icon of Crasna<br />
*Icon of Seven Arrows (Icon of the Prophecy of Simeon)<br />
*Icon "Theotokos of the Sign" at Novgorod<br />
*Feodorovskaya Icon<br />
*Pochaev (Pochayevskaya) Icon<br />
*Kiev Caves Icon<br />
*Kozelshchanskaya Icon <br />
*Smolensk Icon <br />
*Tikhvin Icon<br />
*Vladimir Icon<br />
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===Relating to the [[Great Feasts]]===<br />
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'''Akathist of the'''<br />
<br />
*[[Nativity of the Theotokos|Birth of the Theotokos]]<br />
*[[Elevation of the Holy Cross|Holy Cross]] - [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/marc89107/part_LL.html 1], [http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathistcross.html 2]<br />
*[[Presentation of the Theotokos|Presentation of the Theotokos to the Temple]]<br />
*[[Nativity|Nativity of Christ]] - [http://www.sjkp.org/downloads/AkNativity.pdf 1] (PDF), [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Kristuksen_syntymalle.htm 2] (Finnish)<br />
*[[Annunciation]]<br />
*[[Dormition|Dormition of the Theotokos]]<br />
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===Relating to Saints===<br />
Singular - '''Akathist to St.'''<br />
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*[[Alexander of Svir]] (Syväri) - [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Pyhittaja_Aleksanteri_Syvarilaiselle_2.htm 1] (Finnish)<br />
*[[Alexander Nevsky]]<br />
*Alexis, Man of God<br />
*[[Alexis (Kabaliuk) of Carpathia]] - [http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/servalex.htm 1]<br />
*[[Alexis of Wilkes-Barre]] - [http://stephenhowanetz.tripod.com/PDF%20FILES/Miscellaneous%20Mixed%20PDF/Akathist%20to%20St%20Alexis%20of%20Wilkes%20Barre.pdf 1] (PDF)<br />
*Anthony Dymsky - [http://www.tbumm.org/Library/AkathistDymsky.htm 1] (Church Slavonic)<br />
*[[Anthony the Great]]<br />
*[http://www.ortodoksi.net/tietopankki/henkilot/pyhat/karjalan_valistajat/arsenius_of_konevits.htm Arsenius of Konevits] - [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Arseni_Konevitsalaiselle.htm 1] (Finnish)<br />
*[[Brendan the Navigator]] - [http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/akafrbrendan.htm 1] (French)<br />
*[[Chad of Lichfield]] - [http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/akatchad.htm 1]<br />
*[[Columba of Iona]] - [http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/akafrcolomba.htm 1] (French)<br />
*[[Cuthbert of Lindisfarne]] - [http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/akacuthbert.htm 1]<br />
*[[David|David the Prophet, King of Israel]] - [http://akafist.narod.ru/D/David.htm 1]<br />
*[[Demetrios of Thessaloniki|Demetrios the Great Martyr]]<br />
*Dimitri Basarabov<br />
*[[Elijah|Elijah the Prophet]]<br />
*[[Elizabeth the New Martyr]] (Grand Duchess) - [http://www.serfes.org/royal/akathisttoelizabeth.htm 1], [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/carthusian/Akathist/elizabeth.html 2], [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/princess_elizabeth_en.htm 3], [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/princess_elizabeth_ru.htm 4] (Russian)<br />
*[[George the Trophy-bearer|George the Trophy-bearer and Great Martyr]]<br />
*[[Gregory Palamas]]<br />
*[[Guthlac of Crowland]] - [http://www.orthodoxengland.btinternet.co.uk/akaguth.htm 1]<br />
*[[Herman of Alaska]] - [http://dioceseofalaska.org/pdf/liturgical/StHermanAkathist-FullPage.pdf 1] (PDF)<br />
*Ignaty Brianchovich - [http://www.podvorje.orthodoxy.ru/English/Service/StIgnAkf.htm 1]<br />
*[[Innocent of Alaska]] - [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/carthusian/Akathist/innocent.html 1], [http://www.oca.org/PDF/Music/Akathists/stinnocentakathist.pdf 2] (PDF)<br />
*[[Jacob Netsvetov|Jacob of Alaska]] - [http://www.oca.org/PDF/Music/July/stjacobakathist.pdf 1] (PDF)<br />
*[[John Chrysostom]] - [http://chrysostom1600.org/sjc1600/akathist/ 1], [http://www.antiochian.org/system/files/Akathist+to+St+John+Chrysostom.pdf 2] (PDF)<br />
*[[John the Forerunner]]<br />
*[[John the Theologian]]<br />
*[[John of Kronstadt]] - [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Johannes_Kronstadtilaiselle.htm 1] (Finnish)<br />
*[[John Maximovitch|John of Shanghai and San Francisco]] - [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/akathiststjohn_en.htm 1], [http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/st_john_service.htm#akathist 2]<br />
*[[John the New of Suceava]]<br />
*[[Joseph the Betrothed]] [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_joosef_kihlaajalle.htm 1] (Finnish)<br />
*Juliana of Lazarevo - [http://stjulianalazarevo.org/akathist_hymn.html 1]<br />
*[[Luke (Voino-Yasenetsky) of Simferopol and Crimea]][http://www.kerpc.ru/sacred/luka/molitv 1]<br />
*[[Mary Magdalene]]<br />
*[[Maximus Sandovich]], Protomartyr of the Lemko people <!-- http://www.lemko.org/religion/maxim/ ---><br />
*[[Menas the Wonder-worker]]<br />
*[[Nektarios of Pentapolis]] - [http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathistnectarios.html 1], [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_nektariokselle.htm 2] -(Finnish)<br />
*[[Nicholas of Myra]] - [http://www.sainthermanchurch.org/Images_files/Akathist%20to%20our%20Father%20Among%20the%20Saints.doc 1] (DOC), [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Pyhalle_Nikolaokselle.htm 2] (Finnish)<br />
*[[Nicholas of Japan]]<br />
*[[Nicholas II of Russia|Nicholas II, Tsar and Emperor of All Russia, the Passion-bearer]] - [http://www.serfes.org/royal/akathist.htm 1], [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/carthusian/Akathist/nicholas.html 2]<br />
*Nilus, Wonder-worker of Sora - [http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathistnilus.html 1] [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_nil_sorskille.htm 2] (Finnish)<br />
*[[Panteleimon]] - [http://stbarnabasonline.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=32 1] (PDF)<br />
*[[Paraskevi]]<br />
*Philothea<br />
*[[Raphael of Brooklyn]] - [http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/straphaelcanonized/hymns/BRAkathist.htm 1], [http://www.networks-now.net/litresswraoc/SVCRaphaelAkathist.htm 2]<br />
*[[Romanos the Melodist]] - [http://www.frederica.com/writings/the-akathist-annunciation-hymn-of-st-romanos.html 1]<br />
*[[Seraphim of Sarov]] - [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Pyhittajaisa_Serafim_Sarovilaiselle.htm 1] (Finnish)<br />
*[[Apostle Simon|Simon the Zealot, Apostle and Evangelist]]<br />
*[[Spyridon of Trimythous]]<br />
*[[Tikhon of Moscow]] - [http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/carthusian/Akathist/tikhon.html 1]<br />
*[http://www.ortodoksi.net/tietopankki/henkilot/pyhat/karjalan_valistajat/tryphon_of_pechenga.htm Trifon (Tryphon) of Pechenga (Petsamo)] - [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Trifon_Petsamolaiselle.htm 1] (Finnish)<br />
*[[Xenia of St. Petersburg]] [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Autuaalle_Ksenia_Pietarilaiselle.htm 1] (Finnish)<br />
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Plural - '''Akathist to'''<br />
<br />
*All Saints [http://www.parohia-precupetii-vechi.ro/acatist.htm 1] (Romanian)<br />
*the Chinese martyr saints who died in the Boxer (Yihetuan Movement) Rebellion - [http://www.asna.ca/resources/akathist-chinese-martyrs-1900.pdf 1] (PDF), [http://www.orthodox.cn/liturgical/akathist/akathistmartyrs_en.htm 2]<br />
*to all the Saints that shone forth in the lands of the West - [http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/pdf/aka.pdf 1] (PDF), [http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/pdf/akatist.pdf 2] (PDF-Romanian)<br />
*Ss. [[Joachim and Anna]]<br />
*Ss. [[Apostle Peter|Peter]] and [[Apostle Paul|Paul]] - [http://www.saintspap.org/peterpaulakathist.html 1]<br />
*Ss. [http://www.ortodoksi.net/tietopankki/henkilot/pyhat/karjalan_valistajat/sergius_and_herman_of_valaam.htm Sergei and Herman] of Valaam - [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_Pyhittajaisillemme_Sergeille_ja_Hermanille.htm 1] (Finnish)<br />
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Local/Diocesan Saints<br />
<br />
*Akathist to [[Seraphim Rose]] - [http://users.sisqtel.net/williams/akathist-frseraphim.html 1]<br />
*Akathist to [[Paisios (Eznepidis)|Paisius the Athonite]] - [http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/akapaisius.htm 1]<br />
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===Relating to Angels===<br />
<br />
'''Akathist to the'''<br />
<br />
*Holy Archangel Michael - [http://cs-people.bu.edu/butta1/akathistarchangelmichael.htm 1] [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_arkkienkeli_Mikaelille.htm 2] - (Finnish)<br />
*Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel<br />
*Guardian Angel<br />
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===Other Akathists===<br />
*Akathist for [[Eucharist|Holy Communion]] - [http://www.stvladimirs.ca/library/akathist-holy-communion.html 1], [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_ehtoolliselle_valmistauduttaessa.htm 2] (Finnish)<br />
*Akathist to the Tomb and the Resurrection of the Lord - [http://gnisios.narod.ru/aktomb.html 1], [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_elamaa_kantavalle_haudalle.htm 2] (Finnish), [http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathisttomb.html 3]<br />
*Akathist to the Resurrection of Christ [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_kuolleista_nousseelle_Kristukselle.htm 1] (Finnish)<br />
*Akathist "Glory to God for All Things" or "of Thanksgiving" - [http://www.saintjonah.org/services/thanksgiving.htm 1], [http://www.orthodox.net/akathists/akathist-thanksgiving.html 2], [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akathist_of_thanksgiving.htm 3], [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_luomakunnalle_3.htm 4] (Finnish)<br />
:The Akathist is often attributed to [[Priest]] Gregory Petrov who died in a Soviet prison camp in 1940, but also to [[Metropolitan]] Tryphon (Prince Boris Petrovich Turkestanov) +1934. The title is from the words of St. [[John Chrysostom]] as he was dying in exile. It is a song of praise from amidst the most terrible sufferings.<br />
*Akathist in Praise of God's Creation (by Metropolitan Tryphon (Turkestanov)) - [http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article8228.asp 1]<br />
*Akathist for the Repose of the Departed - [http://users.sisqtel.net/williams/akathist-repose.html 1], [http://www.ortodoksi.net/liturgiset_tekstit/akatistohymnit/akatistos_kuolonuneen_nukkuneiden_puolesta.htm 2] (Finnish)<br />
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==External links==<br />
===About===<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.net/ustav/akathist-rubrics.html Akathist Rubrics]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.net/ustav/order-for-reading-canons.html The order for reading canons and akathists when alone]<br />
*[http://www.saintjonah.org/services/order.htm How to Read Canons and Akathists when praying alone]<br />
*[http://www.dormitionorthodoxchurch.org/heavenlyladder1_4.pdf The Akathist Hymn] by Fr. Luke Hartung<br />
*[http://home.it.net.au/~jgrapsas/pages/Akathist.htm Akathist with a brief outline]<br />
*[http://www.unmercenary.com/pdf/Akathist.PDF Akathist] PDF, with western notation<br />
*[http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsViewer.asp?SID=4&ID=1&FSID=17 5th Saturday of Great Lent of the Akathist to the Theotokos] ([[OCA]])<br />
*[http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsViewer.asp?SID=4&ID=1&FSID=100161 Icon of the Mother of God of the Akathist], January 12 (OCA)<br />
*[http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsViewer.asp?SID=4&ID=1&FSID=100918 Icon of the Mother of God "of the Akathist"], March 27 (OCA)<br />
*[http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsViewer.asp?SID=4&ID=1&FSID=102935 Icon of the Mother of God "of the Akathist" of the Zographou Monastery], October 10 (OCA)<br />
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===Collections===<br />
*[http://www.saintjonah.org/services/akathists.htm Akathists and Canons, online]<br />
*[http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathists.html Akathists]<br />
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===Other languages===<br />
*[http://www.ortodoksi.net/tietopankki/kirkkomusiikki/akatistos.htm Akathists in Finnish]<br />
*[http://www.ortodox.as.ro/acatiste/index.html Akathists in Romanian]<br />
*[http://akafist.narod.ru/ Akathists in Russian]<br />
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===Other traditions===<br />
*[http://www.unicorne.org/orthodoxy/2005/akathist.htm Akathists For All Occasions: Praying from East to West] by Alexander Roman (Greek Catholic)<br />
*[http://hometown.aol.com/dangellbrown/akathistjoseph.html Akathist to St. Joseph the Betrothed] (Byzantine Catholic)<br />
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===Multimedia===<br />
*[http://www.goarch.org/en/multimedia/audio.asp?videoTitle=The%20Akathist%20Hymn&location=/en/services/akathist/eikona/akathist_MSTR.mov Akathist Hymn] (MOV; sound file) chanted by [[Eikona]]<br />
*[http://www.goarch.org/en/chapel/learntochant/akathist.asp Learn to Chant: The Service of the Salutations to the Most Holy Theotokos] ([[GOARCH]])<br />
*[http://www.orthodoxmusic.ru/alb71.e.AKATHIST_TO_THE_DERZHAVNAYA_ICON.html?request_id=53 Akathist to the Derzhavnaya Icon of the Mother of God] CD for sale with sample mp3 tracks<br />
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[[ro:Acatist]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jovan_VI_(Vrani%C5%A1kovski)_of_Ohrid&diff=85012Jovan VI (Vraniškovski) of Ohrid2009-06-08T20:28:05Z<p>K.panteleimon: </p>
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<div>[[Image:Passover2008_Jerusalem_detail.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan with the Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilus serve Divine Liturgy at Christ's grave, Pascha 2008]]<br />
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His Grace '''Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)''' is the [[Archbishop]] of [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid|Ohrid]] and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje.<br />
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==Life==<br />
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[[Image:21 Century Confessor.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid - a 21st Century Confessor]]<br />
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He was born on [[February 28]], 1966, in Bitola, Yugoslavia, and [[baptism|baptized]] as an Orthodox Christian named Zoran. He completed his primary school and mathematical high school in his native town, receiving many awards for achievements in the fields of science and sports. In 1985, after having served his military obligation in Sarajevo, he began studies at the Faculty of Civil Engineering in Skopje, graduating in 1990.<br />
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Later in 1990, he enrolled the Faculty of Theology in Belgrade while working as a civil engineer with the Metropolitanate of Bitola. While employed by the [[metropolis]], he established its library in collaboration with the local University Library of Bitola, while serving also as the new library's first librarian. During his two and half years in this position the young Zoran gave a series of lectures.<br />
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In 1993, he left Bitola for Belgrade to continue his studies in theology, graduating in June 1995. Immediately, he began his master's studies at the Department of Systematic Theology (Dogmatics). At the end of 1995, he moved to Thessalonica in Greece to learn Greek and enroll for postgraduate studies. In Thessalonica, he worked on his doctorate and a dissertation entitled: ''The Unity of the Church and the Contemporary Ecclesiological Problem''.<br />
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On [[February 7]], 1998, he took [[monasticism|monastic]] vows, was tonsured a [[monk]] with the name Jovan (John), and was [[ordination|ordained]] a [[deacon]]. The following day, [[February 8]], he was ordained to the [[priest]]hood, becoming a [[hieromonk]]. On [[July 19]], 1998, Fr. John was [[consecration of a bishop|consecrated]] a [[bishop]] with the title of Bishop of Dremvica and assigned as [[auxiliary bishop|vicar]] to the Bishop of Prespa and Pelagonia. In this position, and in addition to taking part in theological consultations, Bp. John led the effort for reconstruction of the Cathedral Church of St. Great Martyr Demetrius in Bitola. In March 2000, he was assigned as administrator of the Metropolitanate of Bregalnica. In November 2000, Bp. John was elected Bishop of Veles and Vardar Valley and enthroned on [[December 4]], 2000. <br />
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==Overcoming the Schism==<br />
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Leading the Holy Metropolitanate of Veles and Vardar Valley, on [[June 22]], 2002, Metr. John responded to the summons for liturgical and canonical unity with the Patriarchate of Peć by the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Serbia|Serbia]], [[Pavel (Stojcevic) of Serbia|Pavle]]. Together with all his clergy and faithful of his Metropolitanate, Metr. John was the only bishop of the schismatic Macedonian Orthodox Church who responded positively.<br />
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A few days later, he was expelled from the seat of the Metropolitanate together with the monastic community living with him. This was done illegally and without a court warrant by the Police of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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On [[September 23]], 2002, Metr. John was appointed [[Exarch]] of all the territories of the Ohrid [[Archdiocese]] by the Assembly of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On [[December 25]], 2003, he was elected Chairman of the [[Holy Synod]] of Bishops of the Orthodox Ohrid Archdiocese, after it had been constituted. <br />
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On [[May 24]], 2005, on the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], he was confirmed by his Holiness, the Archbishop of Peć, Metropolitan of Belgrade and Karlovci, and Patriarch of Serbia, Pavle, to be Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje in accordance with the Niš Agreement. On the same day, there was an announcement of the Patriarchal and the Assembly's Tomos for Autonomy of the Ohrid Archdiocese, with Metr. John as the Chairman of the Holy Synod of Bishops.<br />
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==Testimonies for the faith==<br />
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[[Image:Archbishop Jovan arrested.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan under arrest]]<br />
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Since joining the canonical orthodox church, the persecution began, initially with the illegal expelling from his residence. He is persecued by the state, FYRO Macedonia, was imprisoned several times, and Amnesty International declared him ''a prisoner of conscience''[http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html].<br />
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While in prison, he was not allowed visitors, apart from his closest family - his parents and his sister. [http://www.southeasteurope.org/subpage.php?sub_site=2&id=14827&head=hl&site=5]<br />
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Also, he was not allowed to take communion in the prison, the priests who came with the Sacraments were not allowed to meet him. <br />
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===Detentions===<br />
He was detained under custody many times by the authorities of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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He was sentenced to a suspended punishment one year of imprisonment for the criminal offense of "performing unauthorized activities" because he had entered a [[church]] to baptize a female infant in 2004. <br />
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===First Imprisonment===<br />
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The Court of Appeal in Bitola sentenced him to eighteen months of imprisonment in 2005 as judgment for a criminal offense of "incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, discord and intolerance." The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points[http://poa-info.org/archbishop/testimonies/verdict_racial_hatred.html]: <br />
# he wrote a text in a religious calendar in which he slanders the Macedonian Orthodox Church<br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedonia and participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[July 26]], 2005 and served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of these three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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===Second Imprisonment===<br />
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He was sentenced for the second time, on charges raised by the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]] for "Embezzlement" of a donation of 57.000 Euro - money he never touched nor used and which was timely handed over to the court of first instance in Veles, in the first moment when this was requested by the donor, who later testified before the court that Archbishop Jovan is innocent. Based on the donor's testimony the Archbishop was twice liberated, and the third time, after a severe political pressure, he was sentenced to imprisonment. <br />
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As a second defendant he was sentenced to a higher prison term (2 years) than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[August 8]], 2006 and served 256 days before being released. <br />
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===Third trial===<br />
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A third trial for "Embezzlement" is in process, also upon charges of the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]. He was already found not guilty on the charges twice, but the Court of Appeal has rejected these verdicts.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox Churches===<br />
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The orthodox churches reacted upon the imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan and appealed for his release.<br />
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* [[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
* The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
* Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
* The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support to the Archbishop Jovan, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
* [[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
* [[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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==Books==<br />
*''A Short History of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric'' (Ohrid, 2007)<br />
*''The Freedom in the Prison'' (Skopje, 2007)<br />
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==Studies and Articles==<br />
* Ecclesiological Heresis of the Schismatical Organization in R. Macedonia<br />
* Contribution of the Church in the Prisons<br />
* Theological and Historical Aspects of the Church Schism in R. Macedonia and its Overcoming<br />
* The Educational Character of Orthodox Christianity<br />
* Theology and Ecology<br />
* The Theology of St. Theophylact of Ohrid in His Commentaries on the Gospel of Matthew<br />
* The Holy Relics - A Seal of a Sanctified Life<br />
* Baptism and Chrismation<br />
* The One and Many Through an Ecclesiological Aspect<br />
* The Crisis is to Unite the Christians<br />
* A Witness<br />
* A Verdict for the Communism<br />
* The Church is One<br />
* Autonomy or Autocephaly<br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje, Kyr Kyr John VI]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html Article in 'The Orthodox Word' periodical]<br />
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==See also==<br />
[http://www.pravmir.ru/article_1203.html Православие и мир - Современные гонения на православных в Македонии]<br />
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[[Category:Bishops]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Theophylact_of_Ochrid&diff=84990Theophylact of Ochrid2009-06-07T20:58:36Z<p>K.panteleimon: fixed link</p>
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<div>Blessed '''Theophylactus of Ohrid''' (ca. 1050/60-ca. 1108) was one of the most famous Byzantine biblical scholards and exegetes; he was born on the Greek island of Euboia, close to Athens, some time between 1050 and 1060. He pursued an education in Constantinople to be study under the finest teachers of literature and rhetoric of his time and became one of the clergy of the Great Church there. He was appointed professor of rhetoric at the patriarchal academy and tutor to the emperor's children. As a relatively young man, he was consecrated as bishop and sent, against his will, to Ochrid, where he was the Metropolitan of the Church in Bulgaria for twenty-five years. <br />
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An inspired theologian and orator, he has left many homilies and, most important, a commentary on the whole New Testament (''Theophylactus completed extensive biblical commentaries on the four Gospels, the Acts of the Apostles, and the New testament Epistles. There is also supposed to be a commentary on the Greek text of the Psalms and on the Prophets''), which has been has been treasured by Orthodox Christians ever since. The ''Patrologia Graeca'' has a long sermon on the cross, another on John the Baptist, and a third on the feast of the presentation.<br />
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The first English translation (and the first in any modern Western European language) of Theophylact's commentaries on the New Testament, The Explanation of the Gospels, is available from [http://www.chrysostompress.org Chrysostom Press]. Work is underway to complete the English translation of his commentaries on the Book of Acts and the Epistles.<br />
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In his last years he moved to Thessalonica, where he reposed in peace; the exact year of Blessed Theophylact’s repose is not known, but the latest date that can be ascertained from his letters is 1108. <br />
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The Serbian Orthodox Church, whose jurisdiction in later years came to include Ochrid and Macedonia, and other Orthodox Churches, commemorates Theophylactus as a saint, on [[December 31]].<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://www.chrysostompress.org/theophylact-of-ochrid Blessed Theophylact, Archbishop of Ochrid and Bulgaria], download Theophylact's [http://www.chrysostompress.org/media/cms/Theophylact-on-I-Cor-13.pdf Commentary on I Corinthians, Chapter 13] for free.<br />
*[[w:Theophylact_of_Bulgaria|Theophylact of Bulgaria on Wikipedia]]<br />
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in his correspondence (Ep., 27) he maintains the traditional independence of the Diocese of Ohrid. The Bishop of Constantinople, he says, has no right of ordination in Bulgaria, whose bishop is independent.<br />
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[[Category:Saints]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84923Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-05T08:49:17Z<p>K.panteleimon: corrected verdicti details</p>
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<div>{{church|<br />
name=Autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid[[Image:Orhodox Ohrid Archbishopric Logo en.gif|200px|center|Archbishopric of Ohrid]]|<br />
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independence=2005|<br />
recognition= 2005|<br />
primate=[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje|<br />
hq=Skopje, R. Macedonia|<br />
territory=R. Macedonia|<br />
possessions=&mdash;|<br />
language=Macedonian, [[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]], Serbian chant|<br />
calendar=[[Julian Calendar]]|<br />
population=N/A|<br />
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}}<br />
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The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement.<ref> The '''Draft Agreement On Reestablishment Of Church Unity ("Nis Agreement")''' was signed in Nis, on [[May 17]], 2002.</ref><br />
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On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
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The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with all other Orthodox churches.<br />
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The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]]. <br />
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==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
[[Image:Synod of Archbishopric of Ohrid.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Holy Synod of Bishops of the autonomous Ohrid Archbishopric with the Patriarch Paul of Serbia, 2004]]<br />
The Holy Synod of bishops was constituted on December 23, 2003 in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom". The current members of the Synod are:<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
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==Persecution==<br />
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===Short history===<br />
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Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
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In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
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[[Image:Destroyed temple Monastery Chrysostomos.jpg|left|thumb|400px|The destruction of the church in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom"]]<br />
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A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
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The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
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The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004. <br />
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[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he wrote a text in a religious calendar in which he slanders the Macedonian Orthodox Church<br />
#he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedonia and participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and<br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
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The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
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The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
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Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
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===Current situation===<br />
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The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
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'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
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The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
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Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
[[Image:Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Liturgy, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan]]<br />
====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
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====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
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====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
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====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
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====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
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====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
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====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
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====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
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====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
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====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
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The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
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====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
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====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
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==References== <br />
<div class><references/></div><br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html The Orthodox Word]<br />
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==See also==<br />
[http://www.pravmir.ru/article_1203.html Православие и мир - Современные гонения на православных в Македонии]<br />
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[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
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[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jovan_VI_(Vrani%C5%A1kovski)_of_Ohrid&diff=84852Jovan VI (Vraniškovski) of Ohrid2009-06-04T16:44:58Z<p>K.panteleimon: corrected verdict details and added link</p>
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<div>[[Image:Passover2008_Jerusalem_detail.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan with the Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilus serve Divine Liturgy at Christ's grave, Pascha 2008]]<br />
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His Grace '''Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)''' is the [[Archbishop]] of [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid|Ohrid]] and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje.<br />
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==Life==<br />
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[[Image:21 Century Confessor.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid - a 21st Century Confessor]]<br />
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He was born on [[February 28]], 1966, in Bitola, Yugoslavia, and [[baptism|baptized]] as an Orthodox Christian named Zoran. He completed his primary school and mathematical high school in his native town, receiving many awards for achievements in the fields of science and sports. In 1985, after having served his military obligation in Sarajevo, he began studies at the Faculty of Civil Engineering in Skopje, graduating in 1990.<br />
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Later in 1990, he enrolled the Faculty of Theology in Belgrade while working as a civil engineer with the Metropolitanate of Bitola. While employed by the [[metropolis]], he established its library in collaboration with the local University Library of Bitola, while serving also as the new library's first librarian. During his two and half years in this position the young Zoran gave a series of lectures.<br />
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In 1993, he left Bitola for Belgrade to continue his studies in theology, graduating in June 1995. Immediately, he began his master's studies at the Department of Systematic Theology (Dogmatics). At the end of 1995, he moved to Thessalonica in Greece to learn Greek and enroll for postgraduate studies. In Thessalonica, he worked on his doctorate and a dissertation entitled: ''The Unity of the Church and the Contemporary Ecclesiological Problem''.<br />
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On [[February 7]], 1998, he took [[monasticism|monastic]] vows, was tonsured a [[monk]] with the name Jovan (John), and was [[ordination|ordained]] a [[deacon]]. The following day, [[February 8]], he was ordained to the [[priest]]hood, becoming a [[hieromonk]]. On [[July 19]], 1998, Fr. John was [[consecration of a bishop|consecrated]] a [[bishop]] with the title of Bishop of Dremvica and assigned as [[auxiliary bishop|vicar]] to the Bishop of Prespa and Pelagonia. In this position, and in addition to taking part in theological consultations, Bp. John led the effort for reconstruction of the Cathedral Church of St. Great Martyr Demetrius in Bitola. In March 2000, he was assigned as administrator of the Metropolitanate of Bregalnica. In November 2000, Bp. John was elected Bishop of Veles and Vardar Valley and enthroned on [[December 4]], 2000. <br />
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==Overcoming the Schism==<br />
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Leading the Holy Metropolitanate of Veles and Vardar Valley, on [[June 22]], 2002, Metr. John responded to the summons for liturgical and canonical unity with the Patriarchate of Peć by the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Serbia|Serbia]], [[Pavel (Stojcevic) of Serbia|Pavle]]. Together with all his clergy and faithful of his Metropolitanate, Metr. John was the only bishop of the schismatic Macedonian Orthodox Church who responded positively.<br />
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A few days later, he was expelled from the seat of the Metropolitanate together with the monastic community living with him. This was done illegally and without a court warrant by the Police of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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On [[September 23]], 2002, Metr. John was appointed [[Exarch]] of all the territories of the Ohrid [[Archdiocese]] by the Assembly of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On [[December 25]], 2003, he was elected Chairman of the [[Holy Synod]] of Bishops of the Orthodox Ohrid Archdiocese, after it had been constituted. <br />
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On [[May 24]], 2005, on the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], he was confirmed by his Holiness, the Archbishop of Peć, Metropolitan of Belgrade and Karlovci, and Patriarch of Serbia, Pavle, to be Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje in accordance with the Niš Agreement. On the same day, there was an announcement of the Patriarchal and the Assembly's Tomos for Autonomy of the Ohrid Archdiocese, with Metr. John as the Chairman of the Holy Synod of Bishops.<br />
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==Testimonies for the faith==<br />
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[[Image:Archbishop Jovan arrested.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan under arrest]]<br />
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Since joining the canonical orthodox church, the persecution began, initially with the illegal expelling from his residence. He is persecued by the state, FYRO Macedonia, was imprisoned several times, and Amnesty International declared him ''a prisoner of conscience''[http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html].<br />
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While in prison, he was not allowed visitors, apart from his closest family - his parents and his sister. [http://www.southeasteurope.org/subpage.php?sub_site=2&id=14827&head=hl&site=5]<br />
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Also, he was not allowed to take communion in the prison, the priests who came with the Sacraments were not allowed to meet him. <br />
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===Detentions===<br />
He was detained under custody many times by the authorities of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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He was sentenced to a suspended punishment one year of imprisonment for the criminal offense of "performing unauthorized activities" because he had entered a [[church]] to baptize a female infant in 2004. <br />
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===First Imprisonment===<br />
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The Court of Appeal in Bitola sentenced him to eighteen months of imprisonment in 2005 as judgment for a criminal offense of "incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, discord and intolerance." The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points[http://poa-info.org/archbishop/testimonies/verdict_racial_hatred.html]: <br />
# he wrote a text in a religious calendar in which he slanders the Macedonian Orthodox Church<br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedonia and participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[July 26]], 2005 and served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of these three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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===Second Imprisonment===<br />
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He was sentenced for the second time, on charges raised by the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]] for "Embezzlement" of a donation of 57.000 Euro - money he never touched nor used and which was timely handed over to the court of first instance in Veles, in the first moment when this was requested by the donor, who later testified before the court that Archbishop Jovan is innocent. Based on the donor's testimony the Archbishop was twice liberated, and the third time, after a severe political pressure, he was sentenced to imprisonment. <br />
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As a second defendant he was sentenced to a higher prison term (2 years) than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[August 8]], 2006 and served 256 days before being released. <br />
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===Third trial===<br />
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A third trial for "Embezzlement" is in process, also upon charges of the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]. He was already found not guilty on the charges twice, but the Court of Appeal has rejected these verdicts.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox Churches===<br />
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The orthodox churches reacted upon the imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan and appealed for his release.<br />
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* [[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
* The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
* Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
* The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support to the Archbishop Jovan, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
* [[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
* [[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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==Books==<br />
*''A Short History of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric'' (Ohrid, 2007)<br />
*''The Freedom in the Prison'' (Skopje, 2007)<br />
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==Studies and Articles==<br />
* Ecclesiological Heresis of the Schismatical Organization in R. Macedonia<br />
* Contribution of the Church in the Prisons<br />
* Theological and Historical Aspects of the Church Schism in R. Macedonia and its Overcoming<br />
* The Educational Character of Orthodox Christianity<br />
* Theology and Ecology<br />
* The Theology of St. Theophylact of Ohrid in His Commentaries on the Gospel of Matthew<br />
* The Holy Relics - A Seal of a Sanctified Life<br />
* Baptism and Chrismation<br />
* The Eucharist of the Church as the Basis of the <br />
* The One and Many Through an Ecclesiological Aspect<br />
* The Crisis is to Unite the Christians<br />
* A Witness<br />
* A Verdict for the Communism<br />
* The Church is One<br />
* Autonomy or Autocephaly<br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje, Kyr Kyr John VI]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html Article in 'The Orthodox Word' periodical]<br />
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==See also==<br />
[http://www.pravmir.ru/article_1203.html Православие и мир - Современные гонения на православных в Македонии]<br />
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[[Category:Bishops]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Zographou_Monastery_(Athos)&diff=84769Zographou Monastery (Athos)2009-06-03T20:16:39Z<p>K.panteleimon: feasts</p>
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The '''Holy Monastery of Zographou''' is located on the southwestern side of the Athos Peninsula in northern Greece. The [[monastery]] is dedicated to St. [[George the Trophy-bearer|George]]. According to tradition, the monastery was founded during the tenth century by three Bulgarian brothers, the [[monk]]s Moses, Aaron, and John from Ohrid. While the monastery initially was inhabited by Bulgarian, Greek, and Serbian monks, since 1845 the monks are only Bulgarians. Zographou is ranked ninth in the hierarchical order of the twenty monasteries located on the [[Mount Athos]] peninsula.<br />
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==History==<br />
The earliest record of the Zographou is from 980. During its early years the monastery was well supported by Bulgarian rulers, especially Ivan Asen II and Ivan Alexander. Zographou also received land endowments from the Byzantine emperors and Serbian and Romanian rulers.<br />
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As were many of the Athonite monasteries at the time Zographou suffered from raids by the pirates in the Mediterranean Sea, especially during the thirteenth century when the peninsula was ruled by Frankish forces after they had conquered Constantinople in 1204. In 1275, Catalan pirates made a major raid for plunder on the monastery, a raid in which 26 monks were killed and the monastery burnt down. Reconstruction of the buildings started later in the century, aided financially by Emperor Adronicus II Palaeologus.<br />
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Further major construction in the monastery began in the sixteenth century, with many of the existing buildings dating from the middle of the eighteenth century. The south and east wings were built in 1750 and 1758 respectively. A small church was built in 1764 and a larger one in 1801. The north and west wings were built in late nineteenth century and with the construction of the Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]] Church and bell tower major construction was completed in 1896.<br />
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At present all monks in the monastery are Bulgarian, and all services are in [[Church Slavonic]].<br />
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==Treasury==<br />
The collection in the monastery library preserves a significant presentation of Bulgarian culture. It contains manuscripts from the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries, including copies of the passionals of Naum of Ohrid and St. Petka. Additionally, the library contains 388 manuscripts in Slavic and 126 in Greek, as well as some 10,000 printed books.<br />
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The monastery also has two miraculous icons of St. George as well as icons of the Virgin of Akathistos and the Virgin Epakouousa. In addition, the monastery has other heirlooms and ecclesiastical vessels.<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[[Wikipedia:Zograf Monastery]] <br />
*[http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/Athos/Monastery/zographou.html Zographou Monastery]<br />
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[[ro:Mănăstirea Zografu (Muntele Athos)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Zographou_martyrs&diff=84768Zographou martyrs2009-06-03T20:15:27Z<p>K.panteleimon: link</p>
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<div>The holy '''[[Zographou Monastery (Athos)|Zographou]] martyrs''' were burned alive in 1282 on [[Mount Athos]] by a Latin army serving the Byzantine Emperor [[Michael VIII of Constantinople|Michael VIII Paleologos]]. Their memory is celebrated on [[October 10]]th.<br />
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== History ==<br />
In 1274 Michael VIII Paleologos entered into union with the [[Pope]] of Rome, in the hope that an alliance would strengthen his empire from the encroaching presence of the Bulgars and the Serbs. The union was not popularly received and the Emperor threatened to enforce the treaty by force if necessary, issuing a 1278 edict to that affect.<br />
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The [[monk]]s of Mount Athos were solidly opposed to the union and sent a letter to the Emperor enumerating the heresies of the Pope and the [[Roman Catholic Church]]. They urged the Emperor to put aside the union, reject heresy and return to Orthodoxy.<br />
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Employing Latin crusaders from Romania, Turks and Tartars, Michael sent an army to Athos to enforce the union. The army attacked and killed monks in many of the Slavic monasteries. When [[Abbot]] Thomas of Zographou learned of the impending attack by inspiration, he told the population that those who wished to save themselves should flee, and that those who whished for martyrdom should stay in the monastery. The twenty-six men who remained and locked themselves in the monastery tower were:<br />
Abbot Thomas, monks Barsanuphius, Cyril, Michaeas, Cosmas, Hilarion, James, Job, Cyprian, Sabbas, James, Martinian, Cosmas, Sergius, Minas, Joasaph, Ioannicius, Paul, Anthony, Euthymius, Dometian Parthenius and four laymen.<br />
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When Michael’s Latin army reached Zographu they set fire to the tower. The holy [[martyr]]s sang hymns to the Mother of God while the tower burned, and gave their souls to God on October 10th, 1282. <br />
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==Sources==<br />
*St. [[Nikolai Velimirovic]], ''The [[Prologue of Ohrid]]''<br />
* [http://www.oca.org/FSLivesAllSaints.asp?SID=4&M=10&D=10 Lives of the Saints] – www.oca.org<br />
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[[Category:Greek Saints]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Ieronymos_II_(Liapis)_of_Athens&diff=84767Ieronymos II (Liapis) of Athens2009-06-03T20:03:47Z<p>K.panteleimon: image</p>
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<div>[[Image:Archbishop Ieronymos.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Archbishop Ieronymos serves Liturgy on the day of his enthronement]]<br />
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His Beatitude, the Most Blessed '''Ieronymos II (Liapis) of Athens''' is the Archbishop and [[primate]] of the [[Church of Greece]]. His [[enthronement]] took place on [[February 16]], 2008.<ref>[http://www.ana.gr/anaweb/user/showplain?maindoc=6152615&maindocimg=6152259&service=100 Athens News Agency - Archbishop Ieronymos enthroned]</ref><br />
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==Life==<br />
Born Ioannis Liapis in 1938, Ieronymos is a graduate of the School of Philosophy and the School of Theology of the University of Athens, followed by Byzantine studies on a nationwide state scholarship, and post-graduate studies in Austria and Germany.<br />
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He was academic assistant to the great archaeologist Anastasios Orlandos, founding member and later president of the Archaeological Society of Athens, and was a teacher of literature at the Leontios School in the Nea Smyrni suburb of Athens, as well as at high schools in Athens and Avlona. He set aside his academic career after entering the [[clergy]].<br />
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Ieronymos served as Coadjutor [[Metropolitan]] of Thebes & Levadeia from 1967-78, where he was unanimously elected Metropolitan in 1981, after serving as [[abbot]] of two [[monastery|monasteries]] (1971-1981) and as secretary and later Chief Secretary of the Holy [[Synod]] of the [[Church of Greece]] (1978-81).<br />
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The overwhelming majority (82 of the 110) [[priest]]s in his metropolis (Thebes and Levadeia) are degree-holders in theology with a second degree (in fields such as literature, architecture, medicine, informatics education, education, and economic sciences) making it the first metropolis of the Church of Greece to have clergy of such a high level of education.<br />
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Under his term as Metropolitan of Thebes and Levadeia and through his guidance, six monasteries (with a total of 45 [[monk]]s) and 17 [[convent]]s (with a total of 110 [[nun]]s) were renovated and staffed. He has also written numerous articles, studies, and books on theological, social, and historical topics, while his book ''Medieval Monuments of Evia'' received the Athens Academy's top award in 1970.<br />
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His social work also includes the founding of boarding schools, orphanages and introduction of the institution of foster families, shelters for the elderly, rehabilitation centres for the mentally challenged, a training centre for the creative occupation of children with special needs in cooperation with prefectural agencies, a drug prevention centre, food kitchens for the poor, including economic immigrants, consulting centres, and a Centre of Historical and Archaeological Studies, while, as a former academic, he had developed a special relationship with the teaching community in Viotia.<br />
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Other improvements in the Metropolis of Thebes and Levadeia include a model camping facility on Mt. Parnassos. At his initiative the Viotia History and Culture Research Centre was founded, which collaborates with the universities of Durham and Cambridge.<br />
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Ieronymos was also a protagonist in the creation, in his home town of Oinofyta, of a Population Awareness Centre on environmental and economic immigrants' issues. He has been awarded an honorary Ph.D. from the University of Craiova, in Romania, and is also president of the Hellenic Heart Foundation (ELIKAR), a public benefit foundation.<br />
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==Source==<br />
*[http://www.ecclesia.gr/englishnews/default.asp?id=3452 Official biography]<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/resources/hierarchs/greece/current.htm#ieronymos_metr_thebes Listing] at the Orthodox Research Institute<br />
*[http://www.ana-mpa.gr/anaweb/user/showplain?maindoc=6126038&maindocimg=6125682&service=6 Ieronymos of Thebes elected Archbishop]<br />
*[http://www.oodegr.com/english/ekklisia/ierarxes/enthr_log_ierwn1.htm Enthronement speech as Archbishop]<br />
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[[fr:Hiéronyme II (Liapis) d'Athènes]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Autonomy&diff=84688Talk:Autonomy2009-06-03T12:07:21Z<p>K.panteleimon: </p>
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<div>Father Andrew, you removed the Archbishopric of Ohrid from the list of autonomous churches, with a short note that it is "recognized only by Serbia". <br />
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Your argument is in contradiction with the definition of autonomy in this page which states that: "is the status of a church within the Orthodox Church whose primatial bishop is confirmed by one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches."<br />
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Assumably, by Serbia you mean the Church of Serbia - which is autocephalous canonical orthodox Church (complies to the requirement "one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches"). It issued a tomos for autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and confirmed the primatial bishop to be Archbishop of Ohrid. <br />
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If there are some other criteria that has to be met - they should be written on this page too.<br />
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It is not understandible why the Church of China, which unfortunately, has no clergy (no bishops, no priests) can be listed, and a canonical church that has (at this moment) four bishops and is in full communion with all canonical orthodox churches, can not be listed on this page?<br />
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[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 10:05, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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A denial of the statement "recognized only by Serbia", and an explanation how autonomy is percieved in the orthodox world by Metropolitan Kiril of Varna, (canonical) Orthodox Church of Bulgaria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNsNcGH5nY who, asked about the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid and how the Church of Bulgaria sees this matter, says that "when one a canonical orthodox Church reaches a decision, we accept that without disputes. For us it is vaild." and later "it is not correct that I comment on the decisions of another Church, it is their internal matter". He gives nice explanations, please take your time to hear his statements.<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 18:29, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: On OrthodoxWiki, we go by what are generally recognized, third-party sources. The Ohrid archdiocese is not listed in these sources as one of the autonomous churches of Orthodoxy. It's not a matter simply of what the Church of Serbia says or one Bulgarian bishop speaking on camera says, but rather what is generally practiced and recognized throughout the Orthodox Church.<br />
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: This is, by no means, a comment on the legitimacy of the Ohrid archdiocese or its autonomy. It's simply a matter of what is generally recognized throughout the Orthodox world.<br />
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: In any event, if it really is simply an "internal" matter, then that means that the Ohrid archdiocese is still part of the Serbian church and not one of the separate, autonomous churches in the way that Finland (for instance) is.<br />
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: It is very much worth noting that ''autonomy'' means different things in different cases. Clearly, the [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/archbishop|decisions|tomos.html tomos] given to the Ohbrid archdiocese by the Church of Serbia regards it as "in full liturgical and canonical unity with our Patriarchate of Pec, i.e., with the Serbian Orthodox Church," meaning that it is not autonomous in the same sense as other autonomous churches, which really are fully independent, excepting only the confirmation of their primate. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:18, June 3, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, it is be true that ''autonomy'' can mean different things in different cases. But if these differences are crutial, they should be named and explained in the main page too.<br />
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:: The usage of third-party sources is essential, definitely. It is also essential that all these sources are listed. Why aren't they?<br />
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:: You quoted just a half of the sentence, missing a very significant part - "and therefore with the fullness of the Most Holy Catholic Orthodox Church". (The full sentence is: "By the grace of our Lord, the autonomous Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric remains in full liturgical and canonical unity with our Patriarchate of Pec, i.e., with the Serbian Orthodox Church, and therefore with the fullness of the Most Holy Catholic Orthodox Church, being canonically expressed with the confirmation of the election of the Prelate thereof by Our humbleness.")<br />
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:: Also, I see a mention of a term which is really odd in the orthodox ecclesiology: independence. Independence is valuable if we speak of coutries, companies, families, etc., but not if we speak of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Full independence in church terms would be separation from the body of Christ! Christ prayed that "they may be one as we are one" (John 17, 11), not that "they may be fully independent of each other."<br />
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:: Therefore it seems not adequate to state that any canonical orthodox Church is independent from another (canonical orthodox Church). <br />
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:: Similarly, in regard to the [[Church of Finland]], this wiki says that "In 1923, the Finnish Church completely separated from the Russian Church". Complete separation from the body of Christ is schism, which is not the case here. Which source does this statement originate from? The history page of the Church of Finland definitely not.<br />
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:: The Church of Finland's history page says that the Ecumenical Patriarchate granted its autonomy by issuing a Tomos. It does not mention any other criteria, or additional recognition by the other orthodox Churches - because that is an internal matter, in this case of the Ecumenical patriarchate.<br />
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:: So, what difference do you find between the autonomies of the Church of Finland and the Archbishopric of Ohrid?<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 12:07, June 3, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84687Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-03T10:59:32Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: To answer your two questions:<br />
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: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
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: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
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: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
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:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravenna in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
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:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
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:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia is due to the fact that two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
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:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:39, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Furthermore, here is a denial of the statement "recognized only by Serbia", and an explanation how autonomy is percieved in the orthodox world by Metropolitan Kiril of Varna, (canonical) Orthodox Church of Bulgaria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNsNcGH5nY who, asked about the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid and how the Church of Bulgaria sees this matter, says that "when one a canonical orthodox Church reaches a decision, we accept that without disputes. For us it is vaild." and later "it is not correct that I comment on the decisions of another Church, it is their internal matter". He gives nice explanations, please take your time to hear his statements.<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 18:29, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: I've addressed most of your comments at [[Talk:Autonomy]].<br />
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: I did not say, by the way, that a church's participation in inter-Orthodox gatherings is "the measure" of autonomy or autocephaly, but rather, it is one aspect of it. That is why it actually makes a difference when one church recognizes or fails to recognize another's independent status.<br />
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: Anyway, one Bulgarian bishop speaking for himself does not constitute a representation of the whole Orthodox world's regard for the Ohrid archdiocese. On which churches' diptychs is the Ohrid archdiocese listed among the autonomous churches? I can't find it listed in any of the usual sources. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 01:24, June 3, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, according to this Wiki, "The [[Diptych]]s is a list of names used by an autocephalous church to commemorate the primates of all the world's autocephalous churches." It does not say that the autonomous churches are included in the list. That can also be seen in the official Diptych of OCA which is given in the link. Unless it means that OCA does not recognize any autonomous church. <br />
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:: Also according to this Wiki "[[Autonomy]] (literally, "self-ruled") is the status of a church within the Orthodox Church whose primatial bishop is confirmed by one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches." It does not mention a requirement of an additional recognition by the other orthodox Churches.<br />
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:: Actually, you were the one that contributed these entries :-)<br />
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:: I clearly asked "What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?". You say an automouns seat in an inter-orthodox meeting, as one aspect. Again, can you point out when the other autonomous churches were given such seats, especially the Church of China?<br />
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:: Please also point out your usual sources of diptychs where the autonomous churches are listed, I am very curious to see which Prelate of the Church of China is usually commemorated on a Liturgy.<br />
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:: By the way, Metropolitan Kiril of Varna was not speaking for himself. He refused to answer the questions that he was not delegated by the Synod of his Church to speak about.<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 10:59, June 3, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
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Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
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Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
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: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
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: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jovan_VI_(Vrani%C5%A1kovski)_of_Ohrid&diff=84621Jovan VI (Vraniškovski) of Ohrid2009-06-02T19:48:05Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Studies and Articles */ correct term</p>
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<div>[[Image:Passover2008_Jerusalem_detail.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan with the Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilus serve Divine Liturgy at Christ's grave, Pascha 2008]]<br />
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His Grace '''Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)''' is the [[Archbishop]] of [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid|Ohrid]] and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje.<br />
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==Life==<br />
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[[Image:21 Century Confessor.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid - a 21st Century Confessor]]<br />
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He was born on [[February 28]], 1966, in Bitola, Yugoslavia, and [[baptism|baptized]] as an Orthodox Christian named Zoran. He completed his primary school and mathematical high school in his native town, receiving many awards for achievements in the fields of science and sports. In 1985, after having served his military obligation in Sarajevo, he began studies at the Faculty of Civil Engineering in Skopje, graduating in 1990.<br />
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Later in 1990, he enrolled the Faculty of Theology in Belgrade while working as a civil engineer with the Metropolitanate of Bitola. While employed by the [[metropolis]], he established its library in collaboration with the local University Library of Bitola, while serving also as the new library's first librarian. During his two and half years in this position the young Zoran gave a series of lectures.<br />
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In 1993, he left Bitola for Belgrade to continue his studies in theology, graduating in June 1995. Immediately, he began his master's studies at the Department of Systematic Theology (Dogmatics). At the end of 1995, he moved to Thessalonica in Greece to learn Greek and enroll for postgraduate studies. In Thessalonica, he worked on his doctorate and a dissertation entitled: ''The Unity of the Church and the Contemporary Ecclesiological Problem''.<br />
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On [[February 7]], 1998, he took [[monasticism|monastic]] vows, was tonsured a [[monk]] with the name Jovan (John), and was [[ordination|ordained]] a [[deacon]]. The following day, [[February 8]], he was ordained to the [[priest]]hood, becoming a [[hieromonk]]. On [[July 19]], 1998, Fr. John was [[consecration of a bishop|consecrated]] a [[bishop]] with the title of Bishop of Dremvica and assigned as [[auxiliary bishop|vicar]] to the Bishop of Prespa and Pelagonia. In this position, and in addition to taking part in theological consultations, Bp. John led the effort for reconstruction of the Cathedral Church of St. Great Martyr Demetrius in Bitola. In March 2000, he was assigned as administrator of the Metropolitanate of Bregalnica. In November 2000, Bp. John was elected Bishop of Veles and Vardar Valley and enthroned on [[December 4]], 2000. <br />
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==Overcoming the Schism==<br />
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Leading the Holy Metropolitanate of Veles and Vardar Valley, on [[June 22]], 2002, Metr. John responded to the summons for liturgical and canonical unity with the Patriarchate of Peć by the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Serbia|Serbia]], [[Pavel (Stojcevic) of Serbia|Pavle]]. Together with all his clergy and faithful of his Metropolitanate, Metr. John was the only bishop of the schismatic Macedonian Orthodox Church who responded positively.<br />
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A few days later, he was expelled from the seat of the Metropolitanate together with the monastic community living with him. This was done illegally and without a court warrant by the Police of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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On [[September 23]], 2002, Metr. John was appointed [[Exarch]] of all the territories of the Ohrid [[Archdiocese]] by the Assembly of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On [[December 25]], 2003, he was elected Chairman of the [[Holy Synod]] of Bishops of the Orthodox Ohrid Archdiocese, after it had been constituted. <br />
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On [[May 24]], 2005, on the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], he was confirmed by his Holiness, the Archbishop of Peć, Metropolitan of Belgrade and Karlovci, and Patriarch of Serbia, Pavle, to be Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje in accordance with the Niš Agreement. On the same day, there was an announcement of the Patriarchal and the Assembly's Tomos for Autonomy of the Ohrid Archdiocese, with Metr. John as the Chairman of the Holy Synod of Bishops.<br />
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==Testimonies for the faith==<br />
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[[Image:Archbishop Jovan arrested.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan under arrest]]<br />
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Since joining the canonical orthodox church, the persecution began, initially with the illegal expelling from his residence. He is persecued by the state, FYRO Macedonia, was imprisoned several times, and Amnesty International declared him ''a prisoner of conscience''[http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html].<br />
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While in prison, he was not allowed visitors, apart from his closest family - his parents and his sister. [http://www.southeasteurope.org/subpage.php?sub_site=2&id=14827&head=hl&site=5]<br />
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Also, he was not allowed to take communion in the prison, the priests who came with the Sacraments were not allowed to meet him. <br />
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===Detentions===<br />
He was detained under custody many times by the authorities of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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He was sentenced to a suspended punishment one year of imprisonment for the criminal offense of "performing unauthorized activities" because he had entered a [[church]] to baptize a female infant in 2004. <br />
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===First Imprisonment===<br />
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The Court of Appeal in Bitola sentenced him to eighteen months of imprisonment in 2005 as judgment for a criminal offense of "incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, discord and intolerance." The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina<br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[July 26]], 2005 and served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of these three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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===Second Imprisonment===<br />
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He was sentenced for the second time, on charges raised by the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]] for "Embezzlement" of a donation of 57.000 Euro - money he never touched nor used and which was timely handed over to the court of first instance in Veles, in the first moment when this was requested by the donor, who later testified before the court that Archbishop Jovan is innocent. Based on the donor's testimony the Archbishop was twice liberated, and the third time, after a severe political pressure, he was sentenced to imprisonment. <br />
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As a second defendant he was sentenced to a higher prison term (2 years) than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[August 8]], 2006 and served 256 days before being released. <br />
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===Third trial===<br />
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A third trial for "Embezzlement" is in process, also upon charges of the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]. He was already found not guilty on the charges twice, but the Court of Appeal has rejected these verdicts.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox Churches===<br />
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The orthodox churches reacted upon the imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan and appealed for his release.<br />
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* [[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
* The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
* Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
* The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support to the Archbishop Jovan, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
* [[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
* [[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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==Books==<br />
*''A Short History of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric'' (Ohrid, 2007)<br />
*''The Freedom in the Prison'' (Skopje, 2007)<br />
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==Studies and Articles==<br />
* Ecclesiological Heresis of the Schismatical Organization in R. Macedonia<br />
* Contribution of the Church in the Prisons<br />
* Theological and Historical Aspects of the Church Schism in R. Macedonia and its Overcoming<br />
* The Educational Character of Orthodox Christianity<br />
* Theology and Ecology<br />
* The Theology of St. Theophylact of Ohrid in His Commentaries on the Gospel of Matthew<br />
* The Holy Relics - A Seal of a Sanctified Life<br />
* Baptism and Chrismation<br />
* The Eucharist of the Church as the Basis of the <br />
* The One and Many Through an Ecclesiological Aspect<br />
* The Crisis is to Unite the Christians<br />
* A Witness<br />
* A Verdict for the Communism<br />
* The Church is One<br />
* Autonomy or Autocephaly<br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje, Kyr Kyr John VI]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html Article in 'The Orthodox Word' periodical]<br />
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==See also==<br />
[http://www.pravmir.ru/article_1203.html Православие и мир - Современные гонения на православных в Македонии]<br />
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[[Category:Bishops]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84620Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-02T19:35:02Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Short history */ typo</p>
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The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement.<ref> The '''Draft Agreement On Reestablishment Of Church Unity ("Nis Agreement")''' was signed in Nis, on [[May 17]], 2002.</ref><br />
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On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
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The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with all other Orthodox churches.<br />
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The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]]. <br />
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==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
[[Image:Synod of Archbishopric of Ohrid.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Holy Synod of Bishops of the autonomous Ohrid Archbishopric with the Patriarch Paul of Serbia, 2004]]<br />
The Holy Synod of bishops was constituted on December 23, 2003 in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom". The current members of the Synod are:<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
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==Persecution==<br />
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===Short history===<br />
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Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
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In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
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[[Image:Destroyed temple Monastery Chrysostomos.jpg|left|thumb|400px|The destruction of the church in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom"]]<br />
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A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
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The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
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The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004. <br />
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[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedonia, <br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
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The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
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The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
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Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
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===Current situation===<br />
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The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
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'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
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The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
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Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
[[Image:Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Liturgy, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan]]<br />
====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
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====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
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====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
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====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
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====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
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====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
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====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
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====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
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====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
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====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
<br />
The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
<br />
====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
<br />
==References== <br />
<div class><references/></div><br />
<br />
==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html The Orthodox Word]<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
[http://www.pravmir.ru/article_1203.html Православие и мир - Современные гонения на православных в Македонии]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
<br />
[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jovan_VI_(Vrani%C5%A1kovski)_of_Ohrid&diff=84619Jovan VI (Vraniškovski) of Ohrid2009-06-02T19:33:44Z<p>K.panteleimon: studies</p>
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<div>[[Image:Passover2008_Jerusalem_detail.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan with the Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilus serve Divine Liturgy at Christ's grave, Pascha 2008]]<br />
<br />
His Grace '''Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)''' is the [[Archbishop]] of [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid|Ohrid]] and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje.<br />
<br />
==Life==<br />
<br />
[[Image:21 Century Confessor.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid - a 21st Century Confessor]]<br />
<br />
He was born on [[February 28]], 1966, in Bitola, Yugoslavia, and [[baptism|baptized]] as an Orthodox Christian named Zoran. He completed his primary school and mathematical high school in his native town, receiving many awards for achievements in the fields of science and sports. In 1985, after having served his military obligation in Sarajevo, he began studies at the Faculty of Civil Engineering in Skopje, graduating in 1990.<br />
<br />
Later in 1990, he enrolled the Faculty of Theology in Belgrade while working as a civil engineer with the Metropolitanate of Bitola. While employed by the [[metropolis]], he established its library in collaboration with the local University Library of Bitola, while serving also as the new library's first librarian. During his two and half years in this position the young Zoran gave a series of lectures.<br />
<br />
In 1993, he left Bitola for Belgrade to continue his studies in theology, graduating in June 1995. Immediately, he began his master's studies at the Department of Systematic Theology (Dogmatics). At the end of 1995, he moved to Thessalonica in Greece to learn Greek and enroll for postgraduate studies. In Thessalonica, he worked on his doctorate and a dissertation entitled: ''The Unity of the Church and the Contemporary Ecclesiological Problem''.<br />
<br />
On [[February 7]], 1998, he took [[monasticism|monastic]] vows, was tonsured a [[monk]] with the name Jovan (John), and was [[ordination|ordained]] a [[deacon]]. The following day, [[February 8]], he was ordained to the [[priest]]hood, becoming a [[hieromonk]]. On [[July 19]], 1998, Fr. John was [[consecration of a bishop|consecrated]] a [[bishop]] with the title of Bishop of Dremvica and assigned as [[auxiliary bishop|vicar]] to the Bishop of Prespa and Pelagonia. In this position, and in addition to taking part in theological consultations, Bp. John led the effort for reconstruction of the Cathedral Church of St. Great Martyr Demetrius in Bitola. In March 2000, he was assigned as administrator of the Metropolitanate of Bregalnica. In November 2000, Bp. John was elected Bishop of Veles and Vardar Valley and enthroned on [[December 4]], 2000. <br />
<br />
==Overcoming the Schism==<br />
<br />
Leading the Holy Metropolitanate of Veles and Vardar Valley, on [[June 22]], 2002, Metr. John responded to the summons for liturgical and canonical unity with the Patriarchate of Peć by the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Serbia|Serbia]], [[Pavel (Stojcevic) of Serbia|Pavle]]. Together with all his clergy and faithful of his Metropolitanate, Metr. John was the only bishop of the schismatic Macedonian Orthodox Church who responded positively.<br />
<br />
A few days later, he was expelled from the seat of the Metropolitanate together with the monastic community living with him. This was done illegally and without a court warrant by the Police of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
<br />
On [[September 23]], 2002, Metr. John was appointed [[Exarch]] of all the territories of the Ohrid [[Archdiocese]] by the Assembly of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On [[December 25]], 2003, he was elected Chairman of the [[Holy Synod]] of Bishops of the Orthodox Ohrid Archdiocese, after it had been constituted. <br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, on the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], he was confirmed by his Holiness, the Archbishop of Peć, Metropolitan of Belgrade and Karlovci, and Patriarch of Serbia, Pavle, to be Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje in accordance with the Niš Agreement. On the same day, there was an announcement of the Patriarchal and the Assembly's Tomos for Autonomy of the Ohrid Archdiocese, with Metr. John as the Chairman of the Holy Synod of Bishops.<br />
<br />
==Testimonies for the faith==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Archbishop Jovan arrested.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan under arrest]]<br />
<br />
Since joining the canonical orthodox church, the persecution began, initially with the illegal expelling from his residence. He is persecued by the state, FYRO Macedonia, was imprisoned several times, and Amnesty International declared him ''a prisoner of conscience''[http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html].<br />
<br />
While in prison, he was not allowed visitors, apart from his closest family - his parents and his sister. [http://www.southeasteurope.org/subpage.php?sub_site=2&id=14827&head=hl&site=5]<br />
<br />
Also, he was not allowed to take communion in the prison, the priests who came with the Sacraments were not allowed to meet him. <br />
<br />
===Detentions===<br />
He was detained under custody many times by the authorities of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
<br />
He was sentenced to a suspended punishment one year of imprisonment for the criminal offense of "performing unauthorized activities" because he had entered a [[church]] to baptize a female infant in 2004. <br />
<br />
===First Imprisonment===<br />
<br />
The Court of Appeal in Bitola sentenced him to eighteen months of imprisonment in 2005 as judgment for a criminal offense of "incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, discord and intolerance." The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina<br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
<br />
He was imprisoned on [[July 26]], 2005 and served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of these three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
<br />
===Second Imprisonment===<br />
<br />
He was sentenced for the second time, on charges raised by the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]] for "Embezzlement" of a donation of 57.000 Euro - money he never touched nor used and which was timely handed over to the court of first instance in Veles, in the first moment when this was requested by the donor, who later testified before the court that Archbishop Jovan is innocent. Based on the donor's testimony the Archbishop was twice liberated, and the third time, after a severe political pressure, he was sentenced to imprisonment. <br />
<br />
As a second defendant he was sentenced to a higher prison term (2 years) than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. <br />
<br />
He was imprisoned on [[August 8]], 2006 and served 256 days before being released. <br />
<br />
===Third trial===<br />
<br />
A third trial for "Embezzlement" is in process, also upon charges of the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]. He was already found not guilty on the charges twice, but the Court of Appeal has rejected these verdicts.<br />
<br />
===Reactions of the Orthodox Churches===<br />
<br />
The orthodox churches reacted upon the imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan and appealed for his release.<br />
<br />
* [[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
* The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
* Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
* The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support to the Archbishop Jovan, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
* [[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
* [[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
<br />
==Books==<br />
*''A Short History of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric'' (Ohrid, 2007)<br />
*''The Freedom in the Prison'' (Skopje, 2007)<br />
<br />
==Studies and Articles==<br />
* Ecclesiological Heresis of the Schismatical Organization in R. Macedonia<br />
* Contribution of the Church in the Prisons<br />
* Theological and Historical Aspects of the Church Schism in R. Macedonia and its Overcoming<br />
* The Educational Character of Orthodox Christianity<br />
* Theology and Ecology<br />
* The Theology of St. Theophylact of Ohrid in His Interpretation of the Gospel of Matthew<br />
* The Holy Relics - A Seal of a Sanctified Life<br />
* Baptism and Chrismation<br />
* The Eucharist of the Church as the Basis of the <br />
* The One and Many Through an Ecclesiological Aspect<br />
* The Crisis is to Unite the Christians<br />
* A Witness<br />
* A Verdict for the Communism<br />
* The Church is One<br />
* Autonomy or Autocephaly<br />
<br />
<br />
==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje, Kyr Kyr John VI]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html Article in 'The Orthodox Word' periodical]<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
[http://www.pravmir.ru/article_1203.html Православие и мир - Современные гонения на православных в Македонии]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Bishops]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jovan_VI_(Vrani%C5%A1kovski)_of_Ohrid&diff=84618Jovan VI (Vraniškovski) of Ohrid2009-06-02T19:21:58Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Testimonies for the faith */ imprisonment</p>
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<div>[[Image:Passover2008_Jerusalem_detail.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan with the Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilus serve Divine Liturgy at Christ's grave, Pascha 2008]]<br />
<br />
His Grace '''Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)''' is the [[Archbishop]] of [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid|Ohrid]] and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje.<br />
<br />
==Life==<br />
<br />
[[Image:21 Century Confessor.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid - a 21st Century Confessor]]<br />
<br />
He was born on [[February 28]], 1966, in Bitola, Yugoslavia, and [[baptism|baptized]] as an Orthodox Christian named Zoran. He completed his primary school and mathematical high school in his native town, receiving many awards for achievements in the fields of science and sports. In 1985, after having served his military obligation in Sarajevo, he began studies at the Faculty of Civil Engineering in Skopje, graduating in 1990.<br />
<br />
Later in 1990, he enrolled the Faculty of Theology in Belgrade while working as a civil engineer with the Metropolitanate of Bitola. While employed by the [[metropolis]], he established its library in collaboration with the local University Library of Bitola, while serving also as the new library's first librarian. During his two and half years in this position the young Zoran gave a series of lectures.<br />
<br />
In 1993, he left Bitola for Belgrade to continue his studies in theology, graduating in June 1995. Immediately, he began his master's studies at the Department of Systematic Theology (Dogmatics). At the end of 1995, he moved to Thessalonica in Greece to learn Greek and enroll for postgraduate studies. In Thessalonica, he worked on his doctorate and a dissertation entitled: ''The Unity of the Church and the Contemporary Ecclesiological Problem''.<br />
<br />
On [[February 7]], 1998, he took [[monasticism|monastic]] vows, was tonsured a [[monk]] with the name Jovan (John), and was [[ordination|ordained]] a [[deacon]]. The following day, [[February 8]], he was ordained to the [[priest]]hood, becoming a [[hieromonk]]. On [[July 19]], 1998, Fr. John was [[consecration of a bishop|consecrated]] a [[bishop]] with the title of Bishop of Dremvica and assigned as [[auxiliary bishop|vicar]] to the Bishop of Prespa and Pelagonia. In this position, and in addition to taking part in theological consultations, Bp. John led the effort for reconstruction of the Cathedral Church of St. Great Martyr Demetrius in Bitola. In March 2000, he was assigned as administrator of the Metropolitanate of Bregalnica. In November 2000, Bp. John was elected Bishop of Veles and Vardar Valley and enthroned on [[December 4]], 2000. <br />
<br />
==Overcoming the Schism==<br />
<br />
Leading the Holy Metropolitanate of Veles and Vardar Valley, on [[June 22]], 2002, Metr. John responded to the summons for liturgical and canonical unity with the Patriarchate of Peć by the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Serbia|Serbia]], [[Pavel (Stojcevic) of Serbia|Pavle]]. Together with all his clergy and faithful of his Metropolitanate, Metr. John was the only bishop of the schismatic Macedonian Orthodox Church who responded positively.<br />
<br />
A few days later, he was expelled from the seat of the Metropolitanate together with the monastic community living with him. This was done illegally and without a court warrant by the Police of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
<br />
On [[September 23]], 2002, Metr. John was appointed [[Exarch]] of all the territories of the Ohrid [[Archdiocese]] by the Assembly of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On [[December 25]], 2003, he was elected Chairman of the [[Holy Synod]] of Bishops of the Orthodox Ohrid Archdiocese, after it had been constituted. <br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, on the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], he was confirmed by his Holiness, the Archbishop of Peć, Metropolitan of Belgrade and Karlovci, and Patriarch of Serbia, Pavle, to be Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje in accordance with the Niš Agreement. On the same day, there was an announcement of the Patriarchal and the Assembly's Tomos for Autonomy of the Ohrid Archdiocese, with Metr. John as the Chairman of the Holy Synod of Bishops.<br />
<br />
==Testimonies for the faith==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Archbishop Jovan arrested.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan under arrest]]<br />
<br />
Since joining the canonical orthodox church, the persecution began, initially with the illegal expelling from his residence. He is persecued by the state, FYRO Macedonia, was imprisoned several times, and Amnesty International declared him ''a prisoner of conscience''[http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html].<br />
<br />
While in prison, he was not allowed visitors, apart from his closest family - his parents and his sister. [http://www.southeasteurope.org/subpage.php?sub_site=2&id=14827&head=hl&site=5]<br />
<br />
Also, he was not allowed to take communion in the prison, the priests who came with the Sacraments were not allowed to meet him. <br />
<br />
===Detentions===<br />
He was detained under custody many times by the authorities of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
<br />
He was sentenced to a suspended punishment one year of imprisonment for the criminal offense of "performing unauthorized activities" because he had entered a [[church]] to baptize a female infant in 2004. <br />
<br />
===First Imprisonment===<br />
<br />
The Court of Appeal in Bitola sentenced him to eighteen months of imprisonment in 2005 as judgment for a criminal offense of "incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, discord and intolerance." The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina<br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
<br />
He was imprisoned on [[July 26]], 2005 and served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of these three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
<br />
===Second Imprisonment===<br />
<br />
He was sentenced for the second time, on charges raised by the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]] for "Embezzlement" of a donation of 57.000 Euro - money he never touched nor used and which was timely handed over to the court of first instance in Veles, in the first moment when this was requested by the donor, who later testified before the court that Archbishop Jovan is innocent. Based on the donor's testimony the Archbishop was twice liberated, and the third time, after a severe political pressure, he was sentenced to imprisonment. <br />
<br />
As a second defendant he was sentenced to a higher prison term (2 years) than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. <br />
<br />
He was imprisoned on [[August 8]], 2006 and served 256 days before being released. <br />
<br />
===Third trial===<br />
<br />
A third trial for "Embezzlement" is in process, also upon charges of the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]. He was already found not guilty on the charges twice, but the Court of Appeal has rejected these verdicts.<br />
<br />
===Reactions of the Orthodox Churches===<br />
<br />
The orthodox churches reacted upon the imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan and appealed for his release.<br />
<br />
* [[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
* The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
* Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
* The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support to the Archbishop Jovan, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
* [[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
* [[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
<br />
==Books==<br />
*''A Short History of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric'' (Ohrid, 2007)<br />
*''The Freedom in the Prison'' (Skopje, 2007))<br />
<br />
==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje, Kyr Kyr John VI]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html Article in 'The Orthodox Word' periodical]<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
[http://www.pravmir.ru/article_1203.html Православие и мир - Современные гонения на православных в Македонии]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Bishops]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jovan_VI_(Vrani%C5%A1kovski)_of_Ohrid&diff=84617Jovan VI (Vraniškovski) of Ohrid2009-06-02T19:11:01Z<p>K.panteleimon: see also</p>
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<div>[[Image:Passover2008_Jerusalem_detail.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan with the Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilus serve Divine Liturgy at Christ's grave, Pascha 2008]]<br />
<br />
His Grace '''Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)''' is the [[Archbishop]] of [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid|Ohrid]] and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje.<br />
<br />
==Life==<br />
<br />
[[Image:21 Century Confessor.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid - a 21st Century Confessor]]<br />
<br />
He was born on [[February 28]], 1966, in Bitola, Yugoslavia, and [[baptism|baptized]] as an Orthodox Christian named Zoran. He completed his primary school and mathematical high school in his native town, receiving many awards for achievements in the fields of science and sports. In 1985, after having served his military obligation in Sarajevo, he began studies at the Faculty of Civil Engineering in Skopje, graduating in 1990.<br />
<br />
Later in 1990, he enrolled the Faculty of Theology in Belgrade while working as a civil engineer with the Metropolitanate of Bitola. While employed by the [[metropolis]], he established its library in collaboration with the local University Library of Bitola, while serving also as the new library's first librarian. During his two and half years in this position the young Zoran gave a series of lectures.<br />
<br />
In 1993, he left Bitola for Belgrade to continue his studies in theology, graduating in June 1995. Immediately, he began his master's studies at the Department of Systematic Theology (Dogmatics). At the end of 1995, he moved to Thessalonica in Greece to learn Greek and enroll for postgraduate studies. In Thessalonica, he worked on his doctorate and a dissertation entitled: ''The Unity of the Church and the Contemporary Ecclesiological Problem''.<br />
<br />
On [[February 7]], 1998, he took [[monasticism|monastic]] vows, was tonsured a [[monk]] with the name Jovan (John), and was [[ordination|ordained]] a [[deacon]]. The following day, [[February 8]], he was ordained to the [[priest]]hood, becoming a [[hieromonk]]. On [[July 19]], 1998, Fr. John was [[consecration of a bishop|consecrated]] a [[bishop]] with the title of Bishop of Dremvica and assigned as [[auxiliary bishop|vicar]] to the Bishop of Prespa and Pelagonia. In this position, and in addition to taking part in theological consultations, Bp. John led the effort for reconstruction of the Cathedral Church of St. Great Martyr Demetrius in Bitola. In March 2000, he was assigned as administrator of the Metropolitanate of Bregalnica. In November 2000, Bp. John was elected Bishop of Veles and Vardar Valley and enthroned on [[December 4]], 2000. <br />
<br />
==Overcoming the Schism==<br />
<br />
Leading the Holy Metropolitanate of Veles and Vardar Valley, on [[June 22]], 2002, Metr. John responded to the summons for liturgical and canonical unity with the Patriarchate of Peć by the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Serbia|Serbia]], [[Pavel (Stojcevic) of Serbia|Pavle]]. Together with all his clergy and faithful of his Metropolitanate, Metr. John was the only bishop of the schismatic Macedonian Orthodox Church who responded positively.<br />
<br />
A few days later, he was expelled from the seat of the Metropolitanate together with the monastic community living with him. This was done illegally and without a court warrant by the Police of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
<br />
On [[September 23]], 2002, Metr. John was appointed [[Exarch]] of all the territories of the Ohrid [[Archdiocese]] by the Assembly of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On [[December 25]], 2003, he was elected Chairman of the [[Holy Synod]] of Bishops of the Orthodox Ohrid Archdiocese, after it had been constituted. <br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, on the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], he was confirmed by his Holiness, the Archbishop of Peć, Metropolitan of Belgrade and Karlovci, and Patriarch of Serbia, Pavle, to be Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje in accordance with the Niš Agreement. On the same day, there was an announcement of the Patriarchal and the Assembly's Tomos for Autonomy of the Ohrid Archdiocese, with Metr. John as the Chairman of the Holy Synod of Bishops.<br />
<br />
==Testimonies for the faith==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Archbishop Jovan arrested.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan under arrest]]<br />
<br />
Since joining the canonical orthodox church, the persecution began, initially with the illegal expelling from his residence. He is persecued by the state, FYRO Macedonia, was imprisoned several times, and Amnesty International declared him ''a prisoner of conscience''[http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html].<br />
<br />
===Detentions===<br />
He was detained under custody many times by the authorities of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
<br />
He was sentenced to a suspended punishment one year of imprisonment for the criminal offense of "performing unauthorized activities" because he had entered a [[church]] to baptize a female infant in 2004. <br />
<br />
===First Imprisonment===<br />
<br />
The Court of Appeal in Bitola sentenced him to eighteen months of imprisonment in 2005 as judgment for a criminal offense of "incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, discord and intolerance." The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina<br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
<br />
He was imprisoned on [[July 26]], 2005 and served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of these three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
<br />
===Second Imprisonment===<br />
<br />
He was sentenced for the second time, on charges raised by the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]] for "Embezzlement" of a donation of 57.000 Euro - money he never touched nor used and which was timely handed over to the court of first instance in Veles, in the first moment when this was requested by the donor, who later testified before the court that Archbishop Jovan is innocent. Based on the donor's testimony the Archbishop was twice liberated, and the third time, after a severe political pressure, he was sentenced to imprisonment. <br />
<br />
As a second defendant he was sentenced to a higher prison term (2 years) than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. <br />
<br />
He was imprisoned on [[August 8]], 2006 and served 256 days before being released. <br />
<br />
===Third trial===<br />
<br />
A third trial for "Embezzlement" is in process, also upon charges of the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]. He was already found not guilty on the charges twice, but the Court of Appeal has rejected these verdicts.<br />
<br />
===Reactions of the Orthodox Churches===<br />
<br />
The orthodox churches reacted upon the imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan and appealed for his release.<br />
<br />
* [[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
* The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
* Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
* The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support to the Archbishop Jovan, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
* [[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
* [[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
<br />
==Books==<br />
*''A Short History of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric'' (Ohrid, 2007)<br />
*''The Freedom in the Prison'' (Skopje, 2007))<br />
<br />
==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje, Kyr Kyr John VI]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html Article in 'The Orthodox Word' periodical]<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
[http://www.pravmir.ru/article_1203.html Православие и мир - Современные гонения на православных в Македонии]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Bishops]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84616Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-02T19:10:26Z<p>K.panteleimon: see also</p>
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<div>{{church|<br />
name=Autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid[[Image:Orhodox Ohrid Archbishopric Logo en.gif|200px|center|Archbishopric of Ohrid]]|<br />
founder=/|<br />
independence=2005|<br />
recognition= 2005|<br />
primate=[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje|<br />
hq=Skopje, R. Macedonia|<br />
territory=R. Macedonia|<br />
possessions=&mdash;|<br />
language=Macedonian, [[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]], Serbian chant|<br />
calendar=[[Julian Calendar]]|<br />
population=N/A|<br />
website=[http://poa-info.org/eng Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric]<br />
}}<br />
<br />
The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement.<ref> The '''Draft Agreement On Reestablishment Of Church Unity ("Nis Agreement")''' was signed in Nis, on [[May 17]], 2002.</ref><br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
<br />
The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with all other Orthodox churches.<br />
<br />
The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]]. <br />
<br />
==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
[[Image:Synod of Archbishopric of Ohrid.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Holy Synod of Bishops of the autonomous Ohrid Archbishopric with the Patriarch Paul of Serbia, 2004]]<br />
The Holy Synod of bishops was constituted on December 23, 2003 in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom". The current members of the Synod are:<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
<br />
==Persecution==<br />
<br />
===Short history===<br />
<br />
Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
<br />
In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
<br />
[[Image:Destroyed temple Monastery Chrysostomos.jpg|left|thumb|400px|The destruction church in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom"]]<br />
<br />
<br />
A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
<br />
The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004. <br />
<br />
[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedonia, <br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
<br />
He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
<br />
The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
<br />
The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
===Current situation===<br />
<br />
The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
<br />
'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
<br />
The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
<br />
===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
[[Image:Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Liturgy, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan]]<br />
====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
<br />
====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
<br />
====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
<br />
====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
<br />
====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
<br />
====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
<br />
===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
<br />
====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
<br />
====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
<br />
====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
<br />
The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
<br />
====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
<br />
==References== <br />
<div class><references/></div><br />
<br />
==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html The Orthodox Word]<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
[http://www.pravmir.ru/article_1203.html Православие и мир - Современные гонения на православных в Македонии]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
<br />
[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84615Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-02T18:54:19Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Short history */ typo</p>
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<div>{{church|<br />
name=Autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid[[Image:Orhodox Ohrid Archbishopric Logo en.gif|200px|center|Archbishopric of Ohrid]]|<br />
founder=/|<br />
independence=2005|<br />
recognition= 2005|<br />
primate=[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje|<br />
hq=Skopje, R. Macedonia|<br />
territory=R. Macedonia|<br />
possessions=&mdash;|<br />
language=Macedonian, [[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]], Serbian chant|<br />
calendar=[[Julian Calendar]]|<br />
population=N/A|<br />
website=[http://poa-info.org/eng Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric]<br />
}}<br />
<br />
The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement.<ref> The '''Draft Agreement On Reestablishment Of Church Unity ("Nis Agreement")''' was signed in Nis, on [[May 17]], 2002.</ref><br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
<br />
The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with all other Orthodox churches.<br />
<br />
The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]]. <br />
<br />
==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
[[Image:Synod of Archbishopric of Ohrid.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Holy Synod of Bishops of the autonomous Ohrid Archbishopric with the Patriarch Paul of Serbia, 2004]]<br />
The Holy Synod of bishops was constituted on December 23, 2003 in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom". The current members of the Synod are:<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
<br />
==Persecution==<br />
<br />
===Short history===<br />
<br />
Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
<br />
In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
<br />
[[Image:Destroyed temple Monastery Chrysostomos.jpg|left|thumb|400px|The destruction church in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom"]]<br />
<br />
<br />
A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
<br />
The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004. <br />
<br />
[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedonia, <br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
<br />
He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
<br />
The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
<br />
The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
===Current situation===<br />
<br />
The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
<br />
'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
<br />
The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
<br />
===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
[[Image:Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Liturgy, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan]]<br />
====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
<br />
====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
<br />
====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
<br />
====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
<br />
====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
<br />
====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
<br />
===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
<br />
====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
<br />
====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
<br />
====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
<br />
The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
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====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
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====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
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==References== <br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html The Orthodox Word]<br />
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[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
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[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jovan_VI_(Vrani%C5%A1kovski)_of_Ohrid&diff=84614Jovan VI (Vraniškovski) of Ohrid2009-06-02T18:51:10Z<p>K.panteleimon: image - 21st century confessor</p>
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<div>[[Image:Passover2008_Jerusalem_detail.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan with the Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilus serve Divine Liturgy at Christ's grave, Pascha 2008]]<br />
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His Grace '''Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)''' is the [[Archbishop]] of [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid|Ohrid]] and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje.<br />
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==Life==<br />
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[[Image:21 Century Confessor.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid - a 21st Century Confessor]]<br />
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He was born on [[February 28]], 1966, in Bitola, Yugoslavia, and [[baptism|baptized]] as an Orthodox Christian named Zoran. He completed his primary school and mathematical high school in his native town, receiving many awards for achievements in the fields of science and sports. In 1985, after having served his military obligation in Sarajevo, he began studies at the Faculty of Civil Engineering in Skopje, graduating in 1990.<br />
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Later in 1990, he enrolled the Faculty of Theology in Belgrade while working as a civil engineer with the Metropolitanate of Bitola. While employed by the [[metropolis]], he established its library in collaboration with the local University Library of Bitola, while serving also as the new library's first librarian. During his two and half years in this position the young Zoran gave a series of lectures.<br />
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In 1993, he left Bitola for Belgrade to continue his studies in theology, graduating in June 1995. Immediately, he began his master's studies at the Department of Systematic Theology (Dogmatics). At the end of 1995, he moved to Thessalonica in Greece to learn Greek and enroll for postgraduate studies. In Thessalonica, he worked on his doctorate and a dissertation entitled: ''The Unity of the Church and the Contemporary Ecclesiological Problem''.<br />
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On [[February 7]], 1998, he took [[monasticism|monastic]] vows, was tonsured a [[monk]] with the name Jovan (John), and was [[ordination|ordained]] a [[deacon]]. The following day, [[February 8]], he was ordained to the [[priest]]hood, becoming a [[hieromonk]]. On [[July 19]], 1998, Fr. John was [[consecration of a bishop|consecrated]] a [[bishop]] with the title of Bishop of Dremvica and assigned as [[auxiliary bishop|vicar]] to the Bishop of Prespa and Pelagonia. In this position, and in addition to taking part in theological consultations, Bp. John led the effort for reconstruction of the Cathedral Church of St. Great Martyr Demetrius in Bitola. In March 2000, he was assigned as administrator of the Metropolitanate of Bregalnica. In November 2000, Bp. John was elected Bishop of Veles and Vardar Valley and enthroned on [[December 4]], 2000. <br />
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==Overcoming the Schism==<br />
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Leading the Holy Metropolitanate of Veles and Vardar Valley, on [[June 22]], 2002, Metr. John responded to the summons for liturgical and canonical unity with the Patriarchate of Peć by the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Serbia|Serbia]], [[Pavel (Stojcevic) of Serbia|Pavle]]. Together with all his clergy and faithful of his Metropolitanate, Metr. John was the only bishop of the schismatic Macedonian Orthodox Church who responded positively.<br />
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A few days later, he was expelled from the seat of the Metropolitanate together with the monastic community living with him. This was done illegally and without a court warrant by the Police of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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On [[September 23]], 2002, Metr. John was appointed [[Exarch]] of all the territories of the Ohrid [[Archdiocese]] by the Assembly of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On [[December 25]], 2003, he was elected Chairman of the [[Holy Synod]] of Bishops of the Orthodox Ohrid Archdiocese, after it had been constituted. <br />
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On [[May 24]], 2005, on the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], he was confirmed by his Holiness, the Archbishop of Peć, Metropolitan of Belgrade and Karlovci, and Patriarch of Serbia, Pavle, to be Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje in accordance with the Niš Agreement. On the same day, there was an announcement of the Patriarchal and the Assembly's Tomos for Autonomy of the Ohrid Archdiocese, with Metr. John as the Chairman of the Holy Synod of Bishops.<br />
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==Testimonies for the faith==<br />
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[[Image:Archbishop Jovan arrested.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan under arrest]]<br />
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Since joining the canonical orthodox church, the persecution began, initially with the illegal expelling from his residence. He is persecued by the state, FYRO Macedonia, was imprisoned several times, and Amnesty International declared him ''a prisoner of conscience''[http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html].<br />
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===Detentions===<br />
He was detained under custody many times by the authorities of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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He was sentenced to a suspended punishment one year of imprisonment for the criminal offense of "performing unauthorized activities" because he had entered a [[church]] to baptize a female infant in 2004. <br />
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===First Imprisonment===<br />
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The Court of Appeal in Bitola sentenced him to eighteen months of imprisonment in 2005 as judgment for a criminal offense of "incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, discord and intolerance." The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina<br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[July 26]], 2005 and served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of these three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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===Second Imprisonment===<br />
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He was sentenced for the second time, on charges raised by the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]] for "Embezzlement" of a donation of 57.000 Euro - money he never touched nor used and which was timely handed over to the court of first instance in Veles, in the first moment when this was requested by the donor, who later testified before the court that Archbishop Jovan is innocent. Based on the donor's testimony the Archbishop was twice liberated, and the third time, after a severe political pressure, he was sentenced to imprisonment. <br />
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As a second defendant he was sentenced to a higher prison term (2 years) than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[August 8]], 2006 and served 256 days before being released. <br />
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===Third trial===<br />
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A third trial for "Embezzlement" is in process, also upon charges of the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]. He was already found not guilty on the charges twice, but the Court of Appeal has rejected these verdicts.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox Churches===<br />
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The orthodox churches reacted upon the imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan and appealed for his release.<br />
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* [[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
* The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
* Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
* The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support to the Archbishop Jovan, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
* [[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
* [[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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==Books==<br />
*''A Short History of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric'' (Ohrid, 2007)<br />
*''The Freedom in the Prison'' (Skopje, 2007))<br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje, Kyr Kyr John VI]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html Article in 'The Orthodox Word' periodical]<br />
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[[Category:Bishops]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84613Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-02T18:42:14Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */ typo</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: To answer your two questions:<br />
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: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
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: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
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: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
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:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravenna in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
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:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
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:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia is due to the fact that two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
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:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:39, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Furthermore, here is a denial of the statement "recognized only by Serbia", and an explanation how autonomy is percieved in the orthodox world by Metropolitan Kiril of Varna, (canonical) Orthodox Church of Bulgaria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNsNcGH5nY who, asked about the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid and how the Church of Bulgaria sees this matter, says that "when one a canonical orthodox Church reaches a decision, we accept that without disputes. For us it is vaild." and later "it is not correct that I comment on the decisions of another Church, it is their internal matter". He gives nice explanations, please take your time to hear his statements.<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 18:29, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
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Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
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Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
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: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
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: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Autonomy&diff=84612Talk:Autonomy2009-06-02T18:41:52Z<p>K.panteleimon: Statement of Kiril, Metropolitan of Varna, on autonomy and on the position of the Archbishopric of Ohrid</p>
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<div>Father Andrew, you removed the Archbishopric of Ohrid from the list of autonomous churches, with a short note that it is "recognized only by Serbia". <br />
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Your argument is in contradiction with the definition of autonomy in this page which states that: "is the status of a church within the Orthodox Church whose primatial bishop is confirmed by one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches."<br />
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Assumably, by Serbia you mean the Church of Serbia - which is autocephalous canonical orthodox Church (complies to the requirement "one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches"). It issued a tomos for autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and confirmed the primatial bishop to be Archbishop of Ohrid. <br />
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If there are some other criteria that has to be met - they should be written on this page too.<br />
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It is not understandible why the Church of China, which unfortunately, has no clergy (no bishops, no priests) can be listed, and a canonical church that has (at this moment) four bishops and is in full communion with all canonical orthodox churches, can not be listed on this page?<br />
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[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 10:05, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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A denial of the statement "recognized only by Serbia", and an explanation how autonomy is percieved in the orthodox world by Metropolitan Kiril of Varna, (canonical) Orthodox Church of Bulgaria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNsNcGH5nY who, asked about the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid and how the Church of Bulgaria sees this matter, says that "when one a canonical orthodox Church reaches a decision, we accept that without disputes. For us it is vaild." and later "it is not correct that I comment on the decisions of another Church, it is their internal matter". He gives nice explanations, please take your time to hear his statements.<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 18:29, June 2, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84611Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-02T18:40:34Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: To answer your two questions:<br />
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: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
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: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
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: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
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:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravenna in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
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:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
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:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia is due to the fact that two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
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:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:39, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Furthermore, here is a denial of the statement "recognized only by Serbia", and an explanation how autonomy is percieved in the orthodox world by Metropolitan Kiril of Varna, (canonical) Orthodox Church of Bulgaria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNsNcGH5nY who, asked about the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid and how the Church of Bulgaria sees this matter, says that "when one a canonical orthodox Church reaches a decision, we accept that without disputes. For us it is vaild." and later "it is not correct that I comment on the decisions of another Church, it is their internal matter". He gives nice explanations on, please take your time to hear his statements.<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 18:29, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
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Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
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Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
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: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
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: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84610Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-02T18:29:36Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */ statement of Metropoitan Kiril of Varna, Orthodox Church of Bulgaria</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: To answer your two questions:<br />
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: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
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: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
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: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
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:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravenna in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
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:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
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:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia is due to the fact that two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
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:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:39, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Furthermore, here is a denial of the statement "recognized only by Serbia", and an explanation how autonomy is percieved in the orthodox world by Metropolitan Kiril of Varna, (canonical) Orthodox Church of Bulgaria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLNsNcGH5nY who, asked about the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid, says that the Church of Bulgaria "does not comment on the decisions of the other orthodox Churches" explaining that "it is their internal matter". <br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 18:29, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
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Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
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Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
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: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
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: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Macedonian_Orthodox_Church&diff=84604Talk:Macedonian Orthodox Church2009-06-02T14:51:01Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Independence */</p>
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<div>This article will need some serious work in order for it to conform to NPOV standards, especially as this particular group is the subject of much controversy. I'm also concerned that this article, as it now stands, may violate copyright from [http://www.mpc.org.mk/English/MPC/history-mpc.asp this site].{{User:ASDamick/sig}} 19:20, December 20, 2005 (CST)<br />
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Metropolitan Nahum of Strumica owns www.mpc.org.mk either in his own right or as diocesan bishop. He also owns in some right Premin Portal. The editor of Premin Portal says he is please to have this article posted on orthodoxwiki. <br />
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It cetainly does need some further elucidation.<br />
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However, the claims put forward there by Met Nahum have never been denied by the Serbian authorities.<br />
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chrisg 2006-05-01 : 0003 EAST<br />
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I'm sure that Archbishop Stefan as well as most of the bishops are elated that the material in question was used on Wikipedia. A larger issue in my mind is whether it is appropriate for Serbian propaganda to appear within the article and as one of the external links. I see it has been removed for now, but it is very insulting to have it continually appear unless a link from the Macedonian perspective is granted on the Greek and Serbian pages.<br />
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On another note ... the Columbus church link was incorrect. Since the present church was destroyed in an arson, the only functioning buildings are the current social hall and their new cathedral, which will be consecrated on October 22nd. The new building is being referred to as a Cathedral. Although there is no bishop, it is a rather nice building and probably worthy of that term.{{unsigned|Dirtyharry667}}<br />
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==Independence==<br />
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The Orthodox within the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (Macedonia), have consistently said they were granted autonomy by their mother church Serbia. No one in authority seems to deny that. It is clear that the Serbian Church later resiled from that position, perhaps under intense pressure from a geographically close Patriarchate or other Holy Synod. <br />
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However, most legal systems consider that once a grant of independence is made it cannot be taken back except by conquest or free treaty.<br />
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In the case of Churches, there have been plenty of examples of independent Churches being taken back under the wing of another more powerful Church. There are also examples of independent Churches not being recognised by all other Orthodox Churches for decades, or even longer. Witness Bulgaria and Romania for instance.<br />
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So the process of independence for Orthodox Churches is not so clear.<br />
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The case of the Macedonian Orthodox Church is a fresh one with lots of invective and hatred shown on the three or four sides involved in the conflict. The Serbians have a strong position. The Greeks have a strong position. The Macedonians have a strong position. And the parallel jurisdiction recently set up within Macedonia by the Serbians also has a strong position. <br />
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Plus there are the political powers who are using this cause for their own nationalistic or hegemonistic ends. <br />
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It seems inappropriate for Serbian propaganda to be imbedded into this article by anti-Macedonian activists. Certainly the Serbian position and the Greek position have a right to be heard. But perhaps they should be placed under their own subheading in this general article. <br />
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To that end, the most recent amendments seem inappropriate as they are at the moment.<br />
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[[User:Chrisg|Chrisg]] 18:19, March 20, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: There was never such a "grant". A "grant" in church terminology would be - Tomos, and a Tomos was never issued to the Macedonian Orthodox Church. No stronger denial than this is needed. <br />
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: What does "independence" in the Church mean? Independent from what? From Christ? What we in the Church value is not independence but unity in Christ - and this unity is achieved through communion. Nothing unclear here. <br />
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: The position of MOC is opposition to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:31, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== About independence ==<br />
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Church of Serbia granted autonomy to three Dioceses in Macedonia. Holy Assembly of Bishops of Serbian Church never resiled from this desision. But autonomy is not autocephaly and Church of Serbia never gave autocephaly to Macedonians. Macedonians proclaimed their church autocephalous. This was uncanonical fact. Macedonians were asking autocephaly. They also were asking autocephaly from all churches and were rejected. They are asking recognition even from Turkish Parlaiment!!<br />
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: If the Church of Serbia granted autonomy to Macedonian dioceses, and have not resiled from that position, why did they set up a parallel jurisiction bearing the same name as one of the autonomous dioceses? Is that not defacto resiling from the earlier grant? chrisg 2007Apr12:1543EAST<br />
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:: The Serbian Church never issued a tomos to the MOC, so there was never such a "grant", thus there is no resilation either. However the Serbian Church issued a tomos for autonomy to the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:19, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Confusion on added material ==<br />
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I'm a little confused about [[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]]'s [http://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Macedonian_Orthodox_Church&diff=48898&oldid=45271 edits], especially the sentence "But two of them soon consecrated new bishop who was without nide qalifications." which I changed to "But two of them soon consecrated new bishops who were without the proper qualifications." for legibility... but that change doesn't really clarify the "nide qalifications" of the original. Any ideas? —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 17:18, May 28, 2008 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Zographou_Monastery_(Athos)&diff=84589Zographou Monastery (Athos)2009-06-02T12:19:07Z<p>K.panteleimon: liturgical language is church slavonic, location is mount athos</p>
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<div>{{Athonitemonastery|<br />
name=Holy Monastery of Zographou|<br />
rank=Ninth|<br />
type=[[Cenobitic]] Monastery|<br />
founded=900s by Frs Moses, Aaron and John|<br />
superior=''unknown''|<br />
size=''unknown''|<br />
location=[[Mount Athos]]|<br />
language=[[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine chant]]|<br />
feasts=[[April 23|St. George]]|<br />
}}<br />
The '''Holy Monastery of Zographou''' is located on the southwestern side of the Athos Peninsula in northern Greece. The [[monastery]] is dedicated to St. [[George the Trophy-bearer|George]]. According to tradition, the monastery was founded during the tenth century by three Bulgarian brothers, the [[monk]]s Moses, Aaron, and John from Ohrid. While the monastery initially was inhabited by Bulgarian, Greek, and Serbian monks, since 1845 the monks are only Bulgarians. Zographou is ranked ninth in the hierarchical order of the twenty monasteries located on the [[Mount Athos]] peninsula.<br />
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==History==<br />
The earliest record of the Zographou is from 980. During its early years the monastery was well supported by Bulgarian rulers, especially Ivan Asen II and Ivan Alexander. Zographou also received land endowments from the Byzantine emperors and Serbian and Romanian rulers.<br />
<br />
As were many of the Athonite monasteries at the time Zographou suffered from raids by the pirates in the Mediterranean Sea, especially during the thirteenth century when the peninsula was ruled by Frankish forces after they had conquered Constantinople in 1204. In 1275, Catalan pirates made a major raid for plunder on the monastery, a raid in which 26 monks were killed and the monastery burnt down. Reconstruction of the buildings started later in the century, aided financially by Emperor Adronicus II Palaeologus.<br />
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Further major construction in the monastery began in the sixteenth century, with many of the existing buildings dating from the middle of the eighteenth century. The south and east wings were built in 1750 and 1758 respectively. A small church was built in 1764 and a larger one in 1801. The north and west wings were built in late nineteenth century and with the construction of the Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]] Church and bell tower major construction was completed in 1896.<br />
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At present all monks in the monastery are Bulgarian, and all services are in [[Church Slavonic]].<br />
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==Treasury==<br />
The collection in the monastery library preserves a significant presentation of Bulgarian culture. It contains manuscripts from the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries, including copies of the passionals of Naum of Ohrid and St. Petka. Additionally, the library contains 388 manuscripts in Slavic and 126 in Greek, as well as some 10,000 printed books.<br />
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The monastery also has two miraculous icons of St. George as well as icons of the Virgin of Akathistos and the Virgin Epakouousa. In addition, the monastery has other heirlooms and ecclesiastical vessels.<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[[Wikipedia:Zograf Monastery]] <br />
*[http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/Athos/Monastery/zographou.html Zographou Monastery]<br />
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[[Category:Monasteries]]<br />
[[Category:Athonite Monasteries]]<br />
[[Category:Bulgarian Monasteries]]<br />
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[[fr:Monastère Zographou (Mont Athos)]]<br />
[[ro:Mănăstirea Zografu (Muntele Athos)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Zographou_Monastery_(Athos)&diff=84588Zographou Monastery (Athos)2009-06-02T12:16:44Z<p>K.panteleimon: the services are in church slavonic</p>
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<div>{{Athonitemonastery|<br />
name=Holy Monastery of Zographou|<br />
rank=Ninth|<br />
type=[[Cenobitic]] Monastery|<br />
founded=900s by Frs Moses, Aaron and John|<br />
superior=''unknown''|<br />
size=''unknown''|<br />
location=''unknown''|<br />
language=Bulgarian|<br />
music=[[Byzantine chant]]|<br />
feasts=[[April 23|St. George]]|<br />
}}<br />
The '''Holy Monastery of Zographou''' is located on the southwestern side of the Athos Peninsula in northern Greece. The [[monastery]] is dedicated to St. [[George the Trophy-bearer|George]]. According to tradition, the monastery was founded during the tenth century by three Bulgarian brothers, the [[monk]]s Moses, Aaron, and John from Ohrid. While the monastery initially was inhabited by Bulgarian, Greek, and Serbian monks, since 1845 the monks are only Bulgarians. Zographou is ranked ninth in the hierarchical order of the twenty monasteries located on the [[Mount Athos]] peninsula.<br />
<br />
==History==<br />
The earliest record of the Zographou is from 980. During its early years the monastery was well supported by Bulgarian rulers, especially Ivan Asen II and Ivan Alexander. Zographou also received land endowments from the Byzantine emperors and Serbian and Romanian rulers.<br />
<br />
As were many of the Athonite monasteries at the time Zographou suffered from raids by the pirates in the Mediterranean Sea, especially during the thirteenth century when the peninsula was ruled by Frankish forces after they had conquered Constantinople in 1204. In 1275, Catalan pirates made a major raid for plunder on the monastery, a raid in which 26 monks were killed and the monastery burnt down. Reconstruction of the buildings started later in the century, aided financially by Emperor Adronicus II Palaeologus.<br />
<br />
Further major construction in the monastery began in the sixteenth century, with many of the existing buildings dating from the middle of the eighteenth century. The south and east wings were built in 1750 and 1758 respectively. A small church was built in 1764 and a larger one in 1801. The north and west wings were built in late nineteenth century and with the construction of the Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]] Church and bell tower major construction was completed in 1896.<br />
<br />
At present all monks in the monastery are Bulgarian, and all services are in [[Church Slavonic]].<br />
<br />
==Treasury==<br />
The collection in the monastery library preserves a significant presentation of Bulgarian culture. It contains manuscripts from the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries, including copies of the passionals of Naum of Ohrid and St. Petka. Additionally, the library contains 388 manuscripts in Slavic and 126 in Greek, as well as some 10,000 printed books.<br />
<br />
The monastery also has two miraculous icons of St. George as well as icons of the Virgin of Akathistos and the Virgin Epakouousa. In addition, the monastery has other heirlooms and ecclesiastical vessels.<br />
<br />
==External links==<br />
*[[Wikipedia:Zograf Monastery]] <br />
*[http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/Athos/Monastery/zographou.html Zographou Monastery]<br />
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[[Category:Monasteries]]<br />
[[Category:Athonite Monasteries]]<br />
[[Category:Bulgarian Monasteries]]<br />
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[[fr:Monastère Zographou (Mont Athos)]]<br />
[[ro:Mănăstirea Zografu (Muntele Athos)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84587Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-02T11:44:39Z<p>K.panteleimon: images</p>
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<div>{{church|<br />
name=Autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid[[Image:Orhodox Ohrid Archbishopric Logo en.gif|200px|center|Archbishopric of Ohrid]]|<br />
founder=/|<br />
independence=2005|<br />
recognition= 2005|<br />
primate=[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje|<br />
hq=Skopje, R. Macedonia|<br />
territory=R. Macedonia|<br />
possessions=&mdash;|<br />
language=Macedonian, [[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]], Serbian chant|<br />
calendar=[[Julian Calendar]]|<br />
population=N/A|<br />
website=[http://poa-info.org/eng Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric]<br />
}}<br />
<br />
The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement. <br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
<br />
The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with all other Orthodox churches.<br />
<br />
The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]].<br />
<br />
==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
[[Image:Synod of Archbishopric of Ohrid.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Holy Synod of Bishops of the autonomous Ohrid Archbishopric with the Patriarch Paul of Serbia, 2004]]<br />
The Holy Synod of bishops was constituted on December 23, 2003 in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom". The current members of the Synod are:<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
<br />
==Persecution==<br />
<br />
===Short history===<br />
<br />
Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
<br />
In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
<br />
[[Image:Destroyed temple Monastery Chrysostomos.jpg|left|thumb|400px|The destruction church in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom"]]<br />
<br />
<br />
A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
<br />
The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004. <br />
<br />
[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina, <br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
<br />
He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
<br />
The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
<br />
The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
===Current situation===<br />
<br />
The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
<br />
'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
<br />
The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
<br />
===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
[[Image:Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Liturgy, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, Archbishop of Ohrid Jovan]]<br />
====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
<br />
====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
<br />
====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
<br />
====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
<br />
====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
<br />
====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
<br />
===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
<br />
====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
<br />
====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
<br />
====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
<br />
The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
<br />
====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
<br />
==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html The Orthodox Word]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
<br />
[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84586Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-02T11:17:29Z<p>K.panteleimon: communion with all other churches</p>
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<div>{{church|<br />
name=Autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid[[Image:Orhodox Ohrid Archbishopric Logo en.gif|200px|center|Archbishopric of Ohrid]]|<br />
founder=/|<br />
independence=2005|<br />
recognition= 2005|<br />
primate=[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje|<br />
hq=Skopje, R. Macedonia|<br />
territory=R. Macedonia|<br />
possessions=&mdash;|<br />
language=Macedonian, [[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]], Serbian chant|<br />
calendar=[[Julian Calendar]]|<br />
population=N/A|<br />
website=[http://poa-info.org/eng Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric]<br />
}}<br />
<br />
The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement. <br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
<br />
The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with all other Orthodox churches.<br />
<br />
The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]].<br />
<br />
==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
[[Image:Synod of Archbishopric of Ohrid.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Holy Synod of Bishops of the autonomous Ohrid Archbishopric with the Patriarch Paul of Serbia, 2004]]<br />
The Holy Synod of bishops was constituted on December 23, 2003 in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom". The current members of the Synod are:<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
<br />
==Persecution==<br />
<br />
===Short history===<br />
<br />
Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
<br />
In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
<br />
A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
<br />
The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004.<br />
<br />
[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina, <br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
<br />
He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
<br />
The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
<br />
The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
===Current situation===<br />
<br />
The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
<br />
'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
<br />
The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
<br />
===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
<br />
====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
<br />
====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
<br />
====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
<br />
====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
<br />
====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
<br />
====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
<br />
===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
<br />
====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
<br />
====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
<br />
====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
<br />
The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
<br />
====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
<br />
==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html The Orthodox Word]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
<br />
[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84585Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-02T11:15:56Z<p>K.panteleimon: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{church|<br />
name=Autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid[[Image:Orhodox Ohrid Archbishopric Logo en.gif|200px|center|Archbishopric of Ohrid]]|<br />
founder=/|<br />
independence=2005|<br />
recognition= 2005|<br />
primate=[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje|<br />
hq=Skopje, R. Macedonia|<br />
territory=R. Macedonia|<br />
possessions=&mdash;|<br />
language=Macedonian, [[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]], Serbian chant|<br />
calendar=[[Julian Calendar]]|<br />
population=N/A|<br />
website=[http://poa-info.org/eng Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric]<br />
}}<br />
<br />
The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement. <br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
<br />
The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with other Orthodox churches.<br />
<br />
The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]].<br />
<br />
==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
[[Image:Synod of Archbishopric of Ohrid.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Holy Synod of Bishops of the autonomous Ohrid Archbishopric with the Patriarch Paul of Serbia, 2004]]<br />
The Holy Synod of bishops was constituted on December 23, 2003 in the monastery "Saint John Chrysostom". The current members of the Synod are:<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
<br />
==Persecution==<br />
<br />
===Short history===<br />
<br />
Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
<br />
In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
<br />
A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
<br />
The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004.<br />
<br />
[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina, <br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
<br />
He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
<br />
The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
<br />
The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
===Current situation===<br />
<br />
The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
<br />
'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
<br />
The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
<br />
===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
<br />
====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
<br />
====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
<br />
====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
<br />
====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
<br />
====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
<br />
====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
<br />
===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
<br />
====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
<br />
====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
<br />
====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
<br />
The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
<br />
====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
<br />
==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html The Orthodox Word]<br />
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[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
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[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84584Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-02T11:11:25Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Holy Synod of bishops */ picture with the Patriarch Paul</p>
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<div>{{church|<br />
name=Autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid[[Image:Orhodox Ohrid Archbishopric Logo en.gif|200px|center|Archbishopric of Ohrid]]|<br />
founder=/|<br />
independence=2005|<br />
recognition= 2005|<br />
primate=[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje|<br />
hq=Skopje, R. Macedonia|<br />
territory=R. Macedonia|<br />
possessions=&mdash;|<br />
language=Macedonian, [[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]], Serbian chant|<br />
calendar=[[Julian Calendar]]|<br />
population=N/A|<br />
website=[http://poa-info.org/eng Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric]<br />
}}<br />
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The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement. <br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
<br />
The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with other Orthodox churches.<br />
<br />
The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]].<br />
<br />
==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
[[Image:Synod of Archbishopric of Ohrid.jpg|right|thumb|200px|The Holy Synod of Bishops of the autonomous Ohrid Archbishopric with the Patriarch Paul of Serbia, 2004]]<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
<br />
==Persecution==<br />
<br />
===Short history===<br />
<br />
Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
<br />
In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
<br />
A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
<br />
The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004.<br />
<br />
[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina, <br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
<br />
He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
<br />
The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
<br />
The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
<br />
===Current situation===<br />
<br />
The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
<br />
'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
<br />
The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
<br />
Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
<br />
===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
<br />
====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
<br />
====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
<br />
====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
<br />
====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
<br />
====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
<br />
====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
<br />
===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
<br />
====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
<br />
====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
<br />
====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
<br />
The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
<br />
====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
<br />
====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
<br />
==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html The Orthodox Word]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
<br />
[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Autonomy&diff=84583Talk:Autonomy2009-06-02T10:05:00Z<p>K.panteleimon: </p>
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<div>Father Andrew, you removed the Archbishopric of Ohrid from the list of autonomous churches, with a short note that it is "recognized only by Serbia". <br />
<br />
Your argument is in contradiction with the definition of autonomy in this page which states that: "is the status of a church within the Orthodox Church whose primatial bishop is confirmed by one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches."<br />
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Assumably, by Serbia you mean the Church of Serbia - which is autocephalous canonical orthodox Church (complies to the requirement "one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches"). It issued a tomos for autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and confirmed the primatial bishop to be Archbishop of Ohrid. <br />
<br />
If there are some other criteria that has to be met - they should be written on this page too.<br />
<br />
It is not understandible why the Church of China, which unfortunately, has no clergy (no bishops, no priests) can be listed, and a canonical church that has (at this moment) four bishops and is in full communion with all canonical orthodox churches, can not be listed on this page?<br />
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[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 10:05, June 2, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Autonomy&diff=84582Talk:Autonomy2009-06-02T10:01:39Z<p>K.panteleimon: New page: Father Andrew, you removed the Archbishopric of Ohrid from the list of autonomous churches, with a short note that it is "recognized only by Serbia". Your argument is in contradiction wi...</p>
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<div>Father Andrew, you removed the Archbishopric of Ohrid from the list of autonomous churches, with a short note that it is "recognized only by Serbia". <br />
<br />
Your argument is in contradiction with the definition of autonomy in this page which states that: "is the status of a church within the Orthodox Church whose primatial bishop is confirmed by one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches."<br />
<br />
Assumably, by Serbia you mean the Church of Serbia - which is autocephalous canonical orthodox Church (complies to the requirement "one of the autocephalous Orthodox Churches"). It issued a tomos for autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and confirmed the primatial bishop to be Archbishop of Ohrid. <br />
<br />
If there are some other criteria that has to be met - they should be written on this page too.<br />
<br />
It is not understandible why the Church of China, which unfortunately, has no clergy (no bishops, no priests) can be listed, and a canonical church that has (at this moment) four bishops and is in full communion with all canonical orthodox churches, can not be listed on this page?</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84581Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-02T09:41:02Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: To answer your two questions:<br />
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: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
<br />
: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
<br />
: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
<br />
:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravenna in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
<br />
:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
<br />
:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia is due to the fact that two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:39, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
<br />
Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
<br />
Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84580Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-02T09:40:46Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
<br />
There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: To answer your two questions:<br />
<br />
: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
<br />
: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
<br />
: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
<br />
:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravenna in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
<br />
:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
<br />
:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia due to the fact that two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:39, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
<br />
Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
<br />
Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84579Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-02T09:39:25Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
<br />
There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: To answer your two questions:<br />
<br />
: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
<br />
: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
<br />
: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
<br />
:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravena in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
<br />
:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
<br />
:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia is because two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
<br />
:: [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:39, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
<br />
Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
<br />
Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84578Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-02T09:38:42Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
<br />
There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: To answer your two questions:<br />
<br />
: 1. The "expanded order" is explained in the article. It is "is recognized by some churches, most notably the Church of Russia and its dependencies and historical daughter churches." That is, it represents an order which some of the Orthodox world agrees on.<br />
<br />
: 2. Autonomy and autocephaly are not simply a matter of who locally gets to do what. Rather, there is (at least theoretically) a seat at the table in inter-Orthodox gatherings for separate representations of autonomous and autocephalous churches. The reason why that universal recognition matters is precisely for the purposes of such inter-Orthodox meetings. (Moscow's representatives, for instance, walked out of a meeting when a delegation showed up from the EP's autonomous Estonian church.)<br />
<br />
: &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:10, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Father Andrew, thanks for your answers. From what you say one may conclude that the "seat at the table in an inter-Orthodox gathering" is the measure of autonomy (and autocephaly). That would not be true. But, let's say that is correct. In that case, can you please name the last gathering where, for example, the Church of China was given an autonomous seat? If this criteria, however, proves to be true, we should write that in the "autonomy" page in this Wiki.<br />
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:: You mention a meeting from which the representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate walked away. If you are referring to the meeting in Ravena in October 2007, allow me to point out that first of all that was not an Inter-Orthodox meeting. What is more important is the fact that the Estonian delegation was part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate delegation, they were not invited as an autonomous church and reserved an autonomous seat. <br />
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:: But, since autonomy (unlike autocephaly) is an internal matter of each Church, the Ecumenical Patriarchate chose to include a representative from its Estonian Church in its delegation.<br />
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:: At last, please have in mind that the problem in Estonia is because two canonical orthodox Partriarchates claim juristiction over that territory, i.e. there are two canonical juristictions there. That is not the case with the autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid which is the only canonical Church on the territory of R. Macedonia.<br />
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[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 09:38, June 2, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
<br />
Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
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Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
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: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
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: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84573Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-01T20:33:27Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. There is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
<br />
Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
<br />
Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
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: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84572Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-01T20:32:17Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. Again, there is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
[[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:32, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
<br />
Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
<br />
Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
<br />
: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Macedonian_Orthodox_Church&diff=84571Talk:Macedonian Orthodox Church2009-06-01T20:31:46Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Independence */</p>
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<div>This article will need some serious work in order for it to conform to NPOV standards, especially as this particular group is the subject of much controversy. I'm also concerned that this article, as it now stands, may violate copyright from [http://www.mpc.org.mk/English/MPC/history-mpc.asp this site].{{User:ASDamick/sig}} 19:20, December 20, 2005 (CST)<br />
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Metropolitan Nahum of Strumica owns www.mpc.org.mk either in his own right or as diocesan bishop. He also owns in some right Premin Portal. The editor of Premin Portal says he is please to have this article posted on orthodoxwiki. <br />
<br />
It cetainly does need some further elucidation.<br />
<br />
However, the claims put forward there by Met Nahum have never been denied by the Serbian authorities.<br />
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chrisg 2006-05-01 : 0003 EAST<br />
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I'm sure that Archbishop Stefan as well as most of the bishops are elated that the material in question was used on Wikipedia. A larger issue in my mind is whether it is appropriate for Serbian propaganda to appear within the article and as one of the external links. I see it has been removed for now, but it is very insulting to have it continually appear unless a link from the Macedonian perspective is granted on the Greek and Serbian pages.<br />
<br />
On another note ... the Columbus church link was incorrect. Since the present church was destroyed in an arson, the only functioning buildings are the current social hall and their new cathedral, which will be consecrated on October 22nd. The new building is being referred to as a Cathedral. Although there is no bishop, it is a rather nice building and probably worthy of that term.{{unsigned|Dirtyharry667}}<br />
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==Independence==<br />
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The Orthodox within the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (Macedonia), have consistently said they were granted autonomy by their mother church Serbia. No one in authority seems to deny that. It is clear that the Serbian Church later resiled from that position, perhaps under intense pressure from a geographically close Patriarchate or other Holy Synod. <br />
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: There was never such a "grant". A "grant" in church terminology would be - Tomos, and a Tomos was never issued to the Macedonian Orthodox Church. No stronger denial than this is needed. (Therefore, the statements below are disputable, to say at least.) [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:31, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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However, most legal systems consider that once a grant of independence is made it cannot be taken back except by conquest or free treaty.<br />
<br />
In the case of Churches, there have been plenty of examples of independent Churches being taken back under the wing of another more powerful Church. There are also examples of independent Churches not being recognised by all other Orthodox Churches for decades, or even longer. Witness Bulgaria and Romania for instance.<br />
<br />
So the process of independence for Orthodox Churches is not so clear.<br />
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: What does "independence" in the Church mean? Independent from what? From Christ? What we in the Church value is not independence but unity in Christ - and this unity is achieved through communion. Nothing unclear here. [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:31, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The case of the Macedonian Orthodox Church is a fresh one with lots of invective and hatred shown on the three or four sides involved in the conflict. The Serbians have a strong position. The Greeks have a strong position. The Macedonians have a strong position. And the parallel jurisdiction recently set up within Macedonia by the Serbians also has a strong position. <br />
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: The position of MOC is opposition to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:31, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Plus there are the political powers who are using this cause for their own nationalistic or hegemonistic ends. <br />
<br />
It seems inappropriate for Serbian propaganda to be imbedded into this article by anti-Macedonian activists. Certainly the Serbian position and the Greek position have a right to be heard. But perhaps they should be placed under their own subheading in this general article. <br />
<br />
To that end, the most recent amendments seem inappropriate as they are at the moment.<br />
<br />
[[User:Chrisg|Chrisg]] 18:19, March 20, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== About independence ==<br />
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Church of Serbia granted autonomy to three Dioceses in Macedonia. Holy Assembly of Bishops of Serbian Church never resiled from this desision. But autonomy is not autocephaly and Church of Serbia never gave autocephaly to Macedonians. Macedonians proclaimed their church autocephalous. This was uncanonical fact. Macedonians were asking autocephaly. They also were asking autocephaly from all churches and were rejected. They are asking recognition even from Turkish Parlaiment!!<br />
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If the Church of Serbia granted autonomy to Macedonian dioceses, and have not resiled from that position, why did they set up a parallel jurisiction bearing the same name as one of the autonomous dioceses? Is that not defacto resiling from the earlier grant? chrisg 2007Apr12:1543EAST<br />
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: The Serbian Church never issued a tomos to the MOC, so there was never such a "grant", thus there is no resilation either. However the Serbian Church issued a tomos for autonomy to the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:19, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Confusion on added material ==<br />
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I'm a little confused about [[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]]'s [http://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Macedonian_Orthodox_Church&diff=48898&oldid=45271 edits], especially the sentence "But two of them soon consecrated new bishop who was without nide qalifications." which I changed to "But two of them soon consecrated new bishops who were without the proper qualifications." for legibility... but that change doesn't really clarify the "nide qalifications" of the original. Any ideas? —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 17:18, May 28, 2008 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Macedonian_Orthodox_Church&diff=84570Talk:Macedonian Orthodox Church2009-06-01T20:19:47Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* About independence */</p>
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<div>This article will need some serious work in order for it to conform to NPOV standards, especially as this particular group is the subject of much controversy. I'm also concerned that this article, as it now stands, may violate copyright from [http://www.mpc.org.mk/English/MPC/history-mpc.asp this site].{{User:ASDamick/sig}} 19:20, December 20, 2005 (CST)<br />
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Metropolitan Nahum of Strumica owns www.mpc.org.mk either in his own right or as diocesan bishop. He also owns in some right Premin Portal. The editor of Premin Portal says he is please to have this article posted on orthodoxwiki. <br />
<br />
It cetainly does need some further elucidation.<br />
<br />
However, the claims put forward there by Met Nahum have never been denied by the Serbian authorities.<br />
<br />
chrisg 2006-05-01 : 0003 EAST<br />
<br />
I'm sure that Archbishop Stefan as well as most of the bishops are elated that the material in question was used on Wikipedia. A larger issue in my mind is whether it is appropriate for Serbian propaganda to appear within the article and as one of the external links. I see it has been removed for now, but it is very insulting to have it continually appear unless a link from the Macedonian perspective is granted on the Greek and Serbian pages.<br />
<br />
On another note ... the Columbus church link was incorrect. Since the present church was destroyed in an arson, the only functioning buildings are the current social hall and their new cathedral, which will be consecrated on October 22nd. The new building is being referred to as a Cathedral. Although there is no bishop, it is a rather nice building and probably worthy of that term.{{unsigned|Dirtyharry667}}<br />
<br />
==Independence==<br />
<br />
The Orthodox within the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (Macedonia), have consistently said they were granted autonomy by their mother church Serbia. No one in authority seems to deny that. It is clear that the Serbian Church later resiled from that position, perhaps under intense pressure from a geographically close Patriarchate or other Holy Synod. <br />
<br />
However, most legal systems consider that once a grant of independence is made it cannot be taken back except by conquest or free treaty.<br />
<br />
In the case of Churches, there have been plenty of examples of independent Churches being taken back under the wing of another more powerful Church. There are also examples of independent Churches not being recognised by all other Orthodox Churches for decades, or even longer. Witness Bulgaria and Romania for instance.<br />
<br />
So the process of independence for Orthodox Churches is not so clear.<br />
<br />
The case of the Macedonian Orthodox Church is a fresh one with lots of invective and hatred shown on the three or four sides involved in the conflict. The Serbians have a strong position. The Greeks have a strong position. The Macedonians have a strong position. And the parallel jurisdiction recently set up within Macedonia by the Serbians also has a strong position. <br />
<br />
Plus there are the political powers who are using this cause for their own nationalistic or hegemonistic ends. <br />
<br />
It seems inappropriate for Serbian propaganda to be imbedded into this article by anti-Macedonian activists. Certainly the Serbian position and the Greek position have a right to be heard. But perhaps they should be placed under their own subheading in this general article. <br />
<br />
To that end, the most recent amendments seem inappropriate as they are at the moment.<br />
<br />
[[User:Chrisg|Chrisg]] 18:19, March 20, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== About independence ==<br />
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Church of Serbia granted autonomy to three Dioceses in Macedonia. Holy Assembly of Bishops of Serbian Church never resiled from this desision. But autonomy is not autocephaly and Church of Serbia never gave autocephaly to Macedonians. Macedonians proclaimed their church autocephalous. This was uncanonical fact. Macedonians were asking autocephaly. They also were asking autocephaly from all churches and were rejected. They are asking recognition even from Turkish Parlaiment!!<br />
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If the Church of Serbia granted autonomy to Macedonian dioceses, and have not resiled from that position, why did they set up a parallel jurisiction bearing the same name as one of the autonomous dioceses? Is that not defacto resiling from the earlier grant? chrisg 2007Apr12:1543EAST<br />
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: The Serbian Church never issued a tomos to the MOC, so there was never such a "grant", thus there is no resilation either. However the Serbian Church issued a tomos for autonomy to the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. [[User:K.panteleimon|K.panteleimon]] 20:19, June 1, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Confusion on added material ==<br />
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I'm a little confused about [[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]]'s [http://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Macedonian_Orthodox_Church&diff=48898&oldid=45271 edits], especially the sentence "But two of them soon consecrated new bishop who was without nide qalifications." which I changed to "But two of them soon consecrated new bishops who were without the proper qualifications." for legibility... but that change doesn't really clarify the "nide qalifications" of the original. Any ideas? —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 17:18, May 28, 2008 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jovan_VI_(Vrani%C5%A1kovski)_of_Ohrid&diff=84569Jovan VI (Vraniškovski) of Ohrid2009-06-01T20:10:09Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Reactions of the Orthodox Churches */ athos</p>
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<div>[[Image:Passover2008_Jerusalem_detail.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan with the Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilus serve Divine Liturgy at Christ's grave, Pascha 2008]]<br />
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His Grace '''Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)''' is the [[Archbishop]] of [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid|Ohrid]] and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje.<br />
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==Life==<br />
He was born on [[February 28]], 1966, in Bitola, Yugoslavia, and [[baptism|baptized]] as an Orthodox Christian named Zoran. He completed his primary school and mathematical high school in his native town, receiving many awards for achievements in the fields of science and sports. In 1985, after having served his military obligation in Sarajevo, he began studies at the Faculty of Civil Engineering in Skopje, graduating in 1990.<br />
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Later in 1990, he enrolled the Faculty of Theology in Belgrade while working as a civil engineer with the Metropolitanate of Bitola. While employed by the [[metropolis]], he established its library in collaboration with the local University Library of Bitola, while serving also as the new library's first librarian. During his two and half years in this position the young Zoran gave a series of lectures.<br />
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In 1993, he left Bitola for Belgrade to continue his studies in theology, graduating in June 1995. Immediately, he began his master's studies at the Department of Systematic Theology (Dogmatics). At the end of 1995, he moved to Thessalonica in Greece to learn Greek and enroll for postgraduate studies. In Thessalonica, he worked on his doctorate and a dissertation entitled: ''The Unity of the Church and the Contemporary Ecclesiological Problem''.<br />
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On [[February 7]], 1998, he took [[monasticism|monastic]] vows, was tonsured a [[monk]] with the name Jovan (John), and was [[ordination|ordained]] a [[deacon]]. The following day, [[February 8]], he was ordained to the [[priest]]hood, becoming a [[hieromonk]]. On [[July 19]], 1998, Fr. John was [[consecration of a bishop|consecrated]] a [[bishop]] with the title of Bishop of Dremvica and assigned as [[auxiliary bishop|vicar]] to the Bishop of Prespa and Pelagonia. In this position, and in addition to taking part in theological consultations, Bp. John led the effort for reconstruction of the Cathedral Church of St. Great Martyr Demetrius in Bitola. In March 2000, he was assigned as administrator of the Metropolitanate of Bregalnica. In November 2000, Bp. John was elected Bishop of Veles and Vardar Valley and enthroned on [[December 4]], 2000. <br />
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==Overcoming the Schism==<br />
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Leading the Holy Metropolitanate of Veles and Vardar Valley, on [[June 22]], 2002, Metr. John responded to the summons for liturgical and canonical unity with the Patriarchate of Peć by the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Serbia|Serbia]], [[Pavel (Stojcevic) of Serbia|Pavle]]. Together with all his clergy and faithful of his Metropolitanate, Metr. John was the only bishop of the schismatic Macedonian Orthodox Church who responded positively.<br />
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A few days later, he was expelled from the seat of the Metropolitanate together with the monastic community living with him. This was done illegally and without a court warrant by the Police of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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On [[September 23]], 2002, Metr. John was appointed [[Exarch]] of all the territories of the Ohrid [[Archdiocese]] by the Assembly of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On [[December 25]], 2003, he was elected Chairman of the [[Holy Synod]] of Bishops of the Orthodox Ohrid Archdiocese, after it had been constituted. <br />
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On [[May 24]], 2005, on the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], he was confirmed by his Holiness, the Archbishop of Peć, Metropolitan of Belgrade and Karlovci, and Patriarch of Serbia, Pavle, to be Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje in accordance with the Niš Agreement. On the same day, there was an announcement of the Patriarchal and the Assembly's Tomos for Autonomy of the Ohrid Archdiocese, with Metr. John as the Chairman of the Holy Synod of Bishops.<br />
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==Testimonies for the faith==<br />
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[[Image:Archbishop Jovan arrested.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan under arrest]]<br />
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Since joining the canonical orthodox church, the persecution began, initially with the illegal expelling from his residence. He is persecued by the state, FYRO Macedonia, was imprisoned several times, and Amnesty International declared him ''a prisoner of conscience''[http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html].<br />
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===Detentions===<br />
He was detained under custody many times by the authorities of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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He was sentenced to a suspended punishment one year of imprisonment for the criminal offense of "performing unauthorized activities" because he had entered a [[church]] to baptize a female infant in 2004. <br />
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===First Imprisonment===<br />
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The Court of Appeal in Bitola sentenced him to eighteen months of imprisonment in 2005 as judgment for a criminal offense of "incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, discord and intolerance." The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina<br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[July 26]], 2005 and served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of these three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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===Second Imprisonment===<br />
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He was sentenced for the second time, on charges raised by the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]] for "Embezzlement" of a donation of 57.000 Euro - money he never touched nor used and which was timely handed over to the court of first instance in Veles, in the first moment when this was requested by the donor, who later testified before the court that Archbishop Jovan is innocent. Based on the donor's testimony the Archbishop was twice liberated, and the third time, after a severe political pressure, he was sentenced to imprisonment. <br />
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As a second defendant he was sentenced to a higher prison term (2 years) than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[August 8]], 2006 and served 256 days before being released. <br />
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===Third trial===<br />
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A third trial for "Embezzlement" is in process, also upon charges of the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]. He was already found not guilty on the charges twice, but the Court of Appeal has rejected these verdicts.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox Churches===<br />
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The orthodox churches reacted upon the imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan and appealed for his release.<br />
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* [[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
* The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
* Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
* The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support to the Archbishop Jovan, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
* [[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
* [[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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==Books==<br />
*''A Short History of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric'' (Ohrid, 2007)<br />
*''The Freedom in the Prison'' (Skopje, 2007))<br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje, Kyr Kyr John VI]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html Article in 'The Orthodox Word' periodical]<br />
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[[Category:Bishops]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomy&diff=84568Autonomy2009-06-01T20:06:19Z<p>K.panteleimon: Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid</p>
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<div>'''Autonomy''' (literally, "self-ruled") is the status of a church within the [[Orthodox Church]] whose [[primate|primatial]] [[bishop]] is confirmed by one of the [[autocephaly|autocephalous]] Orthodox Churches. In all other respects, an autonomous church is entirely self-governing. There are currently seven autonomous churches within the [[Orthodox Church]]: the [[Church of Sinai]], the [[Church of Finland]], the [[Church of Japan]], the [[Church of Ukraine]], the [[Church of Estonia]], [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid]], and the [[Church of China]].<br />
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==See also==<br />
*[[Autocephaly]]<br />
*[[List of autocephalous and autonomous Churches]]<br />
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[[Category:Ecclesiology]]<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
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[[ro:Autonomie]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84567Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-01T20:01:56Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Sources */</p>
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<div>{{church|<br />
name=Autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid[[Image:Orhodox Ohrid Archbishopric Logo en.gif|200px|center|Archbishopric of Ohrid]]|<br />
founder=/|<br />
independence=2005|<br />
recognition= 2005|<br />
primate=[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje|<br />
hq=Skopje, R. Macedonia|<br />
territory=R. Macedonia|<br />
possessions=&mdash;|<br />
language=Macedonian, [[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]], Serbian chant|<br />
calendar=[[Julian Calendar]]|<br />
population=N/A|<br />
website=[http://poa-info.org/eng Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric]<br />
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The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement. <br />
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On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
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The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with other Orthodox churches.<br />
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The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]].<br />
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==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
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==Persecution==<br />
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===Short history===<br />
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Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
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In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
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A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
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The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
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The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004.<br />
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[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina, <br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
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The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
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The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
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Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
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===Current situation===<br />
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The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
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'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
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The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
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Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
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====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
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====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
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====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
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====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
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====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
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====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
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====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
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====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
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====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
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====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
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The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
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====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
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====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html The Orthodox Word]<br />
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[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
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[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Jovan_VI_(Vrani%C5%A1kovski)_of_Ohrid&diff=84566Jovan VI (Vraniškovski) of Ohrid2009-06-01T20:00:26Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Sources */ the orthodox word</p>
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<div>[[Image:Passover2008_Jerusalem_detail.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan with the Patriarch of Jerusalem Theophilus serve Divine Liturgy at Christ's grave, Pascha 2008]]<br />
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His Grace '''Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)''' is the [[Archbishop]] of [[Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid|Ohrid]] and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje.<br />
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==Life==<br />
He was born on [[February 28]], 1966, in Bitola, Yugoslavia, and [[baptism|baptized]] as an Orthodox Christian named Zoran. He completed his primary school and mathematical high school in his native town, receiving many awards for achievements in the fields of science and sports. In 1985, after having served his military obligation in Sarajevo, he began studies at the Faculty of Civil Engineering in Skopje, graduating in 1990.<br />
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Later in 1990, he enrolled the Faculty of Theology in Belgrade while working as a civil engineer with the Metropolitanate of Bitola. While employed by the [[metropolis]], he established its library in collaboration with the local University Library of Bitola, while serving also as the new library's first librarian. During his two and half years in this position the young Zoran gave a series of lectures.<br />
<br />
In 1993, he left Bitola for Belgrade to continue his studies in theology, graduating in June 1995. Immediately, he began his master's studies at the Department of Systematic Theology (Dogmatics). At the end of 1995, he moved to Thessalonica in Greece to learn Greek and enroll for postgraduate studies. In Thessalonica, he worked on his doctorate and a dissertation entitled: ''The Unity of the Church and the Contemporary Ecclesiological Problem''.<br />
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On [[February 7]], 1998, he took [[monasticism|monastic]] vows, was tonsured a [[monk]] with the name Jovan (John), and was [[ordination|ordained]] a [[deacon]]. The following day, [[February 8]], he was ordained to the [[priest]]hood, becoming a [[hieromonk]]. On [[July 19]], 1998, Fr. John was [[consecration of a bishop|consecrated]] a [[bishop]] with the title of Bishop of Dremvica and assigned as [[auxiliary bishop|vicar]] to the Bishop of Prespa and Pelagonia. In this position, and in addition to taking part in theological consultations, Bp. John led the effort for reconstruction of the Cathedral Church of St. Great Martyr Demetrius in Bitola. In March 2000, he was assigned as administrator of the Metropolitanate of Bregalnica. In November 2000, Bp. John was elected Bishop of Veles and Vardar Valley and enthroned on [[December 4]], 2000. <br />
<br />
==Overcoming the Schism==<br />
<br />
Leading the Holy Metropolitanate of Veles and Vardar Valley, on [[June 22]], 2002, Metr. John responded to the summons for liturgical and canonical unity with the Patriarchate of Peć by the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Serbia|Serbia]], [[Pavel (Stojcevic) of Serbia|Pavle]]. Together with all his clergy and faithful of his Metropolitanate, Metr. John was the only bishop of the schismatic Macedonian Orthodox Church who responded positively.<br />
<br />
A few days later, he was expelled from the seat of the Metropolitanate together with the monastic community living with him. This was done illegally and without a court warrant by the Police of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
<br />
On [[September 23]], 2002, Metr. John was appointed [[Exarch]] of all the territories of the Ohrid [[Archdiocese]] by the Assembly of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On [[December 25]], 2003, he was elected Chairman of the [[Holy Synod]] of Bishops of the Orthodox Ohrid Archdiocese, after it had been constituted. <br />
<br />
On [[May 24]], 2005, on the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], he was confirmed by his Holiness, the Archbishop of Peć, Metropolitan of Belgrade and Karlovci, and Patriarch of Serbia, Pavle, to be Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje in accordance with the Niš Agreement. On the same day, there was an announcement of the Patriarchal and the Assembly's Tomos for Autonomy of the Ohrid Archdiocese, with Metr. John as the Chairman of the Holy Synod of Bishops.<br />
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==Testimonies for the faith==<br />
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[[Image:Archbishop Jovan arrested.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Archbishop Jovan under arrest]]<br />
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Since joining the canonical orthodox church, the persecution began, initially with the illegal expelling from his residence. He is persecued by the state, FYRO Macedonia, was imprisoned several times, and Amnesty International declared him ''a prisoner of conscience''[http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html].<br />
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===Detentions===<br />
He was detained under custody many times by the authorities of the Republic of Macedonia. <br />
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He was sentenced to a suspended punishment one year of imprisonment for the criminal offense of "performing unauthorized activities" because he had entered a [[church]] to baptize a female infant in 2004. <br />
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===First Imprisonment===<br />
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The Court of Appeal in Bitola sentenced him to eighteen months of imprisonment in 2005 as judgment for a criminal offense of "incitement of ethnic and religious hatred, discord and intolerance." The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina<br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[July 26]], 2005 and served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of these three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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===Second Imprisonment===<br />
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He was sentenced for the second time, on charges raised by the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]] for "Embezzlement" of a donation of 57.000 Euro - money he never touched nor used and which was timely handed over to the court of first instance in Veles, in the first moment when this was requested by the donor, who later testified before the court that Archbishop Jovan is innocent. Based on the donor's testimony the Archbishop was twice liberated, and the third time, after a severe political pressure, he was sentenced to imprisonment. <br />
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As a second defendant he was sentenced to a higher prison term (2 years) than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. <br />
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He was imprisoned on [[August 8]], 2006 and served 256 days before being released. <br />
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===Third trial===<br />
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A third trial for "Embezzlement" is in process, also upon charges of the [[schism]]atic [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]. He was already found not guilty on the charges twice, but the Court of Appeal has rejected these verdicts.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox Churches===<br />
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The orthodox churches reacted upon the imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan and appealed for his release.<br />
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* [[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
* The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
* Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
* [[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
* [[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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==Books==<br />
*''A Short History of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric'' (Ohrid, 2007)<br />
*''The Freedom in the Prison'' (Skopje, 2007))<br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje, Kyr Kyr John VI]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/history/schism/67.html Article in 'The Orthodox Word' periodical]<br />
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[[Category:Bishops]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Autonomous_Archdiocese_of_Ohrid&diff=84565Autonomous Archdiocese of Ohrid2009-06-01T19:51:16Z<p>K.panteleimon: Church, history and persecution, sources</p>
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<div>{{church|<br />
name=Autonomous Archbishopric of Ohrid[[Image:Orhodox Ohrid Archbishopric Logo en.gif|200px|center|Archbishopric of Ohrid]]|<br />
founder=/|<br />
independence=2005|<br />
recognition= 2005|<br />
primate=[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje|<br />
hq=Skopje, R. Macedonia|<br />
territory=R. Macedonia|<br />
possessions=&mdash;|<br />
language=Macedonian, [[Church Slavonic]]|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]], Serbian chant|<br />
calendar=[[Julian Calendar]]|<br />
population=N/A|<br />
website=[http://poa-info.org/eng Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric]<br />
}}<br />
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The Orthodox '''[[Archdiocese]] of Ohrid''' (Macedonian: Православна Охридска Архиепископија) is an [[autonomy|autonomous]] Orthodox church whose [[primate]] is confirmed by the [[Church of Serbia]]. It was established in 2002 when [[Metropolitan]] Jovan of Veles and Povardarje, part of the canonically unrecognized [[Macedonian Orthodox Church]], accepted the Niš agreement. <br />
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On [[May 24]], 2005, during the Feast of Ss. [[Cyril and Methodius]], the [[Holy Synod|Holy Assembly]] of Bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church granted autonomy to the archdiocese. <br />
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The Archdiocese of Ohrid is in full [[communion]] with other Orthodox churches.<br />
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The current Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje is [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Jovan (Vraniškovski)]].<br />
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==Holy Synod of bishops==<br />
* [[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid |Jovan VI (Vraniškovski)]], Archbishop of Ohrid and [[Metropolitan]] of Skopje<br />
* Joakim, Bishop of Polog and Kumanovo and ''[[locum tenens]]'' of Debar and Kicevo<br />
* Marko, Bishop of Bregalnica and ''locum tenens'' of Bitola<br />
* David, Vicar Bishop of Stobi and ''locum tenens'' of Strumica<br />
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==Persecution==<br />
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===Short history===<br />
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Upon entering in the canonical and ecclesiastical unity with the [[Church of Serbia|Serbian Orthodox Church]], and through that with the whole community of [[Orthodox Church|Orthodox Churches]], the Archbishop kyr kyr Jovan was illegally and brutally expelled by the police, without a court order, from his residence and cathedra in Veles on [[July 7]], 2002. <br />
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In the same manner, illegally and without a court order, the monks of four monasteries, were expelled from their monasteries, i.e. homes, in January 2004, immediately after joining the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric. <br />
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A fifth monastery, in the village Nizepole, was broken into by armed and masked men, who not finding the Archbishop Jovan they were after, harassed and threatened the nuns with machine-guns, cut their hair and set the monastery on fire, in February 2004. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
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The declaratively secular state legalized its identification with a specific religious community – the [[Schism]]atic Macedonian Orthodox Church (MOC), through the Parliament’s "Declaration for support of the autocephaly of the MOC" reached on [[January 23]], 2004; <br />
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The Church in the "Saint John Chrysostom" monastery was demolished by the state authorities in October 2004.<br />
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[[Jovan VI (Vraniskovski) of Ohrid|Archbishop Jovan]] was sentenced to 18 months of prison in June 2005 for "Instigation of ethnic, racial and religious hatred, discord and intolerance". The verdict stated the conviction relied on these three points: <br />
# he agreed to be appointed as an Exarch of the Ohrid Archbishopric in Macedoina, <br />
# he participated in the ordination of the bishops Joachim and Marko and <br />
# he officiated at a religious service in an apartment owned by his parents. <br />
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He served 220 days in prison before the Constitutional court declared the last two of the three points to be unconstitutional and his sentence was shortened to 8 months.<br />
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Archbishop Jovan was sentenced for the second time, on charges for "Embezzlement", and as a second defendant was sentenced to a higher prison term of 2 years than the first defendand (who was sentenced 1 year and 3 months) in 2006. He served 256 days before being released. <br />
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The chapel "St. Nectarios of Aegina", after being broken into and vandalized on several occasions, was at the end completely demolished in July 2005, before the eyes of the police. <br />
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The priest who served at that chapel, Fr. Borjan Vitanov, was beaten up twice. The police refused to investigate the case.<br />
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Bishop Marko was beaten up while serving at a public graveyard. The police again refused to investigate the case.<br />
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===Current situation===<br />
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The clergy of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric is constantly being harassed at the border-crossings by the police. <br />
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'''The clergy of other orthodox churches is not allowed to enter the country.'''<br />
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The state, against the law, denies the official registration of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric.<br />
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Archbishop Jovan has been put on trial for the third time, for a third case of "embezzelment". As his attorney was not able to attend a court hearing, having a greater priority court case at the same time, the Archbishop is sentenced detention.<br />
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===Reactions of the Orthodox churches===<br />
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====Ecumenical Patriarchate====<br />
[[Church of Constantinople|Ecumenical Patriarch]] [[Bartholomew I (Archontonis) of Constantinople|Bartholomew I]] sent a letter to the Prime Minister of FYROM requesting immediate release of Archbishop Jovan [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=gr][http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en]<br />
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====Russian Patriarchate====<br />
The Patriarch of [[Church of Russia|Russia]] [[Alexei II (Ridiger) of Moscow|Alexei II]] sent a letter to the President of FYROM demanding immediate release of the Archbishop Jovan [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html]<br />
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====Church of Greece====<br />
Holy [[Synod]] Of Hierarchs Of The [[Church of Greece]] expressed a severe protest for an emergent release of Archbishop Jovan from prison, and for respect of religious freedom in FYROM [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892]<br />
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====Holy Mount Athos====<br />
The Holy Community of the [[Athos|Holy Mount Athos]] sent a letter of support, signed by all Representatives and Abbots who are in the common Assembly of the twenty Holy Monasteries of the Holy Mount Athos [http://www.poa-info.org/archbishop/correspondence/atos19022004.html]<br />
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====Standing Conference of the Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas====<br />
[[SCOBA]] Condemned the Imprisonment of Archbishop Jovan by FYROM and asked for his release [http://www.scoba.us/articles/2005-08-11-condemns-jovan-release.html]<br />
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====Orthodox Church in America====<br />
[[Herman (Swaiko) of Washington and New York|Metropolitan Herman]] of [[OCA]] called for release of Archbishop Jovan of Ohrid [http://www.oca.org/News.asp?ID=1118&SID=19]<br />
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===Reactions of secular institutions and organizations===<br />
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====US State Department====<br />
The [http://www.state.gov US Department of State] constantly includes in its "Religious Freedom Report" and "Human Rights Report" information regarding the '''restrictions of the religious freedoms of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''', existence of '''religious prisoners''', '''violation of freedom of movement''', '''police terror''' and '''demolition of a monastery''', '''prevention of OSCE from obtaining a copy of the decision upon which the demolition was carried out''', '''police interrogations of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric''' etc. [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2008/108458.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/90187.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71394.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51567.htm], [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35470.htm]<br />
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====US Mission to the OSCE====<br />
The [http://osce.usmission.gov US Mission to the OSCE] warned of '''Violation of freedom of religion''' and '''encouraged the authorities to apply the law fairly''', advising '''the government should avoid involving in religious disputes''', reminding that ''Article Nine of the European Convention on Human Rights and Article 19 of the Macedonian Constitution as well as Macedonia’s OSCE commitments, and international norms, all guarantee his right to freedom of religion.''[http://osce.usmission.gov/media/pdfs/2004-statements/fyrom_2-5-04.pdf]<br />
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====Amnesty International====<br />
[http://amnesty.org Amnesty International] declared the Archbishop Jovan ''a prisoner of conscience''. [http://amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR05/001/2006/en/28018728-d44a-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur050012006en.html]<br />
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====Helsinki Committee for Human Rights==== <br />
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The [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights] constantly reports about the violation of the religious freedoms and human rights of the members of the Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric: ''The violation of several basic rights was the result of activities of a number of state institutions (especially the Ministry of the Interior) directed against not only the followers (monks of the MOC who were supporting Vraniskovski), but also against citizens who approve of him or had compassionate sentiments or attitude towards them. This can be illustrated by the following: problems upon entry and exit from the state, threats, police detention, lawsuits against citizens who have provided housing for the outcast monks, police ban in the exercise of the right to residence'' [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=1609B5961305E340B3BCB614BFD1D926&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=577B948E52C7B648A9F4398C90B0A71C&arc=1], [http://mhc.org.mk/default-mk.asp?ItemID=D269C890ADF91F4D8B26B40C32163802&arc=1] etc.<br />
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====European Commission==== <br />
The [http://ec.europa.eu European Commission] pointed out that ''cases of violations of religious freedom exist'' and emphasized that ''the new law should provide more liberal procedure for registering religious communities''[http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/fyrom_sec_1387_en.pdf]<br />
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====Forum 18====<br />
[http://forum18.org Forum 18] reports that '''New Religion Law perpetuates discrimination''' [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=1107]<br />
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==Sources==<br />
* [http://www.poa-info.org/eng Official website]<br />
* [http://freearchbishop.com FreeArchbishop.com]<br />
* [http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=gr&id=549&tla=en Ecumenical Patriarchate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/37153.html Patriarchia.ru]<br />
* [http://www.ecclesia.gr/greeknews/default.asp?id=892 Church of Greece]<br />
* [http://amnesty.org Amnesty International]<br />
* [http://www.state.gov US Department of State]<br />
* [http://forum18.org/Archive.php?query=&religion=all&country=50&results=50 Forum 18]<br />
* [http://mhc.org.mk Helsinki Committee for Human Rights]<br />
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[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
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[[fr:Archevêché d'Okhrid (Patriarcat de Serbie)]]</div>K.panteleimonhttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_autocephalous_and_autonomous_churches&diff=84564Talk:List of autocephalous and autonomous churches2009-06-01T18:24:56Z<p>K.panteleimon: /* Archbishopric of Ohrid */</p>
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<div>==Church of Sinai==<br />
it was my understanding that the [[Church of Sinai]] was fairly universally recognised as being an autonomous church. is this the case, and who is it/is it not recognised by? [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] 23:46, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm not sure of the details, but in the Fitzgerald book listed in the Sources, Sinai isn't included in his list. (Fr. Thomas is a priest of the [[GOA]] and a professor at [[Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology (Brookline, Massachusetts)|Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 08:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)<br />
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== Archbishopric of Ohrid ==<br />
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There is also autonomous Archibishopric of Ohrid. Church of Serbia garanted Autonomy to them 2004.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:29, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: ''Archdiocese'' is the usual English term. I've added this to the "expanded" order. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:01, April 19, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Prior to making changes I want to ask: what is the point of the "expanded" order?<br />
Why is it stated that the autonomy of the Archbishopric of Ohrid is recognized only by Serbia?!? First of all, Serbia is a country, a political entity, and it is not up to a political entity to recognize or not recognize a church. Second - the Patriarchate of Pec granted autonomy to the Archbishopric of Ohrid and notified all other churches of this. Again, there is no need that the other churches recognize or not recognize this autonomy, as it is an internal matter of the Patriarchate of Pec. The Archbishopric of Ohrid is in communion with all orthodox churches. What other form of recognition by the other churches is needed?<br />
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== ROCOR's autonomy ==<br />
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Please do not keep adding the [[ROCOR]] to this list. It is not an autonomous church in the sense that these other churches are autonomous, but is indeed regarded by both itself and the MP as being corporately part of the [[Church of Russia]]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 19:21, May 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== The Church of Cyprus ==<br />
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Why was my entry here removed? It makes a legitimate note that the Russians place the order of the hierarchy differently, and it just so happens that the Greeks and the Arabs do the same regarding the position of the Church of Cyprus. As I explained, the ancient Patriarchates, the Church of Greece, and the Church of Cyprus, regard Cyprus as featuring immediately before Moscow. The Archbishop has certain three privileges, namely being able to wear red beneath the rason, carrying a stick with a double-headed snake, and signing his name in red. The Church was founded by Paul, Barnabas, and Lazaros, and it is the location of the tomb of Barnabas with his copy of Matthew that led ultimately to irrefutable independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 13:34, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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: The edit was reverted because it's simply not factually true. There is no Orthodox church that ranks Cyprus higher than Moscow. In fact, all of them rank all the patriarchal-rank churches before Cyprus.<br />
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: Here's an example from a recent event presided over by the Ecumenical Patriarch: http://www.ec-patr.org/docdisplay.php?lang=en&id=995&tla=en Look at the list of signatures at the bottom of this official document. Note how all the patriarchal churches are listed before Cyprus.<br />
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: As for the list of Cypriot privileges, of course no one denies those. But that kind of detail is appropriate for the [[Church of Cyprus]] article. (Indeed, it's already there.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 22:49, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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OK point taken. I am mistaken. You're right, in the hierarchy Cyprus is where it is, and above Greece because of her ancient autocephaly, but not above Patriarchates. [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 23:52, January 23, 2009 (UTC)<br />
:PS finally found a reference that says she was placed above the other Patriarchates, immediately AFTER Moscow. http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Cyprus.html [[User:Eugene|Eugene]] 00:28, January 26, 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:: Interesting, but dated. The patriarchal rank of Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia were all either established or restored after 1754. In any event, I wouldn't take that (whatever it is) as a reliable source on how the Orthodox churches are actually ranked by the Orthodox churches. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]] <font face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">('''[[User:ASDamick/Wiki-philosophy|THINK!]]''')</font></small> 00:49, January 26, 2009 (UTC)</div>K.panteleimon