That is ridiculous. By your definition a Lutheran liturgy is pre-schism.--[[User:JosephSuaiden|JosephSuaiden]] 06:30, February 16, 2009 (UTC)
:Joseph, the entire paragraph you are editing is dedicated to saying it is not a dogmatic principle that WR liturgy must predate the Schism (whatever dating we use for ''that''). Please review this topic sentence: "
n contrast to this claim, others note that it is not a dogmatic principle of the Church that liturgical traditions can neither be revived nor created. After all, there are whole services even within the Byzantine Rite which are not universally practiced (e.g., the [[molieben]]), so they must have been invented somewhere along the way rather than being part of the [[typikon]] when it first came into the form we now know it." Thus, your addition is a strange, off-topic statement. And yes, ''some parts'' of the Liturgy of St. Tikhon are pre-Schism; that is, "the rites being used by Western Rite Orthodox Christians are not new, but mainly predate the [[Great Schism]]." If you dislike the Liturgy of St. Tikhon, that's fine; it's not fine to introduce off-topic, out-of-place comments on the matter. --[[User:Willibrord|Willibrord]] 06:36, February 16, 2009 (UTC)