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Talk:Joseph (Spilaiotis) moved to Talk:Joseph the Hesychast: 'spilaiotis' is a title (cave-dweller), not a surname.
I think "Spilaiotis" is not his last name, but means "Cave-dweller" as he is also known as. This means
that his parents do not have this as a last name. If this is the case, we need to remove "Spilaiotis" from his parents' name.<small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Dlavdas|Dlavdas]] ([[User talk:Dlavdas|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dlavdas|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small> :If Spilaiotis means Cave-dweller, then it should definitely be removed - from his parents' names, the intro and the title.:The references for Spilaiotis are [http://orthodoxphotos.com/Athonite_Hermits/index.shtml here (ctrl-f 'Joseph'), which uses Spilaiotis and Spelaiotis] and [http://www.google.com.au/search?q=spilaiotis+OR+spelaiotis&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official here, where there is one use as a surname (Elias Spilaiotis) and one as a title (O Geron Arsenios o Spilaiotis)].<small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Pistevo|Pistevo]] ([[User talk:Pistevo|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pistevo|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small> I have seen icons and books of Elder Joseph referred to as "the Hesychast" as well as "the Cavedweller" (or Spilaiotis in Greek) so the title and intro can show that. I don't know the style for how to show that it is not his last name. I can remove his parents' last name.<small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Dlavdas|Dlavdas]] ([[User talk:Dlavdas|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dlavdas|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small> : ''Joseph the Hesychast'' is, I think, the most common English reference for him, and I think the article should be moved to that. &mdash;[[User:ASDamick|<font color="blue"><b><i>Dcn. Andrew</i></b></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ASDamick|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Randompage|<font color="blue">random</font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ASDamick|<font color="black">contribs</font>]]</sup> 21:21, August 11, 2006 (CDT) Sure, I agree -[[User:Dlavdas|''Dlavdas'']] ([[User talk:Dlavdas|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dlavdas|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.
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