https://en.orthodoxwiki.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Filipino&feedformat=atomOrthodoxWiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T13:24:47ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.30.0https://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=55677Talk:Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-09-09T07:50:47Z<p>Filipino: Polemics Removed</p>
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This language is pretty strong -- maybe it would be helpful to have more identification here -- what are these groups like, what are they called? "Clandestine and cultic" should have some documentation to fill it out, otherwise this language is just regarded as personal opinion. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::Thanks, Filipino - it's very interesting, if not helpful, to see all of those groups. Perhaps strong language is appropriate, but maybe they are not all clandestine or cultic according to your definitions? Definitely they breed confusion, and it can be good to identify groups to avoid. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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If they are clandestine as you say "Filipino, then why are they listed with the Philippine Exchange Commission, have been recognized as religious entities by the Philippine government, and some of these groups are members of the National Council of Churches in the Philippines. Please stop politicizing this entry. ---Marcus<br />
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:The term "clandestine" has been removed. The groups are what they are - it isn't really of concern to us here. Marcus, can you provide any solid documentation related to the arrival of the Lebanese families you metioned in the 1800's? Thanks, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Antiochians in the Philippines ==<br />
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It appears that there is some polemic here, with Marcus representing the Antiochian side and Filipino representing the Greek side. Both have provided different histories of the origins of Orthodoxy in the Philippines, which each seem to bolster jurisdictional claims.<br />
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It's difficult for me to imagine that Antiochians aren't in communion with Greeks -- is this really the case? Was the deacon merely representing himself, or was he sent by his bishop?<br />
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I can definitely see the canonical problems here, though. It may be helpful to keep in mind that these canonical issues persist throughout the "diaspora" - hence the historical interest in claiming first landing in the country. There is no doubt that these conflicts will remain with us for some time. My hope is that on the wiki we can seek to describe the situation as completely and dispassionately as possible, with attention to the historical circumstance and competing canonical claims. We are definitely biased towards the what we call "Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy", i.e. those churches in communion with the ancient patriarchates (with the exception of Rome), but I would prefer to remain as neutral as possible in the midst of inter-jurisdictional disputes such as this. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 10:45, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand or any Orthdox Church. His views do not represent the views of any canonical bishop in Australia --Marcus<br />
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:Would you want the family names? The Syrian and Lebanese Consulates in Manila confirmed that after the opening of foreign trade, a number of Ottoman subjects from the Greater Syria province arrived in the Philippines including the Sa-id and Saliba (which became Filipino-nized into "Soliba") families. The Sa-id family has the records to show that their ancestors worked on British ships in the Philippines. <br />
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Furthermore, I deleted the references because it is too politicized and shows blind papal-cesaerism, not to mention its highly inaccurate and anti-Arab. The Greek Orthodox Church in the Philippines can not call itself ''the'' Orthodox Church of the Philippines because it is not legally entitled to do so, check the SEC registration again. Nor does it have the canonical or moral authority to do so. According to the 1, 2, 3 Ecumenical Councils, Antioch is entitled to the jurisdictional territory of the "East" which means all of Asia and for this reason Antioch had parishes in China, Indonesia, and India as early as the 2nd century in the year of our Lord. It is also known that the Patriarchate of Moscow still considers the Philippines its missionary area because of its early presence here and also a major concern has arisen with the stories coming out of Indonesia about the Greek Orthodox Church and how 3/4 of the Indonesian Orthodox Christians are now under the omphorion of the ROCOR. <br />
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However, all God-fearing Russian and Antiochian Orthodox in Australia share a general sorrow for what has happened in SE Asia after stories from Indonesia have emerged.<br />
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Also if you would have taken the time to examine the SEC registration, you would have noticed that the registration of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines was a gift from Chris Gain to Patriarch Ignatius IV of (the City of God of) Antioch and All the East. That is why Chris Gain is mentioned in the paperwork. The Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese has nothing to do with gifts to the patriarchate and they would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning them in the article without their authorization. I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas. The Antiochian Archdiocese was as uninformed as was the Greek Metropolitanate of Hong Kong about this gift. <br />
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May God grant you guidance and wisdom to refrain from attacking the ancient See of Antioch and for showing more discernment in your writing about Orthodoxy in the Philippines.<br />
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--Marcus<br />
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:It seems to me that we should keep the reference in to the Lebenese families. Not sure why it is so contentious. Certainly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from someplace arrived here first" argument. It's an interesting historical tidbit, anyway. <br />
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:About the other matters, I kindly request that you both refrain from personal attacks and from attributing bad motives to one another, at least here. These are difficult issues, and it's a difficult time in church history (can't think of one that wasn't...). Ultimately, the bishops must work these things out. Honestly, I think that all of these "it's my territory" claims are doomed to failure in the so-called diaspora. The world has changed - increased mobility of peoples and other forces of globalization means that traditionally Orthodox peoples, each with their own histories, find themselves in far corners of the earth. Naturally, they bring their heritage -- and their hierarchy -- with them when there is no established and deeply rooted Orthodox church body in the region. The various jurisdictions will simply have to learn to live with each other under these new circumstances, observing and preserving carefully the bonds of communion which tie us together. I am sympathetic with the desire for canonical order that I see reflected in Filipino's statements, as well as the desire for an authentically indigenous Orthodoxy I see in Marcus' comments. It seems to me that these issues won't be really worked out unless there is a functioning primacy according to Orthodox canonical tradition, that bears the interests of the whole deeply in its heart. We may all dream of such a day, but it doesn't appear that this will happen anytime soon.<br />
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:I want to emphasize once again that the role of OrthodoxWiki is not to take a side in these debates, but to honestly reflect the situation as clearly as possibly, avoiding gossip, speculation, and slander. The articles should reflect ''who'' says ''what'', ''where'', ''when'' and (to the degree it can be ascertained) ''why''. This may not solve anything -- but that's not the purpose here. I hope this approach will be of service to people trying to figure these things out on all sides. <br />
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:May God bless us and have mercy on all of His struggling children! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=54499Talk:Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-08-04T02:45:08Z<p>Filipino: Replacing page with '{{db-userreq}}'</p>
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<div>{{db-userreq}}</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=53738Talk:Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-07-08T03:44:25Z<p>Filipino: /* Vacant See */ about the rumor of the so-called "vacant" OMHKSEA see.</p>
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::::::'''OMHKSEA ORDINANCE Section VII'''<br />
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:IV. When the Metropolitan is absent from the region or ill or not able to perform his administrative and spiritual responsibilities, '''the Chancellor of the Metropolitan Archdiocese shall perform all necessary duties on his behalf'''.<br />
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See: [http://www.orthodox.cn/contemporary/stlukecathedral/1163_en.htm Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia Ordinance. Section VII, Article IV] --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 09:22, June 12, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Vacant See==<br />
In March of 2007, Metropolitan Nikitas was appointed Director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute and has relocated to California. See http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/metropolitannikitasbio.html and also the Press Release at http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/files/NikitasRelease.doc {{unsigned|Stmitrophan}}<br />
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:Why write '''"VACANT"'''? Who told you so? This is an undocumented claim. There is no '''official announcement''' yet coming from the Office of the Ecumenical Patriarchate that the Episcopal seat of '''OMHKSEA''' is '''"VACANT"'''. Let us wait for further '''OFFICIAL''' announcement before jumping into conclusion based on '''CONJECTURES''' and bad '''RUMORS'''.<br />
: -[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] at 11:35, May 30, 2006<br />
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:John, you're right that perhaps another bishop will seamlessly be consecrated (or moved) to fill the spot. Maybe there is a difference here in the use of terms -- "vacant" as a formal and canonical description and "vacant" simply meaning "there is no current bishop appointed." I assume the term was meant here more casually? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::...and, in any event, it's just a comment on a talk page. It wasn't even incorporated into the article. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 05:24, May 30, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:::The allegation that the Episcopal seat of the Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia is "VACANT" was not merely "a comment on a talk page". This rumor was "incorporated" into the OMHKSEA Wiki article by Wiki User '''Marcus''' last May 2007 and he wrote:<br />
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:::"The '''Episcopacy is currently vacant as of March, 2007''' and may be '''abolished''' pending the decision of the Holy and Sacred Synod of Constantinople." - <br />
:::''Please see'':[http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&oldid=50808] User '''MARCUS''' Revision in OMHKSEA "Episcopacy" on '''May 04, 2007''' .<br />
::: The readers are hereby warned regarding statements posted here by the said user.<br />
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==Episcopacy==<br />
This section is usually for the bishop of a particular see. However, this metropolis has so many exarchates that I thought it best to include the chief priests for each exarchate. This does not mean, however, that every priest should be listed - this should be done in on the OMHKSEA website, or at the most (and the need is ''very'' dubious), in its own article. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="red">Pι</font>]][[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]][[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="yellow">τ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]][[User:Pistevo|<font color="blue">vο</font>]] at 23:19, July 15, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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:There are directories of parishes by state -- maybe a regional directory could be created for this purpose? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=53495Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-06-29T07:16:42Z<p>Filipino: /* Exarchate of the Philippines */ link to the site updated</p>
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The '''Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia''', headquartered in Hong Kong, is an [[eparchy]] of the [[Church of Constantinople]]. Its current [[bishop]] is His Eminence [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]], [[Metropolitan]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, which includes Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.<br />
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*Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia has held this position from 1999-2007. He is currently serving as the director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute in Berkeley, California. The chancellor of the The Chancellor of the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia, Archimandrite Konstantinos Tsilis, is guiding the Metropolitanate in his absence, until he returns or another bishop is selected.<br />
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*Archimandrite [[Lazarus (Moore)]], missionary in India 1952-1972.<br />
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* [http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines.] <br />
* [http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html/ Greeks in the Philippines & Their Contribution to the Country]<br />
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* [http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/church_history/byantoro_indonesia.htm Birth of Orthodoxy in Indonesia]<br />
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The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
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== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
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After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
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== The Arrival Of Orthodoxy ==<br />
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It appears that the first Orthodox Christians on the islands were Syrian and Lebanese merchants and sailors, who arrived in Manila after Manila was opened to outside trade. The first recorded Orthodox Christians in the Philippines were Syrian and Lebanese sailors in 1802 according to the Syrian Consulate in Manila. Many of the Lebanese sailors married and their families still reside in the Philippines and have become Filipino citizens, including the owners of a famous pizza parlor in Manila. The oldest Orthodox Christian in the Philippines, a Lebanese by the last name of Assad, was born around 1904 and is still alive. <br />
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An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
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In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
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Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
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One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
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Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
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In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
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'''Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy'''<br />
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On April 20, 1990, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
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On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
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In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
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==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
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Currently, there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines under the spiritual jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and are administratively under an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece. <br />
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The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and in Filipino, the official language of the Philippines.<br />
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==Links==<br />
*[http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/index.htm Orthodox Church in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines by Rev. Dr. John Chryssavgis]<br />
*[http://www.orthodoxnews.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=WorldNews.one&content_id=7354&CFID=29993857&CFTOKEN=90155693 Ecumenical Patriarch Consecrates Annunciation Church in Manila]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.cn/news/20000420philippines_en.htm Orthodox Patriarch Visits Fledgling Local Orthodox Church]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of Orthodox missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
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The '''Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia''', headquartered in Hong Kong, is an [[eparchy]] of the [[Church of Constantinople]]. Its current [[bishop]] is His Eminence [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]], [[Metropolitan]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, which includes Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.<br />
{{diocese|<br />
name=Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia|<br />
jurisdiction=[[Church of Constantinople|Constantinople]]|<br />
type=Metropolis|<br />
founded=1996|<br />
bishop=[[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Metr. Nikitas]]|<br />
see=Hong Kong|<br />
hq=Hong Kong|<br />
territory=Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan|<br />
language=English, Greek, other native languages|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]]|<br />
calendar=[[Revised Julian Calendar|Revised Julian]]|<br />
population=''unknown''|<br />
website=[http://www.omhksea.org/ OMHKSEA]<br />
}}<br />
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== Recent History ==<br />
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==Organization==<br />
The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia is treated as one single archdiocese with five archdiocesan districts: New South Wales and the Australian Capital Territory; Victoria and Tasmania; South Australia and the Northern Territory; Queensland and New Guinea; and Western Australia. To assist the archbishop, he has an amount of assistant bishops - currently three, but in previous times as many as five. There are 118 [[parish]]es and communities across Australia, and approximately 300,000 [[faithful]] in the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia.<br />
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The Archdiocese also includes 6 [[monasticism|monasteries]]. The largest male monastery is the Holy [[Monastery of Pantanassa (Mangrove, Australia)|Monastery of Pantanassa]] in New South Wales, and the largest female monastery is the Holy [[Monastery of Gorgoepikoos (Geelong, Australia)|Monastery of Gorgoepikoos]] in Victoria. In 1982, the archdiocese began the St Andrew's Greek Orthodox Theological College in Sydney, where Archbishop Stylianos currently serves as dean and Bishop Seraphim as sub-dean. As the lone theological college in Australasia, it often accepts students of other jurisdictions.<br />
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The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia is also a founding member of [[SCCOCA]].<br />
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== The Episcopacy ==<br />
[[Image:Metr._Nikitas_of_Hong_Kong.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Metr. Nikitas]]<br />
*Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia has held this position from 1999-2007. He is currently serving as the director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute in Berkeley, California. The chancellor of the The Chancellor of the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia, Archimandrite Konstantinos Tsilis, is guiding the Metropolitanate in his absence, until he returns or another bishop is selected.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Daniel (Toyne)]] is the sole priest in Singapore.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Jonah (Mourtos)]] is the sole priest in Taiwan.<br />
*Vicar [[Nikitas (Mellios)]] is the senior active priest in the Philippines.<br />
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==Related articles==<br />
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*Archimandrite [[Lazarus (Moore)]], missionary in India 1952-1972.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Philemon (Castro)]], priest in the Philippines.<br />
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===External links===<br />
* [http://www.omhksea.org Official Website of the Metropolitanate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchate.org/ Official Website of the Orthodox Patriarchate of Constantinople]<br />
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====Exarchate of Singapore====<br />
* [http://www.geocities.com/orthodoxchurchsg Holy Resurrection Orthodox Church] in Singapore.<br />
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====Exarchate of Taiwan====<br />
* [http://www.orthodox.com.tw/ Holy Trinity Orthodox Church] in Taiwan.<br />
* [http://flickr.com/photos/90309235@N00/116898662/in/set-72057594089294852/ Orthodox Christian Liturgy in Taipei, Pascha 2004]<br />
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====Exarchate of the [[Orthodoxy in the Philippines|Philippines]]====<br />
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* [http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines.] <br />
* [http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Cathedral]<br />
* [http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html/ Greeks in the Philippines & Their Contribution to the Country]<br />
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====Exarchate of [[Orthodoxy in Indonesia|Indonesia]]====<br />
* [http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/church_history/byantoro_indonesia.htm Birth of Orthodoxy in Indonesia]<br />
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* [http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/home The Indonesian Orthodox Church]<br />
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====Exarchate of India====<br />
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* [http://www.psoc-cal.org/ Philanthropic Society of the Orthodox Church - Calcutta].<br />
* [http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/history_india.html History of the Church in India].<br />
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[[Category:Orthodoxy in China]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=53036Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-16T03:46:07Z<p>Filipino: /* Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today */ changed Tagalog to Filipino, the official and the national language of the Philippines that is based on Tagalog (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Filipino)</p>
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<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
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== The Arrival Of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Antiochian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
It appears that the first Orthodox Christians on the islands were Syrian and Lebanese merchants and sailors, who arrived in Manila after Manila was opened to outside trade. The first recorded Orthodox Christians in the Philippines were Syrian and Lebanese sailors in 1802 according to the Syrian Consulate in Manila. Many of the Lebanese sailors married and their families still reside in the Philippines and have become Filipino citizens, including the owners of a famous pizza parlor in Manila. The oldest Orthodox Christian in the Philippines, a Lebanese by the last name of Assad, was born around 1904 and is still alive. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Russian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
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== Greek Orthodox Christians and the Rebirth of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
'''The Arrival of Greek Orthodox Christians'''<br />
<br />
Around the beginning of the twentieth century, Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and many of whom have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines, including serving as the Greek consulate in Manila. Though they do not speak Greek, they were largely responsible for the re-establishment of an Orthodox presence in the Philippines through their encouragement of Filipino converts and the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation.<br />
<br />
'''The Hellenic Orthodox Foundation'''<br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
'''Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy'''<br />
<br />
On April 20, 1990, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
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On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
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In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
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==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that use the term "Orthodox"; however, they are not in communion with or are recognized by any canonical Eastern or Oriental Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
'''Ecumenical Patriarchate'''<br />
<br />
Currently, there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines under the spiritual jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and are administratively under an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece. <br />
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The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and in Filipino, the official language of the Philippines.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines by Rev. Dr. John Chryssavgis]<br />
*[http://www.orthodoxnews.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=WorldNews.one&content_id=7354&CFID=29993857&CFTOKEN=90155693 Ecumenical Patriarch Consecrates Annunciation Church in Manila]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.cn/news/20000420philippines_en.htm Orthodox Patriarch Visits Fledgling Local Orthodox Church]<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Cathedral in Manila]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of Orthodox missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
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{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=53035Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-16T03:06:53Z<p>Filipino: /* Links */ Added link to an article from "Orthodox Christian News" on the consecration of the Annunciation Orthodox Church in Manila by the Ecumenical Patriarch in 2000.</p>
<hr />
<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
<br />
== The Arrival Of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Antiochian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
It appears that the first Orthodox Christians on the islands were Syrian and Lebanese merchants and sailors, who arrived in Manila after Manila was opened to outside trade. The first recorded Orthodox Christians in the Philippines were Syrian and Lebanese sailors in 1802 according to the Syrian Consulate in Manila. Many of the Lebanese sailors married and their families still reside in the Philippines and have become Filipino citizens, including the owners of a famous pizza parlor in Manila. The oldest Orthodox Christian in the Philippines, a Lebanese by the last name of Assad, was born around 1904 and is still alive. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Russian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Greek Orthodox Christians and the Rebirth of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
'''The Arrival of Greek Orthodox Christians'''<br />
<br />
Around the beginning of the twentieth century, Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and many of whom have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines, including serving as the Greek consulate in Manila. Though they do not speak Greek, they were largely responsible for the re-establishment of an Orthodox presence in the Philippines through their encouragement of Filipino converts and the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation.<br />
<br />
'''The Hellenic Orthodox Foundation'''<br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
'''Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy'''<br />
<br />
On April 20, 1990, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that use the term "Orthodox"; however, they are not in communion with or are recognized by any canonical Eastern or Oriental Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
'''Ecumenical Patriarchate'''<br />
<br />
Currently, there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines under the spiritual jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and are administratively under an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece. <br />
<br />
The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and Tagalog.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines by Rev. Dr. John Chryssavgis]<br />
*[http://www.orthodoxnews.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=WorldNews.one&content_id=7354&CFID=29993857&CFTOKEN=90155693 Ecumenical Patriarch Consecrates Annunciation Church in Manila]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.cn/news/20000420philippines_en.htm Orthodox Patriarch Visits Fledgling Local Orthodox Church]<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Cathedral in Manila]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of Orthodox missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
<br />
<br />
{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52932Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-14T16:44:19Z<p>Filipino: /* Greek Orthodox Christians and the Rebirth of Orthodoxy */ placed the correct and exact date of the reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy as documented by Dr. Fr. John Chryssavgis.</p>
<hr />
<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
<br />
== The Arrival Of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Antiochian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
It appears that the first Orthodox Christians on the islands were Syrian and Lebanese merchants and sailors, who arrived in Manila after Manila was opened to outside trade. The first recorded Orthodox Christians in the Philippines were Syrian and Lebanese sailors in 1802 according to the Syrian Consulate in Manila. Many of the Lebanese sailors married and their families still reside in the Philippines and have become Filipino citizens, including the owners of a famous pizza parlor in Manila. The oldest Orthodox Christian in the Philippines, a Lebanese by the last name of Assad, was born around 1904 and is still alive. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Russian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Greek Orthodox Christians and the Rebirth of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
'''The Arrival of Greek Orthodox Christians'''<br />
<br />
Around the beginning of the twentieth century, Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and many of whom have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines, including serving as the Greek consulate in Manila. Though they do not speak Greek, they were largely responsible for the re-establishment of an Orthodox presence in the Philippines through their encouragement of Filipino converts and the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation.<br />
<br />
'''The Hellenic Orthodox Foundation'''<br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
'''Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy'''<br />
<br />
On April 20, 1990, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that use the term "Orthodox"; however, they are not in communion with or are recognized by any canonical Eastern or Oriental Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
'''Ecumenical Patriarchate'''<br />
<br />
Currently, there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines under the spiritual jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and are administratively under an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece. <br />
<br />
The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and Tagalog.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines by Rev. Dr. John Chryssavgis]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.cn/news/20000420philippines_en.htm Orthodox Patriarch Visits Fledgling Local Orthodox Church]<br />
<br />
<br />
{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52929Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-14T16:38:28Z<p>Filipino: /* Greek Orthodox Christians and the Rebirth of Orthodoxy */ reverted to previous subheading: "Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy'''</p>
<hr />
<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
<br />
== The Arrival Of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Antiochian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
It appears that the first Orthodox Christians on the islands were Syrian and Lebanese merchants and sailors, who arrived in Manila after Manila was opened to outside trade. The first recorded Orthodox Christians in the Philippines were Syrian and Lebanese sailors in 1802 according to the Syrian Consulate in Manila. Many of the Lebanese sailors married and their families still reside in the Philippines and have become Filipino citizens, including the owners of a famous pizza parlor in Manila. The oldest Orthodox Christian in the Philippines, a Lebanese by the last name of Assad, was born around 1904 and is still alive. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Russian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Greek Orthodox Christians and the Rebirth of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
'''The Arrival of Greek Orthodox Christians'''<br />
<br />
Around the beginning of the twentieth century, Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and many of whom have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines, including serving as the Greek consulate in Manila. Though they do not speak Greek, they were largely responsible for the re-establishment of an Orthodox presence in the Philippines through their encouragement of Filipino converts and the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation.<br />
<br />
'''The Hellenic Orthodox Foundation'''<br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
'''Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy'''<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that use the term "Orthodox"; however, they are not in communion with or are recognized by any canonical Eastern or Oriental Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
'''Ecumenical Patriarchate'''<br />
<br />
Currently, there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines under the spiritual jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and are administratively under an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece. <br />
<br />
The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and Tagalog.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines by Rev. Dr. John Chryssavgis]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.cn/news/20000420philippines_en.htm Orthodox Patriarch Visits Fledgling Local Orthodox Church]<br />
<br />
<br />
{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52928Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-14T16:36:42Z<p>Filipino: /* Greek Orthodox Christians and the Rebirth of Orthodoxy */ changed "ordination" to "reception". The subject being discussed is the reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy.</p>
<hr />
<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
<br />
== The Arrival Of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Antiochian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
It appears that the first Orthodox Christians on the islands were Syrian and Lebanese merchants and sailors, who arrived in Manila after Manila was opened to outside trade. The first recorded Orthodox Christians in the Philippines were Syrian and Lebanese sailors in 1802 according to the Syrian Consulate in Manila. Many of the Lebanese sailors married and their families still reside in the Philippines and have become Filipino citizens, including the owners of a famous pizza parlor in Manila. The oldest Orthodox Christian in the Philippines, a Lebanese by the last name of Assad, was born around 1904 and is still alive. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Russian Orthodox Christians'''<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Greek Orthodox Christians and the Rebirth of Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
'''The Arrival of Greek Orthodox Christians'''<br />
<br />
Around the beginning of the twentieth century, Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and many of whom have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines, including serving as the Greek consulate in Manila. Though they do not speak Greek, they were largely responsible for the re-establishment of an Orthodox presence in the Philippines through their encouragement of Filipino converts and the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation.<br />
<br />
'''The Hellenic Orthodox Foundation'''<br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
'''Reception of the first Filipino converts to'''<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that use the term "Orthodox"; however, they are not in communion with or are recognized by any canonical Eastern or Oriental Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
'''Ecumenical Patriarchate'''<br />
<br />
Currently, there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines under the spiritual jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and are administratively under an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece. <br />
<br />
The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and Tagalog.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines by Rev. Dr. John Chryssavgis]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.cn/news/20000420philippines_en.htm Orthodox Patriarch Visits Fledgling Local Orthodox Church]<br />
<br />
<br />
{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52825Talk:Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-13T04:20:31Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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<div>=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
This language is pretty strong -- maybe it would be helpful to have more identification here -- what are these groups like, what are they called? "Clandestine and cultic" should have some documentation to fill it out, otherwise this language is just regarded as personal opinion. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
<br />
<br />
=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
<br />
Dear Father John,<br />
The online dictionary defined the word '''clandestine''' as "'''existing or operating in a way so as to ensure complete concealment and confidentiality'''" ([http://www.answers.com/topic/clandestine]). The American Heritage Dictionary defined the word '''cult''' as "a religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or '''false''', with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. Listed below are registered churches in the Philippines claiming to be "Orthodox". No other information can be obtained from the internet except the name of their church. I have talked with some members and clergymen of these "orthodox" groups years back while I was searchin for the true Orthodox Church and I found out that they professed the Hindu, Buddhist and "New Age" doctrine of Karma and '''Reincarnation'''. They also believed in "mediums" (i.e., Christ, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Theotokos, the Child Jesus etc. possesing their spiritual leaders (priests and bishops) thereby receiving from them the power to heal, prophesy etc.).<br />
<br />
1. ARCHBISHOP ISAAC NEE DANIEL L. GOROSPE EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, INC. <br />
<br />
2. ARCHBISHOP JAMES NEE LEON C. CACHERO JR. INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, INC. <br />
<br />
3. ARCHBISHOP PATRIARCH ABRAHAM JOHN PAUL I NEE ARTEMIO FRANCISCO. <br />
<br />
4. PAULINO CANETE-PINERO D.D. OF THE ORTHODOX MISSIONARY FATHERS. <br />
<br />
5. BISHOP OF LOS BANOS OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
6. BISHOP PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
7. BISHOP UNITED ORTHODOX APOSTOLIC EASTERN CHURCH, INC.<br />
<br />
8. CONGREGATION OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSIONARIES INC. <br />
<br />
9. DIOCESAN BISHOP OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CANONICAL DIOCESE OF THE PHILS. INC. <br />
<br />
10. DIVINE ORTHODOX CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC.<br />
<br />
11. FAR EAST ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
12. GOVERNING HIERARCH OF THE ASIAN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
13. HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
<br />
14. KATHOLIKOS ARCHIEREUS OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH ORD. IN PHILS. <br />
<br />
15. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH OF AMERICAS & ASIA INC. <br />
<br />
16. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION INCORPORATED <br />
<br />
17. ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES, INC. <br />
<br />
18. PHIL. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
19. PHIL. PATRIARCH OF THE HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
<br />
20. PRESIDING PRESBYTER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILS. INC. <br />
<br />
21. PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
22. SAN AGUSTIN III (DASMARINAS CAVITE) RESIDENTS & MEMBERS OF INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. <br />
<br />
23. SOVEREIGN ORDER OF THE ORTHODOX HOSPITALLERS OF ST. JOHN.<br />
<br />
24. ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH, INC. <br />
<br />
25. UNITED ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
<br />
26. WESTERN AND EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH MISSIONARIES SOCIETY INC. <br />
<br />
27. WESTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Source''': The Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission<br />
[http://www.sec.gov.ph/]<br />
<br />
<br />
There are other unregistered clandestine and cultic "churches" claiming to be orthodox which are not included in the above list. <br />
<br />
Father, since you find the language "pretty strong" please provide a more appropriate alternative. Thank you very much. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 21:27, June 7, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Filipino - it's very interesting, if not helpful, to see all of those groups. Perhaps strong language is appropriate, but maybe they are not all clandestine or cultic according to your definitions? Definitely they breed confusion, and it can be good to identify groups to avoid. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::Dear Father John I already removed the "strong language". Thank you for your unbiased insight and kind remarks.<br />
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If they are clandestine as you say "Filipino, then why are they listed with the Philippine Exchange Commission, have been recognized as religious entities by the Philippine government, and some of these groups are members of the National Council of Churches in the Philippines. Please stop politicizing this entry. ---Marcus<br />
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:The term "clandestine" has been removed. The groups are what they are - it isn't really of concern to us here. Marcus, can you provide any solid documentation related to the arrival of the Lebanese families you metioned in the 1800's? Thanks, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Antiochians in the Philippines ==<br />
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It appears that there is some polemic here, with Marcus representing the Antiochian side and Filipino representing the Greek side. Both have provided different histories of the origins of Orthodoxy in the Philippines, which each seem to bolster jurisdictional claims.<br />
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It's difficult for me to imagine that Antiochians aren't in communion with Greeks -- is this really the case? Was the deacon merely representing himself, or was he sent by his bishop?<br />
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I can definitely see the canonical problems here, though. It may be helpful to keep in mind that these canonical issues persist throughout the "diaspora" - hence the historical interest in claiming first landing in the country. There is no doubt that these conflicts will remain with us for some time. My hope is that on the wiki we can seek to describe the situation as completely and dispassionately as possible, with attention to the historical circumstance and competing canonical claims. We are definitely biased towards the what we call "Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy", i.e. those churches in communion with the ancient patriarchates (with the exception of Rome), but I would prefer to remain as neutral as possible in the midst of inter-jurisdictional disputes such as this. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 10:45, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand or any Orthdox Church. His views do not represent the views of any canonical bishop in Australia --Marcus<br />
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: I reverted the article to the previus revision as of 17:37, June 8, 2007 by Fr. John. Marcus, please justify your act of deleting the reference to the first reception of Filipino Orthodox Christians in the Philippines and for removing the links to the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines. Likewise, Marcus, please cite your sources and historical documents to support your claim about the Lebanese and Syrian Christians in the Philippines. If you can provide evidence and documentation for this then reference to Lebanese and Syrian Christians as the "first" Orthodox Christians in the Philippines should be included in the article.<br />
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:Would you want the family names? The Syrian and Lebanese Consulates in Manila confirmed that after the opening of foreign trade, a number of Ottoman subjects from the Greater Syria province arrived in the Philippines including the Sa-id and Saliba (which became Filipino-nized into "Soliba") families. The Sa-id family has the records to show that their ancestors worked on British ships in the Philippines. <br />
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Furthermore, I deleted the references because it is too politicized and shows blind papal-cesaerism, not to mention its highly inaccurate and anti-Arab. The Greek Orthodox Church in the Philippines can not call itself ''the'' Orthodox Church of the Philippines because it is not legally entitled to do so, check the SEC registration again. Nor does it have the canonical or moral authority to do so. According to the 1, 2, 3 Ecumenical Councils, Antioch is entitled to the jurisdictional territory of the "East" which means all of Asia and for this reason Antioch had parishes in China, Indonesia, and India as early as the 2nd century in the year of our Lord. It is also known that the Patriarchate of Moscow still considers the Philippines its missionary area because of its early presence here and also a major concern has arisen with the stories coming out of Indonesia about the Greek Orthodox Church and how 3/4 of the Indonesian Orthodox Christians are now under the omphorion of the ROCOR. <br />
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However, all God-fearing Russian and Antiochian Orthodox in Australia share a general sorrow for what has happened in SE Asia after stories from Indonesia have emerged.<br />
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Also if you would have taken the time to examine the SEC registration, you would have noticed that the registration of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines was a gift from Chris Gain to Patriarch Ignatius IV of (the City of God of) Antioch and All the East. That is why Chris Gain is mentioned in the paperwork. The Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese has nothing to do with gifts to the patriarchate and they would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning them in the article without their authorization. I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas. The Antiochian Archdiocese was as uninformed as was the Greek Metropolitanate of Hong Kong about this gift. <br />
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May God grant you guidance and wisdom to refrain from attacking the ancient See of Antioch and for showing more discernment in your writing about Orthodoxy in the Philippines.<br />
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:It seems to me that we should keep the reference in to the Lebenese families. Not sure why it is so contentious. Certainly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from someplace arrived here first" argument. It's an interesting historical tidbit, anyway. <br />
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:About the other matters, I kindly request that you both refrain from personal attacks and from attributing bad motives to one another, at least here. These are difficult issues, and it's a difficult time in church history (can't think of one that wasn't...). Ultimately, the bishops must work these things out. Honestly, I think that all of these "it's my territory" claims are doomed to failure in the so-called diaspora. The world has changed - increased mobility of peoples and other forces of globalization means that traditionally Orthodox peoples, each with their own histories, find themselves in far corners of the earth. Naturally, they bring their heritage -- and their hierarchy -- with them when there is no established and deeply rooted Orthodox church body in the region. The various jurisdictions will simply have to learn to live with each other under these new circumstances, observing and preserving carefully the bonds of communion which tie us together. I am sympathetic with the desire for canonical order that I see reflected in Filipino's statements, as well as the desire for an authentically indigenous Orthodoxy I see in Marcus' comments. It seems to me that these issues won't be really worked out unless there is a functioning primacy according to Orthodox canonical tradition, that bears the interests of the whole deeply in its heart. We may all dream of such a day, but it doesn't appear that this will happen anytime soon.<br />
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:I want to emphasize once again that the role of OrthodoxWiki is not to take a side in these debates, but to honestly reflect the situation as clearly as possibly, avoiding gossip, speculation, and slander. The articles should reflect ''who'' says ''what'', ''where'', ''when'' and (to the degree it can be ascertained) ''why''. This may not solve anything -- but that's not the purpose here. I hope this approach will be of service to people trying to figure these things out on all sides. <br />
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:: Dear Father John, I totally agree with you. Truly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from some place arrived here first" argument. Sadly, it is a well known fact that those who deny the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the diaspora are mostly those who belong from the uncanonical group of eastern orthodoxy. Again, thank you very much for your valuable insight. Marcus, can you tell us more about the "Orthodox Church in the Philippines" which is registered at the Philippine SEC as the "'''Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas'''". Its website does not indicate any address in the Philippines and abroad. Is it under the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch? In the year 2007 Antiochian Archbishop's Report Fr. Deacon Chris Gain's name is listed as one of the Deacons under the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia (pls. see [http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/615/22/ Archbishop's Report.])His name is also listed at number 14 under "Clergy no longer with the Archdiocese". You wrote that "Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand '''or any Orthdox Church'''" but the February 06, 2007 ([http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/602/0/ Antiochian Archdiocese News.])wrote: "With the written blessing of Metropolitan Archbishop Paul, Father Deacon Christopher was released from the Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand this day '''to assist the Patriarchate located in Damascus, Syria'''." But you said Chris Gain is not a deacon in "any other Orthodox Church". And why did you refer to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain simply as "Chris Gain"? I hope you can shed more light on this. Thank you. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 04:09, June 9, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Marcus, could you please justify the reason why edited your previous post and deleted reference to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain? Let me quote here the deleted portion (emphasis and italics mine):<br />
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"Also if you would have taken the time to examine the SEC registration since you specifically mention it, you would have noticed that '''the registration of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines was a gift from Chris Gain to Patriarch Ignatius IV of (the City of God of) Antioch and All the East'''. That is why '''Chris Gain''' is mentioned in the paperwork. The Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese has nothing to do with gifts to the patriarchate and they would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning them in the article without their authorization. ''I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania '''has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas'''.'' The Antiochian Archdiocese was as '''uninformed''' as was the Greek Metropolitanate of Hong Kong about this gift and the Archdiocese only found out about this recently." -Marcus -(Pls see: [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52668&oldid=52663 Talk Page Revisions])<br />
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I guess the reason for your deletion is that you just made this all up (except of course for the fact that the the Metropolitan in Hong Kong and the local Orthodox Clergy in the Philippines were '''not informed''' by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain when he "clandestinely" registered his ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas"'' or Orthodox Church of the Philippines at the Philippine SEC in Manila last December 2006. I used the strong word "clandestinely registered" because of the fact that Fr. Deacon Chris Gain did not inform anyone at the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong including the local Filipino Orthodox clergy in the Philippines as you yourself affirmed. You also alleged that the Antiochian Archdiocese in Australia was also "'''uninformed'''" and worse, the Antiochian Archbishop "only found out about this recently", hence, if this allegation of yours is true, this only serves to confirm without any reason of a doubt the '''clandestine''' manner by which Fr. Deacon Chris Gain registered and established this ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas".'' As for the questionable canonicity of this clandestinely established church, the ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas",'' this is clearly demonstrated based on your revelations.<br />
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Everyone should also know Fr. Deacon Chris and his Filipino contacts in the Philippines also clandestinely registered the "'''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC'''. " in the Philippine SEC last December 2006 (pls. see [http://iregister.sec.gov.ph/MainServlet Philippine Securities and Echange Commission.]). Now my question Marcus, was His Beatitude Ignatius IV Patriarch of Antioch informed beforehand by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain and by the Antiochian Archbishop of Australia of the registration of the '''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC ''' or was he also '''"uninformed"'''? If the Patriarch of Antioch himself was '''uninformed''' so who gave Fr. Deacon Chris Gain authorization and blessing to register and establish the "'''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC'''. " and the "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas"? Now the doubtful and questionable canonicity of both entities becomes more apparent because of your revelations here at Wikipedia Talk Page. Our readers should thank you for these information.<br />
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Surprisingly, you even strongly declared that the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese in Australia has nothing to do, not only with these questionable entities but also with its founder when you wrote: '''I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of <br />
Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas'''. - Marcus <br />
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You have a lot of explaining to do Marcus. So why did you deleted all these information in your previous post? Was it because they are merely allegations based on speculations? Or you just made it all up? I have reasons to believe that it could be both. Please answer also my questions about the ''Iglesia Orthodoxa sa Pilipinas'' in my previous post. I would also advice you to be extra careful with what you post here in Wikepedia. I observed that many of them are purely speculations and mostly allegations or totally unsupported claims (please review my first edits in the Orthodoxy in the Philippines article you wrote). Thank you. --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 03:34, June 10, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Dear Filipino,<br />
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As stated before by Father John, you should refrain from personal attacks. This Orthodox wikipedia is not the forum to discuss matters that you raised. Furthermore, I also would remind you that Antioch and Istanbul are two separate independent churches and you are under the spiritual jurisdiction of Constantinople. Therefore, you as a layman and as someone from outside of the Antiochian jurisdiction, should also refrain from commenting on internal matters and problems with the Antiochian church and making such lamentable comments on Orthodox wikipedia because that is not the proper forum to do so. If Constantinople is concerned about this matter with "Iglesia Orthodoxa..." then its canonical hierarchs should write to the canonical hierarchs of Antioch. This is not a lay concern and I stand by what I have already stated. I do not need to elaborate anything more because we are not even in the same jurisdiction and for me to state anything further would be gossip. I will not engage in gossip and once again I am not the spokesperson for the Archdiocese. <br />
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Marcus, any reader of this "Orthodoxy in the Philippines Talk Page" can see and review what Antiochian secrets that you have divulged by simply looking at the "history" [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&action=history] which records the past versions of this page. This is the reason why I adviced you to be extra careful with what you post here. It is too late, even if you try to delete them over and over again the uncanonical schemes of the Antiochian Orthodox Church in the Philippines registered by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain at the Philippine SEC as "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" in December 2006 is recorded here. <br />
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Marcus, if there is somebody who should refrain from "personal attacks", making "lamentable comments" and spreading maliscious gossip and accusations etc., that person should be you. Let me remind you of the several "attacks", gossips and accusations you have written so far in the Discussion and Talk Page:<br />
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"The Greek Orthodox Church in the Philippines can not call itself the Orthodox Church of the Philippines because '''it is not legally entitled to do so''', check the SEC registration again. '''Nor does it have the canonical or moral authority to do so'''." - Marcus (pls see also [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52668&oldid=52663])<br />
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""However, many Orthodox Christians in Australia have been hearing more stories about '''the plight of Indonesian Orthodox Christians--who suffered greatly''' and are now being cared for under ROCOR--and are sensitive to issues of race, colonialism, and '''the recent uncanonical actions taken by Constantinople in Great Britain'''. In addition, there have been '''complaints made by certain non-Russian slavs in Manila''' about the lack of sacramental services to certain hierarchs. So there is considerable pressure to establish other jurisdictions in the Philippines and it is likely in the near future, the Filipinos and other nationalities will have more options and more access to Orthodoxy than the '''type of Helenic Orthodoxy that is in Manila.''' " -Marcus (pls see also [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&oldid=52663])<br />
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"Rev. Father John, Bless me, Father. I'm replying to some comments you have made in the wikipedia. You've stumbled upon an interjurisdictional dispute between three churches and whether or not the local Filipino Orthodox are actually Orthodox. Without getting into detail, ''the unofficial position of Moscow, ROCOR, and Antioch is that'' '''a majority of the ones converted into Orthodoxy in the Philippines were paid to. They continue to get paid to go to church.''' We also support Orthodoxy in the Philippines being lead by Filipinos. The Greek Orthodox Church is lead not by the Filipino priests but by a Greek married priest from Thessaloniki and the parish council is dominated by a Greek-American, Milton Adamson, which is why his name is mentioned everywhere. this is the same situation that occurred in Indonesia until the majority of Indonesians joined ROCOR in 2005. '''In another age, that church would be called a tool of colonialism. However, the Greeks prefer to call it Helenism.''' In Christ, '''Marcus''' (See also [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&oldid=52651])<br />
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You see Marcus, everything you said against me bounced back to you. Yes, you can say anything you want against the Greek Orthodox Church and the Filipinos who are under its jurisdiction but who will believe you? Now you are trying to avoid the subject about the Antiochian Orthodox Church in the Philippines all together by deleting over and over again your previous declarations. Anyway, thanks for divulging the clandestine and uncanonical scheme of the Antiochian jurisdiction in the Philippines. These are all recorded here for everyone to see. We really learned a lot from you. I do hope the Antiochian Orthodox Church in the Philippines or the "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" will not suffer the same fate as that of the short-lived (barely months old when it was disbanded) Saint Peter and Paul Antiochian Orthodox Mission in the Philippines in 2005. --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 11:08, June 11, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==On the Antiochian Jurisdiction in the Philippines==<br />
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The Antiochian Patriarchate is keen to establish new missions in keeping with Christ's command to teach all people. But all Antiochian Orthodox missions need the written permission of the patriarchate before they can be established. Once accepted, they will be provided with the assistance and supervision appropriate to their individual circumstances. <br />
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:Therefore, based on Orthodox Canon Law and Orthodox Church Tradition the Antiochian Orthodox Jurisdiction in the Philippines which was secretively (or clandestinely) established and registered is both uncanonical and ecclesiologically unacceptable. The Antiochian Orthodox Jurisdiction in the Philippines includes the now defunct and unregistered ''Saint Peter and Paul Orthodox Mission'' (under the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia), ''the Iglesia Orthodox ng Pilipinas and ''the ''"Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch and All the East INC."'' of Fr. Deacon Chris Gain (Abbot Kristofor). --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 21:20, June 12, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=52803Talk:Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-06-12T16:23:55Z<p>Filipino: /* Vacant See */</p>
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See: [http://www.orthodox.cn/contemporary/stlukecathedral/1163_en.htm Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia Ordinance. Section VII, Article IV] --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 09:22, June 12, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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In March of 2007, Metropolitan Nikitas was appointed Director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute and has relocated to California. See http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/metropolitannikitasbio.html and also the Press Release at http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/files/NikitasRelease.doc {{unsigned|Stmitrophan}}<br />
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:Why write '''"VACANT"'''? Who told you so? This is an undocumented claim. There is no '''official announcement''' yet coming from the Office of the Ecumenical Patriarchate that the Episcopal seat of '''OMHKSEA''' is '''"VACANT"'''. Let us wait for further '''OFFICIAL''' announcement before jumping into conclusion based on '''CONJECTURES''' and bad '''RUMORS'''.<br />
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:John, you're right that perhaps another bishop will seamlessly be consecrated (or moved) to fill the spot. Maybe there is a difference here in the use of terms -- "vacant" as a formal and canonical description and "vacant" simply meaning "there is no current bishop appointed." I assume the term was meant here more casually? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::...and, in any event, it's just a comment on a talk page. It wasn't even incorporated into the article. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 05:24, May 30, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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This section is usually for the bishop of a particular see. However, this metropolis has so many exarchates that I thought it best to include the chief priests for each exarchate. This does not mean, however, that every priest should be listed - this should be done in on the OMHKSEA website, or at the most (and the need is ''very'' dubious), in its own article. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="red">Pι</font>]][[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]][[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="yellow">τ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]][[User:Pistevo|<font color="blue">vο</font>]] at 23:19, July 15, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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:There are directories of parishes by state -- maybe a regional directory could be created for this purpose? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=52802Talk:Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-06-12T16:22:46Z<p>Filipino: OMHKSEA Chancellor is in charge</p>
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In March of 2007, Metropolitan Nikitas was appointed Director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute and has relocated to California. See http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/metropolitannikitasbio.html and also the Press Release at http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/files/NikitasRelease.doc {{unsigned|Stmitrophan}}<br />
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:Why write '''"VACANT"'''? Who told you so? This is an undocumented claim. There is no '''official announcement''' yet coming from the Office of the Ecumenical Patriarchate that the Episcopal seat of '''OMHKSEA''' is '''"VACANT"'''. Let us wait for further '''OFFICIAL''' announcement before jumping into conclusion based on '''CONJECTURES''' and bad '''RUMORS'''.<br />
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:John, you're right that perhaps another bishop will seamlessly be consecrated (or moved) to fill the spot. Maybe there is a difference here in the use of terms -- "vacant" as a formal and canonical description and "vacant" simply meaning "there is no current bishop appointed." I assume the term was meant here more casually? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::...and, in any event, it's just a comment on a talk page. It wasn't even incorporated into the article. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 05:24, May 30, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Episcopacy==<br />
This section is usually for the bishop of a particular see. However, this metropolis has so many exarchates that I thought it best to include the chief priests for each exarchate. This does not mean, however, that every priest should be listed - this should be done in on the OMHKSEA website, or at the most (and the need is ''very'' dubious), in its own article. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="red">Pι</font>]][[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]][[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="yellow">τ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]][[User:Pistevo|<font color="blue">vο</font>]] at 23:19, July 15, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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:There are directories of parishes by state -- maybe a regional directory could be created for this purpose? — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52797Talk:Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-12T14:44:41Z<p>Filipino: Restored all the portions arbitrarily deleted by user Marcus & Dimitri</p>
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<div>=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
This language is pretty strong -- maybe it would be helpful to have more identification here -- what are these groups like, what are they called? "Clandestine and cultic" should have some documentation to fill it out, otherwise this language is just regarded as personal opinion. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
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Dear Father John,<br />
The online dictionary defined the word '''clandestine''' as "'''existing or operating in a way so as to ensure complete concealment and confidentiality'''" ([http://www.answers.com/topic/clandestine]). The American Heritage Dictionary defined the word '''cult''' as "a religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or '''false''', with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. Listed below are registered churches in the Philippines claiming to be "Orthodox". No other information can be obtained from the internet except the name of their church. I have talked with some members and clergymen of these "orthodox" groups years back while I was searchin for the true Orthodox Church and I found out that they professed the Hindu, Buddhist and "New Age" doctrine of Karma and '''Reincarnation'''. They also believed in "mediums" (i.e., Christ, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Theotokos, the Child Jesus etc. possesing their spiritual leaders (priests and bishops) thereby receiving from them the power to heal, prophesy etc.).<br />
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1. ARCHBISHOP ISAAC NEE DANIEL L. GOROSPE EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, INC. <br />
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2. ARCHBISHOP JAMES NEE LEON C. CACHERO JR. INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, INC. <br />
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3. ARCHBISHOP PATRIARCH ABRAHAM JOHN PAUL I NEE ARTEMIO FRANCISCO. <br />
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4. PAULINO CANETE-PINERO D.D. OF THE ORTHODOX MISSIONARY FATHERS. <br />
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5. BISHOP OF LOS BANOS OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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6. BISHOP PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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7. BISHOP UNITED ORTHODOX APOSTOLIC EASTERN CHURCH, INC.<br />
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8. CONGREGATION OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSIONARIES INC. <br />
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9. DIOCESAN BISHOP OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CANONICAL DIOCESE OF THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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10. DIVINE ORTHODOX CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC.<br />
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11. FAR EAST ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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12. GOVERNING HIERARCH OF THE ASIAN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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13. HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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14. KATHOLIKOS ARCHIEREUS OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH ORD. IN PHILS. <br />
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15. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH OF AMERICAS & ASIA INC. <br />
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16. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION INCORPORATED <br />
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17. ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES, INC. <br />
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18. PHIL. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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19. PHIL. PATRIARCH OF THE HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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20. PRESIDING PRESBYTER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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21. PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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22. SAN AGUSTIN III (DASMARINAS CAVITE) RESIDENTS & MEMBERS OF INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. <br />
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23. SOVEREIGN ORDER OF THE ORTHODOX HOSPITALLERS OF ST. JOHN.<br />
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24. ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH, INC. <br />
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25. UNITED ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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26. WESTERN AND EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH MISSIONARIES SOCIETY INC. <br />
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27. WESTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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'''Source''': The Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission<br />
[http://www.sec.gov.ph/]<br />
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There are other unregistered clandestine and cultic "churches" claiming to be orthodox which are not included in the above list. <br />
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Father, since you find the language "pretty strong" please provide a more appropriate alternative. Thank you very much. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 21:27, June 7, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Filipino - it's very interesting, if not helpful, to see all of those groups. Perhaps strong language is appropriate, but maybe they are not all clandestine or cultic according to your definitions? Definitely they breed confusion, and it can be good to identify groups to avoid. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::Dear Father John I already removed the "strong language". Thank you for your unbiased insight and kind remarks.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 10:24, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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If they are clandestine as you say "Filipino, then why are they listed with the Philippine Exchange Commission, have been recognized as religious entities by the Philippine government, and some of these groups are members of the National Council of Churches in the Philippines. Please stop politicizing this entry. ---Marcus<br />
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:The term "clandestine" has been removed. The groups are what they are - it isn't really of concern to us here. Marcus, can you provide any solid documentation related to the arrival of the Lebanese families you metioned in the 1800's? Thanks, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Antiochians in the Philippines ==<br />
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It appears that there is some polemic here, with Marcus representing the Antiochian side and Filipino representing the Greek side. Both have provided different histories of the origins of Orthodoxy in the Philippines, which each seem to bolster jurisdictional claims.<br />
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It's difficult for me to imagine that Antiochians aren't in communion with Greeks -- is this really the case? Was the deacon merely representing himself, or was he sent by his bishop?<br />
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I can definitely see the canonical problems here, though. It may be helpful to keep in mind that these canonical issues persist throughout the "diaspora" - hence the historical interest in claiming first landing in the country. There is no doubt that these conflicts will remain with us for some time. My hope is that on the wiki we can seek to describe the situation as completely and dispassionately as possible, with attention to the historical circumstance and competing canonical claims. We are definitely biased towards the what we call "Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy", i.e. those churches in communion with the ancient patriarchates (with the exception of Rome), but I would prefer to remain as neutral as possible in the midst of inter-jurisdictional disputes such as this. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 10:45, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand or any Orthdox Church. His views do not represent the views of any canonical bishop in Australia --Marcus<br />
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: I reverted the article to the previus revision as of 17:37, June 8, 2007 by Fr. John. Marcus, please justify your act of deleting the reference to the first reception of Filipino Orthodox Christians in the Philippines and for removing the links to the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines. Likewise, Marcus, please cite your sources and historical documents to support your claim about the Lebanese and Syrian Christians in the Philippines. If you can provide evidence and documentation for this then reference to Lebanese and Syrian Christians as the "first" Orthodox Christians in the Philippines should be included in the article.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 20:31, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:Would you want the family names? The Syrian and Lebanese Consulates in Manila confirmed that after the opening of foreign trade, a number of Ottoman subjects from the Greater Syria province arrived in the Philippines including the Sa-id and Saliba (which became Filipino-nized into "Soliba") families. The Sa-id family has the records to show that their ancestors worked on British ships in the Philippines. <br />
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Furthermore, I deleted the references because it is too politicized and shows blind papal-cesaerism, not to mention its highly inaccurate and anti-Arab. The Greek Orthodox Church in the Philippines can not call itself ''the'' Orthodox Church of the Philippines because it is not legally entitled to do so, check the SEC registration again. Nor does it have the canonical or moral authority to do so. According to the 1, 2, 3 Ecumenical Councils, Antioch is entitled to the jurisdictional territory of the "East" which means all of Asia and for this reason Antioch had parishes in China, Indonesia, and India as early as the 2nd century in the year of our Lord. It is also known that the Patriarchate of Moscow still considers the Philippines its missionary area because of its early presence here and also a major concern has arisen with the stories coming out of Indonesia about the Greek Orthodox Church and how 3/4 of the Indonesian Orthodox Christians are now under the omphorion of the ROCOR. <br />
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However, all God-fearing Russian and Antiochian Orthodox in Australia share a general sorrow for what has happened in SE Asia after stories from Indonesia have emerged.<br />
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Also if you would have taken the time to examine the SEC registration, you would have noticed that the registration of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines was a gift from Chris Gain to Patriarch Ignatius IV of (the City of God of) Antioch and All the East. That is why Chris Gain is mentioned in the paperwork. The Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese has nothing to do with gifts to the patriarchate and they would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning them in the article without their authorization. I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas. The Antiochian Archdiocese was as uninformed as was the Greek Metropolitanate of Hong Kong about this gift. <br />
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May God grant you guidance and wisdom to refrain from attacking the ancient See of Antioch and for showing more discernment in your writing about Orthodoxy in the Philippines.<br />
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--Marcus<br />
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:It seems to me that we should keep the reference in to the Lebenese families. Not sure why it is so contentious. Certainly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from someplace arrived here first" argument. It's an interesting historical tidbit, anyway. <br />
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:About the other matters, I kindly request that you both refrain from personal attacks and from attributing bad motives to one another, at least here. These are difficult issues, and it's a difficult time in church history (can't think of one that wasn't...). Ultimately, the bishops must work these things out. Honestly, I think that all of these "it's my territory" claims are doomed to failure in the so-called diaspora. The world has changed - increased mobility of peoples and other forces of globalization means that traditionally Orthodox peoples, each with their own histories, find themselves in far corners of the earth. Naturally, they bring their heritage -- and their hierarchy -- with them when there is no established and deeply rooted Orthodox church body in the region. The various jurisdictions will simply have to learn to live with each other under these new circumstances, observing and preserving carefully the bonds of communion which tie us together. I am sympathetic with the desire for canonical order that I see reflected in Filipino's statements, as well as the desire for an authentically indigenous Orthodoxy I see in Marcus' comments. It seems to me that these issues won't be really worked out unless there is a functioning primacy according to Orthodox canonical tradition, that bears the interests of the whole deeply in its heart. We may all dream of such a day, but it doesn't appear that this will happen anytime soon.<br />
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:I want to emphasize once again that the role of OrthodoxWiki is not to take a side in these debates, but to honestly reflect the situation as clearly as possibly, avoiding gossip, speculation, and slander. The articles should reflect ''who'' says ''what'', ''where'', ''when'' and (to the degree it can be ascertained) ''why''. This may not solve anything -- but that's not the purpose here. I hope this approach will be of service to people trying to figure these things out on all sides. <br />
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:May God bless us and have mercy on all of His struggling children! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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:: Dear Father John, I totally agree with you. Truly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from some place arrived here first" argument. Sadly, it is a well known fact that those who deny the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the diaspora are mostly those who belong from the uncanonical group of eastern orthodoxy. Again, thank you very much for your valuable insight. Marcus, can you tell us more about the "Orthodox Church in the Philippines" which is registered at the Philippine SEC as the "'''Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas'''". Its website does not indicate any address in the Philippines and abroad. Is it under the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch? In the year 2007 Antiochian Archbishop's Report Fr. Deacon Chris Gain's name is listed as one of the Deacons under the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia (pls. see [http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/615/22/ Archbishop's Report.])His name is also listed at number 14 under "Clergy no longer with the Archdiocese". You wrote that "Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand '''or any Orthdox Church'''" but the February 06, 2007 ([http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/602/0/ Antiochian Archdiocese News.])wrote: "With the written blessing of Metropolitan Archbishop Paul, Father Deacon Christopher was released from the Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand this day '''to assist the Patriarchate located in Damascus, Syria'''." But you said Chris Gain is not a deacon in "any other Orthodox Church". And why did you refer to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain simply as "Chris Gain"? I hope you can shed more light on this. Thank you. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 04:09, June 9, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Deleted Reference to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain and his church==<br />
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Marcus, could you please justify the reason why edited your previous post and deleted reference to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain? Let me quote here the deleted portion (emphasis and italics mine):<br />
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"Also if you would have taken the time to examine the SEC registration since you specifically mention it, you would have noticed that '''the registration of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines was a gift from Chris Gain to Patriarch Ignatius IV of (the City of God of) Antioch and All the East'''. That is why '''Chris Gain''' is mentioned in the paperwork. The Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese has nothing to do with gifts to the patriarchate and they would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning them in the article without their authorization. ''I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania '''has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas'''.'' The Antiochian Archdiocese was as '''uninformed''' as was the Greek Metropolitanate of Hong Kong about this gift and the Archdiocese only found out about this recently." -Marcus -(Pls see: [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52668&oldid=52663 Talk Page Revisions])<br />
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I guess the reason for your deletion is that you just made this all up (except of course for the fact that the the Metropolitan in Hong Kong and the local Orthodox Clergy in the Philippines were '''not informed''' by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain when he "clandestinely" registered his ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas"'' or Orthodox Church of the Philippines at the Philippine SEC in Manila last December 2006. I used the strong word "clandestinely registered" because of the fact that Fr. Deacon Chris Gain did not inform anyone at the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong including the local Filipino Orthodox clergy in the Philippines as you yourself affirmed. You also alleged that the Antiochian Archdiocese in Australia was also "'''uninformed'''" and worse, the Antiochian Archbishop "only found out about this recently", hence, if this allegation of yours is true, this only serves to confirm without any reason of a doubt the '''clandestine''' manner by which Fr. Deacon Chris Gain registered and established this ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas".'' As for the questionable canonicity of this clandestinely established church, the ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas",'' this is clearly demonstrated based on your revelations.<br />
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Everyone should also know Fr. Deacon Chris and his Filipino contacts in the Philippines also clandestinely registered the "'''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC'''. " in the Philippine SEC last December 2006 (pls. see [http://iregister.sec.gov.ph/MainServlet Philippine Securities and Echange Commission.]). Now my question Marcus, was His Beatitude Ignatius IV Patriarch of Antioch informed beforehand by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain and by the Antiochian Archbishop of Australia of the registration of the '''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC ''' or was he also '''"uninformed"'''? If the Patriarch of Antioch himself was '''uninformed''' so who gave Fr. Deacon Chris Gain authorization and blessing to register and establish the "'''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC'''. " and the "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas"? Now the doubtful and questionable canonicity of both entities becomes more apparent because of your revelations here at Wikipedia Talk Page. Our readers should thank you for these information.<br />
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Surprisingly, you even strongly declared that the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese in Australia has nothing to do, not only with these questionable entities but also with its founder when you wrote: '''I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of <br />
Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas'''. - Marcus <br />
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You have a lot of explaining to do Marcus. So why did you deleted all these information in your previous post? Was it because they are merely allegations based on speculations? Or you just made it all up? I have reasons to believe that it could be both. Please answer also my questions about the ''Iglesia Orthodoxa sa Pilipinas'' in my previous post. I would also advice you to be extra careful with what you post here in Wikepedia. I observed that many of them are purely speculations and mostly allegations or totally unsupported claims (please review my first edits in the Orthodoxy in the Philippines article you wrote). Thank you. --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 03:34, June 10, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Dear Filipino,<br />
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As stated before by Father John, you should refrain from personal attacks. This Orthodox wikipedia is not the forum to discuss matters that you raised. Furthermore, I also would remind you that Antioch and Istanbul are two separate independent churches and you are under the spiritual jurisdiction of Constantinople. Therefore, you as a layman and as someone from outside of the Antiochian jurisdiction, should also refrain from commenting on internal matters and problems with the Antiochian church and making such lamentable comments on Orthodox wikipedia because that is not the proper forum to do so. If Constantinople is concerned about this matter with "Iglesia Orthodoxa..." then its canonical hierarchs should write to the canonical hierarchs of Antioch. This is not a lay concern and I stand by what I have already stated. I do not need to elaborate anything more because we are not even in the same jurisdiction and for me to state anything further would be gossip. I will not engage in gossip and once again I am not the spokesperson for the Archdiocese. <br />
It is very unbecoming of Orthodox Christians to attack other Orthodox Christians in this type of forum. <br />
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--Marcus<br />
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==Deleting the Divulged Schemes==<br />
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Marcus, any reader of this "Orthodoxy in the Philippines Talk Page" can see and review what Antiochian secrets that you have divulged by simply looking at the "history" [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&action=history] which records the past versions of this page. This is the reason why I adviced you to be extra careful with what you post here. It is too late, even if you try to delete them over and over again the uncanonical schemes of the Antiochian Orthodox Church in the Philippines registered by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain at the Philippine SEC as "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" in December 2006 is recorded here. <br />
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Marcus, if there is somebody who should refrain from "personal attacks", making "lamentable comments" and spreading maliscious gossip and accusations etc., that person should be you. Let me remind you of the several "attacks", gossips and accusations you have written so far in the Discussion and Talk Page:<br />
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"The Greek Orthodox Church in the Philippines can not call itself the Orthodox Church of the Philippines because '''it is not legally entitled to do so''', check the SEC registration again. '''Nor does it have the canonical or moral authority to do so'''." - Marcus (pls see also [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52668&oldid=52663])<br />
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""However, many Orthodox Christians in Australia have been hearing more stories about '''the plight of Indonesian Orthodox Christians--who suffered greatly''' and are now being cared for under ROCOR--and are sensitive to issues of race, colonialism, and '''the recent uncanonical actions taken by Constantinople in Great Britain'''. In addition, there have been '''complaints made by certain non-Russian slavs in Manila''' about the lack of sacramental services to certain hierarchs. So there is considerable pressure to establish other jurisdictions in the Philippines and it is likely in the near future, the Filipinos and other nationalities will have more options and more access to Orthodoxy than the '''type of Helenic Orthodoxy that is in Manila.''' " -Marcus (pls see also [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&oldid=52663])<br />
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"Rev. Father John, Bless me, Father. I'm replying to some comments you have made in the wikipedia. You've stumbled upon an interjurisdictional dispute between three churches and whether or not the local Filipino Orthodox are actually Orthodox. Without getting into detail, ''the unofficial position of Moscow, ROCOR, and Antioch is that'' '''a majority of the ones converted into Orthodoxy in the Philippines were paid to. They continue to get paid to go to church.''' We also support Orthodoxy in the Philippines being lead by Filipinos. The Greek Orthodox Church is lead not by the Filipino priests but by a Greek married priest from Thessaloniki and the parish council is dominated by a Greek-American, Milton Adamson, which is why his name is mentioned everywhere. this is the same situation that occurred in Indonesia until the majority of Indonesians joined ROCOR in 2005. '''In another age, that church would be called a tool of colonialism. However, the Greeks prefer to call it Helenism.''' In Christ, '''Marcus''' (See also [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&oldid=52651])<br />
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You see Marcus, everything you said against me bounced back to you. Yes, you can say anything you want against the Greek Orthodox Church and the Filipinos who are under its jurisdiction but who will believe you? Now you are trying to avoid the subject about the Antiochian Orthodox Church in the Philippines all together by deleting over and over again your previous declarations. Anyway, thanks for divulging the clandestine and uncanonical scheme of the Antiochian jurisdiction in the Philippines. These are all recorded here for everyone to see. We really learned a lot from you. I do hope the Antiochian Orthodox Church in the Philippines or the "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" will not suffer the same fate as that of the short-lived (barely months old when it was disbanded) Saint Peter and Paul Antiochian Orthodox Mission in the Philippines in 2005. --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 11:08, June 11, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52726Talk:Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-11T18:08:14Z<p>Filipino: Deleted portions restored</p>
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<div>=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
This language is pretty strong -- maybe it would be helpful to have more identification here -- what are these groups like, what are they called? "Clandestine and cultic" should have some documentation to fill it out, otherwise this language is just regarded as personal opinion. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
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Dear Father John,<br />
The online dictionary defined the word '''clandestine''' as "'''existing or operating in a way so as to ensure complete concealment and confidentiality'''" ([http://www.answers.com/topic/clandestine]). The American Heritage Dictionary defined the word '''cult''' as "a religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or '''false''', with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. Listed below are registered churches in the Philippines claiming to be "Orthodox". No other information can be obtained from the internet except the name of their church. I have talked with some members and clergymen of these "orthodox" groups years back while I was searchin for the true Orthodox Church and I found out that they professed the Hindu, Buddhist and "New Age" doctrine of Karma and '''Reincarnation'''. They also believed in "mediums" (i.e., Christ, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Theotokos, the Child Jesus etc. possesing their spiritual leaders (priests and bishops) thereby receiving from them the power to heal, prophesy etc.).<br />
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1. ARCHBISHOP ISAAC NEE DANIEL L. GOROSPE EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, INC. <br />
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2. ARCHBISHOP JAMES NEE LEON C. CACHERO JR. INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, INC. <br />
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3. ARCHBISHOP PATRIARCH ABRAHAM JOHN PAUL I NEE ARTEMIO FRANCISCO. <br />
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4. PAULINO CANETE-PINERO D.D. OF THE ORTHODOX MISSIONARY FATHERS. <br />
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5. BISHOP OF LOS BANOS OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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6. BISHOP PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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7. BISHOP UNITED ORTHODOX APOSTOLIC EASTERN CHURCH, INC.<br />
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8. CONGREGATION OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSIONARIES INC. <br />
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9. DIOCESAN BISHOP OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CANONICAL DIOCESE OF THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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10. DIVINE ORTHODOX CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC.<br />
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11. FAR EAST ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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12. GOVERNING HIERARCH OF THE ASIAN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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13. HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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14. KATHOLIKOS ARCHIEREUS OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH ORD. IN PHILS. <br />
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15. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH OF AMERICAS & ASIA INC. <br />
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16. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION INCORPORATED <br />
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17. ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES, INC. <br />
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18. PHIL. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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19. PHIL. PATRIARCH OF THE HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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20. PRESIDING PRESBYTER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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21. PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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22. SAN AGUSTIN III (DASMARINAS CAVITE) RESIDENTS & MEMBERS OF INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. <br />
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23. SOVEREIGN ORDER OF THE ORTHODOX HOSPITALLERS OF ST. JOHN.<br />
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24. ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH, INC. <br />
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25. UNITED ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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26. WESTERN AND EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH MISSIONARIES SOCIETY INC. <br />
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27. WESTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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'''Source''': The Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission<br />
[http://www.sec.gov.ph/]<br />
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There are other unregistered clandestine and cultic "churches" claiming to be orthodox which are not included in the above list. <br />
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Father, since you find the language "pretty strong" please provide a more appropriate alternative. Thank you very much. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 21:27, June 7, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Filipino - it's very interesting, if not helpful, to see all of those groups. Perhaps strong language is appropriate, but maybe they are not all clandestine or cultic according to your definitions? Definitely they breed confusion, and it can be good to identify groups to avoid. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::Dear Father John I already removed the "strong language". Thank you for your unbiased insight and kind remarks.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 10:24, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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If they are clandestine as you say "Filipino, then why are they listed with the Philippine Exchange Commission, have been recognized as religious entities by the Philippine government, and some of these groups are members of the National Council of Churches in the Philippines. Please stop politicizing this entry. ---Marcus<br />
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:The term "clandestine" has been removed. The groups are what they are - it isn't really of concern to us here. Marcus, can you provide any solid documentation related to the arrival of the Lebanese families you metioned in the 1800's? Thanks, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Antiochians in the Philippines ==<br />
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It appears that there is some polemic here, with Marcus representing the Antiochian side and Filipino representing the Greek side. Both have provided different histories of the origins of Orthodoxy in the Philippines, which each seem to bolster jurisdictional claims.<br />
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It's difficult for me to imagine that Antiochians aren't in communion with Greeks -- is this really the case? Was the deacon merely representing himself, or was he sent by his bishop?<br />
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I can definitely see the canonical problems here, though. It may be helpful to keep in mind that these canonical issues persist throughout the "diaspora" - hence the historical interest in claiming first landing in the country. There is no doubt that these conflicts will remain with us for some time. My hope is that on the wiki we can seek to describe the situation as completely and dispassionately as possible, with attention to the historical circumstance and competing canonical claims. We are definitely biased towards the what we call "Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy", i.e. those churches in communion with the ancient patriarchates (with the exception of Rome), but I would prefer to remain as neutral as possible in the midst of inter-jurisdictional disputes such as this. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 10:45, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand or any Orthdox Church. His views do not represent the views of any canonical bishop in Australia --Marcus<br />
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: I reverted the article to the previus revision as of 17:37, June 8, 2007 by Fr. John. Marcus, please justify your act of deleting the reference to the first reception of Filipino Orthodox Christians in the Philippines and for removing the links to the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines. Likewise, Marcus, please cite your sources and historical documents to support your claim about the Lebanese and Syrian Christians in the Philippines. If you can provide evidence and documentation for this then reference to Lebanese and Syrian Christians as the "first" Orthodox Christians in the Philippines should be included in the article.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 20:31, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:Would you want the family names? The Syrian and Lebanese Consulates in Manila confirmed that after the opening of foreign trade, a number of Ottoman subjects from the Greater Syria province arrived in the Philippines including the Sa-id and Saliba (which became Filipino-nized into "Soliba") families. The Sa-id family has the records to show that their ancestors worked on British ships in the Philippines. <br />
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Furthermore, I deleted the references because it is too politicized and shows blind papal-cesaerism, not to mention its highly inaccurate and anti-Arab. The Greek Orthodox Church in the Philippines can not call itself ''the'' Orthodox Church of the Philippines because it is not legally entitled to do so, check the SEC registration again. Nor does it have the canonical or moral authority to do so. According to the 1, 2, 3 Ecumenical Councils, Antioch is entitled to the jurisdictional territory of the "East" which means all of Asia and for this reason Antioch had parishes in China, Indonesia, and India as early as the 2nd century in the year of our Lord. It is also known that the Patriarchate of Moscow still considers the Philippines its missionary area because of its early presence here and also a major concern has arisen with the stories coming out of Indonesia about the Greek Orthodox Church and how 3/4 of the Indonesian Orthodox Christians are now under the omphorion of the ROCOR. <br />
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However, all God-fearing Russian and Antiochian Orthodox in Australia share a general sorrow for what has happened in SE Asia after stories from Indonesia have emerged.<br />
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Also if you would have taken the time to examine the SEC registration, you would have noticed that the registration of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines was a gift from Chris Gain to Patriarch Ignatius IV of (the City of God of) Antioch and All the East. That is why Chris Gain is mentioned in the paperwork. The Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese has nothing to do with gifts to the patriarchate and they would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning them in the article without their authorization. I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas. The Antiochian Archdiocese was as uninformed as was the Greek Metropolitanate of Hong Kong about this gift. <br />
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May God grant you guidance and wisdom to refrain from attacking the ancient See of Antioch and for showing more discernment in your writing about Orthodoxy in the Philippines.<br />
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--Marcus<br />
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:It seems to me that we should keep the reference in to the Lebenese families. Not sure why it is so contentious. Certainly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from someplace arrived here first" argument. It's an interesting historical tidbit, anyway. <br />
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:About the other matters, I kindly request that you both refrain from personal attacks and from attributing bad motives to one another, at least here. These are difficult issues, and it's a difficult time in church history (can't think of one that wasn't...). Ultimately, the bishops must work these things out. Honestly, I think that all of these "it's my territory" claims are doomed to failure in the so-called diaspora. The world has changed - increased mobility of peoples and other forces of globalization means that traditionally Orthodox peoples, each with their own histories, find themselves in far corners of the earth. Naturally, they bring their heritage -- and their hierarchy -- with them when there is no established and deeply rooted Orthodox church body in the region. The various jurisdictions will simply have to learn to live with each other under these new circumstances, observing and preserving carefully the bonds of communion which tie us together. I am sympathetic with the desire for canonical order that I see reflected in Filipino's statements, as well as the desire for an authentically indigenous Orthodoxy I see in Marcus' comments. It seems to me that these issues won't be really worked out unless there is a functioning primacy according to Orthodox canonical tradition, that bears the interests of the whole deeply in its heart. We may all dream of such a day, but it doesn't appear that this will happen anytime soon.<br />
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:I want to emphasize once again that the role of OrthodoxWiki is not to take a side in these debates, but to honestly reflect the situation as clearly as possibly, avoiding gossip, speculation, and slander. The articles should reflect ''who'' says ''what'', ''where'', ''when'' and (to the degree it can be ascertained) ''why''. This may not solve anything -- but that's not the purpose here. I hope this approach will be of service to people trying to figure these things out on all sides. <br />
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:May God bless us and have mercy on all of His struggling children! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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:: Dear Father John, I totally agree with you. Truly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from some place arrived here first" argument. Sadly, it is a well known fact that those who deny the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the diaspora are mostly those who belong from the uncanonical group of eastern orthodoxy. Again, thank you very much for your valuable insight. Marcus, can you tell us more about the "Orthodox Church in the Philippines" which is registered at the Philippine SEC as the "'''Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas'''". Its website does not indicate any address in the Philippines and abroad. Is it under the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch? In the year 2007 Antiochian Archbishop's Report Fr. Deacon Chris Gain's name is listed as one of the Deacons under the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia (pls. see [http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/615/22/ Archbishop's Report.])His name is also listed at number 14 under "Clergy no longer with the Archdiocese". You wrote that "Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand '''or any Orthdox Church'''" but the February 06, 2007 ([http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/602/0/ Antiochian Archdiocese News.])wrote: "With the written blessing of Metropolitan Archbishop Paul, Father Deacon Christopher was released from the Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand this day '''to assist the Patriarchate located in Damascus, Syria'''." But you said Chris Gain is not a deacon in "any other Orthodox Church". And why did you refer to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain simply as "Chris Gain"? I hope you can shed more light on this. Thank you. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 04:09, June 9, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Deleted Reference to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain and his church==<br />
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Marcus, could you please justify the reason why edited your previous post and deleted reference to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain? Let me quote here the deleted portion (emphasis and italics mine):<br />
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"Also if you would have taken the time to examine the SEC registration since you specifically mention it, you would have noticed that '''the registration of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines was a gift from Chris Gain to Patriarch Ignatius IV of (the City of God of) Antioch and All the East'''. That is why '''Chris Gain''' is mentioned in the paperwork. The Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese has nothing to do with gifts to the patriarchate and they would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning them in the article without their authorization. ''I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania '''has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas'''.'' The Antiochian Archdiocese was as '''uninformed''' as was the Greek Metropolitanate of Hong Kong about this gift and the Archdiocese only found out about this recently." -Marcus -(Pls see: [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52668&oldid=52663 Talk Page Revisions])<br />
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I guess the reason for your deletion is that you just made this all up (except of course for the fact that the the Metropolitan in Hong Kong and the local Orthodox Clergy in the Philippines were '''not informed''' by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain when he "clandestinely" registered his ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas"'' or Orthodox Church of the Philippines at the Philippine SEC in Manila last December 2006. I used the strong word "clandestinely registered" because of the fact that Fr. Deacon Chris Gain did not inform anyone at the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong including the local Filipino Orthodox clergy in the Philippines as you yourself affirmed. You also alleged that the Antiochian Archdiocese in Australia was also "'''uninformed'''" and worse, the Antiochian Archbishop "only found out about this recently", hence, if this allegation of yours is true, this only serves to confirm without any reason of a doubt the '''clandestine''' manner by which Fr. Deacon Chris Gain registered and established this ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas".'' As for the questionable canonicity of this clandestinely established church, the ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas",'' this is clearly demonstrated based on your revelations.<br />
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Everyone should also know Fr. Deacon Chris and his Filipino contacts in the Philippines also clandestinely registered the "'''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC'''. " in the Philippine SEC last December 2006 (pls. see [http://iregister.sec.gov.ph/MainServlet Philippine Securities and Echange Commission.]). Now my question Marcus, was His Beatitude Ignatius IV Patriarch of Antioch informed beforehand by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain and by the Antiochian Archbishop of Australia of the registration of the '''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC ''' or was he also '''"uninformed"'''? If the Patriarch of Antioch himself was '''uninformed''' so who gave Fr. Deacon Chris Gain authorization and blessing to register and establish the "'''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC'''. " and the "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas"? Now the doubtful and questionable canonicity of both entities becomes more apparent because of your revelations here at Wikipedia Talk Page. Our readers should thank you for these information.<br />
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Surprisingly, you even strongly declared that the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese in Australia has nothing to do, not only with these questionable entities but also with its founder when you wrote: '''I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of <br />
Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas'''. - Marcus <br />
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You have a lot of explaining to do Marcus. So why did you deleted all these information in your previous post? Was it because they are merely allegations based on speculations? Or you just made it all up? I have reasons to believe that it could be both. Please answer also my questions about the ''Iglesia Orthodoxa sa Pilipinas'' in my previous post. I would also advice you to be extra careful with what you post here in Wikepedia. I observed that many of them are purely speculations and mostly allegations or totally unsupported claims (please review my first edits in the Orthodoxy in the Philippines article you wrote). Thank you. --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 03:34, June 10, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Dear Filipino,<br />
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As stated before by Father John, you should refrain from personal attacks. This Orthodox wikipedia is not the forum to discuss matters that you raised. Furthermore, I also would remind you that Antioch and Istanbul are two separate independent churches and you are under the spiritual jurisdiction of Constantinople. Therefore, you as a layman and as someone from outside of the Antiochian jurisdiction, should also refrain from commenting on internal matters and problems with the Antiochian church and making such lamentable comments on Orthodox wikipedia because that is not the proper forum to do so. If Constantinople is concerned about this matter with "Iglesia Orthodoxa..." then its canonical hierarchs should write to the canonical hierarchs of Antioch. This is not a lay concern and I stand by what I have already stated. I do not need to elaborate anything more because we are not even in the same jurisdiction and for me to state anything further would be gossip. I will not engage in gossip and once again I am not the spokesperson for the Archdiocese. <br />
It is very unbecoming of Orthodox Christians to attack other Orthodox Christians in this type of forum. <br />
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--Marcus<br />
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==Deleting the Divulged Schemes==<br />
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Marcus, any reader of this "Orthodoxy in the Philippines Talk Page" can see and review what Antiochian secrets that you have divulged by simply looking at the "history" [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&action=history] which records the past versions of this page. This is the reason why I adviced you to be extra careful with what you post here. It is too late, even if you try to delete them over and over again the uncanonical schemes of the Antiochian Orthodox Church in the Philippines registered by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain at the Philippine SEC as "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" in December 2006 is recorded here. <br />
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Marcus, if there is somebody who should refrain from "personal attacks", making "lamentable comments" and spreading maliscious gossip and accusations etc., that person should be you. Let me remind you of the several "attacks", gossips and accusations you have written so far in the Discussion and Talk Page:<br />
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"The Greek Orthodox Church in the Philippines can not call itself the Orthodox Church of the Philippines because '''it is not legally entitled to do so''', check the SEC registration again. '''Nor does it have the canonical or moral authority to do so'''." - Marcus (pls see also [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52668&oldid=52663])<br />
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""However, many Orthodox Christians in Australia have been hearing more stories about '''the plight of Indonesian Orthodox Christians--who suffered greatly''' and are now being cared for under ROCOR--and are sensitive to issues of race, colonialism, and '''the recent uncanonical actions taken by Constantinople in Great Britain'''. In addition, there have been '''complaints made by certain non-Russian slavs in Manila''' about the lack of sacramental services to certain hierarchs. So there is considerable pressure to establish other jurisdictions in the Philippines and it is likely in the near future, the Filipinos and other nationalities will have more options and more access to Orthodoxy than the '''type of Helenic Orthodoxy that is in Manila.''' " -Marcus (pls see also [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&oldid=52663])<br />
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"Rev. Father John, Bless me, Father. I'm replying to some comments you have made in the wikipedia. You've stumbled upon an interjurisdictional dispute between three churches and whether or not the local Filipino Orthodox are actually Orthodox. Without getting into detail, ''the unofficial position of Moscow, ROCOR, and Antioch is that'' '''a majority of the ones converted into Orthodoxy in the Philippines were paid to. They continue to get paid to go to church.''' We also support Orthodoxy in the Philippines being lead by Filipinos. The Greek Orthodox Church is lead not by the Filipino priests but by a Greek married priest from Thessaloniki and the parish council is dominated by a Greek-American, Milton Adamson, which is why his name is mentioned everywhere. this is the same situation that occurred in Indonesia until the majority of Indonesians joined ROCOR in 2005. '''In another age, that church would be called a tool of colonialism. However, the Greeks prefer to call it Helenism.''' In Christ, '''Marcus''' (See also [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:FrJohn&oldid=52651])<br />
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You see Marcus, everything you said against me bounced back to you. Yes, you can say anything you want against the Greek Orthodox Church and the Filipinos who are under its jurisdiction but who will believe you? Now you are trying to avoid the subject about the Antiochian Orthodox Church in the Philippines all together by deleting over and over again your previous declarations. Anyway, thanks for divulging the clandestine and uncanonical scheme of the Antiochian jurisdiction in the Philippines. These are all recorded here for everyone to see. We really learned a lot from you. I do hope the Antiochian Orthodox Church in the Philippines or the "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" will not suffer the same fate as that of the short-lived (barely months old when it was disbanded) Saint Peter and Paul Antiochian Orthodox Mission in the Philippines in 2005. --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 11:08, June 11, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52685Talk:Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-10T10:34:25Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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<div>=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
This language is pretty strong -- maybe it would be helpful to have more identification here -- what are these groups like, what are they called? "Clandestine and cultic" should have some documentation to fill it out, otherwise this language is just regarded as personal opinion. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
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Dear Father John,<br />
The online dictionary defined the word '''clandestine''' as "'''existing or operating in a way so as to ensure complete concealment and confidentiality'''" ([http://www.answers.com/topic/clandestine]). The American Heritage Dictionary defined the word '''cult''' as "a religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or '''false''', with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. Listed below are registered churches in the Philippines claiming to be "Orthodox". No other information can be obtained from the internet except the name of their church. I have talked with some members and clergymen of these "orthodox" groups years back while I was searchin for the true Orthodox Church and I found out that they professed the Hindu, Buddhist and "New Age" doctrine of Karma and '''Reincarnation'''. They also believed in "mediums" (i.e., Christ, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Theotokos, the Child Jesus etc. possesing their spiritual leaders (priests and bishops) thereby receiving from them the power to heal, prophesy etc.).<br />
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1. ARCHBISHOP ISAAC NEE DANIEL L. GOROSPE EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, INC. <br />
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2. ARCHBISHOP JAMES NEE LEON C. CACHERO JR. INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, INC. <br />
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3. ARCHBISHOP PATRIARCH ABRAHAM JOHN PAUL I NEE ARTEMIO FRANCISCO. <br />
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4. PAULINO CANETE-PINERO D.D. OF THE ORTHODOX MISSIONARY FATHERS. <br />
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5. BISHOP OF LOS BANOS OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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6. BISHOP PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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7. BISHOP UNITED ORTHODOX APOSTOLIC EASTERN CHURCH, INC.<br />
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8. CONGREGATION OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSIONARIES INC. <br />
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9. DIOCESAN BISHOP OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CANONICAL DIOCESE OF THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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10. DIVINE ORTHODOX CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC.<br />
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11. FAR EAST ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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12. GOVERNING HIERARCH OF THE ASIAN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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13. HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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14. KATHOLIKOS ARCHIEREUS OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH ORD. IN PHILS. <br />
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15. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH OF AMERICAS & ASIA INC. <br />
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16. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION INCORPORATED <br />
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17. ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES, INC. <br />
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18. PHIL. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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19. PHIL. PATRIARCH OF THE HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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20. PRESIDING PRESBYTER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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21. PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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22. SAN AGUSTIN III (DASMARINAS CAVITE) RESIDENTS & MEMBERS OF INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. <br />
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23. SOVEREIGN ORDER OF THE ORTHODOX HOSPITALLERS OF ST. JOHN.<br />
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24. ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH, INC. <br />
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25. UNITED ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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26. WESTERN AND EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH MISSIONARIES SOCIETY INC. <br />
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27. WESTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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'''Source''': The Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission<br />
[http://www.sec.gov.ph/]<br />
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There are other unregistered clandestine and cultic "churches" claiming to be orthodox which are not included in the above list. <br />
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Father, since you find the language "pretty strong" please provide a more appropriate alternative. Thank you very much. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 21:27, June 7, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Filipino - it's very interesting, if not helpful, to see all of those groups. Perhaps strong language is appropriate, but maybe they are not all clandestine or cultic according to your definitions? Definitely they breed confusion, and it can be good to identify groups to avoid. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::Dear Father John I already removed the "strong language". Thank you for your unbiased insight and kind remarks.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 10:24, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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If they are clandestine as you say "Filipino, then why are they listed with the Philippine Exchange Commission, have been recognized as religious entities by the Philippine government, and some of these groups are members of the National Council of Churches in the Philippines. Please stop politicizing this entry. ---Marcus<br />
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:The term "clandestine" has been removed. The groups are what they are - it isn't really of concern to us here. Marcus, can you provide any solid documentation related to the arrival of the Lebanese families you metioned in the 1800's? Thanks, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Antiochians in the Philippines ==<br />
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It appears that there is some polemic here, with Marcus representing the Antiochian side and Filipino representing the Greek side. Both have provided different histories of the origins of Orthodoxy in the Philippines, which each seem to bolster jurisdictional claims.<br />
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It's difficult for me to imagine that Antiochians aren't in communion with Greeks -- is this really the case? Was the deacon merely representing himself, or was he sent by his bishop?<br />
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I can definitely see the canonical problems here, though. It may be helpful to keep in mind that these canonical issues persist throughout the "diaspora" - hence the historical interest in claiming first landing in the country. There is no doubt that these conflicts will remain with us for some time. My hope is that on the wiki we can seek to describe the situation as completely and dispassionately as possible, with attention to the historical circumstance and competing canonical claims. We are definitely biased towards the what we call "Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy", i.e. those churches in communion with the ancient patriarchates (with the exception of Rome), but I would prefer to remain as neutral as possible in the midst of inter-jurisdictional disputes such as this. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 10:45, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand or any Orthdox Church. His views do not represent the views of any canonical bishop in Australia --Marcus<br />
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: I reverted the article to the previus revision as of 17:37, June 8, 2007 by Fr. John. Marcus, please justify your act of deleting the reference to the first reception of Filipino Orthodox Christians in the Philippines and for removing the links to the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines. Likewise, Marcus, please cite your sources and historical documents to support your claim about the Lebanese and Syrian Christians in the Philippines. If you can provide evidence and documentation for this then reference to Lebanese and Syrian Christians as the "first" Orthodox Christians in the Philippines should be included in the article.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 20:31, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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:It seems to me that we should keep the reference in to the Lebenese families. Not sure why it is so contentious. Certainly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from someplace arrived here first" argument. It's an interesting historical tidbit, anyway. <br />
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:About the other matters, I kindly request that you both refrain from personal attacks and from attributing bad motives to one another, at least here. These are difficult issues, and it's a difficult time in church history (can't think of one that wasn't...). Ultimately, the bishops must work these things out. Honestly, I think that all of these "it's my territory" claims are doomed to failure in the so-called diaspora. The world has changed - increased mobility of peoples and other forces of globalization means that traditionally Orthodox peoples, each with their own histories, find themselves in far corners of the earth. Naturally, they bring their heritage -- and their hierarchy -- with them when there is no established and deeply rooted Orthodox church body in the region. The various jurisdictions will simply have to learn to live with each other under these new circumstances, observing and preserving carefully the bonds of communion which tie us together. I am sympathetic with the desire for canonical order that I see reflected in Filipino's statements, as well as the desire for an authentically indigenous Orthodoxy I see in Marcus' comments. It seems to me that these issues won't be really worked out unless there is a functioning primacy according to Orthodox canonical tradition, that bears the interests of the whole deeply in its heart. We may all dream of such a day, but it doesn't appear that this will happen anytime soon.<br />
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:I want to emphasize once again that the role of OrthodoxWiki is not to take a side in these debates, but to honestly reflect the situation as clearly as possibly, avoiding gossip, speculation, and slander. The articles should reflect ''who'' says ''what'', ''where'', ''when'' and (to the degree it can be ascertained) ''why''. This may not solve anything -- but that's not the purpose here. I hope this approach will be of service to people trying to figure these things out on all sides. <br />
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:May God bless us and have mercy on all of His struggling children! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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:Dear Father John, I totally agree with you. Truly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from some place arrived here first" argument. Sadly, it is a well known fact that those who deny the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the diaspora are mostly those who belong from the uncanonical group of eastern orthodoxy. Again, thank you very much for your valuable insight. Marcus, can you tell us more about the "Orthodox Church in the Philippines" which is registered at the Philippine SEC as the "'''Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas'''". Its website does not indicate any address in the Philippines and abroad. Is it under the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch? In the year 2007 Antiochian Archbishop's Report Fr. Deacon Chris Gain's name is listed as one of the Deacons under the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia (pls. see [http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/615/22/ Archbishop's Report.])His name is also listed at number 14 under "Clergy no longer with the Archdiocese". You wrote that "Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand '''or any Orthdox Church'''" but the February 06, 2007 ([http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/602/0/ Antiochian Archdiocese News.])wrote: "With the written blessing of Metropolitan Archbishop Paul, Father Deacon Christopher was released from the Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand this day '''to assist the Patriarchate located in Damascus, Syria'''." But you said Chris Gain is not a deacon in "any other Orthodox Church". And why did you refer to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain simply as "Chris Gain"? I hope you can shed more light on this. Thank you. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 04:09, June 9, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Marcus, could you please justify the reason why edited your previous post and deleted reference to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain? Let me quote here the deleted portion (emphasis and italics mine):<br />
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"Also if you would have taken the time to examine the SEC registration since you specifically mention it, you would have noticed that '''the registration of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines was a gift from Chris Gain to Patriarch Ignatius IV of (the City of God of) Antioch and All the East'''. That is why '''Chris Gain''' is mentioned in the paperwork. The Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese has nothing to do with gifts to the patriarchate and they would appreciate it if you would stop mentioning them in the article without their authorization. ''I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania '''has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas'''.'' The Antiochian Archdiocese was as '''uninformed''' as was the Greek Metropolitanate of Hong Kong about this gift and the Archdiocese only found out about this recently." -Marcus -(Pls see: [http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52668&oldid=52663 Talk Page Revisions])<br />
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I guess the reason for your deletion is that you just made this all up (except of course for the fact that the the Metropolitan in Hong Kong and the local Orthodox Clergy in the Philippines were '''not informed''' by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain when he "clandestinely" registered his ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas"'' or Orthodox Church of the Philippines at the Philippine SEC in Manila last December 2006. I used the strong word "clandestinely registered" because of the fact that Fr. Deacon Chris Gain did not inform anyone at the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong including the local Filipino Orthodox clergy in the Philippines as you yourself affirmed. You also alleged that the Antiochian Archdiocese in Australia was also "'''uninformed'''" and worse, the Antiochian Archbishop "only found out about this recently", hence, if this allegation of yours is true, this only serves to confirm without any reason of a doubt the '''clandestine''' manner by which Fr. Deacon Chris Gain registered and established this ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas".'' As for the questionable canonicity of this clandestinely established church, the ''"Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas",'' this is clearly demonstrated based on your revelations.<br />
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Everyone should also know Fr. Deacon Chris and his Filipino contacts in the Philippines also clandestinely registered the "'''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC'''. " in the Philippine SEC last December 2006 (pls. see [http://iregister.sec.gov.ph/MainServlet Philippine Securities and Echange Commission.]). Now my question Marcus, was His Beatitude Ignatius IV Patriarch of Antioch informed beforehand by Fr. Deacon Chris Gain and by the Antiochian Archbishop of Australia of the registration of the '''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC ''' or was he also '''"uninformed"'''? If the Patriarch of Antioch himself was '''uninformed''' so who gave Fr. Deacon Chris Gain authorization and blessing to register and establish the "'''GREEK ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF ANTIOCH AND ALL THE EAST, INC'''. " and the "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas"? Now the doubtful and questionable canonicity of both entities becomes more apparent because of your revelations here at Wikipedia Talk Page. Our readers should thank you for these information.<br />
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Surprisingly, you even strongly declared that the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese in Australia has nothing to do, not only with these questionable entities but also with its founder when you wrote: '''I would like to repeat that the Antiochian Archdiocese of <br />
Australia, New Zealand, and All Oceania has had nothing to do with Chris Gain nor with his Iglesia Ortodoxa ng Pilipinas'''. - Marcus <br />
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You have a lot of explaining to do Marcus. So why did you deleted all these information in your previous post? Was it because they are merely allegations based on speculations? Or you just made it all up? I have reasons to believe that it could be both. Please answer also my questions about the ''Iglesia Orthodoxa sa Pilipinas'' in my previous post. I would also advice you to be extra careful with what you post here in Wikepedia. I observed that many of them are purely speculations and mostly allegations or totally unsupported claims (please review my first edits in the Orthodoxy in the Philippines article you wrote). Thank you. --[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 03:34, June 10, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Philemon_(Castro)&diff=52682Philemon (Castro)2007-06-10T04:24:16Z<p>Filipino: New page: Image:Archimadrite_philemon.JPG</p>
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The '''Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia''', headquartered in Hong Kong, is an [[eparchy]] of the [[Church of Constantinople]]. Its current [[bishop]] is His Eminence [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]], [[Metropolitan]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, which includes Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.<br />
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territory=Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan|<br />
language=English, Greek, other native languages|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]]|<br />
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*Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia has held this position from 1999-2007. He is currently serving as the director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute in Berkeley, California. The chancellor of the The Chancellor of the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia, Archimandrite Konstantinos Tsilis, is guiding the Metropolitanate in his absence, until he returns or another bishop is selected.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Daniel (Toyne)]] is the sole priest in Singapore.<br />
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* [http://www.geocities.com/orthodoxchurchsg Holy Resurrection Orthodox Church] in Singapore.<br />
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* [http://www.orthodox.com.tw/ Holy Trinity Orthodox Church] in Taiwan.<br />
* [http://flickr.com/photos/90309235@N00/116898662/in/set-72057594089294852/ Orthodox Christian Liturgy in Taipei, Pascha 2004]<br />
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* [http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines.] <br />
* [http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Cathedral]<br />
* [http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html/ Greeks in the Philippines & Their Contribution to the Country]<br />
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* [http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/church_history/byantoro_indonesia.htm Birth of Orthodoxy in Indonesia]<br />
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* [http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/indonesia.htm Indonesian Orthodox Mission under OMHKSEA]<br />
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* [http://www.friendsofindonesia.org/ Website for the Indonesian Orthodox Mission under ROCOR]<br />
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* [http://www.psoc-cal.org/ Philanthropic Society of the Orthodox Church - Calcutta].<br />
* [http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/history_india.html History of the Church in India].<br />
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The '''Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia''', headquartered in Hong Kong, is an [[eparchy]] of the [[Church of Constantinople]]. Its current [[bishop]] is His Eminence [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]], [[Metropolitan]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, which includes Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.<br />
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jurisdiction=[[Church of Constantinople|Constantinople]]|<br />
type=Metropolis|<br />
founded=1996|<br />
bishop=[[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Metr. Nikitas]]|<br />
see=Hong Kong|<br />
hq=Hong Kong|<br />
territory=Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan|<br />
language=English, Greek, other native languages|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]]|<br />
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population=''unknown''|<br />
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== The Episcopacy ==<br />
[[Image:Metr._Nikitas_of_Hong_Kong.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Metr. Nikitas]]<br />
*Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia has held this position from 1999-2007. He is currently serving as the director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute in Berkeley, California. The chancellor of the The Chancellor of the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia, Archimandrite Konstantinos Tsilis, is guiding the Metropolitanate in his absence, until he returns or another bishop is selected.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Daniel (Toyne)]] is the sole priest in Singapore.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Jonah (Mourtos)]] is the sole priest in Taiwan.<br />
*Vicar [[Nikitas (Mellios)]] is the senior active priest in the Philippines.<br />
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*Archimandrite [[Lazarus (Moore)]], missionary in India 1952-1972.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Vincentius (Escharcha)]], priest in the Philippines.<br />
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* [http://www.omhksea.org Official Website of the Metropolitanate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchate.org/ Official Website of the Orthodox Patriarchate of Constantinople]<br />
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====Exarchate of Singapore====<br />
* [http://www.geocities.com/orthodoxchurchsg Holy Resurrection Orthodox Church] in Singapore.<br />
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====Exarchate of Taiwan====<br />
* [http://www.orthodox.com.tw/ Holy Trinity Orthodox Church] in Taiwan.<br />
* [http://flickr.com/photos/90309235@N00/116898662/in/set-72057594089294852/ Orthodox Christian Liturgy in Taipei, Pascha 2004]<br />
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====Exarchate of the [[Orthodoxy in the Philippines|Philippines]]====<br />
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* [http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines.] <br />
* [http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Cathedral]<br />
* [http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html/ Greeks in the Philippines & Their Contribution to the Country]<br />
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====Exarchate of [[Orthodoxy in Indonesia|Indonesia]]====<br />
* [http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/church_history/byantoro_indonesia.htm Birth of Orthodoxy in Indonesia]<br />
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* [http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/indonesia.htm Indonesian Orthodox Mission under OMHKSEA]<br />
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* [http://www.friendsofindonesia.org/ Website for the Indonesian Orthodox Mission under ROCOR]<br />
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* [http://www.psoc-cal.org/ Philanthropic Society of the Orthodox Church - Calcutta].<br />
* [http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/history_india.html History of the Church in India].<br />
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The '''Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia''', headquartered in Hong Kong, is an [[eparchy]] of the [[Church of Constantinople]]. Its current [[bishop]] is His Eminence [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]], [[Metropolitan]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, which includes Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.<br />
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name=Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia|<br />
jurisdiction=[[Church of Constantinople|Constantinople]]|<br />
type=Metropolis|<br />
founded=1996|<br />
bishop=[[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Metr. Nikitas]]|<br />
see=Hong Kong|<br />
hq=Hong Kong|<br />
territory=Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan|<br />
language=English, Greek, other native languages|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]]|<br />
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The Archdiocese also includes 6 [[monasticism|monasteries]]. The largest male monastery is the Holy [[Monastery of Pantanassa (Mangrove, Australia)|Monastery of Pantanassa]] in New South Wales, and the largest female monastery is the Holy [[Monastery of Gorgoepikoos (Geelong, Australia)|Monastery of Gorgoepikoos]] in Victoria. In 1982, the archdiocese began the St Andrew's Greek Orthodox Theological College in Sydney, where Archbishop Stylianos currently serves as dean and Bishop Seraphim as sub-dean. As the lone theological college in Australasia, it often accepts students of other jurisdictions.<br />
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The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia is also a founding member of [[SCCOCA]].<br />
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== The Episcopacy ==<br />
[[Image:Metr._Nikitas_of_Hong_Kong.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Metr. Nikitas]]<br />
*Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia has held this position from 1999-2007. He is currently serving as the director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute in Berkeley, California. The chancellor of the The Chancellor of the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia, Archimandrite Konstantinos Tsilis, is guiding the Metropolitanate in his absence, until he returns or another bishop is selected.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Daniel (Toyne)]] is the sole priest in Singapore.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Jonah (Mourtos)]] is the sole priest in Taiwan.<br />
*Vicar [[Nikitas (Mellios)]] is the senior active priest in the Philippines.<br />
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*Archimandrite [[Lazarus (Moore)]], missionary in India 1952-1972.<br />
*Archimandrite [[Vincentius (Escharcha)]], priest in the Philippines.<br />
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===External links===<br />
* [http://www.omhksea.org Official Website of the Metropolitanate]<br />
* [http://www.patriarchate.org/ Official Website of the Orthodox Patriarchate of Constantinople]<br />
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====Exarchate of Singapore====<br />
* [http://www.geocities.com/orthodoxchurchsg Holy Resurrection Orthodox Church] in Singapore.<br />
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====Exarchate of Taiwan====<br />
* [http://www.orthodox.com.tw/ Holy Trinity Orthodox Church] in Taiwan.<br />
* [http://flickr.com/photos/90309235@N00/116898662/in/set-72057594089294852/ Orthodox Christian Liturgy in Taipei, Pascha 2004]<br />
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====Exarchate of the [[Orthodoxy in the Philippines|Philippines]]====<br />
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* [http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines.] <br />
* [http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Cathedral]<br />
* [http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html/ Greeks in the Philippines & Their Contribution to the Country]<br />
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====Exarchate of [[Orthodoxy in Indonesia|Indonesia]]====<br />
* [http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/church_history/byantoro_indonesia.htm Birth of Orthodoxy in Indonesia]<br />
* [http://www.friendsofindonesia.org/ Website for the Indonesian Orthodox Mission under ROCOR]<br />
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====Exarchate of India====<br />
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* [http://www.psoc-cal.org/ Philanthropic Society of the Orthodox Church - Calcutta].<br />
* [http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/history_india.html History of the Church in India].<br />
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This language is pretty strong -- maybe it would be helpful to have more identification here -- what are these groups like, what are they called? "Clandestine and cultic" should have some documentation to fill it out, otherwise this language is just regarded as personal opinion. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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Dear Father John,<br />
The online dictionary defined the word '''clandestine''' as "'''existing or operating in a way so as to ensure complete concealment and confidentiality'''" ([http://www.answers.com/topic/clandestine]). The American Heritage Dictionary defined the word '''cult''' as "a religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or '''false''', with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. Listed below are registered churches in the Philippines claiming to be "Orthodox". No other information can be obtained from the internet except the name of their church. I have talked with some members and clergymen of these "orthodox" groups years back while I was searchin for the true Orthodox Church and I found out that they professed the Hindu, Buddhist and "New Age" doctrine of Karma and '''Reincarnation'''. They also believed in "mediums" (i.e., Christ, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Theotokos, the Child Jesus etc. possesing their spiritual leaders (priests and bishops) thereby receiving from them the power to heal, prophesy etc.).<br />
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1. ARCHBISHOP ISAAC NEE DANIEL L. GOROSPE EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, INC. <br />
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2. ARCHBISHOP JAMES NEE LEON C. CACHERO JR. INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, INC. <br />
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3. ARCHBISHOP PATRIARCH ABRAHAM JOHN PAUL I NEE ARTEMIO FRANCISCO. <br />
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4. PAULINO CANETE-PINERO D.D. OF THE ORTHODOX MISSIONARY FATHERS. <br />
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5. BISHOP OF LOS BANOS OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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6. BISHOP PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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7. BISHOP UNITED ORTHODOX APOSTOLIC EASTERN CHURCH, INC.<br />
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8. CONGREGATION OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSIONARIES INC. <br />
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9. DIOCESAN BISHOP OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CANONICAL DIOCESE OF THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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10. DIVINE ORTHODOX CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC.<br />
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11. FAR EAST ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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12. GOVERNING HIERARCH OF THE ASIAN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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13. HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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14. KATHOLIKOS ARCHIEREUS OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH ORD. IN PHILS. <br />
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15. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH OF AMERICAS & ASIA INC. <br />
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16. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION INCORPORATED <br />
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17. ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES, INC. <br />
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18. PHIL. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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19. PHIL. PATRIARCH OF THE HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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20. PRESIDING PRESBYTER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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21. PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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22. SAN AGUSTIN III (DASMARINAS CAVITE) RESIDENTS & MEMBERS OF INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. <br />
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23. SOVEREIGN ORDER OF THE ORTHODOX HOSPITALLERS OF ST. JOHN.<br />
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24. ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH, INC. <br />
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25. UNITED ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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26. WESTERN AND EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH MISSIONARIES SOCIETY INC. <br />
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27. WESTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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'''Source''': The Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission<br />
[http://www.sec.gov.ph/]<br />
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There are other unregistered clandestine and cultic "churches" claiming to be orthodox which are not included in the above list. <br />
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Father, since you find the language "pretty strong" please provide a more appropriate alternative. Thank you very much. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 21:27, June 7, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Filipino - it's very interesting, if not helpful, to see all of those groups. Perhaps strong language is appropriate, but maybe they are not all clandestine or cultic according to your definitions? Definitely they breed confusion, and it can be good to identify groups to avoid. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::Dear Father John I already removed the "strong language". Thank you for your unbiased insight and kind remarks.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 10:24, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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If they are clandestine as you say "Filipino, then why are they listed with the Philippine Exchange Commission, have been recognized as religious entities by the Philippine government, and some of these groups are members of the National Council of Churches in the Philippines. Please stop politicizing this entry. ---Marcus<br />
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:The term "clandestine" has been removed. The groups are what they are - it isn't really of concern to us here. Marcus, can you provide any solid documentation related to the arrival of the Lebanese families you metioned in the 1800's? Thanks, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Antiochians in the Philippines ==<br />
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It appears that there is some polemic here, with Marcus representing the Antiochian side and Filipino representing the Greek side. Both have provided different histories of the origins of Orthodoxy in the Philippines, which each seem to bolster jurisdictional claims.<br />
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It's difficult for me to imagine that Antiochians aren't in communion with Greeks -- is this really the case? Was the deacon merely representing himself, or was he sent by his bishop?<br />
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I can definitely see the canonical problems here, though. It may be helpful to keep in mind that these canonical issues persist throughout the "diaspora" - hence the historical interest in claiming first landing in the country. There is no doubt that these conflicts will remain with us for some time. My hope is that on the wiki we can seek to describe the situation as completely and dispassionately as possible, with attention to the historical circumstance and competing canonical claims. We are definitely biased towards the what we call "Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy", i.e. those churches in communion with the ancient patriarchates (with the exception of Rome), but I would prefer to remain as neutral as possible in the midst of inter-jurisdictional disputes such as this. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 10:45, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand or any Orthdox Church. His views do not represent the views of any canonical bishop in Australia --Marcus<br />
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: I reverted the article to the previus revision as of 17:37, June 8, 2007 by Fr. John. Marcus, please justify your act of deleting the reference to the first reception of Filipino Orthodox Christians in the Philippines and for removing the links to the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines. Likewise, Marcus, please cite your sources and historical documents to support your claim about the Lebanese and Syrian Christians in the Philippines. If you can provide evidence and documentation for this then reference to Lebanese and Syrian Christians as the "first" Orthodox Christians in the Philippines should be included in the article.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 20:31, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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First, I do not speak for the ancient Antiochian Orthodox Church nor for its Australian archdiocese. <br />
Would you want the family names? The Syrian and Lebanese Consulates in Manila confirmed that after the opening of foreign trade, a number of Ottoman subjects from the Greater Syria province arrived in the Philippines including the Sa-id and Saliba (which became Filipino-nized into "Soliba") families. The Sa-id family has the records to show that their ancestors worked on British ships in the Philippines. <br />
Furthermore, I deleted the references because it is too politicized and shows blind papal-cesaerism, not to mention its highly inaccurate and anti-Arab. The Greek Orthodox Church in the Philippines can not call itself ''the'' Orthodox Church of the Philippines because it is not legally entitled to do so, check the SEC registration again. Nor does it have the canonical or moral authority to do so. According to the 1, 2, 3 Ecumenical Councils, Antioch was given the jurisdictional territory of "All the East" which means all of Asia and for this reason Antioch had parishes in China, Indonesia, and India as early as the 2nd century in the year of our Lord. It is also known that the Patriarchate of Moscow still considers the Philippines its missionary area because of its early presence in Manila. May God grant you guidance and wisdom to refrain from attacking the ancient See of Antioch, the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia, and for showing more careful and loving discernment in your writing about Orthodoxy in the Philippines.<br />
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--Marcus<br />
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:It seems to me that we should keep the reference in to the Lebenese families. Not sure why it is so contentious. Certainly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from someplace arrived here first" argument. It's an interesting historical tidbit, anyway. <br />
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:About the other matters, I kindly request that you both refrain from personal attacks and from attributing bad motives to one another, at least here. These are difficult issues, and it's a difficult time in church history (can't think of one that wasn't...). Ultimately, the bishops must work these things out. Honestly, I think that all of these "it's my territory" claims are doomed to failure in the so-called diaspora. The world has changed - increased mobility of peoples and other forces of globalization means that traditionally Orthodox peoples, each with their own histories, find themselves in far corners of the earth. Naturally, they bring their heritage -- and their hierarchy -- with them when there is no established and deeply rooted Orthodox church body in the region. The various jurisdictions will simply have to learn to live with each other under these new circumstances, observing and preserving carefully the bonds of communion which tie us together. I am sympathetic with the desire for canonical order that I see reflected in Filipino's statements, as well as the desire for an authentically indigenous Orthodoxy I see in Marcus' comments. It seems to me that these issues won't be really worked out unless there is a functioning primacy according to Orthodox canonical tradition, that bears the interests of the whole deeply in its heart. We may all dream of such a day, but it doesn't appear that this will happen anytime soon.<br />
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:I want to emphasize once again that the role of OrthodoxWiki is not to take a side in these debates, but to honestly reflect the situation as clearly as possibly, avoiding gossip, speculation, and slander. The articles should reflect ''who'' says ''what'', ''where'', ''when'' and (to the degree it can be ascertained) ''why''. This may not solve anything -- but that's not the purpose here. I hope this approach will be of service to people trying to figure these things out on all sides. <br />
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:May God bless us and have mercy on all of His struggling children! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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:Dear Father John, I totally agree with you. Truly, any canonical claims cannot merely rest on the "a few families from some place arrived here first" argument. Sadly, it is a well known fact that those who deny the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the diaspora are mostly those who belong from the uncanonical group of eastern orthodoxy. Again, thank you very much for your valuable insight. Marcus, can you tell us more about the "Orthodox Church in the Philippines" which is registered at the Philippine SEC as the "'''Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas'''". Its website does not indicate any address in the Philippines and abroad. Is it under the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch? In the year 2007 Antiochian Archbishop's Report Fr. Deacon Chris Gain's name is listed as one of the Deacons under the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia (pls. see [http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/615/22/ Archbishop's Report.])His name is also listed at number 14 under "Clergy no longer with the Archdiocese". You wrote that "Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand '''or any Orthdox Church'''" but the February 06, 2007 ([http://www.antiochian.org.au/content/view/602/0/ Antiochian Archdiocese News.])wrote: "With the written blessing of Metropolitan Archbishop Paul, Father Deacon Christopher was released from the Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand this day '''to assist the Patriarchate located in Damascus, Syria'''." But you said Chris Gain is not a deacon in "any other Orthodox Church". And why did you refer to Fr. Deacon Chris Gain simply as "Chris Gain"? I hope you can shed more light on this. Thank you. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 04:09, June 9, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52669Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-09T10:29:36Z<p>Filipino: /* Links */ Added a link to an article about the history of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines by Rev. Dr. John Chrysavgis.</p>
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<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
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The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
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== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
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After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
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== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
There are a number of accounts about the history of Orthodoxy in the Philippines. <br />
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It appears that the first Orthodox Christians on the islands were Syrian and Lebanese merchants and sailors, who arrived in Manila after Manila was opened to outside trade. The first recorded Orthodox Christians in the Philippines were Syrian and Lebanese sailors in 1802 according to the Syrian Consulate in Manila. Many of the Lebanese sailors married and their families still reside in the Philippines and have become Filipino citizens, including the owners of a famous pizza parlor in Manila. The oldest Orthodox Christian in the Philippines, a Lebanese by the last name of Assad, was born around 1904 and is still alive. <br />
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Around the beginning of the twentieth century, Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and many of whom have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not, however, speak Greek. <br />
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An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
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===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
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Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
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Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
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Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
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== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
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In 1992, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
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On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
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In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
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==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
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One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
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Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
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In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
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At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and is spiritually administered by an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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*[http://filorthodoxia.googlepages.com/church.htm History of the First Filipino Orthodox Community in the Philippines by Rev. Dr. John Chryssavgis]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.cn/news/20000420philippines_en.htm Orthodox Patriarch Visits Fledgling Local Orthodox Church]<br />
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{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52654Talk:Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-09T03:31:20Z<p>Filipino: /* Antiochians in the Philippines */</p>
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<div>=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
This language is pretty strong -- maybe it would be helpful to have more identification here -- what are these groups like, what are they called? "Clandestine and cultic" should have some documentation to fill it out, otherwise this language is just regarded as personal opinion. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
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Dear Father John,<br />
The online dictionary defined the word '''clandestine''' as "'''existing or operating in a way so as to ensure complete concealment and confidentiality'''" ([http://www.answers.com/topic/clandestine]). The American Heritage Dictionary defined the word '''cult''' as "a religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or '''false''', with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. Listed below are registered churches in the Philippines claiming to be "Orthodox". No other information can be obtained from the internet except the name of their church. I have talked with some members and clergymen of these "orthodox" groups years back while I was searchin for the true Orthodox Church and I found out that they professed the Hindu, Buddhist and "New Age" doctrine of Karma and '''Reincarnation'''. They also believed in "mediums" (i.e., Christ, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Theotokos, the Child Jesus etc. possesing their spiritual leaders (priests and bishops) thereby receiving from them the power to heal, prophesy etc.).<br />
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1. ARCHBISHOP ISAAC NEE DANIEL L. GOROSPE EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, INC. <br />
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2. ARCHBISHOP JAMES NEE LEON C. CACHERO JR. INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, INC. <br />
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3. ARCHBISHOP PATRIARCH ABRAHAM JOHN PAUL I NEE ARTEMIO FRANCISCO. <br />
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4. PAULINO CANETE-PINERO D.D. OF THE ORTHODOX MISSIONARY FATHERS. <br />
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5. BISHOP OF LOS BANOS OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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6. BISHOP PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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7. BISHOP UNITED ORTHODOX APOSTOLIC EASTERN CHURCH, INC.<br />
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8. CONGREGATION OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSIONARIES INC. <br />
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9. DIOCESAN BISHOP OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CANONICAL DIOCESE OF THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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10. DIVINE ORTHODOX CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC.<br />
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11. FAR EAST ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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12. GOVERNING HIERARCH OF THE ASIAN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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13. HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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14. KATHOLIKOS ARCHIEREUS OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH ORD. IN PHILS. <br />
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15. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH OF AMERICAS & ASIA INC. <br />
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16. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION INCORPORATED <br />
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17. ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES, INC. <br />
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18. PHIL. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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19. PHIL. PATRIARCH OF THE HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
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20. PRESIDING PRESBYTER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILS. INC. <br />
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21. PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
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22. SAN AGUSTIN III (DASMARINAS CAVITE) RESIDENTS & MEMBERS OF INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. <br />
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23. SOVEREIGN ORDER OF THE ORTHODOX HOSPITALLERS OF ST. JOHN.<br />
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24. ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH, INC. <br />
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25. UNITED ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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26. WESTERN AND EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH MISSIONARIES SOCIETY INC. <br />
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27. WESTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
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'''Source''': The Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission<br />
[http://www.sec.gov.ph/]<br />
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There are other unregistered clandestine and cultic "churches" claiming to be orthodox which are not included in the above list. <br />
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Father, since you find the language "pretty strong" please provide a more appropriate alternative. Thank you very much. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 21:27, June 7, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Filipino - it's very interesting, if not helpful, to see all of those groups. Perhaps strong language is appropriate, but maybe they are not all clandestine or cultic according to your definitions? Definitely they breed confusion, and it can be good to identify groups to avoid. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::Dear Father John I already removed the "strong language". Thank you for your unbiased insight and kind remarks.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 10:24, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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If they are clandestine as you say "Filipino, then why are they listed with the Philippine Exchange Commission, have been recognized as religious entities by the Philippine government, and some of these groups are members of the National Council of Churches in the Philippines. Please stop politicizing this entry. ---Marcus<br />
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:The term "clandestine" has been removed. The groups are what they are - it isn't really of concern to us here. Marcus, can you provide any solid documentation related to the arrival of the Lebanese families you metioned in the 1800's? Thanks, — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Antiochians in the Philippines ==<br />
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It appears that there is some polemic here, with Marcus representing the Antiochian side and Filipino representing the Greek side. Both have provided different histories of the origins of Orthodoxy in the Philippines, which each seem to bolster jurisdictional claims.<br />
<br />
It's difficult for me to imagine that Antiochians aren't in communion with Greeks -- is this really the case? Was the deacon merely representing himself, or was he sent by his bishop?<br />
<br />
I can definitely see the canonical problems here, though. It may be helpful to keep in mind that these canonical issues persist throughout the "diaspora" - hence the historical interest in claiming first landing in the country. There is no doubt that these conflicts will remain with us for some time. My hope is that on the wiki we can seek to describe the situation as completely and dispassionately as possible, with attention to the historical circumstance and competing canonical claims. We are definitely biased towards the what we call "Mainstream Chalcedonian Orthodoxy", i.e. those churches in communion with the ancient patriarchates (with the exception of Rome), but I would prefer to remain as neutral as possible in the midst of inter-jurisdictional disputes such as this. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk]) 10:45, June 8, 2007 (PDT)<br />
<br />
Chris Gain is not a deacon within the Antiochian Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand or any Orthdox Church. His views do not represent the views of any canonical bishop in Australia --Marcus<br />
<br />
<br />
: I reverted the article to the previus revision as of 17:37, June 8, 2007 by Fr. John. Marcus, please justify your act of deleting the reference to the first reception of Filipino Orthodox Christians in the Philippines and for removing the links to the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines. Likewise, Marcus, please cite your sources and historical documents to support your claim about the Lebanese and Syrian Christians in the Philippines. If you can provide evidence and documentation for this then reference to Lebanese and Syrian Christians as the "first" Orthodox Christians in the Philippines should be included in the article.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 20:31, June 8, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52650Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-09T03:09:02Z<p>Filipino: reverted to Revision as of 17:37, June 8, 2007 by Fr. John</p>
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<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
There are a number of accounts about the history of Orthodoxy in the Philippines. <br />
<br />
It appears that the first Orthodox Christians on the islands were Syrian and Lebanese merchants and sailors, who arrived in Manila after Manila was opened to outside trade. The first recorded Orthodox Christians in the Philippines were a Lebanese family, referenced (''who arrived?'') in 1802 ''(citation?)''. Many of the Lebanese families still reside in the Philippines and have become Filipino citizens.<br />
<br />
Around the beginning of the twentieth century, Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and many of whom have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not, however, speak Greek. <br />
<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Other Jurisdiction ==<br />
In December 2006, Fr. Chris Gain, a deacon from the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]], came to Manila, and, without informing the local hierarchy of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines, registered a church bearing the name "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" (Orthodox Church of the Philippines). Their webpage describes their church as ''the'' Orthodox Church in the Philippines. This church is seeking to receive Filipino clergymen through incardination. They do not provide information regarding the actual number of members. This jurisdiction, represented by one Abbot Cristofor and based in New Castle, Australia, has no clergy, churches, nor parishes anywhere in the Philippines and is not in communion with the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines, which is under the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] of Constantinople.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and is spiritually administered by an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.cn/news/20000420philippines_en.htm Orthodox Patriarch Visits Fledgling Local Orthodox Church]<br />
<br />
{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52603Talk:Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-08T17:24:50Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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<div>=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
This language is pretty strong -- maybe it would be helpful to have more identification here -- what are these groups like, what are they called? "Clandestine and cultic" should have some documentation to fill it out, otherwise this language is just regarded as personal opinion. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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<br />
=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
<br />
Dear Father John,<br />
The online dictionary defined the word '''clandestine''' as "'''existing or operating in a way so as to ensure complete concealment and confidentiality'''" ([http://www.answers.com/topic/clandestine]). The American Heritage Dictionary defined the word '''cult''' as "a religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or '''false''', with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. Listed below are registered churches in the Philippines claiming to be "Orthodox". No other information can be obtained from the internet except the name of their church. I have talked with some members and clergymen of these "orthodox" groups years back while I was searchin for the true Orthodox Church and I found out that they professed the Hindu, Buddhist and "New Age" doctrine of Karma and '''Reincarnation'''. They also believed in "mediums" (i.e., Christ, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Theotokos, the Child Jesus etc. possesing their spiritual leaders (priests and bishops) thereby receiving from them the power to heal, prophesy etc.).<br />
<br />
1. ARCHBISHOP ISAAC NEE DANIEL L. GOROSPE EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, INC. <br />
<br />
2. ARCHBISHOP JAMES NEE LEON C. CACHERO JR. INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, INC. <br />
<br />
3. ARCHBISHOP PATRIARCH ABRAHAM JOHN PAUL I NEE ARTEMIO FRANCISCO. <br />
<br />
4. PAULINO CANETE-PINERO D.D. OF THE ORTHODOX MISSIONARY FATHERS. <br />
<br />
5. BISHOP OF LOS BANOS OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
6. BISHOP PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
7. BISHOP UNITED ORTHODOX APOSTOLIC EASTERN CHURCH, INC.<br />
<br />
8. CONGREGATION OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSIONARIES INC. <br />
<br />
9. DIOCESAN BISHOP OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CANONICAL DIOCESE OF THE PHILS. INC. <br />
<br />
10. DIVINE ORTHODOX CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC.<br />
<br />
11. FAR EAST ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
12. GOVERNING HIERARCH OF THE ASIAN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
13. HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
<br />
14. KATHOLIKOS ARCHIEREUS OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH ORD. IN PHILS. <br />
<br />
15. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH OF AMERICAS & ASIA INC. <br />
<br />
16. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION INCORPORATED <br />
<br />
17. ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES, INC. <br />
<br />
18. PHIL. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
19. PHIL. PATRIARCH OF THE HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
<br />
20. PRESIDING PRESBYTER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILS. INC. <br />
<br />
21. PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
22. SAN AGUSTIN III (DASMARINAS CAVITE) RESIDENTS & MEMBERS OF INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. <br />
<br />
23. SOVEREIGN ORDER OF THE ORTHODOX HOSPITALLERS OF ST. JOHN.<br />
<br />
24. ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH, INC. <br />
<br />
25. UNITED ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
<br />
26. WESTERN AND EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH MISSIONARIES SOCIETY INC. <br />
<br />
27. WESTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Source''': The Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission<br />
[http://www.sec.gov.ph/]<br />
<br />
<br />
There are other unregistered clandestine and cultic "churches" claiming to be orthodox which are not included in the above list. <br />
<br />
Father, since you find the language "pretty strong" please provide a more appropriate alternative. Thank you very much. [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 21:27, June 7, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Filipino - it's very interesting, if not helpful, to see all of those groups. Perhaps strong language is appropriate, but maybe they are not all clandestine or cultic according to your definitions? Definitely they breed confusion, and it can be good to identify groups to avoid. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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::Dear Father John I already removed the "strong language". Thank you for your unbiased insight and kind remarks.<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 10:24, June 8, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52597Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-08T17:08:39Z<p>Filipino: /* Links */ removed a dead link. Added a link to the year 2000 Patriarchal visit in the Philippines.</p>
<hr />
<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
Orthodoxy arrived in the Philippines when Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not, however, speak Greek. <br />
<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Other Jurisdiction ==<br />
In December 2006, Fr. Chris Gain, a deacon from the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]], came to Manila, and, without informing the local hierarchy of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines, registered a church bearing the name "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" (Orthodox Church of the Philippines). Their webpage describes their church as ''the'' Orthodox Church in the Philippines. This church is seeking to receive Filipino clergymen through incardination. They do not provide information regarding the actual number of members. This jurisdiction, represented by one Abbot Cristofor and based in New Castle, Australia, has no clergy, churches, nor parishes anywhere in the Philippines and is not in communion with the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines, which is under the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] of Constantinople.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and is spiritually administered by an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.orthodox.cn/news/20000420philippines_en.htm Orthodox Patriarch Visits Fledgling Local Orthodox Church]<br />
<br />
{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52596Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-08T16:52:45Z<p>Filipino: /* Links */ link added to the major events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines from OMHKSEA website.</p>
<hr />
<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
Orthodoxy arrived in the Philippines when Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not, however, speak Greek. <br />
<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Other Jurisdiction ==<br />
In December 2006, Fr. Chris Gain, a deacon from the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]], came to Manila, and, without informing the local hierarchy of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines, registered a church bearing the name "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" (Orthodox Church of the Philippines). Their webpage describes their church as ''the'' Orthodox Church in the Philippines. This church is seeking to receive Filipino clergymen through incardination. They do not provide information regarding the actual number of members. This jurisdiction, represented by one Abbot Cristofor and based in New Castle, Australia, has no clergy, churches, nor parishes anywhere in the Philippines and is not in communion with the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines, which is under the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] of Constantinople.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and is spiritually administered by an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://orthodox-communities.blogspot.com/2007/04/orthodox-communities-in-philippines.html Orthodox Communities in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_major_events.html Major Events of Orthodoxy in the Philippines]<br />
<br />
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{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52595Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-08T16:40:09Z<p>Filipino: Revert to previous edition. Removed undocumented data and unsupported claims about the Lebanese being the "first" Orthodox in the Philippines. Please cite your source.</p>
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<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
Orthodoxy arrived in the Philippines when Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not, however, speak Greek. <br />
<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Other Jurisdiction ==<br />
In December 2006, Fr. Chris Gain, a deacon from the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]], came to Manila, and, without informing the local hierarchy of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines, registered a church bearing the name "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" (Orthodox Church of the Philippines). Their webpage describes their church as ''the'' Orthodox Church in the Philippines. This church is seeking to receive Filipino clergymen through incardination. They do not provide information regarding the actual number of members. This jurisdiction, represented by one Abbot Cristofor and based in New Castle, Australia, has no clergy, churches, nor parishes anywhere in the Philippines and is not in communion with the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines, which is under the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] of Constantinople.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and is spiritually administered by an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://orthodox-communities.blogspot.com/2007/04/orthodox-communities-in-philippines.html Orthodox Communities in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
<br />
<br />
{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52594Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-08T16:30:11Z<p>Filipino: Orthodoxy in the Phils. Today: removed the strong words "clandestine" and "cultic" .</p>
<hr />
<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was instituted during the American colonial regime. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
Orthodoxy arrived in the Philippines when Syrian and Lebanese merchants and sailors arrived in Manila after Manila was opened to outside trade. The first recorded Orthodox Christian is a Lebanese family in 1802. Many of the Lebanese families still reside in the Philippines and have become Filipino citizens.<br />
<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of [[Church of Russia|Moscow and All Russia]] appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
<br />
There are many groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Church History]]<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]<br />
[[Category:Orthodoxy by country|Philippines]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=52583Talk:Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-06-08T04:27:37Z<p>Filipino: /* "clandestine and cultic" */</p>
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<div>=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
This language is pretty strong -- maybe it would be helpful to have more identification here -- what are these groups like, what are they called? "Clandestine and cultic" should have some documentation to fill it out, otherwise this language is just regarded as personal opinion. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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<br />
=="clandestine and cultic"==<br />
<br />
Dear Father John,<br />
The online dictionary defined the word '''clandestine''' as "'''existing or operating in a way so as to ensure complete concealment and confidentiality'''" ([http://www.answers.com/topic/clandestine]). The American Heritage Dictionary defined the word '''cult''' as "a religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or '''false''', with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. Listed below are registered churches in the Philippines claiming to be "Orthodox". No other information can be obtained from the internet except the name of their church. I have talked with some members and clergymen of these "orthodox" groups years back while I was searchin for the true Orthodox Church and I found out that they professed the Hindu, Buddhist and "New Age" doctrine of Karma and '''Reincarnation'''. They also believed in "mediums" (i.e., Christ, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Theotokos, the Child Jesus etc. possesing their spiritual leaders (priests and bishops) thereby receiving from them the power to heal, prophesy etc.).<br />
<br />
1. ARCHBISHOP ISAAC NEE DANIEL L. GOROSPE EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST, INC. <br />
<br />
2. ARCHBISHOP JAMES NEE LEON C. CACHERO JR. INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, INC. <br />
<br />
3. ARCHBISHOP PATRIARCH ABRAHAM JOHN PAUL I NEE ARTEMIO FRANCISCO. <br />
<br />
4. PAULINO CANETE-PINERO D.D. OF THE ORTHODOX MISSIONARY FATHERS. <br />
<br />
5. BISHOP OF LOS BANOS OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
6. BISHOP PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
7. BISHOP UNITED ORTHODOX APOSTOLIC EASTERN CHURCH, INC.<br />
<br />
8. CONGREGATION OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSIONARIES INC. <br />
<br />
9. DIOCESAN BISHOP OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CANONICAL DIOCESE OF THE PHILS. INC. <br />
<br />
10. DIVINE ORTHODOX CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC.<br />
<br />
11. FAR EAST ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
12. GOVERNING HIERARCH OF THE ASIAN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
13. HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
<br />
14. KATHOLIKOS ARCHIEREUS OF ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH ORD. IN PHILS. <br />
<br />
15. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH OF AMERICAS & ASIA INC. <br />
<br />
16. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC MISSION INCORPORATED <br />
<br />
17. ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES, INC. <br />
<br />
18. PHIL. ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
19. PHIL. PATRIARCH OF THE HOLY ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST INC. <br />
<br />
20. PRESIDING PRESBYTER OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IN THE PHILS. INC. <br />
<br />
21. PRIMATE OF THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH INC. <br />
<br />
22. SAN AGUSTIN III (DASMARINAS CAVITE) RESIDENTS & MEMBERS OF INTL. ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. <br />
<br />
23. SOVEREIGN ORDER OF THE ORTHODOX HOSPITALLERS OF ST. JOHN.<br />
<br />
24. ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH, INC. <br />
<br />
25. UNITED ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
<br />
26. WESTERN AND EASTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH MISSIONARIES SOCIETY INC. <br />
<br />
27. WESTERN ORTHODOX CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILS., INC. <br />
<br />
<br />
'''Source''': The Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission<br />
[http://www.sec.gov.ph/]<br />
<br />
<br />
There are other unregistered clandestine and cultic "churches" claiming to be orthodox which are not included in the above list. <br />
<br />
Father, since you find the language "pretty strong" please provide a more appropriate alternative. Thank you very much.<br />
<br />
<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 21:27, June 7, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=52408Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-06-04T09:45:17Z<p>Filipino: /* External links */ added link to "The Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong & South East Asia Ordinance".</p>
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The '''Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia''', headquartered in Hong Kong, is an [[eparchy]] of the [[Church of Constantinople]]. Its current [[bishop]] is His Eminence [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]], [[Metropolitan]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, which includes Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.<br />
{{diocese|<br />
name=Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia|<br />
jurisdiction=[[Church of Constantinople|Constantinople]]|<br />
type=Metropolis|<br />
founded=1996|<br />
bishop=[[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Metr. Nikitas]]|<br />
see=Hong Kong|<br />
hq=Hong Kong|<br />
territory=Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan|<br />
language=English, Greek, other native languages|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]]|<br />
calendar=[[Revised Julian Calendar|Revised Julian]]|<br />
population=''unknown''|<br />
website=[http://www.omhksea.org/ OMHKSEA]<br />
}}<br />
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**Archimandrite [[Konstantinos (Tsilis)]] is the Chancellor of the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia. <br />
**Archimandrite [[Daniel (Toyne)]] is the sole priest in Singapore<br />
**Archimandrite [[Jonah (Mourtos)]] is the sole priest in Taiwan.<br />
**Vicar [[Nikitas (Mellios)]] is the senior active priest in the Philippines<br />
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* [http://www.omhksea.org Official Website of the Metropolitanate]<br />
* [http://www.orthodox.cn/contemporary/stlukecathedral/1163_en.htm The Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong & South East Asia Ordinance.]<br />
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*Exarchate of Singapore<br />
** [http://www.geocities.com/orthodoxchurchsg Holy Resurrection Orthodox Church] in Singapore.<br />
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*Exarchate of Taiwan<br />
** [http://www.orthodox.com.tw/ Holy Trinity Orthodox Church] in Taiwan.<br />
** [http://flickr.com/photos/90309235@N00/116898662/in/set-72057594089294852/ Orthodox Christian Liturgy in Taipei, Pascha 2004]<br />
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*Exarchate of the Philippines<br />
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** [http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Church]<br />
** [http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html/ Greeks in the Philippines & Their Contribution to the Country]<br />
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*Exarchate of Indonesia<br />
** [http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/htm/orthodoxindonesia.htm The Orthodox Church in Indonesia]<br />
** [http://ocmc.org/images/pb/magazine/38_OCMC2006Springmagweb.pdf/ OCMC report on two Indonesian Priests and their mission under OMHKSEA]<br />
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*Exarchate of India'''<br />
** [http://www.psoc-cal.org/ Philanthropic Society of the Orthodox Church - Calcutta].<br />
** [http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/history_india.html History of the Church in India].<br />
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[[Category:Orthodoxy in China]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=52407Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-06-04T09:40:32Z<p>Filipino: /* The Episcopacy */ added the name of the present Chancellor of OMHKSEA.</p>
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The '''Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia''', headquartered in Hong Kong, is an [[eparchy]] of the [[Church of Constantinople]]. Its current [[bishop]] is His Eminence [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]], [[Metropolitan]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, which includes Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.<br />
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jurisdiction=[[Church of Constantinople|Constantinople]]|<br />
type=Metropolis|<br />
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bishop=[[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Metr. Nikitas]]|<br />
see=Hong Kong|<br />
hq=Hong Kong|<br />
territory=Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan|<br />
language=English, Greek, other native languages|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]]|<br />
calendar=[[Revised Julian Calendar|Revised Julian]]|<br />
population=''unknown''|<br />
website=[http://www.omhksea.org/ OMHKSEA]<br />
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==Organization==<br />
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== The Episcopacy ==<br />
[[Image:Metr._Nikitas_of_Hong_Kong.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Metr. Nikitas]]<br />
*Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, 1999-2007. He is currently serving as the director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute in Berkeley, California.<br />
**Archimandrite [[Konstantinos (Tsilis)]] is the Chancellor of the Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia. <br />
**Archimandrite [[Daniel (Toyne)]] is the sole priest in Singapore<br />
**Archimandrite [[Jonah (Mourtos)]] is the sole priest in Taiwan.<br />
**Vicar [[Nikitas (Mellios)]] is the senior active priest in the Philippines<br />
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*Archimandrite [[Lazarus (Moore)]], missionary in India 1952-1972<br />
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* [http://www.omhksea.org Official Website of the Metropolitanate]<br />
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*Exarchate of Singapore<br />
** [http://www.geocities.com/orthodoxchurchsg Holy Resurrection Orthodox Church] in Singapore.<br />
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*Exarchate of Taiwan<br />
** [http://www.orthodox.com.tw/ Holy Trinity Orthodox Church] in Taiwan.<br />
** [http://flickr.com/photos/90309235@N00/116898662/in/set-72057594089294852/ Orthodox Christian Liturgy in Taipei, Pascha 2004]<br />
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*Exarchate of the Philippines<br />
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** [http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Church]<br />
** [http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html/ Greeks in the Philippines & Their Contribution to the Country]<br />
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*Exarchate of Indonesia<br />
** [http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/htm/orthodoxindonesia.htm The Orthodox Church in Indonesia]<br />
** [http://ocmc.org/images/pb/magazine/38_OCMC2006Springmagweb.pdf/ OCMC report on two Indonesian Priests and their mission under OMHKSEA]<br />
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*Exarchate of India'''<br />
** [http://www.psoc-cal.org/ Philanthropic Society of the Orthodox Church - Calcutta].<br />
** [http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/history_india.html History of the Church in India].<br />
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[[Category:Orthodoxy in China]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ASDamick&diff=52386User talk:ASDamick2007-06-03T03:51:59Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (Dec. 18, 2004 - June 17, 2005)<br />
* [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] (July 5, 2005 - Dec. 15, 2005)<br />
* [[/Archive 3|Archive 3]] (Dec. 23, 2005 - Aug. 2, 2006)<br />
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== Baby ==<br />
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Congratulations to you both! We are expecting our little baby girl in mid-October 2006. We might have to swap tips! [[User:Joe Rodgers|&#123;&#123;User:Joe Rodgers/sig}}]] 23:48, August 5, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Working on Bishop Basil entry ==<br />
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Dear ASDamick,<br />
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Thank you for your recent changes to the article on [[Basil (Osborne) of Amphipolis]]. I'm glad to see us working on this text together. I would like to see it accurately and dispassionately reflect the full state of affairs surrounding this bishop. I think that most of your revisions to my recent update of the text have been very helpful - again, my many thanks for them.<br />
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A few points that I think still need some further consideration:<br />
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* ''Title:'' The title 'Bishop of Amphipolis' is contested, and highly controversial. It doesn't seem appropriate for the OrthodoxWiki article on the bishop to take a definitive side one way or the other on this matter. I had altered the text to address this, which you refined nicely. However, I do think it appopriate that the issue is left relatively open, by simply referring to him as 'Bishop Basil' in most cases (e.g. in the caption under the photograph). The title of the article gives him the title 'Bishop of Amphipolis' already, which points things in a certain reading; but I think we need to be wary of giving 'our own blessing' to a matter that is disputed amongst the patriarchates.<br />
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* ''Nature of the bishop's retirement:'' I've corrected the paragraph on the nature of the bishop's forced retirement. This was not made because he sought reception in the EP, but because he sought to do so preemptorily, without canonical release and order.<br />
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* ''Title in summary box:'' In line with my point above on the bishop's title, I think it is only fair / accurate to return the small footnote qualifier on the title in the summary box at the bottom. Not to do so seems to claim, in the article, that the matter is disputed and open, only to go on in the summary information to present it as a closed/decided issue. I think in fairness to the actual situation, this small flag is warranted and not in itself a bias (cf. for example the summary boxes on autocephalous churches on Wikipedia, where a small asterisk is used next to churches whose autocephaly is disputed by some).<br />
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I've made edits to the article this morning to account for the above points; I hope they're in general things you approve of (I've made them as separate edits, so you can see the progression).<br />
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--[[User:Antonios aigyptos|Antonios]] 07:08, August 6, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Edit count ==<br />
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''"I'm currently in the lead and hoping I hit 10,000 first. (There's probably no prize, though.)"''<br />
:I think we should throw a party. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]<br />
::Seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof ? [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]<br />
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==Bp [[Thomas (Joseph) of Oakland]]==<br />
Thanks for responding to the issue on my talk page; I fear that, in the mood I was in, my response would have been somewhat less than an exhibition of perfect charity. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 07:13, August 14, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Byzantine response to OCA autocephaly ==<br />
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The bullet lists in [[Byzantine response to OCA autocephaly]]: Are they simply listing every single argument made by the Byzantine churches against OCA autocephaly? Because this one really boggles the mind:<br />
" * Moscow's act is an attempt to extend Soviet influence into America. "<br />
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This was perhaps tossed out by someone, somewhere, at some time, in an effort to amass as many objections as possible, but it clearly has no bearing whatsoever on the current state of affairs (as the rest of the article appears to). I'm not going to edit it quit yet (since you put it in there), but a footnote or an external link might be appropriate. Otherwise, it's completely spurious except as a historical curiosity which has clearly proven to be laughable.<br />
--[[User:Basil|Basil]] 16:16, August 14, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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:I agree that documentation would be helpful. Historical arguments would be useful to keep in, as they do give some perspective on the historical relations between the two jurisdictions. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]<br />
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==Return==<br />
A nice, subtle change that has not gone unnoticed. I look forward to your inactive partication! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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Welcome back, Deacon Andrew. I missed your discipline on keeping a consistent format for the articles. I mean this sincerely as I looked forward to your catching my "typos". It had kept me on the 'ball' but I still needed a good editor. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 13:57, October 9, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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==Congrats==<br />
I see you signed your last contribution "Father Andrew." Congratulations on your ordination! [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 22:31, October 30, 2006 (CST)<br />
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== corrupted letters ==<br />
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In editing the page [[Timeline of Church History]] with minor edits, the link you added [[bg:Времева лини�? на църковната и�?тори�?]] became corrupted. I would fix it, but the corrupted letters do not display on any of my browsers even if I look at the history. - [[User:Andrew|Andrew]] 10:04, November 7, 2006 (PST)<br />
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:AFAIK, this is a known issue with an upgrade to MySQL 5. I'm not enough of a whiz to fix the problem, and the damage is minimal, so we'll have to do it manually... Sorry! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Interwiki ==<br />
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Hi dear Father, I was leaving off the extra interwiki links for the Mian page until the additional localizations are ready for "Beta" stage, by which I mean that all the necessary documents have been translated... The "release" stage will then be when there are strong enough communities and moderation around these wikis to really launch them - i.e content and spam problems are dealt with quickly. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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==Metaxakis entry==<br />
Dear Father,<br />
Thank you for pointing out the issues of NPOV and MCB with the last edit I had entered. Of course I agree with having those standards for an encylopedic entry and I would like to see a better product along the lines you suggest. However I do have a few comments if i may.<br />
* I feel that the substance of what was written - about the agenda of the Pan Orthodox Congress of 1923 - actually was accurate and unbiased; after all history is history, and if those were the subjects that were tabled at that congress, it is a matter of history and a very important matter at that, and information which every Orthodox Christian today has a right to be informed and aware of. Im sure you agree that to simply list the items of the agenda as they were, is, I think is a neutral approach ''(i.e. "here is what what was proposed in 1923: 1, 2, 3, 4,..etc, in fact seven changes in all.)'' Not sure how else to word that part of it, it is what it is; some subjects such as this particular example, may not be neutral in themselves, and for us to attempt to make them so or omit them risks the error of creating our own modern bias instead, a risk every historian is aware of. The writing of history must be impartial, whether the historical facts in themselves are or arent impartial to us is another matter. I agree that the source timeline that I located the information on would be NPOV/MCB, however as for the information in itself, it is either factual or it is isn't (fabricated)....in other words there was no editing or personal opinions presented with that list, just the list of proposals in 1923 itself . And I remember seeing a similar list of items (from the 1923 congress) years ago on an OCA site, which I cannot find now. And so for this reason I believe it is necessary and important to have this part included for the complete and unbiased picture.<br />
* As for the second section I had entered (comparative study), which included a link to a site which detailed things about Metaxakis' early Masonic involvement right down to his troubled death, yes it too did not come from a MCB site, and that will need to be re-worked as you commented, perhaps with more research from other sources; but it too presented disturbing details, which in themselves were by nature * not neutral * (i.e. if he attained 33rd degree in 1909 that's important; if he was buried with Masonic honours in 1935 that fact too is important). It is doubtful how much other written research exists on this subject, at least in English. <br />
At any rate I appreciate the direction. Would be interested in what you think. Cheers,<br />
Chris.<br />
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== Thanks and congrats ==<br />
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Dear Father, thank you for your friendly welcoming and congratulations for your ordination! --[[User:Cat68|Cat68]] 08:55, February 16, 2007 (PST)<br />
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== HC invasion ==<br />
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Yes, indeed, we have descended. Our social ethics project has been, basically, to make sure that there were articles written for just about every article under the Ethics section. This is the first phase, followed by a review by the professor, after which you can expect changes to these articles (whether or not they've been worked on by other people in the mean time). [[User:Vandrona|Vandrona]]<br />
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== Baby ==<br />
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Congrat's on the birth of your first child!--[[User:AKCGY|AKCGY]] 15:08, March 5, 2007 (PST)<br />
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Congratulations from the Andronaches, as well. Magda also wants me to add that she approves of March births :) [[User:Vandrona|Vandrona]] 15:31, March 5, 2007 (PST)<br />
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Aww, wow! I wish you and especially your wife the best of luck. You're going to have your hands full, I'm sure. I can't even imagine the responsibility. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 20:34, March 5, 2007 (PST)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Thank you for help, Father. [[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 18:25, March 10, 2007,(CET)<br />
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==Julian==<br />
Ok, I admit my ignorance. Thanks for the info. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 17:23, March 12, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== I Hope I'm Doing this Right ==<br />
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Hello Fr. Andrew,<br />
We have communicated via e-mail before. In fact, I recall you asking me years ago to get involved in this site. Now that I am starting to figure out how it works I will finally try to do so.<br />
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Thanks for your kind words<br />
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[[User:Frjohnwhiteford|Frjohnwhiteford]] 16:41, March 18, 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== See the above comments ==<br />
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I finally figured out the right way. My comments above were added a longer route.<br />
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== Versions of names ==<br />
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Bless father. <br />
I am asking wich versions of names I should to use? I was using Serbian versions, because in articles abut St. Sava, St. Nikolaj etc were used Serbian versions. Now I was told to use English versions. I am confused. Literature in english uses more often Serbian versions. <br />
[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] March 20, 17:24 (CET)<br />
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== Interwiki ==<br />
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It seams that ww have problems with inter wiki on serbian page. From English to Serbian it works good but problem.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 10:20, March 27, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==images' deletion==<br />
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Dear father your blessing.<br />
returning from Mt. Athos yesterday i found your notice about the deletion of my images because of tags' lack. i'm not at all familiar with all that electronic-copyright-jargon and i'm not sure whether the corrections i did will work. i hope i'm not troubling you too much with my ignorance.<br />
may the Holy Week and Easter brings light in your family and to you personally.<br />
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yours<br />
/vassili<br />
: [[User:Vassilip|Vassilip]] 02:47, March 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Dear father<br />
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both images are personal and i have the only original copies. truly i'm not cognizant of copyright policies and i used what i thought as probably more appropriate (i used the ''commons'' one because i read i had to do it).<br />
again, i'm relly sory for all that mess.<br />
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yours indeed<br />
: [[User:Vassilip|Vassilip]] 05:08, March 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Kallistos Ware ==<br />
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I arrived at his article and was surprised to find that his elevation to Metropolitan had already been updated. Kudos.<br />
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I was at a lecture hosted by His Eminence earlier today at [http://www.gocoos.org/ Greek Orthodox Church of Our Savior] in Rye, NY. The parish priest who introduced him mentioned to the audience that "Bishop" Ware was unaware of his elevation until the priest told him upon his arrival. Thus was I bemused at reading your update. Just out of curiosity, were you at the lecture as well? One of the brother priests perhaps? (There were quite a few other priests, and even a Romanian bishop) Or did you come upon the information some other way?<br />
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[[User:Hellenica|Hellenica]] 20:59, March 31, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Capthca for registration ==<br />
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I see you guys are having the same problem as what I also want to deal with on our site. See: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Captcha_extensions<br />
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As they claim, Capcha at account creation would prevent these spam bots. --[[User:JohnK|JohnK]] 06:47, April 11, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Re: Thank you! ==<br />
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Christ Is Risen! Thank you very much, Father Andrew, for your kind words. Yours in Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 09:01, April 13, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Article Titles==<br />
Father Andrew,<br />
I have been working on articles concerning Irene, wife of Leo IV, and Theodora, wife of Theophilus. I am about ready to post them on Orthodoxwiki, but I need good titles for the articles. To avoid too much work establishing titles on the web, I've sought your opinion as you have done so well in maintaining discipline of styles among all our articles. I find identifying many saints confusing with many of the saints having different titles applied to them. <br />
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I notice that Wikipedia uses title of their names and a century when they lived, to avoid similarities with other Irenes and Theodoras. These seem bland, but I haven't found any Orthodox source on the web that provides distinct identification for these saints! I noticed in some edits you made to Orthodoxwiki articles that you seem to follow the Wikipedia practice. The Orthodox church sites haven't been any help. <br />
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Following the practice of Theodora (Justinian's wife) does not appear reasonable for Irene or Theodora as their husbands were "Iconoclasts". <br />
For Irene, many if not a majority of the sites identify Irene as "Irene of Athens". I have been thinking of using this as a title for her. Another could be "Irene the Iconodule or Iconophile". For Theodora the Iconodule/iconophile would fit nicely.<br />
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Your comments and suggestions are solicited.<br />
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In passing I notice Irene's feast day does not appear on the calendar of saints, August 9 . An Irene appears for August 13, but after some investiagation this saint appears to be a "Princess of Constantinople-tonsured Xenia with a date of 1124". This confused me for a while!<br />
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Bill Kosar[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 15:00, April 15, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Father. I think we are on the same path.[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 18:13, April 15, 2007 (PDT)<br />
==?????Licensing==<br />
What is going on? I just noticed that you changed the license agreement from being able to export to not being able to export? Right after I quoted it for the exports to Wikipedia I did this morning. What or who grants licensing for Orthodox wiki and how do I get in touch with them? Also what part makes the dual license incompatible and doesn't that violate using the wiki engine?<br />
[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] 13:02, April 24, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: 1. The wiki engine has nothing to do with licensing. It's just a piece of software.<br />
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: 2. I just clarified the existing terms more explicitly, since I saw that there was some disagreement going on over at Wikipedia on the subject.<br />
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: 3. Licensing on OrthodoxWiki was defined by the administration within the first year of its inception. It is unlikely to be changed at this point, since so many edits here have been contributed under its terms. (This same message is being posted on your talk page.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:10, April 24, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
Thanks for the welcome, and thanks for helping us sort out the copyright mess over at wikipedia. -- [[User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid]] 09:18, April 25, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Deletions ==<br />
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'''Thanks''' I see your following right behind me. I would delete them myself, but... I'm glad that you're apparently patrolling Special:Recentchanges. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] 16:18, May 2, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==el.orthodox.org==<br />
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Fistly, I'd like to thank you for your answer. Secondly, if I've undestood well your explanation, I should propose [[:el:User:kostisl]] appointed for host -if he wishes. He has already done excellent work on Orthodoxy in greek wikipedia, and he is the proper person I thing for this kind of job. I wish you the best--[[User:Kalogeropoulos|Kalogeropoulos]] 06:22, May 25, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== You dont like it when people edit your articles!! ==<br />
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Ive noticed, Father Andrew, that you dont like it when people edit your articles. you get pissy and then re-edit them back to their old and most times INACURATE form. How are you supposed to help this site if you cant put your own ignorant biases??<br />
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Shame on you!! {{unsigned|Fredthomzac}}<br />
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: Well, none of the articles on OrthodoxWiki are "my" articles. I presume this note is regarding the [[Church of Estonia]] article. I've addressed this both on your talk page and at the talk page for the article. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 17:43, May 30, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Greetings! ==<br />
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Dear Fr. Andrew,<br />
Thank you for the greetings. I'll send your regards if ever I will meet him.<br />
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[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 03:19, May 31, 2007 (PDT) <br />
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Fr. Andrew wrote:<br />
Hello! I don't know if you know Archimandrite Philemon (Castro), but in case you do, I wanted to pass on greetings to him. He and I were in seminary together at St. Tikhon's for two years.<br />
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== Not just a Comment on a Talk Page ==<br />
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Dear Father,<br />
The allegation that the Episcopal seat of the Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia is "VACANT" was not merely "a comment on a talk page". This allegation was "incorporated" into the article by a certain Marcus (an Orthodox from the Philippines, a former ROCOR member) and he wrote:<br />
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"The '''Episcopacy is currently vacant as of March, 2007''' and may be abolished pending the decision of the Holy and Sacred Synod of Constantinople."<br />
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- User MARCUS Revision as of 08:56, May 4, 2007<br />
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Please see: <br />
[http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&oldid=50808] User MARCUS Revision on May 04, 2007 in OMHKSEA "Episcopacy".<br />
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[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 09:48, June 2, 2007 (PDT) <br />
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Fr. Andrew wrote:<br />
...and, in any event, it's just a comment on a talk page. It wasn't even incorporated into the article. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 05:24, May 30, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Let's Hope ==<br />
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Dear Father,<br />
Certain individual/s are out to create confusion in the minds of faithful members belonging to the '''canonical''' Orthodox jurisdictions. Let's hope they will stop spreading lies and rumors.<br />
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[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 20:51, June 2, 2007 (PDT) <br />
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''Fr. Andrew wrote'': Regarding your recent comment: Sorry about that. When I looked at the article, that edit had already been changed, so all I saw was the talk page comment. My mistake. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 10:45, June 2, 2007 (PDT) <br />
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Retrieved from "http://orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:Filipino"</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ASDamick&diff=52376User talk:ASDamick2007-06-02T16:48:28Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (Dec. 18, 2004 - June 17, 2005)<br />
* [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] (July 5, 2005 - Dec. 15, 2005)<br />
* [[/Archive 3|Archive 3]] (Dec. 23, 2005 - Aug. 2, 2006)<br />
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== Baby ==<br />
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Congratulations to you both! We are expecting our little baby girl in mid-October 2006. We might have to swap tips! [[User:Joe Rodgers|&#123;&#123;User:Joe Rodgers/sig}}]] 23:48, August 5, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Working on Bishop Basil entry ==<br />
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Dear ASDamick,<br />
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Thank you for your recent changes to the article on [[Basil (Osborne) of Amphipolis]]. I'm glad to see us working on this text together. I would like to see it accurately and dispassionately reflect the full state of affairs surrounding this bishop. I think that most of your revisions to my recent update of the text have been very helpful - again, my many thanks for them.<br />
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A few points that I think still need some further consideration:<br />
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* ''Title:'' The title 'Bishop of Amphipolis' is contested, and highly controversial. It doesn't seem appropriate for the OrthodoxWiki article on the bishop to take a definitive side one way or the other on this matter. I had altered the text to address this, which you refined nicely. However, I do think it appopriate that the issue is left relatively open, by simply referring to him as 'Bishop Basil' in most cases (e.g. in the caption under the photograph). The title of the article gives him the title 'Bishop of Amphipolis' already, which points things in a certain reading; but I think we need to be wary of giving 'our own blessing' to a matter that is disputed amongst the patriarchates.<br />
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* ''Nature of the bishop's retirement:'' I've corrected the paragraph on the nature of the bishop's forced retirement. This was not made because he sought reception in the EP, but because he sought to do so preemptorily, without canonical release and order.<br />
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* ''Title in summary box:'' In line with my point above on the bishop's title, I think it is only fair / accurate to return the small footnote qualifier on the title in the summary box at the bottom. Not to do so seems to claim, in the article, that the matter is disputed and open, only to go on in the summary information to present it as a closed/decided issue. I think in fairness to the actual situation, this small flag is warranted and not in itself a bias (cf. for example the summary boxes on autocephalous churches on Wikipedia, where a small asterisk is used next to churches whose autocephaly is disputed by some).<br />
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I've made edits to the article this morning to account for the above points; I hope they're in general things you approve of (I've made them as separate edits, so you can see the progression).<br />
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--[[User:Antonios aigyptos|Antonios]] 07:08, August 6, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Edit count ==<br />
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''"I'm currently in the lead and hoping I hit 10,000 first. (There's probably no prize, though.)"''<br />
:I think we should throw a party. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]<br />
::Seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof ? [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]<br />
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==Bp [[Thomas (Joseph) of Oakland]]==<br />
Thanks for responding to the issue on my talk page; I fear that, in the mood I was in, my response would have been somewhat less than an exhibition of perfect charity. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 07:13, August 14, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Byzantine response to OCA autocephaly ==<br />
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The bullet lists in [[Byzantine response to OCA autocephaly]]: Are they simply listing every single argument made by the Byzantine churches against OCA autocephaly? Because this one really boggles the mind:<br />
" * Moscow's act is an attempt to extend Soviet influence into America. "<br />
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This was perhaps tossed out by someone, somewhere, at some time, in an effort to amass as many objections as possible, but it clearly has no bearing whatsoever on the current state of affairs (as the rest of the article appears to). I'm not going to edit it quit yet (since you put it in there), but a footnote or an external link might be appropriate. Otherwise, it's completely spurious except as a historical curiosity which has clearly proven to be laughable.<br />
--[[User:Basil|Basil]] 16:16, August 14, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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:I agree that documentation would be helpful. Historical arguments would be useful to keep in, as they do give some perspective on the historical relations between the two jurisdictions. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]<br />
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==Return==<br />
A nice, subtle change that has not gone unnoticed. I look forward to your inactive partication! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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Welcome back, Deacon Andrew. I missed your discipline on keeping a consistent format for the articles. I mean this sincerely as I looked forward to your catching my "typos". It had kept me on the 'ball' but I still needed a good editor. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 13:57, October 9, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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==Congrats==<br />
I see you signed your last contribution "Father Andrew." Congratulations on your ordination! [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 22:31, October 30, 2006 (CST)<br />
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== corrupted letters ==<br />
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In editing the page [[Timeline of Church History]] with minor edits, the link you added [[bg:Времева лини�? на църковната и�?тори�?]] became corrupted. I would fix it, but the corrupted letters do not display on any of my browsers even if I look at the history. - [[User:Andrew|Andrew]] 10:04, November 7, 2006 (PST)<br />
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:AFAIK, this is a known issue with an upgrade to MySQL 5. I'm not enough of a whiz to fix the problem, and the damage is minimal, so we'll have to do it manually... Sorry! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Interwiki ==<br />
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Hi dear Father, I was leaving off the extra interwiki links for the Mian page until the additional localizations are ready for "Beta" stage, by which I mean that all the necessary documents have been translated... The "release" stage will then be when there are strong enough communities and moderation around these wikis to really launch them - i.e content and spam problems are dealt with quickly. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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==Metaxakis entry==<br />
Dear Father,<br />
Thank you for pointing out the issues of NPOV and MCB with the last edit I had entered. Of course I agree with having those standards for an encylopedic entry and I would like to see a better product along the lines you suggest. However I do have a few comments if i may.<br />
* I feel that the substance of what was written - about the agenda of the Pan Orthodox Congress of 1923 - actually was accurate and unbiased; after all history is history, and if those were the subjects that were tabled at that congress, it is a matter of history and a very important matter at that, and information which every Orthodox Christian today has a right to be informed and aware of. Im sure you agree that to simply list the items of the agenda as they were, is, I think is a neutral approach ''(i.e. "here is what what was proposed in 1923: 1, 2, 3, 4,..etc, in fact seven changes in all.)'' Not sure how else to word that part of it, it is what it is; some subjects such as this particular example, may not be neutral in themselves, and for us to attempt to make them so or omit them risks the error of creating our own modern bias instead, a risk every historian is aware of. The writing of history must be impartial, whether the historical facts in themselves are or arent impartial to us is another matter. I agree that the source timeline that I located the information on would be NPOV/MCB, however as for the information in itself, it is either factual or it is isn't (fabricated)....in other words there was no editing or personal opinions presented with that list, just the list of proposals in 1923 itself . And I remember seeing a similar list of items (from the 1923 congress) years ago on an OCA site, which I cannot find now. And so for this reason I believe it is necessary and important to have this part included for the complete and unbiased picture.<br />
* As for the second section I had entered (comparative study), which included a link to a site which detailed things about Metaxakis' early Masonic involvement right down to his troubled death, yes it too did not come from a MCB site, and that will need to be re-worked as you commented, perhaps with more research from other sources; but it too presented disturbing details, which in themselves were by nature * not neutral * (i.e. if he attained 33rd degree in 1909 that's important; if he was buried with Masonic honours in 1935 that fact too is important). It is doubtful how much other written research exists on this subject, at least in English. <br />
At any rate I appreciate the direction. Would be interested in what you think. Cheers,<br />
Chris.<br />
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== Thanks and congrats ==<br />
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Dear Father, thank you for your friendly welcoming and congratulations for your ordination! --[[User:Cat68|Cat68]] 08:55, February 16, 2007 (PST)<br />
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== HC invasion ==<br />
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Yes, indeed, we have descended. Our social ethics project has been, basically, to make sure that there were articles written for just about every article under the Ethics section. This is the first phase, followed by a review by the professor, after which you can expect changes to these articles (whether or not they've been worked on by other people in the mean time). [[User:Vandrona|Vandrona]]<br />
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== Baby ==<br />
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Congrat's on the birth of your first child!--[[User:AKCGY|AKCGY]] 15:08, March 5, 2007 (PST)<br />
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Congratulations from the Andronaches, as well. Magda also wants me to add that she approves of March births :) [[User:Vandrona|Vandrona]] 15:31, March 5, 2007 (PST)<br />
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Aww, wow! I wish you and especially your wife the best of luck. You're going to have your hands full, I'm sure. I can't even imagine the responsibility. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 20:34, March 5, 2007 (PST)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Thank you for help, Father. [[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 18:25, March 10, 2007,(CET)<br />
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==Julian==<br />
Ok, I admit my ignorance. Thanks for the info. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 17:23, March 12, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== I Hope I'm Doing this Right ==<br />
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Hello Fr. Andrew,<br />
We have communicated via e-mail before. In fact, I recall you asking me years ago to get involved in this site. Now that I am starting to figure out how it works I will finally try to do so.<br />
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Thanks for your kind words<br />
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[[User:Frjohnwhiteford|Frjohnwhiteford]] 16:41, March 18, 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== See the above comments ==<br />
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I finally figured out the right way. My comments above were added a longer route.<br />
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== Versions of names ==<br />
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Bless father. <br />
I am asking wich versions of names I should to use? I was using Serbian versions, because in articles abut St. Sava, St. Nikolaj etc were used Serbian versions. Now I was told to use English versions. I am confused. Literature in english uses more often Serbian versions. <br />
[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] March 20, 17:24 (CET)<br />
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== Interwiki ==<br />
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It seams that ww have problems with inter wiki on serbian page. From English to Serbian it works good but problem.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 10:20, March 27, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==images' deletion==<br />
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Dear father your blessing.<br />
returning from Mt. Athos yesterday i found your notice about the deletion of my images because of tags' lack. i'm not at all familiar with all that electronic-copyright-jargon and i'm not sure whether the corrections i did will work. i hope i'm not troubling you too much with my ignorance.<br />
may the Holy Week and Easter brings light in your family and to you personally.<br />
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yours<br />
/vassili<br />
: [[User:Vassilip|Vassilip]] 02:47, March 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Dear father<br />
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both images are personal and i have the only original copies. truly i'm not cognizant of copyright policies and i used what i thought as probably more appropriate (i used the ''commons'' one because i read i had to do it).<br />
again, i'm relly sory for all that mess.<br />
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yours indeed<br />
: [[User:Vassilip|Vassilip]] 05:08, March 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Kallistos Ware ==<br />
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I arrived at his article and was surprised to find that his elevation to Metropolitan had already been updated. Kudos.<br />
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I was at a lecture hosted by His Eminence earlier today at [http://www.gocoos.org/ Greek Orthodox Church of Our Savior] in Rye, NY. The parish priest who introduced him mentioned to the audience that "Bishop" Ware was unaware of his elevation until the priest told him upon his arrival. Thus was I bemused at reading your update. Just out of curiosity, were you at the lecture as well? One of the brother priests perhaps? (There were quite a few other priests, and even a Romanian bishop) Or did you come upon the information some other way?<br />
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[[User:Hellenica|Hellenica]] 20:59, March 31, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Capthca for registration ==<br />
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I see you guys are having the same problem as what I also want to deal with on our site. See: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Captcha_extensions<br />
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As they claim, Capcha at account creation would prevent these spam bots. --[[User:JohnK|JohnK]] 06:47, April 11, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Re: Thank you! ==<br />
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Christ Is Risen! Thank you very much, Father Andrew, for your kind words. Yours in Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 09:01, April 13, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Article Titles==<br />
Father Andrew,<br />
I have been working on articles concerning Irene, wife of Leo IV, and Theodora, wife of Theophilus. I am about ready to post them on Orthodoxwiki, but I need good titles for the articles. To avoid too much work establishing titles on the web, I've sought your opinion as you have done so well in maintaining discipline of styles among all our articles. I find identifying many saints confusing with many of the saints having different titles applied to them. <br />
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I notice that Wikipedia uses title of their names and a century when they lived, to avoid similarities with other Irenes and Theodoras. These seem bland, but I haven't found any Orthodox source on the web that provides distinct identification for these saints! I noticed in some edits you made to Orthodoxwiki articles that you seem to follow the Wikipedia practice. The Orthodox church sites haven't been any help. <br />
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Following the practice of Theodora (Justinian's wife) does not appear reasonable for Irene or Theodora as their husbands were "Iconoclasts". <br />
For Irene, many if not a majority of the sites identify Irene as "Irene of Athens". I have been thinking of using this as a title for her. Another could be "Irene the Iconodule or Iconophile". For Theodora the Iconodule/iconophile would fit nicely.<br />
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Your comments and suggestions are solicited.<br />
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In passing I notice Irene's feast day does not appear on the calendar of saints, August 9 . An Irene appears for August 13, but after some investiagation this saint appears to be a "Princess of Constantinople-tonsured Xenia with a date of 1124". This confused me for a while!<br />
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Bill Kosar[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 15:00, April 15, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Father. I think we are on the same path.[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 18:13, April 15, 2007 (PDT)<br />
==?????Licensing==<br />
What is going on? I just noticed that you changed the license agreement from being able to export to not being able to export? Right after I quoted it for the exports to Wikipedia I did this morning. What or who grants licensing for Orthodox wiki and how do I get in touch with them? Also what part makes the dual license incompatible and doesn't that violate using the wiki engine?<br />
[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] 13:02, April 24, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: 1. The wiki engine has nothing to do with licensing. It's just a piece of software.<br />
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: 2. I just clarified the existing terms more explicitly, since I saw that there was some disagreement going on over at Wikipedia on the subject.<br />
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: 3. Licensing on OrthodoxWiki was defined by the administration within the first year of its inception. It is unlikely to be changed at this point, since so many edits here have been contributed under its terms. (This same message is being posted on your talk page.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:10, April 24, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
Thanks for the welcome, and thanks for helping us sort out the copyright mess over at wikipedia. -- [[User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid]] 09:18, April 25, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Deletions ==<br />
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'''Thanks''' I see your following right behind me. I would delete them myself, but... I'm glad that you're apparently patrolling Special:Recentchanges. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] 16:18, May 2, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==el.orthodox.org==<br />
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Fistly, I'd like to thank you for your answer. Secondly, if I've undestood well your explanation, I should propose [[:el:User:kostisl]] appointed for host -if he wishes. He has already done excellent work on Orthodoxy in greek wikipedia, and he is the proper person I thing for this kind of job. I wish you the best--[[User:Kalogeropoulos|Kalogeropoulos]] 06:22, May 25, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== You dont like it when people edit your articles!! ==<br />
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Ive noticed, Father Andrew, that you dont like it when people edit your articles. you get pissy and then re-edit them back to their old and most times INACURATE form. How are you supposed to help this site if you cant put your own ignorant biases??<br />
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Shame on you!! {{unsigned|Fredthomzac}}<br />
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: Well, none of the articles on OrthodoxWiki are "my" articles. I presume this note is regarding the [[Church of Estonia]] article. I've addressed this both on your talk page and at the talk page for the article. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 17:43, May 30, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Greetings! ==<br />
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Dear Fr. Andrew,<br />
Thank you for the greetings. I'll send your regards if ever I will meet him.<br />
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[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 03:19, May 31, 2007 (PDT) <br />
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Fr. Andrew wrote:<br />
Hello! I don't know if you know Archimandrite Philemon (Castro), but in case you do, I wanted to pass on greetings to him. He and I were in seminary together at St. Tikhon's for two years.<br />
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== Not just a Comment on a Talk Page ==<br />
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Dear Father,<br />
The allegation that the Episcopal seat of the Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and South East Asia is "VACANT" was not merely "a comment on a talk page". This allegation was "incorporated" into the article by a certain Marcus (an Orthodox from the Philippines, a former ROCOR member) and he wrote:<br />
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"The '''Episcopacy is currently vacant as of March, 2007''' and may be abolished pending the decision of the Holy and Sacred Synod of Constantinople."<br />
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- User MARCUS Revision as of 08:56, May 4, 2007<br />
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Please see: <br />
[http://orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&oldid=50808] User MARCUS Revision on May 04, 2007 in OMHKSEA "Episcopacy".<br />
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[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 09:48, June 2, 2007 (PDT) <br />
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Fr. Andrew wrote:<br />
...and, in any event, it's just a comment on a talk page. It wasn't even incorporated into the article. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs 05:24, May 30, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ASDamick&diff=52119User talk:ASDamick2007-05-31T10:19:39Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (Dec. 18, 2004 - June 17, 2005)<br />
* [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] (July 5, 2005 - Dec. 15, 2005)<br />
* [[/Archive 3|Archive 3]] (Dec. 23, 2005 - Aug. 2, 2006)<br />
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== Baby ==<br />
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Congratulations to you both! We are expecting our little baby girl in mid-October 2006. We might have to swap tips! [[User:Joe Rodgers|&#123;&#123;User:Joe Rodgers/sig}}]] 23:48, August 5, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Working on Bishop Basil entry ==<br />
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Dear ASDamick,<br />
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Thank you for your recent changes to the article on [[Basil (Osborne) of Amphipolis]]. I'm glad to see us working on this text together. I would like to see it accurately and dispassionately reflect the full state of affairs surrounding this bishop. I think that most of your revisions to my recent update of the text have been very helpful - again, my many thanks for them.<br />
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A few points that I think still need some further consideration:<br />
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* ''Title:'' The title 'Bishop of Amphipolis' is contested, and highly controversial. It doesn't seem appropriate for the OrthodoxWiki article on the bishop to take a definitive side one way or the other on this matter. I had altered the text to address this, which you refined nicely. However, I do think it appopriate that the issue is left relatively open, by simply referring to him as 'Bishop Basil' in most cases (e.g. in the caption under the photograph). The title of the article gives him the title 'Bishop of Amphipolis' already, which points things in a certain reading; but I think we need to be wary of giving 'our own blessing' to a matter that is disputed amongst the patriarchates.<br />
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* ''Nature of the bishop's retirement:'' I've corrected the paragraph on the nature of the bishop's forced retirement. This was not made because he sought reception in the EP, but because he sought to do so preemptorily, without canonical release and order.<br />
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* ''Title in summary box:'' In line with my point above on the bishop's title, I think it is only fair / accurate to return the small footnote qualifier on the title in the summary box at the bottom. Not to do so seems to claim, in the article, that the matter is disputed and open, only to go on in the summary information to present it as a closed/decided issue. I think in fairness to the actual situation, this small flag is warranted and not in itself a bias (cf. for example the summary boxes on autocephalous churches on Wikipedia, where a small asterisk is used next to churches whose autocephaly is disputed by some).<br />
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I've made edits to the article this morning to account for the above points; I hope they're in general things you approve of (I've made them as separate edits, so you can see the progression).<br />
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--[[User:Antonios aigyptos|Antonios]] 07:08, August 6, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Edit count ==<br />
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''"I'm currently in the lead and hoping I hit 10,000 first. (There's probably no prize, though.)"''<br />
:I think we should throw a party. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]<br />
::Seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof ? [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]<br />
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==Bp [[Thomas (Joseph) of Oakland]]==<br />
Thanks for responding to the issue on my talk page; I fear that, in the mood I was in, my response would have been somewhat less than an exhibition of perfect charity. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="green">Pιs</font><font color="gold">τévο</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Pistevo/dev/null|<font color="red">complaints</font>]]''</sup> at 07:13, August 14, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Byzantine response to OCA autocephaly ==<br />
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The bullet lists in [[Byzantine response to OCA autocephaly]]: Are they simply listing every single argument made by the Byzantine churches against OCA autocephaly? Because this one really boggles the mind:<br />
" * Moscow's act is an attempt to extend Soviet influence into America. "<br />
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This was perhaps tossed out by someone, somewhere, at some time, in an effort to amass as many objections as possible, but it clearly has no bearing whatsoever on the current state of affairs (as the rest of the article appears to). I'm not going to edit it quit yet (since you put it in there), but a footnote or an external link might be appropriate. Otherwise, it's completely spurious except as a historical curiosity which has clearly proven to be laughable.<br />
--[[User:Basil|Basil]] 16:16, August 14, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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:I agree that documentation would be helpful. Historical arguments would be useful to keep in, as they do give some perspective on the historical relations between the two jurisdictions. [[User:FrJohn|Fr. John]]<br />
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==Return==<br />
A nice, subtle change that has not gone unnoticed. I look forward to your inactive partication! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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Welcome back, Deacon Andrew. I missed your discipline on keeping a consistent format for the articles. I mean this sincerely as I looked forward to your catching my "typos". It had kept me on the 'ball' but I still needed a good editor. [[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 13:57, October 9, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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==Congrats==<br />
I see you signed your last contribution "Father Andrew." Congratulations on your ordination! [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 22:31, October 30, 2006 (CST)<br />
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== corrupted letters ==<br />
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In editing the page [[Timeline of Church History]] with minor edits, the link you added [[bg:Времева лини�? на църковната и�?тори�?]] became corrupted. I would fix it, but the corrupted letters do not display on any of my browsers even if I look at the history. - [[User:Andrew|Andrew]] 10:04, November 7, 2006 (PST)<br />
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:AFAIK, this is a known issue with an upgrade to MySQL 5. I'm not enough of a whiz to fix the problem, and the damage is minimal, so we'll have to do it manually... Sorry! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== Interwiki ==<br />
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Hi dear Father, I was leaving off the extra interwiki links for the Mian page until the additional localizations are ready for "Beta" stage, by which I mean that all the necessary documents have been translated... The "release" stage will then be when there are strong enough communities and moderation around these wikis to really launch them - i.e content and spam problems are dealt with quickly. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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==Metaxakis entry==<br />
Dear Father,<br />
Thank you for pointing out the issues of NPOV and MCB with the last edit I had entered. Of course I agree with having those standards for an encylopedic entry and I would like to see a better product along the lines you suggest. However I do have a few comments if i may.<br />
* I feel that the substance of what was written - about the agenda of the Pan Orthodox Congress of 1923 - actually was accurate and unbiased; after all history is history, and if those were the subjects that were tabled at that congress, it is a matter of history and a very important matter at that, and information which every Orthodox Christian today has a right to be informed and aware of. Im sure you agree that to simply list the items of the agenda as they were, is, I think is a neutral approach ''(i.e. "here is what what was proposed in 1923: 1, 2, 3, 4,..etc, in fact seven changes in all.)'' Not sure how else to word that part of it, it is what it is; some subjects such as this particular example, may not be neutral in themselves, and for us to attempt to make them so or omit them risks the error of creating our own modern bias instead, a risk every historian is aware of. The writing of history must be impartial, whether the historical facts in themselves are or arent impartial to us is another matter. I agree that the source timeline that I located the information on would be NPOV/MCB, however as for the information in itself, it is either factual or it is isn't (fabricated)....in other words there was no editing or personal opinions presented with that list, just the list of proposals in 1923 itself . And I remember seeing a similar list of items (from the 1923 congress) years ago on an OCA site, which I cannot find now. And so for this reason I believe it is necessary and important to have this part included for the complete and unbiased picture.<br />
* As for the second section I had entered (comparative study), which included a link to a site which detailed things about Metaxakis' early Masonic involvement right down to his troubled death, yes it too did not come from a MCB site, and that will need to be re-worked as you commented, perhaps with more research from other sources; but it too presented disturbing details, which in themselves were by nature * not neutral * (i.e. if he attained 33rd degree in 1909 that's important; if he was buried with Masonic honours in 1935 that fact too is important). It is doubtful how much other written research exists on this subject, at least in English. <br />
At any rate I appreciate the direction. Would be interested in what you think. Cheers,<br />
Chris.<br />
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== Thanks and congrats ==<br />
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Dear Father, thank you for your friendly welcoming and congratulations for your ordination! --[[User:Cat68|Cat68]] 08:55, February 16, 2007 (PST)<br />
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== HC invasion ==<br />
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Yes, indeed, we have descended. Our social ethics project has been, basically, to make sure that there were articles written for just about every article under the Ethics section. This is the first phase, followed by a review by the professor, after which you can expect changes to these articles (whether or not they've been worked on by other people in the mean time). [[User:Vandrona|Vandrona]]<br />
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== Baby ==<br />
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Congrat's on the birth of your first child!--[[User:AKCGY|AKCGY]] 15:08, March 5, 2007 (PST)<br />
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Congratulations from the Andronaches, as well. Magda also wants me to add that she approves of March births :) [[User:Vandrona|Vandrona]] 15:31, March 5, 2007 (PST)<br />
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Aww, wow! I wish you and especially your wife the best of luck. You're going to have your hands full, I'm sure. I can't even imagine the responsibility. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 20:34, March 5, 2007 (PST)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Thank you for help, Father. [[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 18:25, March 10, 2007,(CET)<br />
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==Julian==<br />
Ok, I admit my ignorance. Thanks for the info. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 17:23, March 12, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== I Hope I'm Doing this Right ==<br />
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Hello Fr. Andrew,<br />
We have communicated via e-mail before. In fact, I recall you asking me years ago to get involved in this site. Now that I am starting to figure out how it works I will finally try to do so.<br />
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Thanks for your kind words<br />
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[[User:Frjohnwhiteford|Frjohnwhiteford]] 16:41, March 18, 2007 (CDT)<br />
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== See the above comments ==<br />
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I finally figured out the right way. My comments above were added a longer route.<br />
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== Versions of names ==<br />
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Bless father. <br />
I am asking wich versions of names I should to use? I was using Serbian versions, because in articles abut St. Sava, St. Nikolaj etc were used Serbian versions. Now I was told to use English versions. I am confused. Literature in english uses more often Serbian versions. <br />
[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] March 20, 17:24 (CET)<br />
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== Interwiki ==<br />
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It seams that ww have problems with inter wiki on serbian page. From English to Serbian it works good but problem.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 10:20, March 27, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==images' deletion==<br />
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Dear father your blessing.<br />
returning from Mt. Athos yesterday i found your notice about the deletion of my images because of tags' lack. i'm not at all familiar with all that electronic-copyright-jargon and i'm not sure whether the corrections i did will work. i hope i'm not troubling you too much with my ignorance.<br />
may the Holy Week and Easter brings light in your family and to you personally.<br />
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yours<br />
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: [[User:Vassilip|Vassilip]] 02:47, March 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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Dear father<br />
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both images are personal and i have the only original copies. truly i'm not cognizant of copyright policies and i used what i thought as probably more appropriate (i used the ''commons'' one because i read i had to do it).<br />
again, i'm relly sory for all that mess.<br />
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yours indeed<br />
: [[User:Vassilip|Vassilip]] 05:08, March 29, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Kallistos Ware ==<br />
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I arrived at his article and was surprised to find that his elevation to Metropolitan had already been updated. Kudos.<br />
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I was at a lecture hosted by His Eminence earlier today at [http://www.gocoos.org/ Greek Orthodox Church of Our Savior] in Rye, NY. The parish priest who introduced him mentioned to the audience that "Bishop" Ware was unaware of his elevation until the priest told him upon his arrival. Thus was I bemused at reading your update. Just out of curiosity, were you at the lecture as well? One of the brother priests perhaps? (There were quite a few other priests, and even a Romanian bishop) Or did you come upon the information some other way?<br />
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[[User:Hellenica|Hellenica]] 20:59, March 31, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Capthca for registration ==<br />
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I see you guys are having the same problem as what I also want to deal with on our site. See: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Captcha_extensions<br />
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As they claim, Capcha at account creation would prevent these spam bots. --[[User:JohnK|JohnK]] 06:47, April 11, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Re: Thank you! ==<br />
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Christ Is Risen! Thank you very much, Father Andrew, for your kind words. Yours in Christ, --[[User:Arbible|Arbible]] 09:01, April 13, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Article Titles==<br />
Father Andrew,<br />
I have been working on articles concerning Irene, wife of Leo IV, and Theodora, wife of Theophilus. I am about ready to post them on Orthodoxwiki, but I need good titles for the articles. To avoid too much work establishing titles on the web, I've sought your opinion as you have done so well in maintaining discipline of styles among all our articles. I find identifying many saints confusing with many of the saints having different titles applied to them. <br />
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I notice that Wikipedia uses title of their names and a century when they lived, to avoid similarities with other Irenes and Theodoras. These seem bland, but I haven't found any Orthodox source on the web that provides distinct identification for these saints! I noticed in some edits you made to Orthodoxwiki articles that you seem to follow the Wikipedia practice. The Orthodox church sites haven't been any help. <br />
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Following the practice of Theodora (Justinian's wife) does not appear reasonable for Irene or Theodora as their husbands were "Iconoclasts". <br />
For Irene, many if not a majority of the sites identify Irene as "Irene of Athens". I have been thinking of using this as a title for her. Another could be "Irene the Iconodule or Iconophile". For Theodora the Iconodule/iconophile would fit nicely.<br />
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Your comments and suggestions are solicited.<br />
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In passing I notice Irene's feast day does not appear on the calendar of saints, August 9 . An Irene appears for August 13, but after some investiagation this saint appears to be a "Princess of Constantinople-tonsured Xenia with a date of 1124". This confused me for a while!<br />
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Bill Kosar[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 15:00, April 15, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Father. I think we are on the same path.[[User:Wsk|Wsk]] 18:13, April 15, 2007 (PDT)<br />
==?????Licensing==<br />
What is going on? I just noticed that you changed the license agreement from being able to export to not being able to export? Right after I quoted it for the exports to Wikipedia I did this morning. What or who grants licensing for Orthodox wiki and how do I get in touch with them? Also what part makes the dual license incompatible and doesn't that violate using the wiki engine?<br />
[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] 13:02, April 24, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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: 1. The wiki engine has nothing to do with licensing. It's just a piece of software.<br />
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: 2. I just clarified the existing terms more explicitly, since I saw that there was some disagreement going on over at Wikipedia on the subject.<br />
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: 3. Licensing on OrthodoxWiki was defined by the administration within the first year of its inception. It is unlikely to be changed at this point, since so many edits here have been contributed under its terms. (This same message is being posted on your talk page.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 14:10, April 24, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
Thanks for the welcome, and thanks for helping us sort out the copyright mess over at wikipedia. -- [[User:Pastordavid|Pastordavid]] 09:18, April 25, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Deletions ==<br />
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'''Thanks''' I see your following right behind me. I would delete them myself, but... I'm glad that you're apparently patrolling Special:Recentchanges. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] 16:18, May 2, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==el.orthodox.org==<br />
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Fistly, I'd like to thank you for your answer. Secondly, if I've undestood well your explanation, I should propose [[:el:User:kostisl]] appointed for host -if he wishes. He has already done excellent work on Orthodoxy in greek wikipedia, and he is the proper person I thing for this kind of job. I wish you the best--[[User:Kalogeropoulos|Kalogeropoulos]] 06:22, May 25, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== You dont like it when people edit your articles!! ==<br />
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Ive noticed, Father Andrew, that you dont like it when people edit your articles. you get pissy and then re-edit them back to their old and most times INACURATE form. How are you supposed to help this site if you cant put your own ignorant biases??<br />
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Shame on you!! {{unsigned|Fredthomzac}}<br />
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: Well, none of the articles on OrthodoxWiki are "my" articles. I presume this note is regarding the [[Church of Estonia]] article. I've addressed this both on your talk page and at the talk page for the article. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 17:43, May 30, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Greetings! ==<br />
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Dear Fr. Andrew,<br />
Thank you for the greetings. I'll send your regards if ever I will meet him.<br />
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[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 03:19, May 31, 2007 (PDT) <br />
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Fr. Andrew wrote:<br />
Hello! I don't know if you know Archimandrite Philemon (Castro), but in case you do, I wanted to pass on greetings to him. He and I were in seminary together at St. Tikhon's for two years.</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=51971Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-05-30T11:19:29Z<p>Filipino: /* External links */ Added a Link to the Orthodox Church in Indonesia (Ecumenical Patriarchate)</p>
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The '''Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia''', headquartered in Hong Kong, is an [[eparchy]] of the [[Church of Constantinople]]. Its current [[bishop]] is His Eminence [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]], [[Metropolitan]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, which includes Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.<br />
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territory=Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan|<br />
language=English, Greek, other native languages|<br />
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**Archimandrite [[Daniel (Toyne)]] is the sole priest in Singapore<br />
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** [http://www.geocities.com/orthodoxchurchsg Holy Resurrection Orthodox Church] in Singapore.<br />
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** [http://www.orthodox.com.tw/ Holy Trinity Orthodox Church] in Taiwan.<br />
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** [http://www.psoc-cal.org/ Philanthropic Society of the Orthodox Church - Calcutta].<br />
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[[Category:Orthodoxy in China]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Filipino&diff=51960User:Filipino2007-05-30T03:52:55Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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Hello to everyone! I am John, a chrismated member of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines (Exarchate of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the Philippines).<br />
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Where is the '''Official Announcement" from the Ecumenical Patriarchate that the see is vacant?<br />
[[User:Filipino|Filipino]]<br />
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==Vacant See==<br />
In March of 2007, Metropolitan Nikitas was appointed Director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute and has relocated to California. See http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/metropolitannikitasbio.html and also the Press Release at http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/files/NikitasRelease.doc {{unsigned|Stmitrophan}}<br />
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:Why write '''"VACANT"'''? Who told you so? This is an undocumented claim. There is no '''official announcement''' yet coming from the Office of the Ecumenical Patriarchate that the Episcopal seat of '''OMHKSEA''' is '''"VACANT"'''. Let us wait for further '''OFFICIAL''' announcement before jumping into conclusion based on '''CONJECTURES''' and bad '''RUMORS'''.<br />
: -[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] at 11:35, June 30, 2006<br />
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==Episcopacy==<br />
This section is usually for the bishop of a particular see. However, this metropolis has so many exarchates that I thought it best to include the chief priests for each exarchate. This does not mean, however, that every priest should be listed - this should be done in on the OMHKSEA website, or at the most (and the need is ''very'' dubious), in its own article. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="red">Pι</font>]][[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]][[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="yellow">τ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]][[User:Pistevo|<font color="blue">vο</font>]] at 23:19, July 15, 2006 (CDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=51956Talk:Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-05-30T03:34:51Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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Why write '''"VACANT"'''? Who told you so? This is an undocumented claim. There is no '''official announcement''' yet coming from the Office of the Ecumenical Patriarchate that the Episcopal seat of '''OMHKSEA''' is '''"VACANT"'''. Let us wait for further '''OFFICIAL''' announcement before jumping into conclusion based on '''CONJECTURES''' and bad '''RUMORS'''.<br />
-[[User:Filipino|Filipino]] at 11:35, June 30, 2006<br />
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==Vacant See==<br />
In March of 2007, Metropolitan Nikitas was appointed Director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute and has relocated to California. See http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/metropolitannikitasbio.html and also the Press Release at http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/files/NikitasRelease.doc<br />
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==Episcopacy==<br />
This section is usually for the bishop of a particular see. However, this metropolis has so many exarchates that I thought it best to include the chief priests for each exarchate. This does not mean, however, that every priest should be listed - this should be done in on the OMHKSEA website, or at the most (and the need is ''very'' dubious), in its own article. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="red">Pι</font>]][[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]][[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="yellow">τ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]][[User:Pistevo|<font color="blue">vο</font>]] at 23:19, July 15, 2006 (CDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=51955Talk:Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-05-30T03:29:46Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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In March of 2007, Metropolitan Nikitas was appointed Director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute and has relocated to California. See http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/metropolitannikitasbio.html and also the Press Release at http://www.orthodoxinstitute.org/files/NikitasRelease.doc<br />
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==Episcopacy==<br />
This section is usually for the bishop of a particular see. However, this metropolis has so many exarchates that I thought it best to include the chief priests for each exarchate. This does not mean, however, that every priest should be listed - this should be done in on the OMHKSEA website, or at the most (and the need is ''very'' dubious), in its own article. &mdash; edited by [[User:Pistevo|<font color="red">Pι</font>]][[Special:Listusers/sysop|s]][[User talk:Pistevo|<font color="yellow">τ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|é]][[User:Pistevo|<font color="blue">vο</font>]] at 23:19, July 15, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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Why write "VACANT"? There is no official announcement yet coming from the Office of the Ecumenical Patriarchate that the Episcopal seat is "VACANT". Let us wait for further OFFICIAL announcement before jumping into cocnclusion based on CONJECTURES.<br />
-[[User:Filipino|Filipino]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodox_Metropolitanate_of_Hong_Kong_and_Southeast_Asia&diff=51954Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia2007-05-30T03:22:49Z<p>Filipino: /* External links */ Added a link to an OCMC article about the missionary works of two Indonesian priests under OMHKSEA</p>
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The '''Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia''', headquartered in Hong Kong, is an [[eparchy]] of the [[Church of Constantinople]]. Its current [[bishop]] is His Eminence [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]], [[Metropolitan]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, which includes Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Taiwan.<br />
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name=Orthodox Metropolitanate of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia|<br />
jurisdiction=[[Church of Constantinople|Constantinople]]|<br />
type=Metropolis|<br />
founded=1996|<br />
bishop=[[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Metr. Nikitas]]|<br />
see=Hong Kong|<br />
hq=Hong Kong|<br />
territory=Hong Kong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan|<br />
language=English, Greek, other native languages|<br />
music=[[Byzantine Chant]]|<br />
calendar=[[Revised Julian Calendar|Revised Julian]]|<br />
population=''unknown''|<br />
website=[http://www.omhksea.org/ OMHKSEA]<br />
}}<br />
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== History ==<br />
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== Recent History ==<br />
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==Organization==<br />
The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia is treated as one single archdiocese with five archdiocesan districts: New South Wales and the Australian Capital Territory; Victoria and Tasmania; South Australia and the Northern Territory; Queensland and New Guinea; and Western Australia. To assist the archbishop, he has an amount of assistant bishops - currently three, but in previous times as many as five. There are 118 [[parish]]es and communities across Australia, and approximately 300,000 [[faithful]] in the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia.<br />
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The Archdiocese also includes 6 [[monasticism|monasteries]]. The largest male monastery is the Holy [[Monastery of Pantanassa (Mangrove, Australia)|Monastery of Pantanassa]] in New South Wales, and the largest female monastery is the Holy [[Monastery of Gorgoepikoos (Geelong, Australia)|Monastery of Gorgoepikoos]] in Victoria. In 1982, the archdiocese began the St Andrew's Greek Orthodox Theological College in Sydney, where Archbishop Stylianos currently serves as dean and Bishop Seraphim as sub-dean. As the lone theological college in Australasia, it often accepts students of other jurisdictions.<br />
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The Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia is also a founding member of [[SCCOCA]].<br />
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== The Episcopacy ==<br />
[[Image:Metr._Nikitas_of_Hong_Kong.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Metr. Nikitas]]<br />
*Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas (Lulias)]] of Hong Kong and Southeast Asia, 1999-2007. He is currently serving as the director of the Patriarch Athenagoras Orthodox Institute in Berkeley, California. <br />
**Archimandrite [[Daniel (Toyne)]] is the sole priest in Singapore<br />
**Archimandrite [[Jonah (Mourtos)]] is the sole priest in Taiwan.<br />
**Vicar [[Nikitas (Mellios)]] is the senior active priest in the Philippines<br />
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==Related articles==<br />
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*Archimandrite [[Lazarus (Moore)]], missionary in India 1952-1972<br />
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==External links==<br />
* [http://www.omhksea.org Official Website of the Metropolitanate]<br />
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*Exarchate of Singapore<br />
** [http://www.geocities.com/orthodoxchurchsg Holy Resurrection Orthodox Church] in Singapore.<br />
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*Exarchate of Taiwan<br />
** [http://www.orthodox.com.tw/ Holy Trinity Orthodox Church] in Taiwan.<br />
** [http://flickr.com/photos/90309235@N00/116898662/in/set-72057594089294852/ Orthodox Christian Liturgy in Taipei, Pascha 2004]<br />
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*Exarchate of the Philippines<br />
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** [http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Church]<br />
** [http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html/ Greeks in the Philippines & Their Contribution to the Country]<br />
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*Exarchate of Indonesia<br />
** [http://ocmc.org/images/pb/magazine/38_OCMC2006Springmagweb.pdf/ OCMC report on two Indonesian Priests and their mission under OMHKSEA]<br />
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*Exarchate of India'''<br />
** [http://www.psoc-cal.org/ Philanthropic Society of the Orthodox Church - Calcutta].<br />
** [http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/history_india.html History of the Church in India].<br />
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[[Category:Dioceses|Hong Kong and Southeast Asia]]<br />
[[Category:Ecumenical Patriarchate Dioceses|Hong Kong and Southeast Asia]]<br />
[[Category:Orthodoxy in China]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=51953Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-05-30T03:09:36Z<p>Filipino: /* Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today */ changed to the more accurate "approximately 200 members in Metro Manila, capital city of the Philippines"</p>
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<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
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The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
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== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
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After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
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== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
Orthodoxy arrived in the Philippines when Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not, however, speak Greek. <br />
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An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
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===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
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Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
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Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
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Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
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== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
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In 1992, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
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On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
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In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
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== Other Jurisdiction ==<br />
In December 2006, Fr. Chris Gain, a deacon from the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]], came to Manila, and, without informing the local hierarchy of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines, registered a church bearing the name "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" (Orthodox Church of the Philippines). Their webpage describes their church as ''the'' Orthodox Church in the Philippines. This church is seeking to receive Filipino clergymen through incardination. They do not provide information regarding the actual number of members. This jurisdiction, represented by one Abbot Cristofor and based in New Castle, Australia, has no clergy, churches, nor parishes anywhere in the Philippines and is not in communion with the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines, which is under the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] of Constantinople.<br />
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==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some clandestine and cultic groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
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One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
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Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
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In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in Metro Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
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At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and is spiritually administered by an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://orthodox-communities.blogspot.com/2007/04/orthodox-communities-in-philippines.html Orthodox Communities in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
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[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=51461Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-05-21T09:12:50Z<p>Filipino: /* Links */ added a link to the Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate island.</p>
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<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal. However, early in the 20th century a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain, when the Philippines became its colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
Orthodoxy arrived in the Philippines when Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now number no more than 10 families, who have kept their Greek surnames and have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not, however, speak Greek. <br />
<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], were relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
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Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino [[hieromonk]], Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan [[Dionysios (Psiahas) of Proussa|Dionysios]] of the [[Greek Orthodox Metropolis of New Zealand]] and assisted by [[Sotirios (Trambas) of Korea|Bishop Sotirios of Zelon]]. <br />
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On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by [[Chrismation|Holy Chrismation]] several Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
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In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence Metropolitan [[Nikitas (Lulias) of Hong Kong|Nikitas]] of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada run a kindergarten.<br />
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== Other Jurisdiction ==<br />
In December 2006, Fr. Chris Gain, a deacon from the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]], came to Manila, and, without informing the local hierarchy of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines, registered a church bearing the name "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" (Orthodox Church of the Philippines). Their webpage describes their church as ''the'' Orthodox Church in the Philippines. This church is seeking to receive Filipino clergymen through incardination. They do not provide information regarding the actual number of members. This jurisdiction, represented by one Abbot Cristofor and based in New Castle, Australia, has no clergy, churches, nor parishes anywhere in the Philippines and is not in communion with the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines, which is under the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] of Constantinople.<br />
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==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some clandestine and cultic groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos, who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for graduate education, law, arts, sciences, chemistry, computer education, engineering, commerce and architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in true Byzantine style, with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece, and is home to approximately 200 Orthodox in the Philippines. This cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
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At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople and is spiritually administered by an ecclesiastical vicar from Greece.<br />
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==Links==<br />
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*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Cathedral in Manila ]<br />
*[http://orthodox-communities.blogspot.com/2007/04/orthodox-communities-in-philippines.html Orthodox Communities in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/AUG03.pdf The Theotokos Orthodox Church & Monastery in Masbate]<br />
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{{Parishes of South, East, and Southeast Asia}}<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Filipino&diff=51460User:Filipino2007-05-21T09:01:02Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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<div>[[Image:Filipino_Orthodox_Christians.jpg|center|thumb|900px|Me together with my Filipino Orthodox brethren. Photo taken at the Annunciation Orthodox Cathedral, Paranaque, Manila. ]]<br />
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Hello to everyone! I am John, a chrismated member of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines (Exarchate of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the Philippines).<br />
{{user laity}}</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Gabriela&diff=51425User talk:Gabriela2007-05-19T06:39:16Z<p>Filipino: </p>
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<div>{{welcome}}<br />
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{{User:ASDamick/sig}} 15:32, May 2, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Addendum ==<br />
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To the standard welcome I wanted to add an extra thank-you for helping to clean up existing articles. It's very much needed! {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 17:47, May 5, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Gabriel ==<br />
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Excellent work on The [[Archangel Gabriel]] article! For future reference, you can use "thumb" instead of "frame" to take care of sizing an image. {{User:Magda/sig}} 12:32, May 9, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Sign of the Cross ==<br />
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It looks like you have made some great contributions to this article. I think I imported this from Wikipedia some time ago. Welcome! [[User:Joe Rodgers|Joe]] 2006-05-10<br />
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== Hagiographical articles, image licenses ==<br />
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Since I definitely want to encourage your contributions, here are a few links which I have found useful:<br />
*[[Saint commemorations]]<br />
*[[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual]] (specifically [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual (People)|People]] and [[OrthodoxWiki:Style Manual (Importing)|Importing]])<br />
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Also, when importing images from the Wikimedia Commons, please keep in mind that we still need categories and licensing information for each image. (cf. [[Help:Image licenses]])<br />
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Again (and again, in peace): good work! {{User:Magda/sig}} 12:48, May 17, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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:Ah, thank you, again. That is helpful. Honestly, the copyright stuff confuses me, but I'll try to note the image licences that wikimedia uses when I borrow images from them; also, I suppose the cut and paste from wikipedia and then slice and dice isn't an option. Whoops. I suppose I should start writing all the material in my articles by my own hand. [[User:Gabriela|Gabriela]] 15:36, 17 May, 2006 (CST)<br />
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== Hotlinking ==<br />
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Just FYI, in the images you've uploaded recently, when you include a bare URL to the image's source, the wiki creates a hotlink to the URL, including the image and thus using the linked site's bandwidth. If you want to link to the source without including the image (which is what would be preferable), then you can do it by means of creating a link, like this: [http://www.thehtm.org/images/a-73.jpg Source]. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 21:23, June 7, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== RE: You have to read what you paste over from wikipedia ==<br />
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Thanks for the note! I do read anything I "paste" before doing so. God Bless.<br />
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== [[:Image:Rublev Trinity.jpg]] ==<br />
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No harm done. In the future, if you want to revert an image to its proper state, look at the list of revisions on the image's description page (e.g., [[:Image:Rublev Trinity.jpg]]), click on the date references, find the one you want, and hit the "rev" link next to it. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 23:10, July 31, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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: It sounds to me like your browser cache needed to be refreshed. In some browsers, you have to hold down the shift key in order for this to work. I don't know what was happening in your particular case, but I'm pretty sure that there was a cache issue, if only because I know that the image was already fixed before you started in on it. :) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 06:50, August 3, 2006 (CDT)<br />
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== Sysop Invite ==<br />
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Dear Gabriela,<br />
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I'd like to invite you to become an OrthodoxWiki sysop. This doesn't require much more time or commitment than you've already demonstrated. You'd be part of our ultra-secret OrthodoxWiki Sysop email list, where we work together to battle wiki-evil and talk about various issues affecting the life of OrthodoxWiki, and once in awhile bounce around ideas about its future. Also, you'd have superpowers on the wiki, allowing you to intervene in edit wars, and otherwise better manage articles. Finally, you'd be a reference point for other users - welcoming them in the name of OrthodoxWiki, and helping folks get the hang of the OrthodoxWiki style. Let me know if you'd like to accept this mission by leaving a note on my talk page or emailing me directly. Thanks, {{User:FrJohn/sig}}<br />
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== Markup issues ==<br />
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I've worked something out on [[User:Hellenica/Workshop/Gabriela|here]] for you, hope it's good enough! [[User:Hellenica|Hellenica]] 21:12, December 2, 2006 (PST)<br />
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== Vandal alert ==<br />
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Just thought I'd alert you to [[Joshua]], a recent vandalism addition. --[[User:Cholmes75|cholmes75]] 07:44, January 2, 2007 (PST)<br />
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==Thank you==<br />
For the kind welcome. I have edited my user page a little. /hans<br />
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PS: is this how I sign?: [[User:Hans|<b>Hans</b>]]<br />
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Thank you again [[User:Hans|Hans]] 07:50, February 27, 2007 (PST)<br />
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== Ethics invasion ==<br />
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Today is the due date for the first phase of a project for the Social Ethics class. Most of the posts in the last couple of days (that are not mine or my wife's) are related to that project. The two of us (she more than me) have been going through the articles and correcting formatting, grammar, and the like. Almost every sub-topic on the Ethics page has been assigned, so there could be a good number more articles coming up. Just a heads up. We'll check again in the morning. [[User:Vandrona|Vandrona]]<br />
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:Gabriela, I'm not sure about putting these articles in the "Contributed Articles" category. Most of the other articles in that category are either copyrighted or previously published. From the ethics professor's assignment, I gather that he is trying to improve the wiki as a resource, not merely to add student-submitted articles which have not yet been reviewed. My husband says that there is a revision stage in this assignment which has not yet been reached (some time in March). On the other hand, some of the content is, well, in need of something like the [[Template:Disputed|disputed]] tag in addition to the cleanup tag ([[Template:Orthodoxize]] and [[Template:Incomplete]] also come to mind). What are your thoughts? —[[User:Magda|<b>magda</b>]] ([[User_talk:Magda|talk]]) 09:53, March 3, 2007 (PST)<br />
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:It's wonderful to see this! This section has needed work for a long time. I'd much prefer that these not be designated as "Contributed Articles" (actually, I'd like to deprecate that category) - even if there is some POV involved, better to leave these open for editing in the future. — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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==Vandalism==<br />
Gabriela, just a note about block comments - better to keep them general rather than mentioning specifics. Thanks for catching this quickly! — [[User:FrJohn|<b>FrJohn</b>]] ([http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User_talk:FrJohn&action=edit&section=new talk])<br />
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== [[Julian calendar]] among Anglophones ==<br />
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This is in response to a [[User_talk:Ddpbf#English names|comment]] you made on [[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]]'s talk page: There are actually quite a lot of "mainstream" jurisdictions in the US, the UK, and Australia who all use the Julian calendar: the Ukrainians, the Serbians, the ROCOR (depending on how you see them), the MP, Jerusalem, some of the parishes of the ACROD, and some of the parishes of the OCA (most notably, all of Alaska). (There may be more which escape my mind at the moment.) &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font size="3.5" color="green" face="Adobe Garamond Pro, Garamond, Georgia, Times New Roman">Fr. Andrew</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <small>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</small> 04:54, March 12, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Version Names ==<br />
Even in the english literature serbian bishops are known by serbian versions of their names. (St. Sava of Serbia, not St. Sabbas of Serbia. Patriarch Pavle , not Paul, St. Varnava not St. Barnabas, St. Nikolai of Ohrid not St. Nicholas.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 00:50, March 20, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Versions ==<br />
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I was not offended. I was just litle confused. And I was affraid that people who read this articles will be even more confused. About your sugestion I am afraid that a wom;t have enough time. But I am ready to help. Again I was just confused. My basic intension was to entroduce history of my Local Church to Orthodox people in America. .--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 19:30, March 20, 2007 (CET)<br />
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:I will from now on using more english versions. Especially for persons who are not known wery well.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 11:45, March 20, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== About your suggestion ==<br />
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Could you tell me how to start Orthodoxwiki in Serbian--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 04:24, March 25, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Thank you. I hope that I will have blessed Anunciation [[April 7]]. I also wish thank you for corections in my articles. I am translating them from Serbian and my english is not very good. God bless you.--[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 06:14, March 26, 2007 (PDT)<br />
:Thank you for good wishes. I hope that you had blessed Anuntiaton. --[[User:Ddpbf|Ddpbf]] 09:30, March 26, 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==Deep Appreciation for your effort==<br />
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Dear sister Gabriela,<br />
I would like to express my deep appreciation for proofreading and correcting the grammatical errors in the recent revisions I made in the Orthodoxy in the Philippines Wiki. I'm not an expert in English and so you have indeed done a great help to us, your Orthodox brethren in the Philippines. Certain individual/s would like to put the established canonical jurisdiction in the Philippines into bad light and are trying their best to distort historical facts by citing totally unsupported claims and baseless allegations. Let us pray that God have mercy on them and forgive them. Again, thank you so much for your effort. May God bless us all. In Christ, [[User:Filipino|Filipino]] 23:39, May 18, 2007 (PDT)</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=51423Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-05-19T03:41:34Z<p>Filipino: /* St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso */ "no Filipino was baptized, chrismated nor ordained during his stay in the Philippines" -this is an undeniable historical fact.</p>
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<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal though a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines, earlier in the twentieth century. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist totally after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain when the Philippines became a colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
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After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
Orthodoxy arrived in the Philippines when Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now numbers no more than 10 families who kept their Greek surnames and have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not however speak Greek. <br />
<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], was relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was baptized, chrismated, ordained and consecrated during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino priest-monk, Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan Dionysius of the Orthodox Archdiocese of New Zealand and assisted by Bishop Sotirios of Zelon (now Metropolitan Sotirios of Korea). <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by Holy Chrismation several Orthodox professing Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence, Metropolitan Nikitas of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada runs a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Other Jurisdiction ==<br />
In December 2006, Fr. Chris Gain, a deacon from the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]], came to Manila and without informing the local church hierarchy of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines registered a church bearing the name "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" (Orthodox Church of the Philippines). Their webpage describe their church as the Orthodox Church in the Philippines. This church is seeking to receive Filipino clergymen through incardination.They do not provide information regarding the actual number of members. This jurisdiction, represented by one Abbot Cristofor based in New Castle, Australia, has no clergy, churches nor parishes anywhere in the Philippines and is not in communion with the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines which is under the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] of Constantinople.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some clandestine and cultic groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for Graduate Education, Law, Arts, Sciences, Chemistry, Computer Education, Engineering, Commerce and Architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
<br />
During World War II Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc.. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in the true byzantium style with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece and is home to approximately 200 orthodox in the Philippines. This Cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship Services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople which is spiritually administered by an Ecclesiastical Vicar from Greece.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
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*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Cathedral]<br />
*[http://orthodox-communities.blogspot.com/2007/04/orthodox-communities-in-philippines.html Orthodox Communities in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=51422Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-05-19T03:32:38Z<p>Filipino: /* Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today */</p>
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<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal though a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines, earlier in the twentieth century. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist totally after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain when the Philippines became a colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
Orthodoxy arrived in the Philippines when Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now numbers no more than 10 families who kept their Greek surnames and have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not however speak Greek. <br />
<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], was relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Unfortunately, Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was converted into to the Orthodox Christian Church during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino priest-monk, Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan Dionysius of the Orthodox Archdiocese of New Zealand and assisted by Bishop Sotirios of Zelon (now Metropolitan Sotirios of Korea). <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by Holy Chrismation several Orthodox professing Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence, Metropolitan Nikitas of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada runs a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Other Jurisdiction ==<br />
In December 2006, Fr. Chris Gain, a deacon from the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]], came to Manila and without informing the local church hierarchy of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines registered a church bearing the name "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" (Orthodox Church of the Philippines). Their webpage describe their church as the Orthodox Church in the Philippines. This church is seeking to receive Filipino clergymen through incardination.They do not provide information regarding the actual number of members. This jurisdiction, represented by one Abbot Cristofor based in New Castle, Australia, has no clergy, churches nor parishes anywhere in the Philippines and is not in communion with the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines which is under the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] of Constantinople.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some clandestine and cultic groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for Graduate Education, Law, Arts, Sciences, Chemistry, Computer Education, Engineering, Commerce and Architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
<br />
During World War II Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc.. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in the true byzantium style with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece and is home to approximately 200 orthodox in the Philippines. This Cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship Services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople which is spiritually administered by an Ecclesiastical Vicar from Greece.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Cathedral]<br />
*[http://orthodox-communities.blogspot.com/2007/04/orthodox-communities-in-philippines.html Orthodox Communities in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipinohttps://en.orthodoxwiki.org/index.php?title=Orthodoxy_in_the_Philippines&diff=51421Orthodoxy in the Philippines2007-05-19T03:23:55Z<p>Filipino: Added documented data about the reception of the first Filipino Orthodox converts</p>
<hr />
<div>This article seeks to be a clearinghouse of information and links regarding the history and state of '''[[Orthodox Christianity]] in the Philippines'''.<br />
<br />
The current Orthodox presence in the Philippines is minimal though a small Russian parish, exclusively for Russian nationals, once existed in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines, earlier in the twentieth century. The presence of this Russian parish ceased to exist totally after the Second World War. Another Orthodox parish under the [[jurisdiction]] of the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] was founded in Manila during the early 1990s.<br />
<br />
== The beginnings of Christianity in the Philippines ==<br />
[[Image:Magellan's_Cross.jpg|left|thumb|Replica of Magellan's cross planted in Cebu in 1521]]Christianity was first introduced to the Philippines in the 16th century by Spain when the Philippines became a colony. Until the Philippine Revolution of 1896, it was illegal for any non-[[Roman Catholic]] church to establish itself in the Philippines. The Archbishop of Manila served as both representative of the Spanish Inquisition and, during the absence of the governor-general, the Spanish Crown. <br />
<br />
<br />
After fighting a bloody revolution against Spain, the Philippines then fought another war for its independence against the United States. However, the Philippines was annexed by the United States in 1898 and remained a colony until 1946. Religious tolerance was then instituted. The new American governor-generals then encouraged the spread of the [[Anglican Communion|Episcopal Church]] through government donations of land.<br />
<br />
== Orthodoxy in the Philippines ==<br />
Orthodoxy arrived in the Philippines when Greek sailors settled in Legaspi city on the island of Luzon about a century ago. Descendants of these Greek Orthodox Christian sailors now numbers no more than 10 families who kept their Greek surnames and have become distinguished public figures and intellectuals in the Philippines. They do not however speak Greek. <br />
<br />
An influx of Russian emigrees fleeing the Soviet regime occured during the American colonial regime. In 1935, a Russian [[parish]] was established in Manila, and the [[Patriarch]] of Moscow and All Russia appointed Father Mikhail Yerokhin as vicar. The Episcopal Church then permitted Fr. Mikhail to use the north transept of their cathedral for worship. In 1937, the first Orthodox church was built and was named after the Iberian [[Icon]] of the Mother of God. This also became the first Orthodox [[altar]] in the Philippines. Later, both the Episcopal Cathedral and the Russian Orthodox church in Manila were destroyed during the Second World War. [[Image:John Maximovitch Tubabao.jpg|left|thumb|Abp. John Maximovitch in Tubabao]]<br />
<br />
===St. John of Shanghai and San Franciso===<br />
In 1949, 5,500 Russian Orthodox from China, including then-[[Archbishop]] [[John Maximovitch]], was relocated to Tubabao in the south central Philippines by the International Refugee Organization and with the permission of the newly independent Republic of the Philippines. Abp. John Maximovitch then established a wooden church, orphanage, and other buildings in Tubabao exclusively for the Russian refugees. <br />
<br />
Tubabao, however, was (and still is) an underdeveloped island which is humid, prone to typhoons, and at times inaccessible due to the ocean conditions. When a Russian commented on their fear that a typhoon would destroy their camp to local Filipinos, they replied that there was nothing to worry about because “your holy man blesses your camp from four directions every night.” There were no typhoons or floods while Abp. John was there. <br />
<br />
Unfortunately, Arbp. John Maximovitch did not preach the Orthodox faith to the native inhabitants of the Philippine islands. No Filipino was converted into to the Orthodox Christian Church during his stay in the Philippines.<br />
<br />
Through the persistent lobbying of Abp. John to the U.S. Congress, the refugees were allowed to settle in the United States and Australia beginning in 1951.<br />
<br />
== Reception of the first Filipino converts to Orthodoxy ==<br />
<br />
In 1992, a Filipino priest-monk, Fr. Vincentius Escarcha (a former Benedictine Abbot and a Roman Catholic priest for more than 20 years in Bajada, Cataingan, Masbate island), together with four nuns and faithful members of his community, were received into the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan Dionysius of the Orthodox Archdiocese of New Zealand and assisted by Bishop Sotirios of Zelon (now Metropolitan Sotirios of Korea). <br />
<br />
On January 19, 1994, Metropolitan Dionysius, assisted by Bishop Sotirios, received by Holy Chrismation several Orthodox professing Filipino Christians in Manila.<br />
<br />
In 2004, the Theotokos Orthodox Church in Bajada, Masbate was consecrated by His Eminence, Metropolitan Nikitas of Hong Kong and South East Asia. At present, the nuns of the Theotokos Orthodox Monastery in Bajada runs a kindergarten.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Other Jurisdiction ==<br />
In December 2006, Fr. Chris Gain, a deacon from the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]], came to Manila and without informing the local church hierarchy of the Orthodox Church in the Philippines registered a church bearing the name "Iglesia Orthodoxa ng Pilipinas" (Orthodox Church of the Philippines). Their webpage describe their church as the Orthodox Church in the Philippines. This church is seeking to receive Filipino clergymen through incardination.They do not provide information regarding the actual number of members. This jurisdiction, represented by one Abbot Cristofor based in New Castle, Australia, has no clergy, churches nor parishes anywhere in the Philippines and is not in communion with the canonical Orthodox Church in the Philippines which is under the [[Ecumenical Patriarchate]] of Constantinople.<br />
<br />
==Orthodoxy in the Philippines Today==<br />
[[Image:Manila_orthodox_cathedral.jpg|left|thumb|The Annunciation Orthodox Cathderal in Paranaque, Manila]]<br />
There are some clandestine and cultic groups today in the Philippines that claim to be Eastern Orthodox with valid orders and sacraments; however, they all lack [[apostolic succession]] and do not adhere to the traditions and [[canon law|canons]] of the canonical Orthodox Church. <br />
<br />
One of the first Greek Orthodox to arrive in the Philippines was Alexandros Athos Adamopoulos who came to Legaspi city in 1928. Together with his brother and cousin he co-founded Adamson University in 1932. The university was and is noted for its curriculum directed towards the needs of the Philippines in the areas of science, chemical and industrial engineering. Today Adamson University has attained recognition as on of the leading institutions for Graduate Education, Law, Arts, Sciences, Chemistry, Computer Education, Engineering, Commerce and Architechture. The university has a student population of over 22,000. <br />
<br />
<br />
During World War II Alexandros Adamopoulos (Alexander A. Adamson) was appointed in 1942 by the Greek government to take charge of Greek interests in the Philippines. He was later promoted to the rank of Consul General of Greece. <br />
<br />
In 1989 Alexander Adamson saw the need to establish the first true Greek Orthodox church in the Philippines and thus established the Hellenic Orthodox Foundation Inc.. Although he died in 1993 before the church was completed, the Orthodox Cathedral was finished in 1996 and is constructed in the true byzantium style with all the interior furnishings imported from Greece and is home to approximately 200 orthodox in the Philippines. This Cathedral was consecrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch on March 5, 2000. <br />
<br />
At present there are three canonically ordained Filipino Orthodox priests in the Philippines. The Divine Liturgy and other Orthodox worship Services are said in English and in the Filipino vernacular. The only true Orthodox parish in Manila is under the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople which is spiritually administered by an Ecclesiastical Vicar from Greece.<br />
<br />
==Links==<br />
<br />
*[http://www.exarchate.uni.cc/ The Annunciation of the Theotokos Orthodox Cathedral]<br />
*[http://orthodox-communities.blogspot.com/2007/04/orthodox-communities-in-philippines.html Orthodox Communities in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www.rocor.org.au/lives/stjohnsanfranciscoshanghai Life of St. John Maximovitch]<br />
*[http://www.hri.org/forum/life/adamson.html Greeks in the Philippines and their contributions to the Filipinos]<br />
*[http://www.cs.ust.hk/faculty/dimitris/metro/Phil_history.html A priest's description of missionary work in the Philippines]<br />
*[http://www2.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/Articles/en-US/03042007_KL1949.htm The Greek Community in the Philippines]<br />
[[Category:Jurisdictions]]</div>Filipino