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Protected because of edit warring and need (as sysop) to ensure that encyclopaedia doesn't become about an agenda; reverted because of falsities; dispute or contribute on article talk page. — by Pιsτévο talk complaints at 13:37, March 6, 2008 (PST)

As a sysop, it's my prerogative to make reversions without prior notification, if I feel they're warranted. In this case, my warrant was as noted on the article's Talk page, that your edits are very much reflective of how they've been in the past, representing a contentious Agenda, something that has no place on OrthodoxWiki. You have the option of either ceasing to operate in that manner or facing a ban. The choice is yours. You may regard this as your last chance. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 18:11, April 30, 2008 (UTC)

I'll take your response on my Talk page to mean, "No, I don't want to calm down and edit like a normal contributor." This account has been banned for apparently unrepentant contentiousness on the part of its editor. (I suspected as much upon examining w:Talk:John Zizioulas.) —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 18:31, April 30, 2008 (UTC)

As noted by FrJohn, this user account is being given a second chance at uncontentious contribution to the wiki. I do hope you'll take advantage of it and change tactics. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 18:20, May 1, 2008 (UTC)
That is not true. FrJohn reverted your misuse of the sysop powers you were given, and restored my original chance. But, it appears that you did not learn anything from it. Cebactokpatop 19:22, May 1, 2008 (UTC)
You may of course construe it as you wish. It's fine with me if you wish to be rude to me (such as when you questioned my ordination), but I caution you against that approach with others, as you've frequently taken in the past. Whether or not I have "misused" my sysop privileges on OrthodoxWiki is up to FrJohn to determine—he is of course free to revoke them at any time. Perhaps you may wish to ask him to do so. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 01:43, May 2, 2008 (UTC)
Your reasoning/actions/behavior do not go hand in hand with ordination, and administrator role either. Even now, instead of calming down the situation, you are constantly heating it up. For that reason, I questioned your ordination. Asking Fr. John to revoke your administrator role is yet to come. As you portrayed yourself here, you are not fit for either of those two roles. It si simply not for the personalities like yours. Another proof are your accusations about my alleged "rudeness". On what grounds did you block my account? Merely on your private frustrations. And after that you find yourself entitled to talk about someone else’s rudeness? Cebactokpatop 12:36, May 2, 2008 (UTC)
Since you asked (although it was previously mentioned in both the warning and in the action), your account was blocked for abusive behavior. Trust me when I say that you don't frustrate me—the sort of behavior you've displayed (and continue to display) are unfortunately often par for the course online. If anything, it gets a bit monotonous. I encourage you to behave otherwise. Perhaps you might find it more useful to work on some other articles rather than one which clearly raises your ire. —Fr. Andrew talk contribs (THINK!) 13:39, May 2, 2008 (UTC)
What "abusive behavior"? Editing an article is classified as such? Besides, your judgment on what is "abusive" seems questionable, if not erroneous, and quite possibly is impaired by your personality, lacking objectivity in doing the sysop job apart from inclinations towards private preferences and opinions. I encourage you to quit the sysop job as your conduct so far reveals you not being suitable for such a responsibility. Cebactokpatop 17:12, May 2, 2008 (UTC)

Hey, perhaps you can set the example by not continuing the conversation? Check out my User page and follow some of the icons and look up some other articles ... it will be fun for you and it will spread peace. Vasiliki 12:45, May 2, 2008 (UTC)

Christian Principles

Hi, I wanted to put my two bobs in - only because as a "User" of Orthodox Wiki I am starting to get a little annoyed by the amount of attention "John Zizioulas" gets as compared to other MORE important Christian articles! I dont know who this Metropolitan is and nor do I care because he has only one judge - that is God. My point is, WE as Christians need to learn (as the Apostle Paul says in Acts) - you can say something once, twice but if you notice on the third that they are not listening to you then you shake your sandals and walk away ..this is the true behaviour of a Christian. A Christian should not display stubborness [stubborness is lack of Humility, what is more important? To be right or to be humble?] - even if they are correct. Food for thought, I would be interested to hear your comments on my talk page :-) Vasiliki 00:22, May 1, 2008 (UTC)

I should add, I too am pretty stubborn, you can track my stubborness through various talk discussions but I give my opinion once, twice and the third but then I stop ... because obviously right or wrong ..that is not what the general consensus is. Remember, when you dont pay for a service you really do not have the right to dominate it. If anything you are a guest and as a guest I must display a certain level of graciousness to my host! Vasiliki 00:25, May 1, 2008 (UTC)

In response to Thank you

I hear your concerns, I am trying to understand them even. You have every right to voice your feelings the only thing I want to point out, and I guess everyone else is trying to tell you the same thing, is that what you are epxressing (grammatically, ethically, theologically, whatever) is not the fundamental basics of an "Encyclopedic" article which orthodoxwiki and Wikipedia are about. Your information is for Blog or Chat spots, or perhaps, unique articles to be posted on Site specific web sites. In Christ. Vasiliki 23:09, May 1, 2008 (UTC)

Since when valid academic criticisms are for "Blog or Chat spots" only? if there are problems with the gramatics, you and other contributors are welcome to rectify them. However, you are not welcome to remove them. Cebactokpatop 12:40, May 2, 2008 (UTC)
Dear (insert your name) ... be careful that you are not becoming "fanatical" or even "obsessed" by this topic ... its a sin! Vasiliki 12:51, May 2, 2008 (UTC)